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       Cardio or Weights First?
       By: Road2HardCoreIron Date: January 13, 2025, 4:03 pm
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       #Post#: 5857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cardio or Weights First?
       By: Genetic Freak Date: January 13, 2025, 6:06 pm
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       It is best to split them up into two separate sessions without
       at least one meal in between. However, if you must do them
       together, because of your schedule then resistance training
       first and cardio second.
       #Post#: 5858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cardio or Weights First?
       By: jipped genes Date: January 14, 2025, 7:27 pm
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       I am totally backwards. I do cardio first. I have found i pull
       far fewer muscles when I do this. Also I do not care about mac
       lifts or growth.
       #Post#: 5859--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cardio or Weights First?
       By: Genetic Freak Date: January 15, 2025, 3:35 pm
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       [quote author=jipped genes link=topic=3570.msg5858#msg5858
       date=1736904437]
       I am totally backwards. I do cardio first. I have found i pull
       far fewer muscles when I do this. Also I do not care about mac
       lifts or growth.
       [/quote]
       For what you do, brother, it totally makes sense do cardio first
       for the exact reasons you mentioned. Your primary focus is
       endurance, mobility and functional strength. I was speaking more
       on muscle growth and fat loss.
       #Post#: 5861--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cardio or Weights First?
       By: jipped genes Date: January 15, 2025, 6:47 pm
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       [quote author=Genetic Freak link=topic=3570.msg5859#msg5859
       date=1736976914]
       [quote author=jipped genes link=topic=3570.msg5858#msg5858
       date=1736904437]
       I am totally backwards. I do cardio first. I have found i pull
       far fewer muscles when I do this. Also I do not care about mac
       lifts or growth.
       [/quote]
       For what you do, brother, it totally makes sense do cardio first
       for the exact reasons you mentioned. Your primary focus is
       endurance, mobility and functional strength. I was speaking more
       on muscle growth and fat loss.
       [/quote]
       I got ya brother, only day I go heavy , or heavy for me is leg
       day. Dense quads really do help deal with leg kicks. I really
       don't do much for upper body. Starting to have joint probs in
       the elbows. Deads and heavy rows HURT!
       #Post#: 5862--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cardio or Weights First?
       By: Genetic Freak Date: January 17, 2025, 5:58 am
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       [quote author=jipped genes link=topic=3570.msg5861#msg5861
       date=1736988471]
       [quote author=Genetic Freak link=topic=3570.msg5859#msg5859
       date=1736976914]
       [quote author=jipped genes link=topic=3570.msg5858#msg5858
       date=1736904437]
       I am totally backwards. I do cardio first. I have found i pull
       far fewer muscles when I do this. Also I do not care about mac
       lifts or growth.
       [/quote]
       For what you do, brother, it totally makes sense do cardio first
       for the exact reasons you mentioned. Your primary focus is
       endurance, mobility and functional strength. I was speaking more
       on muscle growth and fat loss.
       [/quote]
       I got ya brother, only day I go heavy , or heavy for me is leg
       day. Dense quads really do help deal with leg kicks. I really
       don't do much for upper body. Starting to have joint probs in
       the elbows. Deads and heavy rows HURT!
       [/quote]
       Then don't do them. Haha. Your elbows are already taking a
       beating from sparring, grappling, hitting the bag, fighting,
       etc... Don't beat them up more by going heavy with the barbell.
       Instead find ways to use dumbbells and make the movement more
       difficult.
       One of my favorites to replace the barbell row is the bent over
       double dumbbell row. I will use an adjustable bench and place it
       at an incline so that I can comfortably rest my forehead on it
       in a bent over position and row the dumbbells up. You are not
       using your head for support, only as a gauge. Once you get to
       the point you cannot row and keep your head from coming off the
       bench, you are done. You have reached the point of muscle
       failure. Being that you can also rotate the dumbbells into a
       neutral, 30 or 45 degree angle you can get a better ROM and do
       not have to go as heavy.
       #Post#: 5863--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cardio or Weights First?
       By: jipped genes Date: January 17, 2025, 7:46 am
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       [quote author=Genetic Freak link=topic=3570.msg5862#msg5862
       date=1737115098]
       [quote author=jipped genes link=topic=3570.msg5861#msg5861
       date=1736988471]
       [quote author=Genetic Freak link=topic=3570.msg5859#msg5859
       date=1736976914]
       [quote author=jipped genes link=topic=3570.msg5858#msg5858
       date=1736904437]
       I am totally backwards. I do cardio first. I have found i pull
       far fewer muscles when I do this. Also I do not care about mac
       lifts or growth.
       [/quote]
       For what you do, brother, it totally makes sense do cardio first
       for the exact reasons you mentioned. Your primary focus is
       endurance, mobility and functional strength. I was speaking more
       on muscle growth and fat loss.
       [/quote]
       I got ya brother, only day I go heavy , or heavy for me is leg
       day. Dense quads really do help deal with leg kicks. I really
       don't do much for upper body. Starting to have joint probs in
       the elbows. Deads and heavy rows HURT!
       [/quote]
       Then don't do them. Haha. Your elbows are already taking a
       beating from sparring, grappling, hitting the bag, fighting,
       etc... Don't beat them up more by going heavy with the barbell.
       Instead find ways to use dumbbells and make the movement more
       difficult.
       One of my favorites to replace the barbell row is the bent over
       double dumbbell row. I will use an adjustable bench and place it
       at an incline so that I can comfortably rest my forehead on it
       in a bent over position and row the dumbbells up. You are not
       using your head for support, only as a gauge. Once you get to
       the point you cannot row and keep your head from coming off the
       bench, you are done. You have reached the point of muscle
       failure. Being that you can also rotate the dumbbells into a
       neutral, 30 or 45 degree angle you can get a better ROM and do
       not have to go as heavy.
       [/quote]
       Great info, I will try. I still do pullups, chinups and  but
       just gripping the bar hurts my elbows. I will have to try the
       rows with light weights and see how it goes.
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