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#Post#: 12181--------------------------------------------------
help please
DIR By: mark leggett
Date: February 9, 2013, 2:30 pm
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hi all i got 10 rollers, when i let them out all the do is sit
on the roof.i tried flaging them up but all they do them is sit
on the flats behind us,any help will be good
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Re: help please
DIR By: lew3015
Date: February 10, 2013, 9:56 am
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Cut their feed down to 1/2 of what your feeding them for a few
days, the day you plan on flying, do not feed or water them
before you put them out, you want them hungry, put them in a
cage and take them 1/4 mile away than let them out. They will
have to fly to get back to the loft.
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Re: help please
DIR By: mark leggett
Date: February 10, 2013, 1:08 pm
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will rollers get back i was told you cant do that with them.
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Re: help please
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: February 10, 2013, 8:11 pm
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start by taking them a hundred meters away, take them 200 the
next day. work them up to 1/4 mile. take them in a direction
that has the most open space, as oyu dont want to be depositing
them on your neighbors rooftops instead of your own. You may
lose some doing this, but if you do it gradually, you will
likely not. If you do, it is no matter because a roller that
wont fly is as useless as a lost one.
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Re: help please
DIR By: lew3015
Date: February 10, 2013, 9:54 pm
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Yes do it as wishiwon2 said, I live in the county, so my birds
can see my loft a 1/4 mile with no problems, all open fields, I
forget some people have to raise birds close to other people
homes.
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Re: help please
DIR By: mark leggett
Date: February 11, 2013, 1:49 pm
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ok i let you know how it go
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Re: help please
DIR By: Kevin Thao
Date: February 16, 2013, 11:37 pm
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It's either that they are lazy or have been trained to stay
around,where did u get them?better to start off with young birds
so it is easier to train. Once a bird gets used to sitting
around,they will always sit around.Either u breed them for
youngs,get a good pair to breed or start out by getting young
birds from a local flyer.
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Re: help please
DIR By: nephilim
Date: February 22, 2013, 11:35 am
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Lazy birds become lazy because they're aloud to. Can you contact
the seller and ask searching questions like why did you sell?
and how often he let them out? There could be loads of reasons
why they're not flying. To much and wrong type of feeding will
be a big factor.But I always look at it from another direction.
If previous owner gave them an open door, by that I mean just
got up and while breafast is cooking, just opened the coop and
left them to it, they would have become like fantails and just
sit around waiting to be let back in later that day. This habit
is really hard one to break, but with time and patience can be
broken, but in all honesty it would be easier and quicker to
cull them and start again with young or birds that you've seen
flying Another reason could be Bop's. You might not have seen
any, but your birds could have spotted something way up high, so
they're sitting tight till the threat has passed by, then
they'll make the move to get back to the safety of the coop. As
stated cut the food split them cocks and hens, then try flying
them as single sex kit. A good friend of mine birds suddenly
became roof sitters, he was ready to kill them, but I asked
about Bops, then it all fell into place. He bred of the sitters
and their young flew great, but it took nearly 2yrs to break
them from sitting, all this was due to them being hit by a
perregrine falcon. Take your time with them, if you think
they're worth it, you get your rewards in time.
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Re: help please
DIR By: mark leggett
Date: February 23, 2013, 12:57 pm
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they was yongbirds i bread them old birds that someone gave me
and when he had them they did fly well.anyhow i getting rid of
them and getting some more.
#Post#: 12224--------------------------------------------------
Re: help please
DIR By: Applegate
Date: February 25, 2013, 1:39 am
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Hi Mark, Sorry if these are things you already know, but here
was my plan last year when I switched families and had to train
all young birds: In March I put together 10 breeding pairs, and
20 foster pairings (foster pairings were junk birds /
roll-downs/ odd and ends, etc). Everyday I would record
egg-laying dates, and eggs would be transferred from the breeder
to the foster nests (replacing the foster pairs eggs). This
will get you the maximum number of early rounds of young out of
your good breeders to train through the summer.....the longer
you can fly them before crappy winter weather hits, the better.
As soon as the young were begging at the front of the nestbox
and feathered in under the wing, I would take them out to the
kitbox and put them through the trap door and let them sit
inside it for a couple hours during the day. Then they would go
back to the nestbox for the night. I do this everyday if I can
until they are eating on their own. As soon as they are eating
on their own, they are ready for to be moved to the kitbox. For
the first couple days, put them in a wire cage over the trap
door so they can get comfortable with their surroundings. My
wire cage is 2' X 2' X 2'. Put all the birds in the cage
hungry, and get them to travel through the traps and reward them
with sprinkles of grain on the kitbox floor while you whistle
and shake the feed can. Once all the young are responding and
entering, give them their full ration of feed for the day.
After 4-5 days of this, you should be ready to let them out for
their first time. Do NOT feed them the day before you let them
out for the first time, they need to be so hungry that their
wings are flapping and they are crawling over each other to get
to the feed can! Pick a day that has no wind and put them in the
cage late morning, let them sit in there for a couple hours. I
will have my feed can and whistle to test them and see that they
are very hungry. I will take them out and gently set them on
the kitbox roof in a group. Sometimes a couple will take off
and fly around, ending up on the ground, in trees, or a
neighbors roof and I'm ok with that on their first time out.
Then I grab the feed can and get them all back inside the
kitbox. I will keep doing this 3 or 4 times the first day, and
then give them their full ration. After a few days the birds
know where "home" is, then the next challenge is to get them
flying. On their first fly I'll prop open the kitbox door, and
gently coax them off their perches. (I have to mention that one
of my families of birds are very excitable, so I try to get them
in the habit of staying calm or they bump on take off and
landing). Once they are all on the roof, I have a 5' piece of
PVC pipe with a loud trash bag taped to it like a flag and scare
them up all at once. (Make sure they have never seen it before
or they will not react to it!). They will be all over the sky
at different levels but do not tolerate any bird that lands on
anything except the kitbox roof. I use tennis balls and the
flag to scare them off roof tops and trees. After a couple days
of this the birds will start learning that when the kitbox door
is fully open.....it's time to fly! You'll always have some
birds that are resistant and will remain on the perches, you
might have to take your flag and scare them out of the kitbox.
After a few days, you'll see the birds starting to kit. Another
important part of getting the maximum out of your birds is how
often you fly them. When I train young bird kits, I fly them
once a day during the week, and twice on the weekends. Feeding
is also a critical part of getting the most out of your birds.
For 25 birds, I feed .25 cup milo, .25 cup safflower, .75 cup
austrian peas, and 1.25 cups of wheat, or slight variations of
that. I feed .25 cups of grit twice a week also. I feed each
grain type separately also, which I highly recommend to get an
equal energy level in your birds when you fly them. I'm not
sure if you'll see the maximum potential out of your current
birds if they already have some quirky habits (?). If they come
from some proven performers, you might want to breed some young
off them this year and see what you get.
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