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       #Post#: 12168--------------------------------------------------
       My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: driver_hr
       Date: February 5, 2013, 12:44 pm
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       Hello guys i have had my 4 roller pigeons for around a month
       now. They had around a week in the settling cage where they
       spent most of their time during the day and they were also trap
       trained.
       
       Today i had them all in the settling cage but moved the cage
       around 12 feet from their kitbox. I started shaking the feed can
       and opening the door to the settling cage. They all just took
       off and flew in large circles around my house and then just flew
       in the opposite direction.
       
       They were hungry as i did not feed them yesterday. I am just
       very confused as i dont know what i did wrong. This is the first
       time i've kept pigeons.
       
       I am looking to buy some more rollers but need to know what to
       do different this time.
       Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you.
       #Post#: 12169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: mark leggett
       Date: February 5, 2013, 2:04 pm
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       hi mate sory to hear about your loss its realy heart brakeing
       when that happens.were they young birds or old birds.if they are
       old birds its lucky to get them broke in,you need young birds
       straight from the nest so they cant fly far,that way you can put
       them out on the loft for about 20 mins a day,then that way they
       get to know the seroundings and they soom know where they
       live,hope this is a help.
       #Post#: 12171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: driver_hr
       Date: February 5, 2013, 4:25 pm
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       The age of the birds was around 4 months. Are they still classed
       as young birds at that age?
       Also what is the best age to buy young rollers at? As im looking
       for some more now
       Thanks
       #Post#: 12172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: mark leggett
       Date: February 6, 2013, 1:52 pm
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       they were still young birds but to late,you need to get them as
       they are weaned from the nest,that way you can put them out on
       the loft before they can fly to far.
       #Post#: 12173--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: mark leggett
       Date: February 6, 2013, 1:55 pm
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       i have had pigeons for a lot of years and thats the way i do it
       anyway.should work for you
       #Post#: 12174--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: driver_hr
       Date: February 6, 2013, 4:39 pm
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       I have bought 3 more pigeons today all 12 weeks old and have
       never flown before. This time i will soap their wings or tie
       them when letting them out for the first time after i think they
       have settled and trap trained well.
       How long do you think the process should take from getting my
       rollers today to releasing them for the first time? This is what
       i was thinking:
       0-7 days - train them to the feed call
       7-21 days - attach settling cage and train them to trap train.
       21-28 days - soap their wings and let them out for the first
       time
       Then take things from there. What do you think?
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 12177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: mark leggett
       Date: February 7, 2013, 1:54 pm
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       that sounds good but dont rush them the longer you soap the
       wings the better.i once broke some racers in. i put elasticbands
       round the wings for about a month and that worked,
       #Post#: 12178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: Jon
       Date: February 7, 2013, 11:04 pm
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       I usually keep the birds for about 1 month. Put them into a
       separate cage on top of your loft so they can see from above.
       I'll not feed them for two days prior. Tape their flight
       feathers and turn them loose when it's almost dark. Just open
       the loft door and let them come out on their own. Do not scare
       or throw them out or up.  They don't want to go anywhere because
       it's getting dark. i don't think you have to treat them like
       homers because they don't have that desire to fly great
       distances. This has worked for me but it is not 100%. You might
       try only turning one bird loose at a time.
       #Post#: 12190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: February 13, 2013, 11:15 am
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       As I remember, YOU were told in an earlier thread, to leave the
       birds in the settling cage for 10-14 days..... You said they
       were in for 7... It may sound trivial.... but, those EXTRA days
       can be crushal...
       #Post#: 12192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My rollers flew away today
   DIR By: chesley l warren
       Date: February 13, 2013, 6:14 pm
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       Sorry about your birds.I'll share how I do mine. I made a
       settling cage 16"X24"  10" high make demensions to fit your
       need, I have a pull up door on the top side that snaps to close
       to put birds in  cage.  I take Ybs put them in there, let them
       set on top of kit boxes  a couple hrs a day,  7 or so days, Then
       I have landing board attached on door of kit box, the door has a
       4" pvc trap. the settling cage sets on landing board, settling
       cage  has a removble overhead pull up door. I have a   grove
       that is  cut into a  piece  of 2x2 on each left and right side
       that allows the  door 6"x10" to slide up and out of the groves
       that act as a track to keep the door in track. I slide the
       settling cage up to pvc trap,remove the pull up door and they
       can trap. Usually 1st or 2nd time I may have to push them
       through the trap, this being done using a   6"x10" door that is
       oposite  of the the trap door on the other side. It is  hinged
       at top and can be pushed inward only and  a homemade latch that
       keeps it secure when not in use.  Some times I take ybs that are
       trap trained, and  after a fly with older birds, I'll  slide the
       settling cage over to the kit box where the older birds have
       trapped and  let the ybs trap  behind  the   older bird kit in
       same kit box, next day I will take the ybs out by hand one at
       the time, set each one on top of the kit box roof,  I release
       the old kit birds, the ybs see old birds fly, and they will trap
       usually after and behind  the old kit birds. one day when they
       get tired of watching   the old birds  one or two may take to
       the air. If old kit wants to come down early because of the ybs,
       then I will go do them seperate in their own private kb.  I  set
       settling cage with 12 ybs on the ground 2 weeks ago, and rode
       off on  my 4 wheller to a friends hse, when I came back a cooper
       hawk was attacking the birds in the settling cage.  He had,  put
       his talons on one birds lower back and brought blood out of of
       anothers craw. They are ok now,  I knew better than to leave
       them unattended ... Can't fix stupid  so I've herd?---------
       GOOD LUCK  with your new birds.  chesley
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