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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 24, 2013, 9:54 pm
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Surly,
The DD has been getting smacked a lot recently. Do you think
it's the increase in traffic or a deliberate attempt to muzzle
our voices (denial of service attack) there by somebody that
doesn't like the increased readership? I've noticed that even
the waste based society thread that hardly ever gets new posts
is mushrooming in the views. :o
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Forbidden Archeology is probably more truth based than what we t
hink.
By: AGelbert Date: December 2, 2013, 12:56 am
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Yonaguni - Ancient Underwater City
By: AGelbert Date: December 4, 2013, 2:27 pm
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Discovery
The sea off Yonaguni is a popular diving location during the
winter months owing to its large population of hammerhead
sharks. In 1987, while looking for a good place to observe the
sharks, Kihachiro Aratake, a director of the Yonaguni-Cho
Tourism Association, noticed some singular seabed formations
resembling architectonic structures.[3] Shortly thereafter, a
group of scientists directed by Masaaki Kimura of the University
of the Ryūkyūs visited the formations.
The formation has since become a relatively popular attraction
for divers despite the strong currents.[3] In 1997, Japanese
industrialist Yasuo Watanabe sponsored an informal expedition
comprising writers John Anthony West and Graham Hancock,
photographer Santha Faiia, geologist Robert Schoch, a few sport
divers and instructors, and a shooting crew for Channel 4 and
Discovery Channel. Another notable visitor was freediver Jacques
Mayol, who wrote a book on his dives at Yonaguni.[4]
Main features
The Monument consists of medium to very fine sandstones and
mudstones of the Lower Miocene Yaeyama Group believed to have
been deposited about 20 million years ago.[1] Most of the
formations are connected to the underlying rock mass (as opposed
to being assembled out of freestanding rocks).
The formation called "The Turtle"
The main feature (the "Monument" proper) is a rectangular
formation measuring about 150 by 40 m (490 by 130 ft) and about
27 m (90 ft) tall; the top is about 5 m (16 ft) below sea
level.[5]
Some of its details are said to be:
two closely spaced pillars which rise to within eight feet of
the surface;
a 5 m (16 ft) wide ledge that encircles the base of the
formation on three sides;
a stone column about 7 m (23 ft) tall;
a straight wall 10 m (33 ft) long;
an isolated boulder resting on a low platform;
a low star-shaped platform;
a triangular depression with two large holes at its edge;
an L-shaped rock.
Artificial structures
The flat parallel faces, sharp edges, and mostly right angles of
the formation have led many people, including many of the
underwater photographers and divers who have visited the site
and some scholars, to the opinion that those features are
human-made.[6] These people include Gary and Cecilia Hagland[6]
and Tom Holden, who went on underwater expeditions to study and
photograph the site. These features include a trench that has
two internal 90° angles as well as the twin megaliths that
appear to have been placed there. These megaliths have straight
edges and square corners.
However, sea currents have been known to move large rocks on a
regular basis.[2][5][7][8] Some of those who see the formations
as being largely natural claim that they may have been modified
by human hands.[1] The semiregular terraces of the Monument have
been compared to other examples of megalithic architecture, such
as the rock-hewn terraces seen at Sacsayhuaman.[9] The
formations have also been compared to the Okinawa Tomb, a
rock-hewn structure of uncertain age.
Other evidence presented by those who favor an artificial
origin[who?] include the two round holes (about 2 feet wide,
according to photographs) on the edge of the Triangle Pool
feature and a straight row of smaller holes that have been
interpreted as an abandoned attempt to split off a section of
the rock by means of wedges, as in ancient quarries.
Kimura believes that he has [I]identified traces of drawings of
animals and people[/I] engraved on the rocks, including a
horselike sign that he believes resembles a character from the
Kaida script. Some have also interpreted a formation on the side
of one of the monuments as a crude moai-like "face".
Supporters of artificial origin, such as Graham Hancock,[6] also
argue that, while many of the features seen at Yonaguni are also
seen in natural sandstone formations throughout the world, the
concentration of so many peculiar formations in such a small
area is highly unlikely.[6] They also point to the relative
absence of loose blocks on the flat areas of the formation,
which would be expected if they were formed solely by natural
erosion and fracturing.[citation needed] Robert Schoch has noted
that the rocks are swept with strong currents.[10]
If any part of the monument was deliberately constructed or
modified, that must have happened during the most recent ice
age, when the sea level was much lower than it is today (e.g. 39
m (130 ft) lower around 10,000 years BCE). During the ice age,
the East China Sea was a narrow bay opening to the ocean at
today's Tokara Gap.[11] The Sea of Japan was an inland sea and
there was no Yellow Sea; people and animals could walk into the
Ryukyu peninsula from the continent. Therefore, Yonaguni was the
southern end of a land bridge that connected it to Taiwan,
Ryūkyū, Japan, and Asia. This fact is underscored by a
rock pillar in a now-submerged cave that has been interpreted as
a fused stalactite-stalagmite pair, which could only form above
water.
