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The Strain Enigma
By: Mathieu Date: September 30, 2012, 11:37 am
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When people spend years creating a strain such as the Ruby
Rollers which have won praise from other fanciers they have the
right to be called a strain maker. Such birds conform to the
breeders experience and ideas of what a birmingham roller should
look like and perform.
During his experience in creating the perticular strain, he will
have culled many a bird which did not match his standard, when
he sells on this progeny or give them to his friends as
presents, he makes sure that the people who buy the birds are
responsible roller breeders who will continue keeping up the
standard of his ideological Birmingham Roller. If his friends
however cross them with other breeds they can not say e.g "I
have Ruby Rollers" or "Ollie Harris" or "Ken White" etc. We
cannot say my rollers are half Rubies and half Ken White. Once
your rollers are crossed with another strain then they are no
longer a Ruby or a Ken White or Whatever.
Sometimes really bad birds are kept just because we simply
believe they of a certain strain. it takes hard work and extreme
sacrifice to keep a strain pure, and even more sacrifice to
create our own strain for that matter.
Top Rollers will deteriorate in the hands of those who do not
have the stamina and discipline to improve their stock. It is of
no benifit to say "I have bought a flock of top birds from such
and such a breeder" but not continue to maintain the standard,
no...improve the standard
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: donnie james Date: September 30, 2012, 3:53 pm
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hay mathieu and list
let say fisrt off the bat very good post and you getting your
point across i feel you left one part forget say people don't
get a cradit for making a family up it takes year to do my
question is how many years it take to make a family of your own
??? ??? ??? ??? ?and how mane years can call your own? ???
??sorry for taking up your guys time donnie james
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: Mathieu Date: September 30, 2012, 11:46 pm
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Hi Donnie,
Thanks for the post. Its very difficult to say when you have
your own family. Every roller man should have his ideal roller
in mind. That is the standards you want to aspire. The way you
want your birds to look, the way you want your birds to fly and
the way you want your birds to perform. It is very easy to
become influenced by the opinions of others, so you have to
spend may hours in your loft, looking for the best birds which
match YOUR ideal of a Birmingham roller. Remember we spend many
hours in the loft looking at our birds and many hours watching
them fly. So our birds have to look good as well as fly like
champions.
I believe it takes as much time as it takes until you get the
standard which you aspired to.
I keep Ollie Harris birds in one loft and Ken White birds in
another. I always keep these strains pure, then I have been
mixing in a seperate loft in order to create my ideal Birminham
Roller....it still illudes me many years later. I am also very
strict when it comes to culling the birds I keep so that I keep
up the standard of the birds I have and the birds I want to
create.
I admire people who have created their own strains. We just have
to keep on trying to improve the quality of our birds, the
compliments will come from our fellow Roller Breeders and
friends who admire these little birds which we own and proudly
fly.
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: donnie james Date: October 2, 2012, 12:25 pm
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hay mayhieu,
i had to go to dialysis yestersday its a all day job to i have
to leave the 10 to 9 and don't get home about 3:30 - 4:00 and
you brought out some good points i got tom monson and my blue
almonds in loft i been breeding the 2 family for the last few
years they spin about the same if i had to i can the monsons and
the blue almonds pure if want to..............wel l better close
i said to much i don't want get kick off................
.............donnie james
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: Mathieu Date: October 3, 2012, 12:18 am
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Hi Donny,
I hope you well. Most posts have some educational value. The
truth is that most of us me included tell half the story. So
most of us decide to leave out our defeats, failures and roll
downs. I have been breeding for a long time, and many of my
birds never come near to the ideal standard of perfect rolling
action, and many of these birds who seem perfect at first only
to deteriorate in time, or even roll down and kill themselves.
The cleaning of the loft, the laborious routine,the
self-discipline, the self sacrifice, the responsibility, the
dedication, the stress, the frustration, the anger are seldom
expressed in these posts. This is unfair and misleading.
The reason why I am writing this is because I feel that by not
reporting our breeding errors, other breeders become confused
and frustrated thinking that they are doing something wrong.
Which is not the case.
Having good birds as breeding stock is important, however to
develop good younsters and your own strain takes a lot of "Blood
Sweat and Tears"
Take care Mathieu ;)
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: raul carreiro Date: October 3, 2012, 11:58 am
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Very well said Mathieu, You say the truth and nothing but the
truth ;D Having a good line of birds as breeders to begin with
is just half the battle! Its a war that can take a lifetime to
win :D !
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: Mathieu Date: October 3, 2012, 1:01 pm
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Thank you Raul,
I remember when I first started with rollers, I said "In three
years I'll have one of the best kit's in town" six years later I
was still trying to have the best kit in town...and now
seventeen years later...I realised....True Rollers! a life time
project, the more you your learn about breeding rollers the more
you realise there is no gospel truth :D The bottom line is
that I love my birds, I care about them and I am proud of them,
I hope one day i will be able to have the "perfect Kit" not
because I want to compete and win against men but because I want
to compete and win against nature...and you know what they say
when you compete with nature............. ....you never win :P
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Re: The Strain Enigma
By: donnie james Date: October 4, 2012, 4:18 pm
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hay mathieu,
thank you for best wishes, i have to agree with you on your
points i been into for a long time to (38 years) i have to agree
with on roll downs and killing there self's myself i cull hard
and give them to same who wants birds to play around with i feel
if you got the right stock to breed from you should less culling
and less roll down it might take a few years to figure out and
get the right birds yes it take blood sweat and tears donnie
james
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