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#Post#: 126--------------------------------------------------
What to do about BOP?
By: BigShawn Date: September 16, 2010, 8:11 pm
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I would like to know what everyone is doing with the BOP problem
in their area? Last year I locked my birds down in mid October
and this year I had to lock down in late August. I let them out
in late August and my wife came running in the house to tell me
a Cooper had one of my young birds. So I ran out and chased him
down the street. I got my bird back And he is doing better now.
What I'm asking is do you just keep fling and loose what they
take or have birds that just fly off. I don't believe in killing
them or harminh them. Have tried to fly at different times and
nothing is working. One other thing do you guys still fly your
bird during a heavy molt/ Thanks for your input. Shawn
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Re: What to do about BOP?
By: Tony Chavarria Date: September 16, 2010, 9:01 pm
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Hey BigShawn, do you have open aviaries or large screened
openings? If you do, this will attract the BOP. Describe your
setup a little: trees? city? open flight pens, etc?
Also, the MBTA forbids trapping or harming BOP in any manner.
Huge fines and possible jail time.
#Post#: 134--------------------------------------------------
Re: What to do about BOP?
By: POLARBEAR Date: September 16, 2010, 9:41 pm
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BigShawn, I feel for you and your predator problem. After
several years i was able to finally able to get some birds from
Norm Reed and some birds that Danny Horner bred.
This year has been hell to say the least. I have raised 90 plus
and am down to 30-32 birds, trying several methods i dont see a
end in site. >:(
No since in feeding the damn falcons. Time to focus on my show
birds and some parlors.
#Post#: 141--------------------------------------------------
Re: What to do about BOP?
By: BigShawn Date: September 17, 2010, 12:29 am
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I have an open aviary, I know what your getting at. I'll try
covering it. I live by Camp Pendalton in San Diego (Oceanside)
California. At most I've seen 1-2 hawks ata time. But on the
last day I let them out to fly and that one got caught there
were 7 hawks circling the house. I would never trap or try to
harm them. I just dont like raising all these birds and send
them out to become a meal. I had a few yellows this year and I'm
down to two. Yesterday I was with my wife getting gas and saw a
flock of wild pigeons and mixed in was 4 of my ( what I think
was mine there isnt anyone else close to me that has pigeons)
yellows flying with them. Theres one big tree a yard away but
all the hawks stay a few blocks away in the canyons by my house.
I do have the crows that fly over my house everynight before
dark but never at the same time so that doesnt work all the
time. I was just wondering what everyone else was going threw.
Shawn
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Re: What to do about BOP?
By: Fhtfire Date: September 17, 2010, 12:41 am
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Make sure you can close up your loft and if you do keep the
aviary open...do it from time to time...but until the hawks are
going keep it out of site. That is how hawks operate....out of
sight out of mind.....if they catch a bird and they know where
it comes from the will keep coming back if they can see
birds....they will wait until they get to hungry and hunt..but
they will return every day as long as they see the meal.
My loft used to be pretty open...once I built big door to cover
the kit boxes...I have been aok. Man...but before that....it was
like pearl harbor at times...I mean attacking.....and they would
perch on the fence next to the loft and just stare into the
loft......just stare and stare......as soon as I closed it
up...bam...no more problem.
I do get chased from time to time...but as far as the hawk is
concerned he just came across some pigeons...not knowing where
they came from. He will come back the next day just to see if
it was not just luck....but you are all buttoned up...he cruises
around and sees nothing....well then it moves on.....if it sees
your birds in a aviary ...they will come down and investigate no
matter what.
Well....that has worked for me and I know others that have done
it with success too...just close it up...tarp it..whatever.
rock and ROLL
Paul
Good Luck
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Re: What to do about BOP?
By: Tony Chavarria Date: September 17, 2010, 6:40 am
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Hey Paul, you nailed it!
Doesn't work for everyone all the time, but it is the best
method I know that actually works for reducing or eliminating
losses. Allot of guys have contacted me and have said covering
the birds has been very effective. Talk to you later bud.
#Post#: 154--------------------------------------------------
Re: What to do about BOP?
By: SpinDoctor Date: September 17, 2010, 8:28 am
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Hi guys,
I have a real bad problem with the Henries here where I live. I
thought I would be safe, I live right in the middle of downtown
Olympia, WA. I sarted flying my
youngbirds 3 months ago and have been getting hit ever since.
Lost two more to the Falcons just yesterday. I was talking to a
friend about my problem and he emailed an article to me from our
local newspaper. It seems that the Washington game and fish
dept. has set up a nest box for a breeding pair of Falcons here,
and the worst part is, that nest box is only 6 blocks from where
I live :'( , I have tried everything, flying them late, early,
at noon, at three pm. It
does not seem to matter, as soon as the birds start circling
here come the Henries. I flew them yesterday in the pouring rain
and still lost two. If I dont move then I will never be able to
compete. >:(
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Re: What to do about BOP?
By: Tony Chavarria Date: September 17, 2010, 8:34 am
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Hey SpinDoctor, I guess if you are in the middle of a war there
are going to be casualties. IS moving really an option for you?
Seems the family could take issue with moving just to compete?
:-\ Best of luck.
#Post#: 160--------------------------------------------------
Re: What to do about BOP?
By: Joe Asaro Date: September 17, 2010, 9:19 am
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SpinDoc.... .Go to legal help and see if there's any options
for you with the young bird that you loose.write down the band
numbers and make copies of their and their parents pedigrees and
see if you can send them a bill for your losses. That is one
thing that fish and game should not have the right to do in
placing pairs on building.Ta lk to the newspapers file a
complaint with the police,city,mayor and your congress man.Get
your pigeon friends to do the same thing.A pair of falcon's have
a ten mile radius,so they will feel them also.Good luck Joe
#Post#: 162--------------------------------------------------
Re: What to do about BOP?
By: SpinDoctor Date: September 17, 2010, 9:23 am
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Hi Tony,
Yes my Roller brother, moving IS an option for me, and it is in
the works right now. I am a single, Retired guy, guess I'm lucky
in that respect. Just looking for the right place to fly and
compete with my birds, a (no fire zone) if you will.
My tour of duty should be over here shortly. Keep your fingers
crossed for me that I find a good place for my birds.
James.
P.S.
Hi Joe, I will give that a shot, the worst thing they can do is
make me move my birds, which is what I am in the process of
doing anyway.
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