Kimura first estimated that this must be at least 10,000 years
old (8,000 BCE), dating it to a time when it would have been
above water.[7] In a report given to the 21st Pacific Science
Congress in 2007, he revised this estimate and dated it to 2,000
to 3,000 years ago as the sea level then was close to current
levels. He suggests that after construction tectonic activity
caused it to be submerged below sea level. Archaeologist Richard
J. Pearson believes this to be unlikely.[10] Kimura believes he
can identify a pyramid, castles, roads, monuments and a stadium,
and has surmised that the site may be a remnant of the mythical
lost continent of Mu.[2]
The existence of an ancient stoneworking tradition at Yonaguni
and other Ryukyu islands is demonstrated by some old tombs and
several stone vessels of uncertain age.[1] Small camps, pottery,
stone tools and large fireplaces were found on Yonaguni possibly
dating back to 2500 BCE; Pearson notes that these were small
communities, adding "They are not likely to have had extra
energy for building stone monuments."[10]
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Palace of King Ravana Over 5000 years ago
By: AGelbert Date: December 8, 2013, 1:06 am
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Palace of King Ravana Over 5000 years ago
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: Surly1 Date: December 8, 2013, 10:40 am
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Must say, AG, I am endlessly fascinated by lost history and
anthropology.
Graham Hancock wrote a book about a submerged Japanese city some
years ago. I enjoyed that, and it too was complete with peole
arguing against, saying that dressed right angles were natural
formations, etc.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: December 17, 2013, 12:50 am
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[quote]it too was complete with people arguing against, saying
that dressed right angles were natural formations, etc.[/quote]
Yep, they are always arguing about what natural or not. There's
a lot of rock formation that looks like it came out of a hexagon
mold factory in Ireland (giant's causway). It was some kind
geologic
process when the rock cools that caused that.
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But Yonaguni looks a lot like that palace King Ravana built on a
stone promontory. It looks like the real deal to me. It was
above water at one time and I see no way that such asymmetrical
shape can come about on ALL FOUR SIDES by nature. If it was
like a scalloped wall on the grand canyon or something like that
with no other sides, I would say it was natural. Maybe someday
we will know.
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Civilizations lost through a Catastrophic Pole and Crustal shift
?
By: AGelbert Date: December 26, 2013, 12:03 am
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The above computer animation of a pole shift causing
catastrophic rapid crustal movement could easily explain why the
frozen wooly mammoths in Siberia were found with flowers and
plants in their stomachs that simply do not grow in a cold
climate. The flash frozen bodies effect would certainly take
place if Siberia moved a thousand miles or more towards the
north pole in a few hours.
Something like the above, even if it was a more gentle shift of,
say a thousand miles or so, would be enough to cause massive
tidal waves and the destruction of most land based, ancient
civilizations.
The few survivors that happened to be far from populated areas
very high in some mountains, without education or knowledge of
the past, would not, as occurred when the Spaniards asked the
Incas about the ruins at Lake Titicaca, know who built them or
how to duplicate the precision in stonework and joining. 8)
And all that was centuries before more pre-Inca ruins were
discovered.
Aug 23, 2000 - The ruins of a pre-Incans ancient temple have
been found under Lake ... of the lake, sited in the Andes
mountains between Bolivia and Peru. :o
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Tomorrow may have been Yesterday
By: AGelbert Date: February 4, 2014, 11:58 pm
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How could upward of a million people survive here, over a thousa
nd years ago?
By: AGelbert Date: February 23, 2014, 4:07 pm
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The Miracle Of Terra Preta
A large pre-historic civilization is found in the central
Amazon. Archeologists and scientists are shocked. The soil there
is thought to be impossible to grow sufficient produce in. How
could upward of a million people survive here, over a thousand
years ago?
Could this be the elusive El Dorado, the city of gold?
Because there is a kind of gold here, in great abundance: bio
char, or black gold. The most fertile soil on earth. It's no
accident. Bio char is not naturally occurring in nature, it must
be cultivated by man.
Bio Char is an ancient method of enhancing soil fertility and
carbon sequestration with charcoal and organic matter. It helps
the soil retain water and increase crop yields. It enhances
microbiological activity. It retains nutrients for plants that
would otherwise be lost to the atmosphere, or washed away by
rains.
This could represent a key strategy in breaking the cycle of
slash and burn farming, and restore our soil.
Now we know how this civilization thrived. At 30 minutes into
this presentation, the miracle of Bio Char is explained. There
is an 880% increase in crop yields when bio char is used!
And here is something we didn't know: The great civilization in
the Amazon left a precious legacy. In the last 10 minutes of
this documentary we learn that the stuff actually renews itself!
If we can unlock the secret to reproducing this black gold, we
can save the planet!
--Bibi Farber
This video was produced by the BBC
- See more at:
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A Mayan codex predicted a solar eclipse 1000 years in advance PL
US a UFO VISIT!
By: AGelbert Date: April 14, 2014, 1:19 am
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HOW did the Mayans know 1000 years in advance that we would be
visited by the "The brothers from the Stars" on the day of a
solar eclipse? :o ???
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