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Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 12, 2013, 8:39 pm
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[font=times new roman]From Legend to Reality[/font]
Thonis-Heracleion (the Egyptian and Greek names of the city) is
a city lost between legend and reality. Before the foundation of
Alexandria in 331 BC, the city knew glorious times as the
obligatory port of entry to Egypt for all ships coming from the
Greek world. It had also a religious importance because of the
temple of Amun, which played an important role in rites
associated with dynasty continuity.
The city was founded probably around the 8th century BC,
underwent diverse natural catastrophes, and finally sunk
entirely into the depths of the Mediterranean in the 8th century
AD.
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Prior to its discovery in 2000 by the IEASM, no trace of
Thonis-Heracleion had been found. Its name was almost razed from
the memory of mankind, only preserved in ancient classic texts
and rare inscriptions found on land by archaeologists.
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The Greek historian Herodotus (5th century BC) tells us of a
great temple that was built where the famous hero Herakles first
set foot on to Egypt. He also reports of Helen’s visit to
Heracleion with her lover Paris before the Trojan War. More than
four centuries after Herodotus’ visit to Egypt, the geographer
Strabo observed that the city of Heracleion, which possessed the
temple of Herakles, is located straight to the east of Canopus
at the mouth of the Canopic branch of the River Nile.
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[font=times new roman]The Discovery[/font]
With his unique survey-based approach that utilises the most
sophisticated technical equipment, Franck Goddio and his team
from the IEASM, in cooperation with the Egyptian Supreme Council
of Antiquities, were able to locate, map and excavate parts of
the city of Thonis-Heracleion, which lies 6.5 kilometres off
today’s coastline.
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The city is located within an overall research area of 11 by 15
kilometres in the western part of Aboukir Bay. Franck Goddio has
found important information on the ancient landmarks of
Thonis-Heracleion, such as the grand temple of Amun and his son
Khonsou (Herakles for the Greeks), the harbours that once
controlled all trade into Egypt, and the daily life of its
inhabitants.
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He has also solved a historic enigma that has puzzled
Egyptologists over the years: the archaeological material has
revealed that Heracleion and Thonis were in fact one and the
same city with two names; Heracleion being the name of the city
for the Greeks and Thonis for the Egyptians.
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The objects recovered from the excavations illustrate the
cities’ beauty and glory, the magnificence of their grand
temples and the abundance of historic evidence: colossal
statues, inscriptions and architectural elements, jewelry and
coins, ritual objects and ceramics - a civilization frozen in
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The quantity and quality of the archaeological material
excavated from the site of Thonis-Heracleion show that this city
had known a time of opulence and a peak in its occupation from
the 6th to the 4th century BC. This is readily seen in the large
quantity of coins and ceramics dated to this period.
The port of Thonis-Heracleion had numerous large basins and
functioned as a hub of international trade. The intense activity
in the port fostered the city’s prosperity. More than seven
hundred ancient anchors of various forms and over 60 wrecks
dating from the 6th to the 2nd century BC are also an eloquent
testimony to the intensity of maritime activity here.
The city extended all around the temple and a network of canals
in and around the city must have given it a lake dwelling
appearance. On the islands and islets dwellings and secondary
sanctuaries were located. Excavations here have revealed
beautiful archaeological material such as bronze statuettes. On
the north side of the temple to Herakles, a grand canal flowed
through the city from east to west and connected the port basins
with a lake to the west.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: Surly1 Date: November 13, 2013, 5:15 am
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This story- and the videos- are just extraordinary, AG.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 13, 2013, 6:32 pm
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Thanks Surly. I cannot figure out why, with the huge spike in
the daily views I have on my DD newz channel, more people don't
agree that I've got good content, visit my sight to jack up my
views, and register. I don't get it. ???
I have discussed the page hit count mystery with create-a-forum
support. No answer from them yet.
I'm learning CSS so I can take this baby apart and put it back
together any way I want, whenever I want (same with wikidot!). I
am tired of all this web software mystery out there. I am
putting my programmer hat on from many years ago and I'm going
get this stuff DOWN once and for all. >:( ;)
The Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. article is almost done. There
REALLY WAS a "SHERLOCK HOLMES" connection! Arthur Conan Doyle
gave Sherlock the "Holmes" last name in honor of Holmes' father,
a noted medical doctor. ;D
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: Surly1 Date: November 14, 2013, 5:54 am
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When you put your plumber's hat on, fix the "quote" function,
willy a?
As to why people don'r register, who can say? I would think that
anyone who follows one of your links from D would have to end up
here, yes?
Anyhow, the thread of lost civilizations is compelling to me.
Too many oddball and out of place artifacts without explanation
have been discovered for me to believe that the conventional
narrative of history is true...
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 14, 2013, 2:14 pm
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[quote author=Surly1 link=topic=62.msg328#msg328
date=1384430064]
When you put your plumber's hat on, fix the "quote" function,
willy a?
As to why people don'r register, who can say? I would think that
anyone who follows one of your links from D would have to end up
here, yes?
