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#Post#: 493--------------------------------------------------
Full fight from Dune 2021
By: Dutch Date: October 28, 2021, 1:35 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMCmlTkzlhM
(With the director's commentary.)
So we now have the whole fight, and it's glorious. It totally
showcases real-life martial arts, along with subtle differences
because of the shields.
Again, the fight uses a lot of kali/arnis/eskrima, and Gurney
also seems to be familiar with German messer. The first section
really showcases the style of Balintawak Eskrima (yes, I pasted
that name). Here's a grandmaster of that style in action:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nhT85HkX_E
In all kali, the off hand (hand without a weapon) is used to
block and deflect the attacks of the enemy. In Balintawak
Eskrima, this is dialed up to 11. The left hand is a flurry of
motion, being the primary defensive tool. The idea is the push
the enemy's arm aside as they strike so you can use your own
weapon.
Anyway, on to the breakdown!
Gurney is powerful, aggressive, and brutal. His footwork is
solid, planted and concrete. Gurney's feints (false strikes)
consist of power strikes, and his strategy consists of trying to
overwhelm and overpower Paul before landing slow hits designed
to penetrate the shield.
Paul is graceful and agile. His footwork uses a lot of
sidesteps, true to the foundations of kali.
Gurney and Paul are both using short swords like the Dao. When I
said in an earlier post that they were kindjals I was wrong.
Actually, Gurney's might be one.
The fight starts with some excellent close combat that's really
a treat to watch, with excellent flow, technique, and speed,
though it's a bit too clean and idealized. Gurney twirls his
sword and the two attack. Paul attacks with a thrust—Gurney
avoids and strikes the back of Paul's body shield. Gurney
attacks again. Paul blocks and counters. After several exchanges
Paul gets to the side of Gurney and strikes his trainer's knee
shield with the hilt of his own sword as Gurney lands a similar
hit to his head shield. Paul jumps back up and attempts to
throw Gurney off balance, but Gurney moves in too fast for that
and passes his sword through the shield, pressing it to Paul's
neck.
Then Gurney charges again. First off, Gurney attacks with strike
#10 (straight thrust at the chest). Paul sidesteps, but before
he can riposte, Gurney comes back with strike #4, a horizontal
swing from the left. Paul is surprised and barely manages to
block. Then Gurney twists his sword around Paul's in a
messer-like technique and disarms him with a quick movement
before sweeping at him with a slow strike #4. Paul voids and
leaps over the table before grabbing a couple of daggers from
the top.
Gurney swings down with a #1. Paul dodges and lands a hit on his
trainer's arm, which is stopped by the shield. Gurney recovers
with a #4 while drawing Paul's attention to his off hand, which
Paul lands a hit on. Paul dodges Gurney's strike before the
latter attacks with another #1. Paul blocks with his forearm and
appears to try a #7 strike, a high thrust on the right. Gurney
intercepts it with a #2, but Paul intercepts his counterattack
with another #2 with his left knife, shoving Gurney's arm aside.
However, he doesn't take advantage of the opening in time before
Gurney brings his arm back with a #4 and then uses a powerful
#10 to knock Paul down.
Paul switches grips. The advantage of the reverse grip is that
he can easily deflect enemy strikes with either hand. Gurney
closes and strikes with another #1. Paul deflects his arm with
his left hand (amazing technique there) and then rushes in to
land a hit on Gurney's knee, which looks to be just fast enough
to be stopped by the latter's shield.
Gurney falls back and Paul presses his attack. He lands a double
#5 strike with both hands, then brings his right hand back in
another #5 very quickly. These strikes are aimed at Gurney's
face and so they temporarily blind him with the shield flashes.
Gurney switches his sword to his left hand as Paul spins (a very
realistic spin), catches Gurney's strike with his right hand,
and trips his trainer up with a hook-type #3 behind the knee.
Gurney falls to the floor and Paul brings his knives to the
former's throat. Gurney says, "You'd have joined me in death,"
as Paul realizes that Gurney's sword is through the shield and
pointed at his heart.
