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       #Post#: 2717--------------------------------------------------
       Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: Addie
       Date: July 22, 2012, 5:36 pm
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       New movie. Talk.
       #Post#: 2718--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!!
   DIR By: Addie
       Date: July 22, 2012, 5:42 pm
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       Saw it yesterday and thought it was mediocre. I've read some of
       the comics and knew that Ra's had a daughter so I felt it was a
       pretty safe bet Miranda was going to be it. Lady next to me
       gasped though.
       I'm good with the ending, not so good with the fact that they're
       rebooting it in a couple of years. Ugh. Curse you Hollywood.
       #Post#: 2719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: CrazyBunnyLady
       Date: July 22, 2012, 5:48 pm
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       They left it open for a NightWing movie.
       Otherwise, it felt very fast and disjointed to me. Not enough
       batman awesomeness to me. Bane was a great character and I
       really liked CatWoman. At the same time, CatWoman was a
       complicated woman and we didn't get a good enough look into that
       The "twist" at the end was very predictable.
       #Post#: 2720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: Addie
       Date: July 22, 2012, 5:57 pm
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       But since not a lot of people know about the Robin -> Nightwing
       thing, I don't see that happening. I'm guessing that unless
       something goes wrong and JGL pulls out, he's gonna be Batman in
       the next movie.
       All of it was predictable. I give Nolan points for continuity
       with the al Ghuls since a lot of writers lose the plot between
       films, but that's about it. The second Alfred told his Venice
       story, it was obvious that was going to be the ending.
       #Post#: 2721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: CrazyBunnyLady
       Date: July 22, 2012, 6:05 pm
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       How did you feel about the sequencing? It felt like it jumped
       around a lot and lacked emotion.
       #Post#: 2722--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: Addie
       Date: July 22, 2012, 6:20 pm
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       I agree. My problem with all the movies was that I prefer my
       Batman more campy, Adam West style, so the new dark and gritty
       one left me cold. But the previous ones were much more cohesive
       than this one.
       Not enough Batman to make me care about his fate. I' been
       rooting for him to die, preferably from a fall in the prison to
       make it less predictable. Nolan tried to bite a bit too much and
       failed to chew, even in almost 3 hours of movie. I still have no
       idea why that guy wanted his fingerprints, why Catwoman sold him
       to Bane (other than she owed him. Why?), where they got the
       money to go live in Italy or why the hell other than for ease of
       plot were Robin and Gordon the only competent cops. Or how Robin
       knew about the cave, while I'm thinking about it. I remember
       thinking there were a lot of moments were people jumped from
       place to place in less time than batmanly possible, but I can't
       name you one now.
       #Post#: 2723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: CrazyBunnyLady
       Date: July 22, 2012, 6:33 pm
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       I hated that he still used the voice with people who knew he was
       Bruce wayne. What was the point of that??
       I also hate the "I'm not going to kill you right away, I'm going
       to keep you alive to suffer even though you're my greatest
       adversary" thing.
       #Post#: 2724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: Addie
       Date: July 22, 2012, 6:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: CrazyBunnyLady link ---
       >
       > I hated that he still used the voice with people who knew he
       was Bruce wayne. What was the point of that??
       >
       > I also hate the "I'm not going to kill you right away, I'm
       going to keep you alive to suffer even though you're my greatest
       adversary" thing.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Because otherwise there would be no more Batman? I've got
       nothing.
       #Post#: 2754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nanananananananana Batman!!! (SPOILERS)
   DIR By: Nerdling
       Date: July 30, 2012, 6:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: Addie link ---
       >
       > I agree. My problem with all the movies was that I prefer my
       Batman more campy, Adam West style, so the new dark and gritty
       one left me cold. But the previous ones were much more cohesive
       than this one.
       >
       > Not enough Batman to make me care about his fate. I' been
       rooting for him to die, preferably from a fall in the prison to
       make it less predictable. Nolan tried to bite a bit too much and
       failed to chew, even in almost 3 hours of movie. I still have no
       idea why that guy wanted his fingerprints, why Catwoman sold him
       to Bane (other than she owed him. Why?), where they got the
       money to go live in Italy or why the hell other than for ease of
       plot were Robin and Gordon the only competent cops. Or how Robin
       knew about the cave, while I'm thinking about it. I remember
       thinking there were a lot of moments were people jumped from
       place to place in less time than batmanly possible, but I can't
       name you one now.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We finally got around to seeing it this weekend.
       I do think it would have been better if they'd just killed
       Batman off at the end to leave his place for JGL to take over
       either as Nightwing or as the next Batman -- I think the latter
       is kind of what they were going for with all of the "Batman
       could be anyone" talk.  The guy wanted his fingerprints to make
       the fraudulent stock market trades that bankrupted Wayne (they
       apparently had to be verified by fingerprint); Daggett was on
       the Wayne board and wanted to absorb Wayne Enterprises into his
       own company and could only do that by forcing Wayne off the
       board.  Bane just used that greed to set up everything else he
       was doing.
       I think Catwoman sold him out because she couldn't think of
       another way to keep Bane from hunting her down and killing her?
       I thought it was pretty lame; she seemed smarter than that.  I
       have no idea how they funded their life in Italy or why none of
       the other cops were worth a damn.  I think they made Foley an
       idiot and a coward to set up his redemption by coming out to
       lead the cops in the big fight at the end, since that kind of
       seemed to be a theme for the movie, but it was a poor use of
       Matthew Modine, in my opinion, and a parody of the obsessive
       cop.
       As far as I can tell, Robin got the directions to the Batcave
       from the bag that Bruce left him in his will.  I have no idea
       when he wrote that into his will, though, since it didn't seem
       to have been changed for a long time.
       And how the hell did he get out of the prison and all the way
       back to Gotham while broke in record time?  For that matter, how
       did they get him to it?  It seemed remote as all get-out.
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