Anyhow, the thread of lost civilizations is compelling to me.
Too many oddball and out of place artifacts without explanation
have been discovered for me to believe that the conventional
narrative of history is true...
[/quote]
This is a test.
Okay, that worked. BUT, to make it work I had to RIGHT click on
the quote and select "open in new tab". At the new tab the reply
was set up with the quoted post.
Weird, I know. But you can make it work that way until I figure
out how to make it work like it does in the DD forum. I am now
going to log out as Admin and log in as a guest to see if it
works for the lowest common denominator of posters.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: Empirical Test Date: November 14, 2013, 2:36 pm
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[quote author=AGelbert link=topic=62.msg329#msg329
date=1384460092]
This is a test.
Okay, that worked. BUT, to make it work I had to RIGHT click on
the quote and select "open in new tab". At the new tab the reply
was set up with the quoted post. Weird, I know. But you can make
it work that way until I figure out how to make it work like it
does in the DD forum. I am now going to log out as Admin and
log in as a guest to see if it works for the lowest common
denominator of posters.
[/quote]
This is a test to see if a guest can use the quote feature. It
worked this time by just hitting the quote button exactly like
it works at the DD (LEFT click!). ;D
As a guest I see that I have to enter a reCaptcha thing to make
sure I am a human. ;D
Here goes nuttin'.
It refused to accept it until I entered a guest name and a valid
e-mail address.
I entered, "Empirical Test" for the guest name and a valid
e-mail address with a new reCaptcha "I am human" check.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 14, 2013, 3:11 pm
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[quote author=Empirical Test link=topic=62.msg330#msg330
date=1384461414]
This is a test to see if a guest can use the quote feature. It
worked this time by just hitting the quote button exactly like
it works at the DD (LEFT click!). ;D
As a guest I see that I have to enter a reCaptcha thing to make
sure I am a human. ;D
Here goes nuttin'.
It refused to accept it until I entered a guest name and a valid
e-mail address.
I entered, "Empirical Test" for the guest name and a valid
e-mail address with a new reCaptcha "I am human" check.
[/quote]
Back to being me again, I have to right click for the quote to
work in an "open in new tab" way.
So it goes. Whatever works. ??? ;)
One day at a time, I'll get this place workin' right.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 21, 2013, 2:22 pm
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Ancient City Discovered Beneath Biblical-Era Ruins in Israel
By Tia Ghose, Staff Writer | November 16, 2013
rchaeologists have unearthed traces of a previously unknown,
14th-century Canaanite city buried underneath the ruins of
another city in Israel.
The traces include an Egyptian amulet of Amenhotep III and
several pottery vessels from the Late Bronze Age unearthed at
the site of Gezer, an ancient Canaanite city.
Gezer was once a major center that sat at the crossroads of
trade routes between Asia and Africa, said Steven Ortiz, a
co-director of the site's excavations and a biblical scholar at
the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth,
Texas.
The remains of the ancient city suggest the site was used for
even longer than previously known. [The Holy Land: 7 Amazing
Archaeological Finds]
Biblical city
The ancient city of Gezer has been an important site since the
Bronze Age, because it sat along the Way of the Sea, or the Via
Maris, an ancient trade route that connected Egypt, Syria,
Anatolia and Mesopotamia.
The city was ruled over many centuries by Canaanites, Egyptians
and Assyrians, and Biblical accounts from roughly the 10th
century describe an Egyptian pharaoh giving the city to King
Solomon as a wedding gift after marrying his daughter.
"It's always changed hands throughout history," Ortiz told
LiveScience.
The site has been excavated for a century, and most of the
excavations so far date to the the 10th through eighth centuries
B.C. Gezer also holds some of the largest underground water
tunnels of antiquity, which were likely used to keep the water
supply safe during sieges.
But earlier this summer, Ortiz and his colleague Samuel Wolff of
the Israel Antiquities Authority noticed traces of an even more
ancient city from centuries before King Solomon's time. Among
the layers was a section that dated to about the 14th century
B.C., containing a scarab, or beetle, amulet from King Amenhotep
III, the grandfather of King Tut. They also found shards of
Philistine pottery.
During that period, the ancient site was probably a Canaanite
city that was under Egyptian influence.
The findings are consistent with what scholars suspected of the
site, said Andrew Vaughn, a biblical scholar and executive
director of the American Schools of Oriental Research, who was
not involved in the study.
"It's not surprising that a city that was of importance in the
biblical kingdoms of Israel and Judah would have an older
history and would have played an important political and
military role prior to that time," Vaughn told LiveScience. "If
you didn't control Gezer, you didn't control the east-west trade
route."
But once the location of that major road moved during the Roman
period, the city waned in importance. It was later conquered and
destroyed, but never fully rebuilt.
"Just like today when you have a ghost town — where you move the
train and that city goes out of use," Ortiz said.
