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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: February 8, 2018, 11:20 am
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[center]Compound Could Transform Energy Storage ⚡ for
Large Grids[/center]
February 7, 2018
By Bob Marcotte
energy storage
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Ellen Matson, left, assistant professor of chemistry, and PhD
student Lauren VanGelder at work in Matson's lab. VanGelder is
lead author on a paper describing modifications to a redox flow
battery that make it nearly twice as effective for
electrochemical energy storage. Credit: University of Rochester
| Matson Lab
In order to power entire communities with clean energy, such as
solar and wind power, a reliable backup storage system is needed
to provide energy when the sun isn’t shining and the wind
doesn’t blow.
One possibility is to use any excess solar- and wind-based
energy to charge solutions of chemicals that can subsequently be
stored for use when sunshine and wind are scarce. At that time,
the chemical solutions of opposite charge can be pumped across
solid electrodes, thus creating an electron exchange that
provides power to the electrical grid.
The key to this technology, called a redox flow battery ⚡,
is finding chemicals that can not only “carry” sufficient
charge, but also be stored without degrading for long periods,
thereby maximizing power generation and minimizing the costs of
replenishing the system.
University of Rochester researchers, working with colleagues at
the University at Buffalo, believe they have found a promising
compound that could transform the energy storage landscape.
In a paper published in Chemical Science, an open access journal
of the Royal Society of Chemistry, researchers in the lab of
Ellen Matson, assistant professor of chemistry, describe
modifying a metal-oxide cluster, which has promising
electroactive properties, so that it is nearly twice as
effective as the unmodified cluster for electrochemical energy
storage in a redox flow battery.
“Energy storage applications with polyoxometalates are pretty
rare in the literature,” says lead author Lauren VanGelder, a
third-year PhD student in Matson’s lab. “There are maybe one or
two examples prior to ours, and they didn’t really maximize the
potential of these systems.”
“This is really an untapped area of molecular development
💫,” adds Matson.
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A redox flow battery ⚡ uses excess solar- and wind-based
energy to charge solutions of chemicals that can subsequently be
stored for use when sunshine and wind are scarce. At that time,
the chemical solutions of opposite charge can be pumped across
solid electrodes, thus creating an electron exchange that
provides power to the electrical grid. Credit: University of
Rochester | Michael Osadciw
The cluster was first developed in the lab of German chemist
Johann Spandl, and studied for its magnetic properties. Tests
conducted by VanGelder showed that the compound could store
charge in a redox flow battery, “but was not as stable as we had
hoped.”
However, by making what Matson describes as “a simple molecular
modification”— replacing the compound’s methanol-derived
methoxide groups with ethanol-based ethoxide ligands—the team
was able to expand the potential window during which the cluster
was stable, doubling the amount of electrical energy that could
be stored in the battery.
Says Matson: “What’s really cool about this work is the way we
can generate the ethoxide and methoxide clusters by using
methanol and ethanol. Both of these reagents are inexpensive,
readily available and safe to use. The metal and oxygen atoms
that compose the remainder of the cluster are earth-abundant
elements. The straightforward, efficient synthesis of this
system is a totally new direction in charge-carrier development
that, we believe, will set a new standard in the field.”
The electrochemical testing required for this study involved
equipment and techniques not previously used in the Matson lab.
Hence the collaboration with Timothy Cook, assistant professor
of chemistry at the University of Buffalo, and Anjula
Kosswattaarachchi, a fourth-year graduate student in the Cook
lab. VanGelder visited the Cook lab for training on testing
equipment, and in turn helped Kosswattaarachchi with
synthesizing compounds.
The two groups have applied for a National Science Foundation
grant as part of an ongoing collaboration to further refine the
clusters for use in commercial redox flow batteries.
Matson stressed the “crucial role” played by VanGelder, who
conducted the initial testing and experiments on the clusters
while Matson was on maternity leave. “As a third-year graduate
student, she did an incredible job of starting this project.
She’s played an important role in driving this research effort
in the lab,” Matson says.
A University Furth Fund Award that Matson received last year
enabled the lab to purchase electrochemical equipment needed for
the study. Patrick Forrestal ’19 of the Matson lab also
contributed to the study.
