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       #Post#: 11911--------------------------------------------------
       Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: rolldown
       Date: November 10, 2012, 8:51 am
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       Okay, I've got a bit of a problem. I have a small shed thats
       about 50 ft from my kitbox and the coopers hawks keep using this
       as cover. They come shooting over it just as my birds are
       landing and snag a bird, it happened again this morning. >:( It
       happens so fast, theres not much I can do to scare them away in
       time. I'm trying to think of something I can put on the roof or
       backside of the shed to scare them. Any ideas? Joe
       #Post#: 11912--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: November 10, 2012, 3:51 pm
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       hay joe put some of wire or board under there where the bop set
       at and make go around the building that should work for you
       donniejames
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       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: birdman
       Date: November 10, 2012, 9:13 pm
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       Put a sign on the loft that says 'CLOSED'.  That should keep
       them safe until its time to fly again in the Spring.  LOL
       #Post#: 11914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: chesley l warren
       Date: November 11, 2012, 9:40 pm
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       hey roll down, I had the soame tactics used on me this morning.
       I learned from that too.  There is tall pines 200 east behind my
       ruby loft , then 15' in front of that  is my ruby kit pin
       Cooper Hawk swooped from the tall pines I think swooped abot 2
       ft ove the ruby brood pin, there I set and he flew right over me
       and  the ruby kit pen and flew  to a low limb on an oak
       sitting on limb like 100' infront of me just looking around.
       Some birds were into landing, trapping, some hauled butt and
       some just sat there for a little while but trapped, the other
       aerial birds come on in in about 5 min trapped. No loss of
       pigeons------------------ chesley
       #Post#: 11915--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: slvrollers
       Date: November 12, 2012, 9:40 am
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       Hey Rolldown   I put some 12" by 12" inch mirrors around the
       loft area.  I read on a racing pigeon site that hawks don't like
       shinny things.  So i put some mirrors on the roof of my shed,
       loft and house and have not had a problem with hawks at the
       loft. Also hang some old cd's on some string and they will spin
       in the wind.  Now when i do have an attack it is will they are
       flying. The birds seam to evade the hawks when the are out in
       the open. Not so lucky when being surprised by the hawk using
       cover to sneak up on them. This has worked for me and doesn't
       bother your rollers at all.
       #Post#: 11916--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: November 12, 2012, 10:04 am
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       There are no effective deterrents, unfortunately. Most of these
       gimmics are ineffective once the hawk figures out they are not
       really a threat.....and they WILL figure it out. Some sort of
       visible barrier or netting would probably be more effective.
       Cliff
       #Post#: 11918--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: Joe Asaro
       Date: November 12, 2012, 12:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: Cliff Ball link ---
       >
       > There are no effective deterrents, unfortunately. Most of
       these gimmics are ineffective once the hawk figures out they are
       not really a threat.....and they WILL figure it out. Some sort
       of visible barrier or netting would probably be more effective.
       > Cliff
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Netting = trapping in the eyes of the fed's.$10,000 type fines.
       :o >:( Joe
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       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: Tony Chavarria
       Date: November 12, 2012, 1:19 pm
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       For starters your loft and setup may be showcasing your dinner
       menu via wired pens and other blatant non-obscured views of your
       birds. Are these BOP hanging around because they see them all
       day long and are just waiting for the next tasty meal and the
       opportunity to go feed?
       Cover your loft, all exposed views to your birds and lock down
       for awhile. Hunger will cause the BOP to seek prey elsewhere.
       Use its own biological drives to make it go away on its own.
       Good luck!  ;D
       #Post#: 11922--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: November 12, 2012, 1:20 pm
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       Joe,
       I am not recommending netting them. I was thinking more along
       the lines of the camo netting used to make hunting blinds that
       might serve as a barrier deterrent. They look like a solid wall
       and would be unlikely to ensnare the BOP, just make them look
       for alternative routes of attack, which I think was rolldown's
       objective , if I understood him correctly. Obviously if the BOP
       started becoming entangled in it, it would have to come down.
       Cliff
       #Post#: 11923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawk deterrent to put on my shed?
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: November 12, 2012, 1:27 pm
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       Joe..... I put up 2 firugrines of OWL's, they are about 2' tall
       and have heads that swivel when the wind blow. at each corner of
       my 18'x21' loft.  It kept the hawks from attacking the birds on
       the roof.   The attacks come while the birds are in the air.
       But, like Cliff stated once they get use to the deterients, they
       go back to the attacks.... Thank GOD I have resident CROWS they
       do a get job of chasing the BOP out of my fly space
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