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20 week Insulin HGH IGF Blast
DIR By: Road2HardCoreIron
Date: March 11, 2022, 4:51 pm
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The 20 Week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin Blast
July 23, 2014 by John Doe
insulin and syringe
What I want to talk about in this post is a 20 week plan to
build some new muscle.
This is for the guy who has cycled steroids numerous times, has
been in the gym for several years, and is not what I’d consider
“new to the game”.
This is for an experienced bodybuilder who wants to take his
level of development to the next level.
[Disclaimer: John Doe Bodybuilding is not advising anyone use
ANY illegal or possibly dangerous hormones or substances under
any circumstances UNLESS it is under a doctor’s strict
supervision.]
The first thing you need to understand is that this shit gets
expensive, and if you can find a cost effective way to grow then
by all means do it!
One of the more cost effective ways I’ve found was to run IGF-1
with HGH. It allows you to keep your HGH a little lower and
still gives you a nice bang, and it’s faster than just HGH
alone. I also find that I don’t get the extreme side effects
from going higher on the HGH, I can stay right at 2 iu’s a day
of HGH and feel good, and run the IGF-1 at 80 mcg on the days I
lift.
The insulin gives the peptides a real 1-2 punch, and you will be
using that 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4
weeks on. Unless you’re like me and you’re diabetic, then you
just stay on insulin, LOL. The HGH will be ran at 2 iu’s/day, 5
days on and 2 days off. The IGF-1 will be used 4 weeks on, 4
off, 4 weeks on, 4 off, and last 4 weeks on again.
So what you will need for this 20 week cycle is 2 kits of HGH, 3
vials of IGF-1, and some fast acting insulin such as Humalog or
Nolvalog. If you don’t have access to Humalog or Nolvalog then
Humulin-R is fine, and Humulin-R can be purchased over the
counter without a prescription in most places. You DON’T NEED
INSULIN for this, as just HGH and IGF-1 will also work
exceptionally well.
As for steroids, I would just stick with a couple basic
compounds in moderate dosages. Something along the lines of
test/deca OR test/EQ will be fine. You will run a 20 week cycle
of that along with your peptides.
I run my HGH 5 days on/2 days off, and I take my IGF-1 just on
training days. I take my insulin every day because I have to,
but you should only take it on training days if you’re not
insulin dependent like myself.
Now, pay close attention here. The way to really benefit from
insulin and achieve maximum volume in the muscles is to take
your insulin BEFORE you work out. Now you need to do this
EXACTLY the way I’m telling you here, no exceptions. You want to
take your insulin exactly 1 hour before you train. I would start
at 5 iu’s, and never go over 10 iu’s.
Protein and carb intake on insulin
After you take your insulin you need to consume around 40-60
grams of protein and 10 grams of carbs for every unit of insulin
you use. So if you shot 5 iu’s of insulin, then something like a
chicken breast or a protein shake along with a few packets of
instant oatmeal.
For my carbs I don’t go 100% sugar, but I try to have something
that is a little more sugar based, and instant oats is a perfect
meal choice for me. I find that the slower digested carbs mixed
in with the sugar helps keep me a little more stable as the
insulin peaks. Yes, sugar is initially what you want, but when
the insulin peaks you do want some slower digesting carbs as
well.
Insulin can actually peak twice after you take it. After you eat
your protein/carb meal you will start training 1 hour after.
Now, here is the key; during your training you want to be
sipping on something else with sugar in it. I will drink a
Gatorade during my lift, sipping it between sets. In a normal
setting 10 iu’s of sugar per unit of insulin is fine, but
training is actually going to create more of a caloric/glucose
deficit so consuming some sugars during your lift is crucial.
You are going to find that your pump in the gym is insane, mush
more intense than normal. My arms feel like they are going to
burst when I do this and I pump up to a degree where my body
actually looks noticeably larger.
Your workout should be kept around an hour or so when doing this
protocol. After you train you will consume another meal
consisting of 40-60 grams of protein and another 60-80 grams of
carbs.
If you’re VERY EXPERIENCED like myself then a post workout shot
of insulin will work fine as well, but be cautious of insulin
“stacking.” Stacking is when you think you’re taking a certain
amount of insulin and it’s really more because the previous shot
of insulin is still kicking. So post workout if you take 10 iu’s
of insulin it may be more like 14 iu’s if that first shot prior
to the lift is still lowering your glucose.
Usually when I finish training I go eat at this place called
Chipotle Grill, and I get a chicken or steak bowl with rice,
corn, salsa, and lettuce. I get a lemonade to drink with it.
