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       #Post#: 83--------------------------------------------------
       Instructor pay rate
       By: hjesse Date: September 12, 2009, 1:04 pm
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       Do we need to meet before Thursday or can it be the primary
       topic of discussion at our meeting on Thursday before club?
       I still feel sort of strange discussing this since I am one of
       the people being paid. If you all want to meet at 7:30 I can get
       there around 8 and skip this conversation (and if that's the
       case, Laura should also). It's up to all of you.
       I proposed $10/week but I think at the end of last quarter I had
       suggested $10/hr for the main instructor (usually me) and $5/hr
       for the assisting instructor (Colin or Laura). I'm not sure if
       we can afford this or not.
       Since I am the one running the lesson and providing the material
       I do quite a bit more work than whoever is assisting me that
       week. This is another topic I feel should be discussed without
       the teachers there.
       If we need all of that money to go to Colin at first that's
       fine. Or we could pay instructors by cash that we keep from
       dues. This is probably something Steve and Dan should figure
       out... maybe discuss it with Jeff and/or Mike D. too.
       #Post#: 87--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: CherrySteve Date: September 13, 2009, 6:36 pm
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       Well as the new Treasurer, I will have to find out more
       information before we can make a good decision.  Unfortunately,
       using estimated values, it seems like we will not be able to
       afford this.
       Here is the break down:
       At $30/week for 30 weeks that's $900.
       If we are only charging $50/year for dues given 35 members
       that's only $1750.
       So paying instructors is about half of this income.
       At best, with 50 members paying $60/year, that is still only
       $3000.
       This may seems like a lot, but after T-shirts, the club trip,
       hiring a band for a social dance or whatever, it seems like we
       may not be able to afford it.
       However, if we find a fund raiser, we may be able to afford it.
       Also, regardless of paying the instructors, it would be a good
       idea to do fund raising!  The more money we can get the more
       cool stuff we can do!
       So we should set aside the paying instructors issue until I can
       figure out what we can afford and in the mean time focus our
       efforts on fund raising ideas.
       Regards,
       Cherry
       #Post#: 88--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: dannyson Date: September 13, 2009, 9:41 pm
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       I agree with Jesse that we might be better off discussing the
       topic without her and Laura. I am trying to get the eboard,
       excluding Laura and Jesse, to meet before thursday (if possible)
       so we can have an answer by thursday.
       Worst case we will need to devote some time on thursday. We
       should wait till everybody arrives and discuss other points of
       interest first, then we can simply ask Jesse and Laura to step
       away until we've reached a decision.
       For Colin I believe we can get him into the gym for free
       (without paying the $5) if we get him registered as an outside
       instructor with the SLC office. And maybe we can even convince
       RIT to pay him through their budget.
       #Post#: 91--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: hjesse Date: September 13, 2009, 10:23 pm
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       What about a lower rate of $20/week toward instruction?
       Obviously I'm not teaching solely for pay, most of it is to
       continue the RIT swing club, pass on swing dancing, and improve
       our scene in Rochester. I'm just asking for a little bit of help
       to pay for gas, time, and services.
       It'd be great if we could get Colin paid for by RIT and not out
       of the club money, not sure if that's possible.
       Ask Dumont about how to get more money. I know that the money
       for the club trip came from many sources and only some of it was
       from club funds.
       Fundraiser = yes! We will certainly charge for our live band
       dance, but that might just make enough to pay for the band.
       #Post#: 105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: CherrySteve Date: September 14, 2009, 2:51 pm
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       Ok, here is the latest news about instructor payment:
       - According to the club budget assistant at SG we are allowed to
       pay the instructors as far as she knows.  There is some paper
       work involved, but it is legal to the best of our knowledge.  I
       can double check with someone else, but I think Carol knows well
       enough.  It is our money and we should be allowed to do pretty
       much whatever we want with it except for purchasing certain
       things.
       - However, the next problem becomes what we can afford.  If we
       come up with some good fund raisers, I don't have any problem
       paying the instructors because when you are instructing, it's
       work and that's fair.  As of right now we are not in very good
       financail standing.
       So work on coming up with fund raising ideas and I sent out an
       email about the Interactive Learning Grant that was posted.
       #Post#: 106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: hjesse Date: September 14, 2009, 10:56 pm
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       Do you know how much we have in our bank account?
       I have some cash to give you.
       We can hold off on paying instructors until the end of the month
       and re-evaluate what we can afford then.
       #Post#: 115--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: LauraSlotkoff Date: September 16, 2009, 3:26 pm
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       Hey guys,
       according Ryan Giglia in charge of club advising:
       "We make it a general rule that we do not pay leaders of clubs.
       I do not know of a time that we ever did this unless it was a
       reimbursement for an expense.  We also do not pay any coach or
       instructor unless it is for a one time training specific to the
       club discipline."
       I've also heard of clubs being banned for this, which is why I
       was concerned.
       As for fundraising, perhaps I could set up a little "prom style"
       photo booth at a few local dances with proceeds going to club?
       Just an idea.
       - Laura
       #Post#: 119--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Instructor pay rate
       By: CherrySteve Date: September 16, 2009, 9:27 pm
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       I will set up an appointment with Ryan to try and work out the
       details on that.  I spoke with Carol Giuliano who said it should
       be fine, but I will check with with Ryan to be sure.
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