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       HGH GERNIC GARBAGE OR NOT
   DIR By: Road2HardCoreIron
       Date: February 25, 2023, 11:47 am
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       gains3000
       JoinedJun 3, 2019
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       Jan 7, 2021
       #1
       Wanted to hear your thoughts on this excerpt from a book on
       steroids. Long Post Below.
       The next thing you have to know about HGH is that if you are not
       using pharmaceutical grade growth hormone such as Genotropin,
       Norditropin, Saizen, Serostim etc. then you are wasting your
       money. The only effective growth hormone is human pharmaceutical
       grade growth hormone meant to be sold in a pharmacy. Everything
       else is bullshit. The reason Generic HGH cannot compare to
       pharmaceutical grade is that growth hormone is made through
       recombinant DNA technology where special Ecoli bacteria is
       genetically engineered and given strands of modified Virus
       derived DNA to produce human growth hormone. This process cannot
       be replicated by laymen. There are only a few facilities in the
       world capable of producing high quality 100% legitimate HGH, and
       these facilities are used exclusively for the production of
       human pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. Many people talk
       about ‘generic’ growth hormone and talk about blue tops, grey
       tops, black tops etc. All of that stuff is garbage and a far,
       far, far cry from the real thing. Now, you may have used some
       generic growth hormone that gave you some results or had friends
       you watched use generic HGH and they got pretty good results.
       That’s not impossible, I’ve experimented with generic HGH too.
       So, what is in those generic HGH bottles that gives some
       physique improving benefits? The answer is no one knows, it may
       be peptides, it may be a host of other things, generic human
       growth hormone is produced unregulated in china.
       You don’t only need access to the facilities to produce growth
       hormone properly,
       You also need access to highly specialized professional chemists
       to produce it. There are only a handful of facilities with the
       necessary Recombinant DNA technology equipment and the
       specialized highly trained chemists to produce true human growth
       hormone. These facilities are being used and staffed by big
       pharmaceutical companies that are selling their products for
       billions of dollars on the world stage, not by some Rat Prick
       drug dealer in India or China who produces steroids in his
       basement, or even at a professional underground production
       facility. The best way to describe the difference between using
       pharmaceutical grade growth hormone versus using generics is to
       compare having sex with a hot ass woman with and without a
       condom. If you have sex with the condom on, you just won’t be
       having anywhere near the same experience that the person who
       gets laid with her with no condom is experiencing.
       I’m telling you all this stuff and giving all these examples
       because I’m really trying to help you here. If you use generics
       you are playing the drug dealers’ game. They will always jump on
       people like me who tell you the truth. They do this to protect
       their market and financial interests in selling you cheap trash.
       They will say that I’m a liar, don’t know what I’m talking about
       etc. but the fact of the matter is that I have no incentive but
       to tell you the truth. I’m not biased, and I’m telling you the
       EXACT same thing that a guru who coaches top bodybuilders on the
       Olympia stage would tell his athletes. It’s really unfortunate
       and shameful that the bodybuilding and fitness industry and Pro
       Sports is run on lies and deception.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       Bumpygooch
       JoinedJul 1, 2020
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       Jan 7, 2021
       #2
       @gains3000 Dan the BB from Thailand?
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       gains3000
       JoinedJun 3, 2019
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       Jan 7, 2021
       #3
       @Bumpygooch Yup!
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       MiniFridge
       JoinedJun 11, 2018
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       Jan 7, 2021
       #4
       Part of me agrees, but I’ve heard Broderick Chavez mention that
       in the last few years China has been able to produce HGH that
       rivals the quality of pharma. Until I’m a millionaire I’m buying
       generics from The Provider.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       Bumpygooch
       JoinedJul 1, 2020
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       Jan 7, 2021
       #5
       So, I’m doing something of a comparison between the 2 over the
       next couple months. Had rotator cuff along with labrum repair
       surgery this past monday. Starting with 3iu/day Zomacton for a
       month, then 40 days of a generic from a source on another board,
       then 4O days of genotropin bought from TSG, then 40 days
       goodlyfe, then 40 days TSG blue tops. Is pretty much strictly
       for post op recovery, although I’ll be running it so long, I
       should be back in the gym by the end. I could provide some
       results here as I go along, if there’s any interest.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       fatliftingdude
       JoinedDec 13, 2020
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       Jan 8, 2021
       #6
       I haven’t gotten different results from using Pfizer vs generic
       black tops from Dragon. Only difference is my wallet isn’t
       crying if I go on Dragon’s stuff.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
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       jef9786
       JoinedDec 14, 2020
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       Jan 8, 2021
       #7
       @Bumpygooch I know it’s on a case per case basis, long term use,
       not magic, but if a generic is as good as pharma gh, I assume
       there’s not much difference in the fat burning capability of
       either? I ask Bc I hear some people on generics talk about
       excess water retention and bloat, now I know this is a common
       effect of gh, but is it any MORE with a generic??
