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       #Post#: 12115--------------------------------------------------
       Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas bought.
   DIR By: driver_hr
       Date: January 7, 2013, 6:17 pm
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       Hello guys i have been feeding my birmingham rollers a standard
       mix. I have only had the roller for a few weeks and will start
       to train them soon. I have never kept pigeons before.
       I have been doing alot of reading and i have found most people
       feed milo and wheat 50/50 and some people add some peas for
       protein.
       I am from the uk and the only wheat i could get hold of is the
       standard type which is produced here and it contains between 10
       and 11.5% protein. I have also got white milo which is called
       dari here in the UK and i have also got some maple peas. Now i
       need to know how much percent or in what ratio should i feed
       these? I think the wheat here in th uk contains less protein
       then which is available in the usa so i thought i can add the
       maple peas to up this.
       Also i have only 4 rollers and i bought 25kg sack of both the
       milo and wheat. There isnt a expiry date on ths sacks, do these
       items even have a expiry or do they turn bad after a certain
       amount of time? Thank you.
       #Post#: 12116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: alohabirds
       Date: January 7, 2013, 6:41 pm
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       #Post#: 12117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: wishiwon2
       Date: January 7, 2013, 11:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: driver_hr link ---
       >
       > Hello guys i have been feeding my birmingham rollers a
       standard mix. I have only had the roller for a few weeks and
       will start to train them soon. I have never kept pigeons before.
       >
       > I have been doing alot of reading and i have found most people
       feed milo and wheat 50/50 and some people add some peas for
       protein.
       >
       > I am from the uk and the only wheat i could get hold of is the
       standard type which is produced here and it contains between 10
       and 11.5% protein. I have also got white milo which is called
       dari here in the UK and i have also got some maple peas. Now i
       need to know how much percent or in what ratio should i feed
       these? I think the wheat here in th uk contains less protein
       then which is available in the usa so i thought i can add the
       maple peas to up this.
       >
       > Also i have only 4 rollers and i bought 25kg sack of both the
       milo and wheat. There isnt a expiry date on ths sacks, do these
       items even have a expiry or do they turn bad after a certain
       amount of time? Thank you.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Your wheat is similar to the wheat in US. There are varying
       grades here too dpeending on whether its intended for human
       consumption and in what form (flour, cracked, etc) Most runs in
       the 10-14% range.
       
       Keep your grains in a garbage bin with a snap on lid. As long as
       you keep it dry, away from vermin and out of sunlight it should
       last you several months. If you notice some weevil getting into
       it, place a couple of sticks of mint gum pushed down into the
       sack.
       
       Maybe you already understand this, but. When you feed, feed 1
       type grain at a time. ex; feed the wheat and when its cleaned
       up, then feed the dari, when its gone feed the peas, etc. You
       may vary which grains you feed first or last some too. This is
       for kit birds or flying birds. Mix it al together for your
       breeding birds, it doesnt matter then.
       
       #Post#: 12118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: driver_hr
       Date: January 8, 2013, 3:38 am
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       So the grains will only last several months? I thought they
       would last several years if kept dry?
       An how much percent of protein do birmingham rollers need?
       Thank you.
       #Post#: 12121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: January 8, 2013, 9:53 am
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       driver_hr.....  under the "perfect" conditions anything is
       possible, any products may last for years....
       If your going to just feed the wheat and milo, it's a 50/50 mix.
       As for the ratio of feed, I mix 1/3 wheat, 1/3 milo, 1/3 peas.
       Youngsters need all the nutritian they can get so, feed them.
       Don't start cutting the feed until your birds are all rolling,
       then start to cut back on the amount of feed.  Most guys go by
       1tbl per bird.. It's kinda like trial and error...
       #Post#: 12123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: driver_hr
       Date: January 9, 2013, 3:35 am
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       Thank you for the advice guys. Is it best to measure the feed in
       weight or volume like number of teaspoons? I always wondered
       this if feeding wheat and milo 50/50 then for example 1oz of
       wheat can be much more then milo in volume.
       Thanks once again.
       #Post#: 12124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: January 9, 2013, 10:27 am
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       driver_hr......when measuring out your feed most of us use the
       standard 1 cup for 10 birds or 1 tbl per bird, then go
       accordingly with your adjustments...
       #Post#: 12126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Need help to make my own mix ---- wheat, milo and peas
       bought.
   DIR By: wishiwon2
       Date: January 9, 2013, 4:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: driver_hr link ---
       >
       > Thank you for the advice guys. Is it best to measure the feed
       in weight or volume like number of teaspoons? I always wondered
       this if feeding wheat and milo 50/50 then for example 1oz of
       wheat can be much more then milo in volume.
       >
       > Thanks once again.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Measure by volume.
       
       Rollers dont need high protein percentages. Some literature
       suggests there is a maximum percent or crude protein that is
       utilizable, somewhere around 18-20%. Since protein is one of the
       more expensive components, there is no sense in buying more than
       the birds can use. In my experience they do just fine on about
       14%.
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