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: February 21, 2018, 5:58 pm
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February 19, 2018
By Chris Martin, Bloomberg
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: February 22, 2018, 1:31 pm
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 9, 2018, 7:43 pm
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[center]The Battery ⚡ Will Kill Fossil Fuels🦕
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By Mark Chediak from Hyperdrive
March 8, 2018, 7:00 AM EST Updated on March 8, 2018, 11:16 AM
EST
SNIPPET:
Three weeks ago, a U.S. agency ⁉️ sent the clearest
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 9, 2018, 9:37 pm
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date=1520650589]
[quote]“‘We’re reaching an inflection point,” said Steve Westly,
founder of sustainability venture-capital firm Westly Group and
former controller and chief fiscal officer for the state of
California. “In the future, people will talk about energy in
terms of kilowatts per hour instead of oil per barrels.”[/quote]
"Kilowatts per hour" and "oil per barrels"??? - please explain.
[/quote]
Ask Steve Westly. I didn't write article but I have an idea
🤔 of what he is referring too. The unit of measure the
Oil Corporations moved into general parlance was the "Barrel"
(about 55 gallons of whatever) instead of just using a term
relating to a gallon. The whole sneaky idea was to make everyone
equate "Energy" with "Oil", as if one can only "really" get
energy from a barrel of YOU KNOW WHAT [img
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You know the fossil fuelers LOVE to say the USA NEEDS umpteen
million Barrels of Oil per day or week or month or year or
whatever. That is OUT THE WINDOW when your source of energy is
renewable AND stored in a massive utility corporation battery
bank.
I know you think that isn't going to happen any time soon. Good
luck with that. ::)
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 10, 2018, 2:02 pm
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date=1520655496]
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date=1520651879]
[quote author=Palloy2 link=topic=559.msg149258#msg149258
date=1520650589]
[quote]“‘We’re reaching an inflection point,” said Steve Westly,
founder of sustainability venture-capital firm Westly Group and
former controller and chief fiscal officer for the state of
California. “In the future, people will talk about energy in
terms of kilowatts per hour instead of oil per barrels.”[/quote]
"Kilowatts per hour" and "oil per barrels"??? - please explain.
[/quote]
Ask Steve Westly. I didn't write article but I have an idea
[size=24pt]🤔 of what he is referring too. The unit of
measure the Oil Corporations moved into general parlance was the
"Barrel" (about 55 gallons of whatever) instead of just using a
term relating to a gallon. The whole sneaky idea was to make
everyone equate "Energy" with "Oil", as if one can only "really"
get energy from a barrel of YOU KNOW WHAT :evil4:.
You know the fossil fuelers LOVE to say the USA NEEDS umpteen
million Barrels of Oil per day or week or month or year or
whatever. That is OUT THE WINDOW when your source of energy is
renewable AND stored in a massive utility corporation battery
bank.
I know you think that isn't going to happen any time soon. Good
luck with that. ::)[/size]
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I think I have an idea of what he was refering to, too:
"kilowatts per hour" is an error. He meant "kilowatt.hours"
which actually has the units of energy .
"oil per barrels" is another error. He meant "barrels of oil",
which actually has the units of energy.
I suppose Steve Westly, founder of sustainability
venture-capital firm Westly Group and former controller and
chief fiscal officer for the state of California, could have got
it right and been misquoted by the journalist, Mark Chediak.
But you would think Bloomberg would have done a better job of
checking the story than that. Also, 45% turns into "more than
half".
It's all spin anyway, not to worry.
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::) Hey Einstein, the guy was NOT goiing into energy math
thermodynamics nomenclature! He was talking about public
perceptions of energy that would soon go the way of the dodo
bird!
But, of course, I knew you would try to spin it as an "error"
with your typical hair splitting deliberate intransigence,
disguised as providing some pedantic (and defamatory as well as
boring) bit of enlightenment. Get a life, Palloy. Oil is NOT
"it". Please refrain from defamatory remarks about Bloomberg,
it's journalists, or Steve Westly, Such unwarranted spurious
remarks only further undermine your already tarnished
credibility.
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Here's a Scientist Mathematician that people who actually
understand bisophere math, the Nature Conservancy, respect. As a
mathematician, you could learn much from a serious study of the
program he developed called "Marxan" to help in the conservation
of the biodiversity in our biosphere.
