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Pigeons Are Smart
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: June 9, 2013, 9:28 am
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According to a study mentioned in this short video report
pigeons appear to be much smarter than we might be inclined to
believe. If this is true then it stands to reason that a good
management routine (consistency) focused on direct cause and
effect might get our birds to respond more favorably to our
training efforts.
From the link:
"Pigeons are more intelligent than previously thought, according
to researchers in the United States. Using touch screens to test
the birds' problem-solving skills, University of Iowa scientists
have demonstrated that pigeons can make considered choices while
negotiating complex challenges presented by the widely-used
''string task'' intelligence test. "
My question/s to you is how might you modify your management
routine to get more desirable results from your efforts with
your birds? Or how might this play into the birds ability to
perform and its desire and control of the roll? I have my ideas
but I want to hear from you. :D
Click For Video Link
HTML http://www.reuters.com/video/2099/01/01/reuters-tv-video?videoId=243089526
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Re: Pigeons Are Smart
DIR By: raul carreiro
Date: June 9, 2013, 5:43 pm
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Tony good post,
In my opinion birds and other animals are creatures of learned
habit, nothing more nothing less! Pigeons readily learn to
respond to the presence of simple stimulus, and can also
withhold responding to the same stimulus, IE from different
person/persons not familiar to them! ]I also believe that
Birmingham rollers roll due to instinctual reflex!
Taken from (Wikipedia} (An instinct should be distinguished from
a reflex, which is a simple response of an organism to a
specific stimulus, such as the contraction of the pupil in
response to bright light or the spasmodic movement of the lower
leg when the knee is tapped. Instincts, in contrast, are inborn
complex patterns of behavior that must exist in every member of
the species and that cannot be overcome by force of will.
However, the absence of volitional capacity must not be confused
with an inability to modify fixed action patterns. For example,
people may be able to modify a stimulated fixed action pattern
by consciously recognizing the point of its activation and
simply stop doing it, whereas animals without a sufficiently
strong volitional capacity may not be able to disengage from
their fixed action patterns, once activated.)
Does any of this sound familiar to our rollers?
Well Tony Im no pro, but to answer your question,how might you
modify your management routine to get more desirable results
from your efforts with your birds? Or how might this play into
the birds ability to perform and its desire and control of the
roll? the more consistent the management routine one uses to
breed, rear, feed and fly his /her birds, the more consistent
the results! There is no one one size fits all however! Any
good mechanic will tell you that to calibrate a carburetors fuel
to air ratio is to use small incremental adjustments! Its all
about the right balance. Personally I think there is way too
much hype put on the "air waves" on how to breed and fly
Rollers, There are many breeders/fliers that make Don King look
like a rookie !
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Re: Pigeons Are Smart
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: June 10, 2013, 9:28 am
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Good post Tony... I must agree 100% with both you and Raul. I
know for a fact that my birds are very intelligent. Example: I
train my birds to respond to a "clicker" and my "voice" command
for trapping by saying "Come on lets eat" and I click the
clicker twice. By practicing this method hundreds of times
during training I get the birds to respond to this technique.
After several weeks of doing this (I start while the young are
still in the egg form) they learn by "habit". I have tried not
using the clicker but, using my voice command and I get "NO"
response. Or by using just the clicker alone..... still "NO"
response. Then, I go back to using both the clicker and my
voice command and get "immediate" response again..... Animals
and Humans are creature of "habit". That's how both learn...
Furthermore, as a Dog trainer for more then 40 yrs I have put to
test this theory of Learned Habit by reputation...
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