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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: michael salus
Date: February 22, 2013, 1:50 pm
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Raul, I think Driver's main question was, how do I get a hold
of George Mason. That's what I was trying to do, get him an
email or something. I think it is good he wants to go right to
George, and learn from him how to care for and fly that family
of bids. All families fly a little different and the more you
can learn the better. Like it's been said, putting up good kits
is 90% the trainer, thats why the same names are always on the
top of the score sheets. There are a lot of good families out
there.......
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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: raul carreiro
Date: February 22, 2013, 3:48 pm
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Hi superior spinners, yes driver was asking for info on how to
contact George, he also asked what was the difference between
normal rollers and Georges line of rollers... What is a normal
roller?
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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: driver_hr
Date: February 23, 2013, 2:58 am
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Hello thanks for the replies guys, some very useful information.
Basically i want some rollers which are from good blood lines as
i have only 4 rollers at the moment which were sold to me as
birmingham rollers and the seller did not have much information
on the blood lines. I am still in the process of training them.
These are the first pigeons ive ever kept.
I want some quality rollers from a reputable breeder so i know
the history of my birds. I have been researching online and
mason rollers do look interesting. An they do come on for sale
regulary on birdtrader.co.uk which is a leading website here in
the UK for buying and selling birds. But like i said i rather
buy straight from George Mason even if i have to pay more then
double the price as it will be beter for my own satisfication
knowing the birds are from him. But im still strugling to find
contact details but i have got some good advice on how to maybe
contact him.
I am still looking into this strain and trying to research
online, just need some more information on how they fly so i can
decide if they are for me or not. Is it true that mason rollers
tend to fly very low? Also if anyone know any other good strains
here in the UK then please let me know so i can look in to them.
Thank you
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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: lew3015
Date: February 23, 2013, 6:32 pm
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Driver to be honest with you, if you are just starting out with
rollers than the masons would not be a good fit, masons take
alot of patience and understanding, To answer your question
though, yes the ones that kit will fly low, at times to low and
they kit tight. A good starting family are the ruby rollers tony
sales here, they are easy to breed and handle.
Where are you located?
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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: February 23, 2013, 7:25 pm
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Good luck on finding some good stock to start out with driver.
You are headed in a successful direction with your thougts.
To be clear on this point;
All rollers are not created equal. Not all rollers will roll,
not with any kind of managment. Some are great, others are not
worth feeding. Some bloodlines are better at certain parts of
performance than are others.
I understand what these fellows are trying to get acrossed to
you. It takes sound managment to get the best from any birds no
matter their source. There are very few that are automatic about
thier performance. However, even the best manager cannot make a
cull roller spin with any degree of satisfactory performance,
let alone get a kit of them to shine. You must have the raw
materials, birds that possess the ability to perform great.
The good ones dont come in any great percentages, from any
where. There are culls in every bloodline. Each lineage has
peculiarity that is unique to that line. You must decide what
types of performance attributes you value most and then find a
line of birds that matches up best. You can only do this by
seeing them for yourself or having someone you trust view them
for you or by a reputation gained from years of putting birds in
the air. Most guys in this hobby are reputable, honest men who
enjoy the birds and want to help other get some enjoyment from
them too. There are, however, those whose ego or billfold
interfere. No problem with spending money for good birds. Just
know what you're getting and dont fall for the "they're all the
same its the manager" justification, they are not all the same.
Jon
PS I know little to nothing about Mason's birds, so Im not
promoting or discreting them.
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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: scott70
Date: February 23, 2013, 11:47 pm
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driver_hr I have Mason birds and Hannes Rossouw birds Lew is
right they are a family that you have to work with but if you do
they do very well in there kitting and they brake very well
together.
Like Jon said there is no family that is a turn key family you
will have good birds and bad in every family I wish you the best
of luck with your rollers I am sure you will do well with them
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Re: George Mason Rollers
DIR By: nephilim
Date: February 26, 2013, 5:19 am
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Hey driver.
Where abouts in the UK are you? As
there is always a good comp roller flyer near by. Also give us
some information on your management, How do you keep them?
Kitbox or loft? I'm sure there's people who can point you a good
management level, but this is an American site, and there
weather is a lot different to ours at this time of the year. You
really want to get onto the UK sites, to have a better chance to
obtain the birds you want. The AERC is having an AGM soon, you
should contact the club Sec and ask if you could attend with the
view to join and make contact with some fellow flyers with the
intetion of buying stock. If/when you get any bird from Mr Mason
or the countless other "champ" flyers. I would suggest you keep
these birds in and breed them hard, by using any other birds as
foster birds. by this I mean get yourself half a dozen pairs of
racing or fantails. let these birds pair up and lay.Then put the
eggs from your rollers under the foster's and bin their eggs.
You have a couple of days in which you can do this. That way
your rollers will lay again about 10days later and you keep
repeating this till all the foster birds are sitting roller
eggs, you'll be wise to add dome liquid calcium to the rollers
water, to help with egg production. Do this for your first year,
then sell the foster birds or give them to a new starter. You'll
soon have a big team to select your future breeding birds from.
Just one more point, why do you want Mason rollers? have you
seen them fly and perform?
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