The Nature Conservancy 🦋
March 10, 2018
[font=times new roman][color=navy]Meet Our Chief
Scientist[/color][/font] 👨‍🔬
For The Nature Conservancy’s chief scientist, Dr. Hugh
Possingham, a gift in his youth helped guide his path in the
field of conservation. Learn what inspires him and share in his
reflections on the Conservancy’s successes around the globe.
You grew up in South Australia. How did your childhood
experiences shape your career?
As a child, my father and I would explore the bush around
Adelaide. He was a keen birder, and when I was 12 he gave me the
book “Competition and the Structure of Bird Communities,”
written by Martin Cody, which showed me that mathematics was
useful—even in ecology. This realization led to my pursuit of
applied math at university.
You used mathematics to develop Marxan, the world’s most widely
used conservation planning tool. Is that how you got involved
with the Conservancy?
I developed a lot of relationships with Conservancy colleagues
through Marxan’s application to their work, so I was very
familiar with our science-based, collaborative approach and
clear focus to save as much of our planet’s biodiversity as
possible. It is somewhat unusual for someone like myself to
leave the academic world, and I don’t think I would have
accepted a position with any other conservation organization.
Which types of conservation strategies do you find most
encouraging?
Much of our core work is focused on reducing habitat loss and
degradation, which is essential for halting climate change and
saving biodiversity. For example, with a quarter of the world’s
greenhouse gas emissions caused by forest loss, there is great
potential in sustainable forestry initiatives. Projects like
these are especially promising because they are good for the
economy, good for nature and good for mitigating climate change.
Can you give some examples of how the Conservancy tackles big
conservation challenges?
We look at how to generate renewable power while improving
wildlife habitat; how to use habitat restoration in cities to
provide cleaner water; how to lessen the impacts of climate
change by restoring natural infrastructure, like coral reefs.
Why is the Conservancy so effective?
Our organization is unique because we are global problem
solvers, and we are exceptionally inclusive and collaborative in
our work. We recognize that people have basic needs—food,
energy, clean water, sanitation—hence calling a halt to
development isn’t an option. So we align with many
stakeholders—from governments and corporations to farmers and
indigenous communities—and we work with them to find solutions
that meet human needs and improve biodiversity
The Nature Conservancy
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 10, 2018, 11:06 pm
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Bloomberg/Westly was trying to explain something to the public,
and got it horribly garbled. You posted it as something good.
They deserve my criticism. At least you (hopefully) won't go
around saying “In the future, people will talk about energy in
terms of kilowatts per hour instead of oil per barrels.”
You don't believe in Peak Oil, I do. That's called a
disagreement. It doesn't give you the right to disparage me
without pointing out the errors in Peak Oil, which you have
never done and cannot do because it is real. The only person
that is weakened by this error is YOU.
Conservancy is not effective, it is being steam-rollered into
the ground by big business, as shown by your "biodiversity
problems still outstanding" image. "calling a halt to
development isn’t an option." is where they go wrong, and when
dealing with "governments and corporations to farmers and
indigenous communities" with that attitude, they will always
lose.
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"Horribly garbled"? My, what ridiculous hyperbole. I understood
what he was saying just fine, thank you. YOU were the one
claiming a news item for the public should follow thermodynamic
energy measurement rigor. That's really grasping at straws,
Palloy. 👎 Stop with the Kwh thing. Anybody knows what
that is all about. It just bends you out of shape to read any
article that says oil is going to be replaced by renewably
sourced energy from batteries, so you start a hair splitting
hyperbole campaign. Same on you!
And BY THE WAY, you CAN use up X number of Kilowatts in a given
second, minute or hour, AS YOU KNOW, but the Kwh measure is what
they use to bill you for the electricity, so stop playing silly
games with nomenclature!
And now you are attacking The Nature Conservancy and their Chief
Scientist mathematician too?
You just canot take correction gracefully, can you?
And as to Peak Oil, I HAVE pointed out the MANY errors in peak
oil, over and over. You just keep ignoring them! HERE are some
of the most recent examples:
[quote]by Marianna Parraga (Reuters) – Mexico’s state-run Pemex
[PEMX.UL] might bring partners into two heavy crude oilfields in
the Gulf’s shallow waters, the company’s chief said on Tuesday,
move that could help ease a lack of heavy barrels in the
Atlantic basin.
