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Multiple Symbiotic Relationships Among Unrelated Species
By: AGelbert Date: November 30, 2013, 12:18 am
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magical forest
[move]Flying squirrels, Fungi, trees, Salmon, Bears, Bacteria,
Insects, grasses, Lynxes, Snow hares and a caterpillar that
kills conifers (resulting in deep forest clearings) all weave a
complex, multiple, cascading symbiotic relationship the
scientists are now calling the WOOD WIDE
WEB.
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Multiple, cascading symbiotic relationships produce a complex
web of vital and non-optional events that perpetuate multiple
species totally unrelated genetically to each other. The
narrator admits that the exquisite timing makes it all appear
"coreographed". And I KNOW Who that Coreographer is! ;)
Watch this video and see for yourself the folly of the straw
grasping evolutionist random universe true believers when they
claim all this happened by "co-evolution". Even expert
mathematicians running probaility and statistics for self
assembling amino acids into all the proteins needed for life in
a SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM, a MUCH simpler arrangement than the
WOOD WIDE WEB, have stated that there hasn't been enough time
if the universe is 14 billion years old or so. They claim single
celled life is IMPOSSIBLE by random chance mutations in that
time frame; never mind the incredibly complex biosphere. :o
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have to live with it and die with it too!
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Re: Multiple Symbiotic Relationships Among Unrelated Species
By: AGelbert Date: December 22, 2013, 3:10 pm
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Agelbert said,
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Buzzard said, [quote]Yes Agelbert, Will Allen's story is
inspiring. Unfortunately it also dredges up a bit of guilt that
I'm so lazy. I have fought severe laziness all my life. The only
way that I could seem to combat this curse was to try to work
harder than those people around me. As I age it becomes more
difficult to do so. It frustrates and angers me at times. Other
times I just try to accept that by most people's standards
seventy is getting old. So why worry?
What I didn't mention in my story about the gulley is the
continuing back and forth about the ethics of what I'm doing.
Looked at one way it would seem laudable that I would get
involved in the restoration of a formerly "pristine" area of
nature. On the other hand, in order to clean up the dump with
various pieces of refuse which I know will not degrade before
the sun goes nova I am taming a wild spot which should probably
be left alone. You know, the old, "In order to save the village
we had to destroy it." All I can do is go with my gut on this
one. Besides, the therapy is great.[/quote]
Buzzard,
I'm with you on the therapy value. And I think, since you are an
asset to our species, that you need no more justification than
that.
I respect your concern for the environment, but keep in mind
that the stuff we individual humans will do one way or the other
is insignificant compared to the stuff our giant machines and
factories mostly NOT owned by most humans do. The ethical
positions of a person should only translate to guilt if their
activities foster more pollution and more toxic
industrialization. Yours don't; yours make the world a better
place. Clearing a bit of land is not the same as massive
deforestation for industrial purposes.
I recently learned from NASA that the our planet gets an average
of 40 lightning strikes a second 24/7. Rapid oxidation of plant
life and forest clearing is part of our biosphere natural
fertilizer creating processes (nitrates from lightning as well
as burning).
I have a cool video on my forum showing how a Canadian Lynx
requires a pine beetle that kills (and ends up clearing) forest
areas to survive. The forest clearings provide snow hare hunting
areas.
Sure, we have ****ed up the balance INDUSTRIALLY. But
individually, most of us have, like you, actually made the world
greener and safer for all earthlings. Remember it is that
powerful minority controlling mega polluting industries that
have caused most of the damage. Don't accept a guilt trip about
human biomass damage to the planet.
I too am pushing 70, can no longer run and was sore for a WEEK
after replacing the heat tape over the pex water pipe in my
crawl space a couple of years ago. It wasn't hard work, just
tedious. I was in one of those 3M paper coveralls, goggles and a
filter to protect myself from the fiberglass insulation wrap. I
ain't gettin' any younger, that's for sure.
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Here's that video if you want a pleasant diversion. ONLY nature
knows how to do creative destruction properly. I think you are
following the biosphere's rules in that gully. Thank you for
doing it! :emthup: :icon_sunny:
Multiple, cascading symbiotic relationships produce a complex
web of vital and non-optional events that perpetuate multiple
species totally unrelated genetically to each other.
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