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#Post#: 12446--------------------------------------------------
Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: slvrollers
Date: May 16, 2013, 3:39 pm
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I was reading in the NBRC magazine about flying the roll right
out of your birds. To much training can do this. I have never
experienced this. Its taken me four years to get some good kits
in the air and definitely do not want to go backwards in any
kind of way. I was wondering if this has happened to any of
you? Is this true you can fly the roll right out of your birds
by over training? If so how did you modify your training to
prevent this from happening again? Is this an old bird thing?
#Post#: 12449--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: lew3015
Date: May 16, 2013, 9:15 pm
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I also have a kit that likes to fly up high, too high, have
locked them down for a couple weeks and fed them up, they still
want to fly high, still roll good, just fly too high, how do you
cure this problem.
#Post#: 12451--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: nephilim
Date: May 17, 2013, 8:20 pm
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Hey lew.
Try cutting the feed down and swapping their feed for
just barley. They wont eat it by choice, but after couple days
they'll take it. They should come down and fly at a better
height, but it'll take a couple of weeks or more. The over
flying will kill the rolling is questionable, Young rollers need
flying to devlope the rolling ability, if you don't fly them how
do they develope? My young get flown twice a day for 5 days,
once for one day and a day of rest. I fly them between 8-10am
and between 5-7pm. I'll fly them in all weathers except the
strongest of winds. the strongest wind they've flown in has been
25mph. It 2as a good up draught wind so it held them in the air,
and gave them confidence to roll and was awesome to watch.
#Post#: 12452--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: lew3015
Date: May 17, 2013, 10:35 pm
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Hey Nephilim i have already done the barley route, done a mee
trick, all it did was made the birds lighter so they flew higher
and longer, over 3 hours. Barley might have it's place at times,
maybe for mee, I get better results by feeding shelled dent
corn.
I have fed all kinds of differant grains, locked down for a
mouth, even tried pellets, The only way they stay down is flying
in a stiff wind.
#Post#: 12453--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: raul carreiro
Date: May 18, 2013, 6:04 am
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Lew flying birds in low atmospheric pressure causes birds to fly
high! Im having the same scenario of birds flying high. What
causes this has nothing to do with what feed your giving them!
At this time of year A low pressure system, or "low," is an area
where the atmospheric pressure is lower than that of the area
surrounding it. Lows are usually associated with warm air, and
atmospheric lifting. Because the air above the low pressure
system is lighter birds tend to want to fly above the heavier
dense air. This happens with my birds every time this time of
year! You could be experancing the same! They will fly back to
normal height once the barometer returns to normal! Get a
barometer and fly your birds in Low pressure and high pressure
days, it will surprise you at the difference in height the birds
will fly! JMHO
#Post#: 12454--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: lew3015
Date: May 18, 2013, 7:19 am
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Thanks raul, I will Have to try this, The air pressure could be
the problem.
#Post#: 12468--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: May 21, 2013, 8:43 pm
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nephilim... flying your birds once a day for about 45 minutes to
an hour will develop your birds. The more you continue to fly
your birds without a break, the stronger they get. Thus causing
them to fly stronger and faster, causing them to roll less and
less each time they are up...
I can say this because that's exactely what I did to my birds at
one time. Just my opinion
#Post#: 12469--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: May 21, 2013, 8:58 pm
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This makes me chuckle. :D So strong birds don't want to
roll...does that mean weak ones do? Is it possible that this is
related to certain families only or is this all rollers? Sounds
like someone is projecting their experience to everyone else? I
always noticed mine seem to work as hard at the end of an hour
as they seem to at the beginning and perhaps more so. Damn lying
eyes. 8)
#Post#: 12475--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: nephilim
Date: May 23, 2013, 2:15 pm
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I've been experimenting over last couple year. My current kit of
20 are flown twice a day for 4 days once a day for 2 days and
rested for a day. This is done in no perticular order. I fly
them in all but the worst rainy or windy days, and like Tony
said they work just as hard in the 1st 5 mins as they do in the
last 5 mins. Last year i flew 12 birds once a day and they would
fly for over a hour with average performance, compared to this
years young. I also kept 6 birds in till they was 6 months old
and then flew them. These birds do'nt perform as good as the
rest! Yet they are all bred from the same stock. Which to me
means that the birds require regular excersie to perfect and
devlope the roll. if it's within in the bird, with the right
management you can tease the last ounce of roll from them. I'm
lucky I can spend all day watching my birds, as observation is a
lot to the key of getting the best out of your birds.
#Post#: 12476--------------------------------------------------
Re: Flying the roll right out of your birds.
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: May 23, 2013, 2:28 pm
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>
> ...I also kept 6 birds in till they was 6 months old and then
flew them. These birds do'nt perform as good as the rest! Yet
they are all bred from the same stock. Which to me means that
the birds require regular excersie to perfect and devlope the
roll. if it's within in the bird, with the right management you
can tease the last ounce of roll from them...
>
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THIS!
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