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How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: driver_hr
Date: April 1, 2013, 8:11 am
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Hello guys i currently have a kitbox which i made myself. It has
mesh for around 70% of the front, i have been reading an i
understand that the birds will fly better if the kitbox is
darker.
I need to know how dark is good? As if its totally dark the
pigeons wont be able to see the food or water. Maybe a liitle
light in one corner of thr kitbox where their food is normally
placed?
Thanks.
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: 2y4life
Date: April 1, 2013, 8:37 am
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In the UK, not many fly from dark kitboxes anymore. As far as
kit performance, my general consensus based on talking to
numerous flyers is that dark and light does not make much of a
difference except when releasing from a dark kitbox, you might
get more initial action (and maybe bumpers) because of the
excitement. Other than that, it apparently isn't that big a
deal.
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: April 1, 2013, 9:23 am
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This dark or light kit box question comes up from time to time.
I tend to agree with 2y4life and others who have said that the
difference is negligible. However, I think that the dark kit box
can actually serve an unintended purpose in that an enclosed box
with no wire (but proper ventilation) will actually "hide" the
birds inside from prowling BOP.
I hear many stories about guys who's kit boxes have plenty of
wire on the fronts that go out to their kit boxes only to a see
BOP setting on top trying to figure out a way in! At this point,
if for no other reason I would recommend a dark kit box to
minimize revealing the contents of what's in the box to BOP.
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: 2y4life
Date: April 1, 2013, 9:38 am
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That is very true Tony. With open kitboxes, the BOPs know where
the buffet table is and will sit there waiting for a free meal
or sit at a nearby tree. With a fully enclosed kitbox, the bops
don't see the pigeons all the time.
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: April 1, 2013, 9:44 am
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Yep, eventually the BOP's hunger is going to make him move on.
Use the birds own instinct for survival to minimize or eliminate
his using your loft as a feeding ground.
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: chesley l warren
Date: April 1, 2013, 11:22 am
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Nice pictures. What type bop is on the post? I know what the
other culprit is ! :-\ thanks.. chesley
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: April 1, 2013, 11:25 am
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Peregrine Falcon.
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: April 2, 2013, 5:59 pm
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List... I am gonna play the devils advocate here... Contrary to
popular belief, I have removable hard wire cages on the front of
all my kit boxes all the time and have NEVER experienced any
problems with the BOP trying to get to my birds...
I also don't believe that a darkened kit box has anything to do
with the performance of my birds. Just my opinion
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: April 2, 2013, 7:02 pm
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haha...and the ONLY time I have actually seen a BOP on my kit
box was when it HAD a fixed wire box front to help settle young
birds. With the enclosed boxes I have NEVER seen one on the kit
box. Each one of us has to see what works for the environment we
are in and make adjustments as we go. Consider yourself
fortunate that you have not yet had a problem. ;D
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Re: How dark should my kitbox be?
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: April 6, 2013, 2:15 am
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I think they should be dark enough to preclude any direct
sunlight access. they shoud be secure and water tight enough to
keep out wind or snow or rain even when they come all together.
you can baffle your vents up top and restrict light and still
get great air exchange. The adavantage of flying from a darkened
kit box;
- it will serve to keep mating down and even less desire for
laying eggs in the kit boxes, In my opinion this is a major
no-no. It is something directly in your full control as manager.
darker kitboxes will help.
- preservation of a potential food source to hawks and
predators. Its becoming a big deal, do all that you can to keep
hawks from viewing your kits as a primary food resource and
becoming resident.
- It also draws less attraction from neighbors and or passers-by
and may deter some theft
- It will give them full protection to elements like wind, snow
ans rain. Where I live, I fly all winter and they must have some
greater meaure of enviromental protection.
There may be only minor improvements in perfromance, but can
have significxant improvements in protection and kit managemnt.
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