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       #Post#: 12365--------------------------------------------------
       Tom Hatcher books
       By: ebrockman Date: April 12, 2013, 10:39 am
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       Can anyone remark about the two Hatcher books "Keys To Flying
       Competition Rollers" or "Last Of The Greats And Beyond" ?
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       Re: Tom Hatcher books
       By: birdman Date: April 12, 2013, 6:07 pm
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       I'll give you my .02 for what it's worth.
       Anyone with a copy machine could have done the same thing and
       called them books.
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       Re: Tom Hatcher books
       By: Chuck K Date: April 12, 2013, 7:46 pm
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       I own a copy of "The Last of the Greats and the Next
       Generation".  I might have read it a couple of times over the
       years.  By contrast I also own " The Birmingham Roller Pigeon"
       by Bill Pensom, and "True Spinning Rollers" by David Kowalski,
       and these two books see some use every three months.
       It has been a long time since I even picked up the Hatcher book
       until I got it out seeing your post.  I think maybe the reason I
       never gave the book much attention was due to the fact that a
       couple of months after I got the book I saw some birds at an
       auction that were supposed to be 'Continentals'.  They weren't
       the small to medium birds described in the book.  The guy that
       had them was trying to get people to take them with the caveat
       that they were great birds for the west Texas wind.  The birds
       were large, and that just wasn't my cup of tea.
       As far as quality, the book is about like a lot of pigeon books
       I have seen, and it has some nice pictures in it.  It has a lot
       of good history in it, and the writing style is good.  There are
       just not that many books on rollers available, and I don't find
       having one more to be a concern for me.  The more I can collect
       the better.
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       Re: Tom Hatcher books
       By: ebrockman Date: April 13, 2013, 11:24 am
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       Thanks to those that have responded to my inquiry.  I have read
       the Pensom book and David Kowalsk's True Spinning Rollers II and
       am looking for something that goes beyond them.  It does not
       seem that these books do? I am just switching to rollers after
       having had racing pigeons for 20+ years and find it much more
       difficult to find literature related to the rollers.
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       Re: Tom Hatcher books
       By: nephilim Date: April 16, 2013, 7:17 pm
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       Hey.
       I got the Tom Hatcher for a few bucks from Jedds. It took
       for ever to turn up! When it did, I thought it a bit of a let
       down. Nothing special a cheap put together book. But I
       understand what you mean. I used to keep the racers.Mainly
       Kirkpatrick and Vandies. I like the lomg distance races. Your
       right not many good books on rollers. Try the All England Roller
       Club website, for a copy of Dexter's Winning with spinners book.
       I don't know how long you kept the racers or what races you
       where into. But everything you've learnt about raising race
       birds has to thrown out the window! You don't want to load the
       young with high protein food to build muscle or stamina, you
       want light well defined birds! Think Bruce Lee's body not Arnie
       Schwartz! I made that mistake, I had 6month old young birds
       flying 2+hrs and pinning out they was that high!! I had to use
       10x50 binnoculars to find them and watch them, they flew that
       high. Hope been Helpful friend
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       Re: Tom Hatcher books
       By: Arrowslinger Date: April 28, 2013, 10:26 am
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       I got caught up in Plona fever once after reading some articles
       in the APJ in that reading I found "Last of the greats" simple
       historical stuff with some decent photos. I then decided to
       write the author to pop a few questions at him about Plona.
       After a few letters I decided to buy a pair of the
       "Continentals" fly them and see, Tom sent two yearling torts
       that both turned out to be cock birds also in the box was a ten
       year old hen. Tom sent her saying she was old but did produce
       good birds and give her a try.
       I flew the two torts both larger than my birds and muffed one
       was a flapper in the roll god was he horrible, the other was a
       decent 20 foot spinner. The hen produced one fertile egg her
       first mating to an odd Reece cock I had and shortly later died.
       The youngster was as good as the Reece birds but a coopers hawk
       grabbed him off the landing perch.
       I was so focused on my other birds and flying that I honestly
       had no time to work in the decent tort cock. He was sold to a
       younger guy in Georgia that bred from him for years with good
       results.
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