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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: April 30, 2016, 3:19 pm
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       [quote author=Eddie link=topic=6331.msg95223#msg95223
       date=1452719980]
       It has always been my contention that the reason northern
       European countries have been willing to be so heavily taxed is
       because they perceive that they get what they're paying
       for...that the government has, for most of the last half
       century, lived up to its promises, and a workable, fair social
       contract has existed.
       I have also believed that this has come about, or has been
       possible largely because the population of those countries is
       ethnically homogeneous, or has been until fairly recent years.
       I contrast that with the way we in the US have not done so well
       with universal health care, old age pensions, and disability
       benefits. A lot of that is a real or perceived unfairness that
       some people pay more than their share and others, who may not
       pay anything receive more from the social welfare system.
       I predicted that this would happen in Sweden and Norway and
       Finland if they allowed immigration to create a permanent
       underclass with a different language and different values from
       the mainstream.
       Guess what? I was right. I can't help but feel the slightest bit
       of schadenfreude, since those Nordic countries have always been
       so adamant about their lack of racial discrimination and their
       PC stance on diversity.
       Welcome to our world, y'all.
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       [/quote]
       No you weren't right. The TRUE welfare queen caused expenses
       that are undermining the economies of the Western world are NOT
       the social costs you have been propagandized to believe (along
       with the cleverly disguised racist notion that only ethnically
       homogenous populations can "support" a social safety net).
       If you ever bother to compute the visible and INVISIBLE (but
       easily quantifiable) SUBSIDIES to VARIOUS industries (NOT just
       the fossil fuel industry, though they are one of the BIGGEST
       recipients of WELFARE from the BIGGEST welfare queen system -
       the USA corporate giveaways - in the world ), you would then
       start to see that the social safety net cost numbers are PEANUTS
       compared with the corporate welfare.
       People like you REFUSE to see how ALL government research on
       almost EVERY invention out there, and the R & D needed to make
       them technologically and financially SUCCESSFUL, have been
       HANDED OFF to connected elite corporations for a song, ALWAYS
       bypassing we-the-people, who paid for all of this, when the time
       to sell the product to us arrives.
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       Frankly, your ideological blinders are fascinating in their
       sturdiness and amazing ability to discount and discard real
       expenses that we-the-people are charged for.
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       Good luck with your "real world".  Now I understand why MKing
       frequently tries to ingratiate himself with you. Scratch the
       surface, and under your apparently Guru inspired sympathy for
       the downtrodden of the world, you agree with MKing's "real
       world" Predators 'R' US world view.
       AND, you are always looking for material to "fix the facts" in
       support of your ideology.
       I'm going to be prick here, Eddie. I think, though I may be
       wrong  ;D, that I have finally figured out how you tick. You, at
       some point in your education, were convinced of the efficacy of
       game theory in human relations.
       Game Theory, as you know, is what the Defense Department AND
       Wall Street uses to justify excluding absolutely any altruistic
       behavior in competitive strategies. It was created by an
       autistic mathematical genius IDIOT who worshipped Spencer and
       did not understand Darwin.
       The problem with game theory in the REAL real world is that it
       fails to model it properly. By totally excluding altruistic
       behavior (except as a ploy to sucker the opponent into a
       position of weakness  [img
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       />it is doomed to, not just fail miserably, but to degrade the
       [i]sine qua non conditions the species engaging in it requires
       for perpetuation.[/i]
       YOU DO NOT understand that, Eddie. YOU are sold on Game Theory,
       as are most Capitalists, Libertarians, Wall Streeters and, of
       course, the Military Industrial complex.
       You ALL are WRONG. But you talk a good game (theory).  ;)
       Every time you fine fellows try to finger social safety nets as
       "welfare queenery" or "someone else's money" (Thatcher greed is
       good idiocy) OR "bad for the economy", while WILLFULLY ignoring
       the MASSIVE corporate welfare queenery, you just want
       brainwashed average Americans to act against their best
       interests, AND BE HAPPY ABOUT IT (see below).
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       Darwin would not be amused with Game Theory.
       Forget Survival of the Fittest: It Is Kindness That Counts
       A psychologist probes how altruism, Darwinism and neurobiology
       mean that we can succeed by not being cutthroat.
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       The FACT is that we, as a species, WILL NOT SUCCEED
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       if we CONTINUE to exclude
       altruism (involving ALL LIFE, not just our family!) from our
       modus vivendi.