Only problems: When Paul deflects Gurney's arm, it goes way too
far (as if Paul were superhumanly strong). Gurney doesn't do
much in the last few seconds, seeming to want to get hit—though
he does move a bit, it's not enough.
Overall, though, I'd say this is a masterpiece. The characters
are fast, skilled, not overly flashy, etc, even if some
movements are exaggerated. It also reflects the difference of
shield-combat. 8/10.
EDIT: Copied this to the Knife fighting
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Narnia II: Peter vs Caspain
By: Dutch Date: January 4, 2022, 7:43 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJ21MptqC0
This is terrible! They aren't aiming for each other, the only
non-basic technique is the disarm (which wouldn't work on a
really competent fighter), and Caspian clearly isn't actually
trying to pull the sword out of the tree. Peter's low block
isn't even in a reaction to a strike, and the distance is
terrible.
The only things I like are the snappiness of the first few
motions and the extensive use of improvision.
Rating: 3.5/10
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Duncan Idaho fights Sardaukar troopers (Dune 2021)
By: Dutch Date: March 12, 2022, 1:39 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDOgos9PkPs
This is another amazing fight from Dune. While some of the
movements are exaggerated, and the Sardaukar seem to lack an
understanding of distance, it's fast, smooth, and uses a lot of
realistic technique.
Problems:
[list]
[li]Some of the Sardaukar are telegraphing their strikes. That
means they let Duncan know, through their body motions, what
they will do next.[/li]
[li]A couple times when Duncan slashes, his sword appears to be
going too fast to penetrate a shield. Yes, it's a slash, which
means that the pulling motion is what's gonna be important, but
it's still a little quick.[/li]
[li]When Idaho hits one of the guys with an upward strike, that
Sardaukar just falls back, recovers and hits Duncan's shield,
and then comes around with a wide strike, leaving his torso open
for a strike by Duncan.[/li]
[/list]
Things I really enjoy in this fight include the
distance-management by Duncan, the flanking attacks by the
Sardaukar, and the brief moments of grappling.
And, of course, the fact that when a Sardaukar makes a mistake,
Duncan exploits it. That sums up so much of martial arts, and
really set this fight apart from, say, Star Wars.
One more thing: I love that after Duncan gets stabbed, he slows
down a lot, because he's now tired and bleeding heavily. Then
the Sardaukar don't just send a guy to try to kill him while
they cut through the door, but instead tactically surround him
and hack him apart.
Rating: 7.5/10—Duncan is very skilled but uses exaggerated
motions and doesn't guard his area perfectly, and the Sardaukar
seem very efficient except in distance management.
#Post#: 547--------------------------------------------------
Alatriste vs Malatesta
By: Dutch Date: July 17, 2022, 11:01 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDS09DDpY14
I know little of rapier, but Anders Linnard, a HEMA instructor
and Swordfish champion, says
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/>of this scene:
"It’s a great film and has some quite good fencing, displaying
the use of rapier and dagger, scrapping, kicking, disarms, as
well as the use of a cape. However, it still suffers from some
typical movie errors now and then, which a fencer will spot
immediately. Examples include pulling back the hand before
thrusting and parrying wildly in what is intended to look like
intense and close to panicking moves, but given how timed they
are, they just look choreographed."
#Post#: 552--------------------------------------------------
Katana duel
By: Dutch Date: November 16, 2022, 5:42 pm
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This is a very good fight. There's a double-hit and a spin, but
everything flows nicely and, at least in this part, nothing is
ridiculous. Even the spin is used aggressively, and it's great
to see this much thought put into a fight scene.
7/10
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John Wick Chapter 4 teaser trailer
By: Dutch Date: November 29, 2022, 2:14 pm
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HTML https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-29-2022/0KJkMu.gif
There isn't much to analyze here, but I'd give this about a
6/10. It's flashy and a bit exaggerated, and the distance looks
weird, but they're clearly very fast and fluid.
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