It’s a perfect combo of protein, carbs and sugars with little
fat.
You want to stay away from fat pre and post workout and just
consume protein and carbs. Fat is much more easily stored while
using insulin and I’m going to tell you why. When you take
insulin your blood sugar gets dramatically lower very fast.
Where do you think the sugar goes when it’s lowered through
insulin use? Exactly, what doesn’t get absorbed by the muscle
gets stored as fat. Fat will not get absorbed by your muscles,
so it will go directly to fat storage. I’d wait until the
insulin window is over with before consuming any fats, even
health fats.
Post workout is also when you want to shoot your IGF-1. IGF-1
should be measured out in a 1 ml insulin syringe and you want to
fill 2 of them. You will inject your IGF-1 into lagging muscle
groups that you want to bring up. It’s a good idea to inject
into muscles just trained also.
Units of Measurement
Now, there is something I want you to be very aware of here. The
units of measurement for IGF-1 and insulin are different than
that of HGH. With HGH you actually fill your pin to the numbers.
2 iu’s is going to be the 20 mark on the pin, 4 iu’s is the 40
mark, etc.
Now, with insulin and IGF-1, a unit is actually a “click” on the
pin, or a line. So if you filled your 1 ml insulin syringe to
the 20 like you would for 2 iu’s of HGH, you seriously fucked
up, and I hope you don’t die. Insulin can kill you quickly.
Make sure you know your shit before fucking around with it.
Research everything you can, and just know that it’s not worth
it unless you’re very educated and experienced. It doesn’t have
to be dangerous if you know your shit, but if you do it without
knowing anything you may go to sleep and never wake up again.
This also brings me to my next point; don’t use insulin at
night.
Do it so you know it’s clear from your system before you go to
sleep that evening. With Humalog or Nolvalog it’s about a 3 hour
window after you inject. With Humulin R- it’s going to be more
like a 5 hour window.
I would take my HGH in the morning at 2 iu’s. Anymore than 2
iu’s-4iu’s/day and I’d split the shots up and inject 2 or 3
times a day. Your body is only going to handle so much at one
time and I don’t think you’re getting the full advantage of
growth by taking an assload all at one time.
Now, for myself 2 iu’s of legit HGH/day does me fine. Especially
when using it along with IGF-1. I mainly want the anti aging and
fat burning properties from the HGH, IGF-1 should give me the
growing part of the equation.
But HGH is costly, I simply cannot commit to running higher
dosages, and the side effects get bad when you get higher with
it. I get very tired from it, and the numb hands gets old. It
will constantly make your hands fall asleep and it gets
annoying.
I’m pretty sure the issues of permanent carpal tunnel syndrome
is real when HGH is used too high for too long. Not to mention
the other side effects like acramology, foot growth, and
intestinal growth just don’t sound exciting to me. So for me
personally, I keep my HGH at 2 iu’s/day.
As for steroids, I don’t use much at all. I keep my testosterone
at 200mg/week and if I’m running deca or equipoise with it then
those are no more than 400mg/week most of the time. Actually,
300/week is my limit on deca, and eq is taken at 400mg/week. I
will use something a little more moderate to run for 20 weeks
alongside the peptides.
I wouldn’t be doing that with Winstrol or Trenbolone. Another
compound I may consider going 20 weeks on would be Masteron,
provided body fat was low enough to start with. Masteron is
pretty useless if you’re not in single digit body fat, but
Masteron is mild enough to use for 20 weeks. Now, I can go 20
weeks at a time because I’m on testosterone replacement, so fear
of shutdown is just not an issue with me. For a guy who still
cycles on/off, you may want to consider a bridge here.
This is how a 20 week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin blast would look with a
bridge:
Weeks 1-8: 200mg/week Test, 400mg/week EQ, (first 4 weeks with
IGF-1 and insulin, then 4 weeks off IGF-1 and insulin)
Weeks 9-12: 150mg/week Test only, 1250 iu HCG/wk times 4 weeks
(4 more weeks on IGF-1 and insulin)
Weeks 13-20: 200mg/week Test, 300mg/week Deca (4 weeks off IGF-1
and insulin, then last 4 weeks on again)
Weeks 21-24: 50mg/day Clomid, 10-20mg/day Nolvadex, 1250 iu/week
HCG for recovery.
So basically there you have it, the 20 week HGH/IGF-1/Insulin
blast. This is a little more advanced, but not everything I
write is for beginners.
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