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       DragonOrdnance
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       Jan 8, 2021
       #8
       This is a meme. GH doesn’t take a “multi millionaire dollar
       lab.”
       Perhaps a few years ago. Now any retard with a manufacturing
       candy license in China and 200k spare change can make good
       quality growth hormone.
       Whats in it? Growth hormone 191, obviously. The tests wouldn’t
       lie. I have no reason to shill here because I sell both pharma
       and generic hgh and I profit off both equally, so I have no
       problem saying this. But the truth of the matter is that at this
       point in time, growth hormone has catched up to pharma in ways I
       didn’t expect it to. Resulting in me even switching from my geno
       pens to my blacktops simply because of the testing results,
       consistently.
       The problem here isnt making good growth hormone. Its making it
       good CONSISTENTLY.
       And when we talk about the meme that “all the bbs do pharma”, in
       my experience, I’ve seen plenty pro cards do some generic,
       offbrand shit I’ve never even heard of. GH can be expensive.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
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       gains3000
       JoinedJun 3, 2019
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       Jan 8, 2021
       #9
       @DragonOrdnance Appreciate your insight Dragon! I did not post
       this to disrespect any source or manufacturer, I just wanted to
       hear people’s opinions. Thanks.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
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       hypeofbeauty1
       hypeofbeauty1
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       Jan 9, 2021
       #10
       Does anyone know of a good beginners guideline to GH out there
       on the web?
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       DragonOrdnance
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       Jan 9, 2021
       #11
       @hypeofbeauty1 Believe /r/steroids has a few good compound
       threads. Theres really no guidelines, just split your dosage or
       take it all one shot in the morning and don’t eat for a good
       hour or two. I like to take it pre-morning fasted cardio. 5 days
       on 2 days off , if needed to budget, or everyday. I’ve seen
       people get good results on igf levels with 5/2 so im sure you’re
       okay with that.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       SixFourLambda
       JoinedJan 2, 2021
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       Jan 10, 2021
       #12
       A lot of people, myself included, have taken generics and then
       gotten blood tests. If the generics are fake, then how did all
       that hgh get into my blood?
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
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       MikeAlstott
       JoinedFeb 22, 2018
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       Jan 10, 2021
       #13
       @DragonOrdnance How long before fasted cardio do you pin your GH
       or does it matter?
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       Bumpygooch
       JoinedJul 1, 2020
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       Jan 10, 2021
       #14
       @MikeAlstott anecdotally, I’ve read get it done within 3 hours
       of injection. Even if it’s not exactly accurate, seems like a
       decent timeline. I’ll take 3iu, take yohimbine with caffeine,
       drink my couple cups of coffee and jump on the bike within 2
       hours.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       MikeAlstott
       JoinedFeb 22, 2018
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       Jan 11, 2021
       #15
       @Bumpygooch Cool, thanks, that makes sense. Is there a
       recommended minimum time to wait after injection?
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       Flex_Luger
       JoinedMay 15, 2020
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       Jan 11, 2021
       #16
       I’ve read that it’s fine to eat anytime after, it’s just not
       “optimal” if your pinning and eating immediately after
       especially for fat loss. I try not to overcomplicate things, if
       I have to pin and eat I will, if I have time I’ll wait to eat.
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       DragonOrdnance
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       #17
       @MikeAlstott I just pin and go run after like 20 minutes
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       Goopatroopa
       JoinedMar 18, 2020
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       Mar 12, 2021
       #18
       @DragonOrdnance Do you offer any type of bulk discount rate for
       ordering the Turkish pharma HGH
       Last edited: Mar 17, 2022
       DragonOrdnance
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       Mar 13, 2021
       #19
       @Goopatroopa Depending on the quantity. email us and i’d be
       happy to help.
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