After nine bidding rounds in just three years and a presidential
election scheduled in July, Mexico’s oil regulator has started a
campaign to convince Pemex and foreign investors that this is
the moment to develop much needed extra-heavy oil reserves.
[size=12pt]“We are looking to increase production, including
heavy crude, so we might put on the table some farmouts mainly
for those fields that need secondary recovery strategies,”
Pemex’s CEO Carlos Trevino said during a news conference during
the CERAWeek energy conference in Houston.[/size][/quote]
[quote]Dominican Republic to Join Caribbean Energy 🦖
Exploration Rush
By Bloomberg on Mar 06, 2018 04:11 pm[/quote]
[quote]BY JOHN BOWDEN - 03/06/18 08:42 AM EST
Trump touts report US is set to become world’s top oil producer
President Trump on Tuesday celebrated a report from the
International Energy Agency which claims the U.S. will become
the world's leading oil producer by 2023.[/quote]
AND HERE is the article that SHOULD have put to rest in your
mind any idea that peak oil will save us from Catastrophic
Climate Change:
[center]"Peak Oil will save us from Climate Change:" a meme that
never went viral[/center]
By Ugo Bardi
Thursday, October 8, 2015
The idea that peak oil will save us from climate change has been
occasionally popping up in the debate, but it never really
gained traction for a number of good reasons. One is that, in
many cases, the proponents were also climate science deniers and
that made them scarcely credible. Indeed, if climate change does
not exist (or if it is not caused by human activities), then how
is it that you are telling us that peak oil will save us from
it? Add to this that many hard line climate science deniers are
also peak oil deniers (since, as well known, both concepts are
part of the great conspiracy), then, it is no surprise that the
meme of "peak oil will save us" never went viral.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't ask the question of whether
we have sufficient amounts of fossil fuel to generate a truly
disastrous climate change. The debate on this point goes back to
the early 2000s. At the beginning, the data were uncertain and
it was correctly noted that some of the IPCC scenarios
overestimated what we are likely to burn in the future. But, by
now, I think the fog has cleared. It is becoming increasingly
clear that fossil fuel depletion is not enough, by far, to save
us from climate change.
Nevertheless, some people still cling to the old "peak oil will
save us" meme. In a recent post on "Energy Matters", Roger
Andrews
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Now, that sounds reassuring and surely many people would
understand it in the sense that we shouldn't worry at all about
burning oil and gas. Unfortunately, that's just not true and
Andrews' statement is both overoptimistic and misleading.
One problem is that the "2 degrees limit" is a last ditch
attempt to limit the damage created by climate change, but there
is no certainty that staying beyond it will be enough to prevent
disaster.
Then, there is a problem with Andrew's use of the term
"reserves," to be understood as "proven reserves". Proven
reserves include only those resources that are known to exist
and to be extractable at present; and that's surely much less
than all what could be extracted in the future. The parameter
that takes into account also probably existing resources is
called "Ultimate Recoverable Resources" or URRs
So, let's consider a world fossil URR estimate that many people
would consider as "pessimistic," the one by Jean Laherrere that
I already discussed in a previous post.
It turns out that we have enough oil and gas that, together,
they can produce enough CO2 to reach the 2 degrees limit; even
though, maybe, not more. There follows that, if we really wanted
to burn all the oil and gas known to be extractable, to stay
withing the limit we would need to stop burning coal - zero
burning, zilch - starting from tomorrow! Not an easy thing to
do, considering that coal produces more than 40% of the energy
that powers the world's electrical grid and, in some countries,
much more than that. It is true that coal is the dirtiest of the
three fossil fuels and must be phased out faster than oil and
gas, but the consumption of all three must go down together,
otherwise it will be impossible to remain under the limit.
In the end, we have here one more of the many illusions that
surround the climate issue; one that could be dangerous it were
to spread. However, in addition to the other problems described
here, Andrew's post falls into the same trap of many previous
attempts: it uses the data produced by climate science to try to
demonstrate its main thesis, but only after having defined
climate science as "Vodoo Science." No way: this is not a meme
that will go viral.