Follow Tia Ghose on Twitter and Google+. Follow LiveScience
@livescience, Facebook & Google+. Original article on
LiveScience.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: AGelbert Date: November 24, 2013, 1:44 am
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Giant Pyramids and Sphinxes Found in The Bermuda Triangle
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Two scientists, Paul Weinzweig and Pauline Zalitzki, working off
the coast of Cuba and using a robot submersible, have confirmed
that a gigantic city exists at the bottom of the ocean. The site
of the ancient city — that includes several sphinxes and at
least four giant pyramids plus other structures — amazingly sits
within the boundaries of the fabled Bermuda Triangle.
According to a report by Arclein of Terra Forming Terra, Cuban
Subsea Pyramid Complex, the evidence points to the city being
simultaneously inundated with rising waters and the land sinking
into the sea. This correlates exactly with the Atlantis legend.
The disaster may have occurred at the end of the last Ice Age.
As the Arctic icecap catastrophically melted it caused sea
levels to rise quickly around the world, especially affecting
the Northern Hemisphere. Coast lines changed; land was lost;
islands (even island continents) disappeared.
Arclein observes: “At the time uplifted portions of the Mid
Atlantic Ridge subsided also including Lyonese and the home
islands and land mass around the Azores. Even if that had not
happened, this subsidence was amply large enough
This would have produced an orthogonal pressure forcing
subsidence to either East or West. Since the ridge between Cuba
and Yucatan is the natural point of weakness between the Gulf
subsidence basin and the Caribbean subsidence basin, it
naturally subsided deeply. The driver for all this was the
hydrostatic changes brought about by both the original crustal
shift of 12,900 years ago that I have called the Pleistocene
Nonconformity and the slow uplift of the Hudson Bay Basin
brought about by the ending of the Ice Age.”
Cuban missile crisis stops research
According to journalist Luis Mariano Fernandez the city was
first discovered decades ago, but all access to it was stopped
during and after the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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HTML http://www.luismarianofernandez.com/AtlantidaEnCuba4.html)
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view in other languages, use the google translate tool bar.
The U.S. government discovered the alleged place during the
Cuban missile crisis in the sixties, Nuclear submarines cruising
in the Gulf (in deep sea) met pyramid structures. They
immediately shut down the site and took control of him and the
objects, in order that it will not come to Russians hands.”
The science team of deep ocean experts, archaeologists and
oceanographers found ruins of ancient buildings 600 feet below
the ocean. They say the city is Atlantis.
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Pyramids and sphinxes bigger than Egypt’s
Evidence that the island of Cuba is the vestige of a once mighty
culture is supported by Zalitzki’s discovery on the island of
extremely ancient symbols and pictograms identical to those seen
on the underwater structures.
Using exploration submersibles, they discovered amazingly huge
pyramid structures similar to (but larger than) the pyramids in
Giza, Egypt. They estimate the Atlantis pyramids are constructed
with stones weighing many hundreds of tons.
Speaking with a scientist about the possibility that the ruins
are indeed Atlantis, Fernandez reports the expert replied:
“…in the Yucatan cultures today is possible that what still
remains of the aborigines of those places perhaps the Olmecs or
some very primitive civilization of Yucatan, the northern part
of Central America—originated according to them on an island
that sank by a cataclysm. This island is called Atlanticú.”
That too fits the stories about the sudden demise of the
wondrous Atlantis.
Atlanticú. Atlantis. The aboriginal natives still call it that
in their history.
During an interview about the exploration of the mega-city,
Fernandez asked lead scientist Pauline Zalitzki about the
civilaztion that built it.
“When we published the first news of this finding,” she said,
“the University of Veracruz was interested in our work and we
had recorded images of these structures on the seabed.
Specifically, the Institute of Anthropology of the University
excavations invited me. They were doing [studies] on parts and
ruins of the Olmec civilization.
The Olmecs and other native peoples all have primary morphology
marking the arrival of this continent. This mean coming from the
direction of Cuba, and had to occur in a very large earthquake
where their land sank. Morphologies indicate that they belong to
three families who were saved. One of these families came to the
coast of Veracruz, which are supposedly the Olmec. Others came
to Central America and traveled to the Pacific coast, and these
families created the civilization of the Americas as we know it
today, because they distributed all their knowledge.
When these anthropologists saw underwater images of this city,
and saw some stone monoliths, some symbol, and inscriptions,
they identified with Olmec motifs. They were very surprised.”
The Olmecs devolved from the survivors of Atlantis, a much
superior culture destroyed aft the end of the Ice Age flooding.
The world was reshaped and a super-civilization destroyed,
remembered for millennia only in legend and a passing refernce
by the philosopher Plato.
But Atlantis was real, is real: scientists Paul Weinzweig and
Pauline Zalitzki have found it.
Sonar images of mega-structures on the seabed (
HTML http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/riseearth/Mega_structure.jpg)
Sources and more information:
• BBC News
• Giant Sphinx Discovered Among Bermuda Triangle Pyramids
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
By: Surly1 Date: November 24, 2013, 12:05 pm
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Fascinating story.
Looks like you are open for business. Diner seems down.
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