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       #Post#: 11908--------------------------------------------------
       young Ruby kit 
       By: slvrollers Date: November 9, 2012, 1:17 pm
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       My kit is eight months old and half the kit rolling hard. The
       other half is rolling two our three revolutions. I'm thinking
       the ones that are rolling hard are needing rest days between fly
       days. So I think its time to fly every other day instead of
       every day even though the other half of the kit is not as
       matured. So i was wondering when you Ruby fliers start giving
       your birds a rest day? At what stage of the development? Do you
       wait till the whole kit is rolling hard and working together?
       Thanks!
       #Post#: 11909--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: oldfart Date: November 9, 2012, 4:59 pm
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       Hey Mike, I will speak about my Ruby's but understand they are
       most likely not exactly like yours. I have found that a flying
       with a rest day once a week is best for my young birds.
       Yearlings get one day on and one day off when in form, not in
       the moult and after conditioning by flying everyday in the
       spring. Older birds fly every second or third day depending on
       their condition.
       Hope this helps
       Take care
       Thom
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       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: slvrollers Date: November 10, 2012, 1:24 am
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       Thanks Thom and yes your input does help!! Reassures me of what
       i was thinking.
       #Post#: 11924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: Joe Asaro Date: November 12, 2012, 1:31 pm
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       [quote author=slvrollers link=topic=1058.msg11908#msg11908
       date=1352488631]
       My kit is eight months old and half the kit rolling hard. The
       other half is rolling two our three revolutions. I'm thinking
       the ones that are rolling hard are needing rest days between fly
       days. So I think its time to fly every other day instead of
       every day even though the other half of the kit is not as
       matured. So i was wondering when you Ruby fliers start giving
       your birds a rest day? At what stage of the development? Do you
       wait till the whole kit is rolling hard and working together?
       Thanks!
       [/quote]There are no rest day till the sharks in the sky come
       for breakfast lunch or dinner. :o >:( Joe
       #Post#: 12075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: Keyser Date: January 2, 2013, 10:06 am
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       Hi, my ruby rollers are also 8 months old but I don't fly them
       because of birds of prey this time of year. but I am having a
       very good success at breeding them. I was wondering if I could
       start training this summer and still get a good result or are
       they too old. Or should I keep them as just breeders?  Thanks!!
       #Post#: 12076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: windjammer loft Date: January 2, 2013, 5:36 pm
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       Depending on where you live, but,I would put off breeding, until
       I could start training them right after taking them out of the
       nest ...
       #Post#: 12077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: slvrollers Date: January 2, 2013, 7:50 pm
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       You need to fly these babies as soon as they can fly if you want
       them to develop into good rollers. Time your babies so you can
       fly them right away after BOP leave.
       Flying at the ages 2 months to 18 months is very crucial to
       their development as a roller. They may never roll if you wait
       to long to fly them. Again you need to fly the babies before the
       get to old so they develop properly. The Ruby's are a good line
       of Roller. Tony's has done a lot of hard work to get them were
       they are at. I like the ones i have a lot. You should order How
       to breed better rollers from Tony. It has good information on
       breeding the best rollers. It change my thinking on breeding.
       
       #Post#: 12189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: windjammer loft Date: February 13, 2013, 10:58 am
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       Keyser
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       />[font=arial]if your birds have not hit the air at that age I
       would scrape the idea of EVEN trying to fly them. [/font]
       #Post#: 12191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: LittleJohn Date: February 13, 2013, 1:02 pm
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       You can fly older birds, but it takes a lot of work and a lot of
       time and a lot of patience to get them to the point where they
       are kitting well and rolling well.  I have seen where people say
       that if they dont develop at a young age then they are no
       good...and this is not true.  I would definitely not recommend
       it to someone who is new to the hobby however, as it takes a
       long time and can be frustrating at times.
       
       Your best bet is to raise some young, and get them in the air
       before they are 4 weeks old.  The sooner the better.  There are
       many ways to train young birds, so use whatever way works best
       for you...just get em flyin as soon as possible and most of them
       will train themselves.  My daughter will be flying her first
       ruby rollers this year and I am looking forward to seeing how
       they do for her.  Never seen one in the air yet.
       
       LittleJohn
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       Re: young Ruby kit 
       By: Keyser Date: March 6, 2013, 12:00 pm
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       [quote author=windjammer loft link=topic=1058.msg12189#msg12189
       date=1360774722]
       Keyser
  HTML http://www.rollerpigeon.com/index.php?action=profile;u=714...<br
       />[font=arial]if your birds have not hit the air at that age I
       would scrape the idea of EVEN trying to fly them. [/font]
       [/quote] thanks for the advice. I just put 4 ruby rollers into
       the kit box they are 3 months old I have 2 more that I'm going
       to put in their next week. I just lost my foundation cock to BOP
       Good thing for foster parents. I know I need to get my
       youngsters in the air as soon as possible but I'm frustrated
       because of BOP. My new foundation cock is approximately 5 months
       old he looks just like Tony's 903 lavender cock which I plan on
       pairing him up with his mother.  I have lots of birds but I just
       started managing my ruby rollers now I know how to breed
       hopefully good birds. I have two lofts and one kit box it  whole
       15 birds
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