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Mr. Palloy,
The only disparaging and thoroughly offensive commenter on this
forum lacking the most basic level of respect and decorum, in
regard to your consistent hyperbole, hair splitting and obtuse
deliberate misinterpretation of the most basic phrases in the
English language is YOU. From the start, you have consistently
and abusively attacked absolutely everything I have written
about, from ethanol to predicted wave activity to the massive
level of pollution from fossil fuels that is what is REALLY
destroying human civilization. The fact that you "BELIEVE" in
peak oil causing a "collapse" gives you ZERO excuse to get into
high dungeon because I vigorously, and with many irrefutable
data points, give you no credit for rational thinking. You think
I am wrong. I know you are the one that is woefully wrong. After
you accused me of being "in a panic" and being "alone" in my
views on this forum, both Eddie and Jdwheeler weighed in to to
support my position. Eddie give both of us equal credit, but JD
made it rather clear to YOU that my argument was the most
important one. YET, you did not apologize for attempting to
disparage my view as some " alarmist fantasy". DON'T tell me YOU
are the one being offended when you routinely dish out
thoroughly demeaning and offensive remarks directed at my posts
and my person.
HERE is what JD wrote to YOU, which I answered since you
disappeared, so you can stick it in your peak oil pipe and SMOKE
IT!
[quote author=jdwheeler42 link=topic=559.msg148959#msg148959
date=1520460646]
[quote author=agelbert link=topic=559.msg148881#msg148881
date=1520364354]
[quote author=jdwheeler42 link=topic=559.msg148877#msg148877
date=1520362941]
[quote author=jdwheeler42 link=topic=559.msg148877#msg148877
date=1520362941]
[quote author=Palloy2 link=topic=559.msg148840#msg148840
date=1520321792]
The thing to panic about is Peak Oil because its impact is just
about to crash the world economy and prevent any kind of
industrial reboot.
[/quote]
You're right about the impact of Peak Oil, but Biosphere
Disruption (aka Climate Change) can cause the extinction of most
complex lifeforms on Earth, so it is a far bigger problem.
Also, Peak Oil is completely unavoidable, all we can do it
change the timing a little one way or the other, and brace
ourselves for the impact. While Biosphere Disruption has
already begun, we still have at least in theory the ability to
avoid the worst effects.
Really, though, it is a false dilemma. The good solutions for
Peak Oil also happen to be the good solutions for Biosphere
Disruption. They just are bad for continuing a BAU consumerist
lifestyle.
[/quote]
Thank you for your serious and well reasoned comment. I
understand that you see this as six of one and half a dozen of
the other, but there is a key issue here that negates the "peak
oil will save us" meme as an excuse to keep buring fossi lfuels
until they are all used up.
...
JD, if you haven't perused this detailed study by David Wasdell,
I recommend it. It clearly shows the climate sensitivity
(radiative forcing) is much higher than the low balled IPCC
scenario model math.
...
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[/quote]
I see it more of a six-of-one, half-a-gross of the other
situation... or in other words, a proper response to climate
change will make peak oil irrelevant. As David Wasdell puts it
at the end of the above article,
"It is time to say NO to the dark and toxic energy of the
underworld. It is time to say YES to the pure and sustainable
energy of light. Photo-dynamics can out-power, out-pace and
out-resource any amount of energy we can get from fossil
sources. It is time to break free from our bondage to the past.
It is time to embrace the freedom of the Sun. It is time to
usher in the dawn of Solar Society.
The transition from fossil dependency to solar dependency is an
extraordinary shift for our species. It can be compared to the
introduction of photosynthesis in the evolution of plants, which
could then take solar energy to transform basic chemicals into
more complex molecules. Today we are able to take solar energy
and transform it directly into electricity, power, heat, and
light. That provides the basis for a metamorphosis. We are not
caught in the death throes of civilisation, merely the demise of
an inappropriate mode of civilisation. We are experiencing the
birth pangs of a new form of humanity."[/quote][/quote]
Now THAT is what is called respecful posting, something I have
YET to see from you. It is IRRESPONSIBLE and downright SHAMEFUL
that you claimed nobody supported my views and then ignored the
posts supporting my views!
Palloy, you show ZERO RESPECT for me and what I post. You NEVER
give me or my posts the benefit of the doubt, but jump in to
snipe and dispargage without regard to manners or decorum. You
REFUSE to peruse David Wasdell's detailed and methodical study.
YOU are the one who cannot deal with evidence and hard facts!
Therefore it is a waste of time to engage you in any discussion.
Respect is a two way street. I am NOT your verbal punching bag.
When, and if, you show respect for my posts, I will reciprocate.
Until then I hold you and everything you write in contempt. DO
NOT POST HERE if you cannot disagree respectfully with what I
write. Apologize or go away!
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Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 14, 2018, 4:50 pm
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March 14th, 2018 by Jake Richardson
The energy storage provider Blue Planet Energy recently deployed
its Blue Ion energy storage systems to support the
electrification efforts in Puerto Rico.
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[center]Image Credit: Blue Planet Energy[/center]
These deployments took place in areas where there has not been
reliable electricity since September of 2017, when Hurricane
Maria struck. One site is a volunteer housing facility in the
Isabela municipality and the other is located in the Corozal
municipality to provide electricity to a clean water pumping
system. Blue Planet Energy is also providing support through
training and education sessions.
Too many of Puerto Rico’s residents have not had a functioning
electric grid since Hurricane Maria’s landfall in September. Our
Blue Ion units will provide critical sites with reliable, safe
and self-sustained power to ensure they can continue providing
essential services to their communities. We’re proud to be able
to lend our support to Puerto Rico and to contribute to its
mission of rebuilding with stronger, cleaner and more reliable
energy infrastructure,” said Henk Rogers, Blue Planet Energy CEO
and founder.
A 16 kilowatt-hour (kWh) Blue Ion 2.0 battery unit was installed
at the well pumping system in Corozal. The energy storage
technology is working with a 7 kW solar power system in a remote
neighborhood called Palos Blanco. This area was experiencing a
lack of both clean water and reliable electricity, so the solar
power and energy storage system is helping to produce both.
“Our mission on the ground in Puerto Rico is to coordinate with
the EPA and FEMA to install safe drinking water stations and
solar-powered pumping systems to service those that need it
most, ” explained Mark Baker, Director of Disaster Response for
Water Mission. This organization is working to address water
safety in many rural communities in Puerto Rico.
Another 16 kWh Blue Ion system was deployed at the Las Dunas
volunteer center. This facility supports aid workers who are
installing solar power kits by providing them with housing and
assistance. Up to 15 volunteers can be housed there, but the
structure was without power until the new system was deployed.
“Partnering with Blue Planet Energy has helped to supply
reliable power for our base operations, allowing us to meet our
mission of deploying solar kits to areas hardest hit by Maria,”
explained Walter Meyer-Rodriguez the Coastal Marine Resource
Center project lead.
In fact, CMRC has plans to add over 100 more solar power +
energy storage systems in under-served areas of Puerto Rico.
Blue Planet Energy also sponsored the Puerto Rico Solar Energy
Industries Association’s inaugural Clean Energy Summit in San
Juan in February to address how energy storage could help in the
island’s recovery.
“Being on the ground in Puerto Rico and speaking with people
from communities impacted by Hurricane Maria, we’ve seen
firsthand the risk that centralized power systems pose and the
hardship they can leave in the wake of a devastating weather
event. The Blue Planet Energy team is thrilled to pass on the
knowledge and tools for reliable, well-designed off-grid power
so that Puerto Ricans can rebuild their communities,” stated
Blue Planet Energy’s Vice President of Engineering Kyle Bolger.
The Blue Ion off-grid ferrous phosphate battery system has
products at 8 kWh, 16 kWh, and a much larger option that can be
scaled up to 450 kWh. [img
width=50]
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Agelbert COMMENT: I applaud storage techology. This will help
Puerto Ricans get off the profit over planet treadmill of fossil
fuel 😈 energy price gouging for good!
#Post#: 9294--------------------------------------------------
Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 15, 2018, 11:54 am
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[quote author=David B. link=topic=559.msg149728#msg149728
date=1521075449]
[quote author=agelbert link=topic=559.msg149704#msg149704
date=1521064449]
[center]Blue Planet Energy Supplies Energy Storage & Training In
Puerto Rico [img
width=50]
HTML http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif[/img]
[/center]
March 14th, 2018 by Jake Richardson
The energy storage provider Blue Planet Energy recently deployed
its Blue Ion energy storage systems to support the
electrification efforts in Puerto Rico.
[center]
[img
width=400]
HTML https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/files/2018/03/Screen-Shot-2018-03-12-at-2.16.33-PM.png[/img][/center]
[center]Image Credit: Blue Planet Energy[/center]
These deployments took place in areas where there has not been
reliable electricity since September of 2017, when Hurricane
Maria struck. One site is a volunteer housing facility in the
Isabela municipality and the other is located in the Corozal
municipality to provide electricity to a clean water pumping
system. Blue Planet Energy is also providing support through
training and education sessions.
Too many of Puerto Rico’s residents have not had a functioning
electric grid since Hurricane Maria’s landfall in September. Our
Blue Ion units will provide critical sites with reliable, safe
and self-sustained power to ensure they can continue providing
essential services to their communities. We’re proud to be able
to lend our support to Puerto Rico and to contribute to its
mission of rebuilding with stronger, cleaner and more reliable
energy infrastructure,” said Henk Rogers, Blue Planet Energy CEO
and founder.
A 16 kilowatt-hour (kWh) Blue Ion 2.0 battery unit was installed
at the well pumping system in Corozal. The energy storage
technology is working with a 7 kW solar power system in a remote
neighborhood called Palos Blanco. This area was experiencing a
lack of both clean water and reliable electricity, so the solar
power and energy storage system is helping to produce both.
“Our mission on the ground in Puerto Rico is to coordinate with
the EPA and FEMA to install safe drinking water stations and
solar-powered pumping systems to service those that need it
most, ” explained Mark Baker, Director of Disaster Response for
Water Mission. This organization is working to address water
safety in many rural communities in Puerto Rico.
Another 16 kWh Blue Ion system was deployed at the Las Dunas
volunteer center. This facility supports aid workers who are
installing solar power kits by providing them with housing and
assistance. Up to 15 volunteers can be housed there, but the
structure was without power until the new system was deployed.
“Partnering with Blue Planet Energy has helped to supply
reliable power for our base operations, allowing us to meet our
mission of deploying solar kits to areas hardest hit by Maria,”
explained Walter Meyer-Rodriguez the Coastal Marine Resource
Center project lead.
In fact, CMRC has plans to add over 100 more solar power +
energy storage systems in under-served areas of Puerto Rico.
Blue Planet Energy also sponsored the Puerto Rico Solar Energy
Industries Association’s inaugural Clean Energy Summit in San
Juan in February to address how energy storage could help in the
island’s recovery.
“Being on the ground in Puerto Rico and speaking with people
from communities impacted by Hurricane Maria, we’ve seen
firsthand the risk that centralized power systems pose and the
hardship they can leave in the wake of a devastating weather
event. The Blue Planet Energy team is thrilled to pass on the
knowledge and tools for reliable, well-designed off-grid power
so that Puerto Ricans can rebuild their communities,” stated
Blue Planet Energy’s Vice President of Engineering Kyle Bolger.
The Blue Ion off-grid ferrous phosphate battery system has
products at 8 kWh, 16 kWh, and a much larger option that can be
scaled up to 450 kWh. [img
width=50]
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311017193926.png[/img]
HTML https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/14/blue-planet-energy-supplies-energy-storage-training-puerto-rico/
HTML https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/14/blue-planet-energy-supplies-energy-storage-training-puerto-rico/
Agelbert COMMENT: I applaud storage techology. This will help
Puerto Ricans get off the profit over planet treadmill of fossil
fuel 😈 energy price gouging for good!
[/quote]It really is a great product. We are a dealer for them.
The lithium iron phosphate cell has great potential...
[/quote]
#Post#: 9295--------------------------------------------------
Re: Batteries
By: AGelbert Date: March 15, 2018, 11:57 am
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[quote author=RE link=topic=559.msg149729#msg149729
date=1521075907]
[quote author=David B. link=topic=559.msg149728#msg149728
date=1521075449]
It really is a great product. We are a dealer for them. The
lithium iron phosphate cell has great potential...
[/quote]
How much do they cost?
RE
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[quote author=RE link=topic=559.msg149733#msg149733
date=1521077676]
[quote author=David B. link=topic=559.msg149732#msg149732
date=1521077585]
About 3 times the cost of a lead acid agm bank of the same
capacity but should last 4 times longer. It's complicated though
because each have strengths and weaknesses. It's a great
product.
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How much for the 8KwH version?
RE
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