       Have a nice day.
       #Post#: 5052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: May 6, 2016, 2:00 pm
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       [center]Big Ag Forces Firing of Long-Time Farm News Cartoonist
       >:([/center]
       Marion Nestle, Food Politics | May 6, 2016 9:49 am
       I love cartoons and was appalled when I read this tweet:
       Romenesko
       &#10004;  &#8206;&#8206;@romenesko
       "I am no longer the editorial cartoonist for Farm News due to
       the attached cartoon..."
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       12:07 PM - 2 May 2016
       Here’s the offending cartoon:
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       In a Facebook post the cartoonist, Rick Friday, explained:
       I am no longer the Editorial Cartoonist for Farm News due to the
       attached cartoon which was published yesterday. Apparently a
       large company affiliated with one of the corporations mentioned
       in the cartoon was insulted and cancelled their advertisement
       with the paper, thus, resulting in the reprimand of my editor
       and cancellation of It’s Friday cartoons after 21 years of
       service and over 1,090 published cartoons to over 24,000
       households per week in 33 counties of Iowa.
       I did my research and only submitted the facts in my cartoon.
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       That’s okay, hopefully my children and my grandchildren will see
       that this last cartoon published by Farm News out of Fort Dodge,
       Iowa, will shine light on how fragile our rights to free speech
       and free press really are in the country.
       The Des Moines Register explains further:
       [quote]The CEOs at the ag giants earned about $52.9 million last
       year, based on Morningstar data. Monsanto and DuPont, the parent
       of Johnston-based Pioneer, are large seed and chemical companies
       and Deere is a large farm equipment manufacturer.[/quote]
       Profits for the three companies, all with large operations
       across Iowa, also have declined as farm income has been
       squeezed. After peaking in 2013, U.S. farm income this year is
       projected to fall to $183 billion, its lowest level since 2002.
       U.S. Uncut adds more details:
       Friday received an email from his supervisor at Farm News,
       informing him that he would be fired, citing he was “instructed”
       [img
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       />by a superior to not accept another cartoon from Friday. The
       supervisor told Friday that “in the eyes of some, Big Ag
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       cannot be criticized
       or poked fun at.”
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       It also published Friday’s cartoons based on his firing. Here’s
       one:
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       Friday has done other cartoons like this. It’s not surprising
       that he has corporate advertisers upset.
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       How to help?
       Consider a quick note to Farm News about how badly Americans
       need a free, independent press to discuss farm issues.
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       Here’s the publisher’s contact information: Larry Bushman at
       lbushman@messengernews.net.
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: June 17, 2016, 3:23 pm
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       [center]Agelbert NOTE:  Happiness equation proves that water is
       wet and selfish people are made, not born. Ya mean you didn't
       know that before you took calculus?
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       [center]This is the updated equation to predict happiness, where
       t is the trial number, w0 is a constant term, other weights w
       capture the influence of different event types, 0 < &#947; < 1
       is a forgetting factor that makes events in more recent trials
       more influential than those in earlier trials, CRj is the
       certain reward if chosen instead of a ga mble on trial j, EVj is
       the average reward for the ga mble if chosen on trial j, and
       RPEj is the RPE (reinforcement prediction error) on trial j
       contingent on choice of the ga mble. The RPE is equal to the
       reward received minus the expectation in that trial EVj. If the
       CR was chosen, then EVj = 0 and RPEj = 0; if the ga mble was
       chosen, then CRj = 0. The variables in the equation are
       quantities that the neuromodulator dopamine has been associated
       with in previous neuroscience studies. The additional term w4
       relates to advantageous inequality (guilt) when the reward
       received by the subject Rj exceeds the reward received by the
       other player Oj, and w5 relates to disadvantageous inequality
       (envy) when Oj exceeds Rj. Credit: Robb Rutledge, UCL[/center]
       A new equation, showing how our happiness depends not only on
       what happens to us but also how this compares to other people,
       has been developed by UCL researchers funded by Wellcome.
       The team developed an equation to predict happiness in 2014,
       highlighting the importance of expectations, and the new updated
       equation also takes into account other people's fortunes.
       The study, published in Nature Communications, found that
       inequality reduced happiness on average. This was true whether
       people were doing better or worse than another person they had
       just met. The subjects played gambles to try to win money and
       saw whether another person won or lost the same ga mbles. On
       average, when someone won a ga mble they were happier when their
       partner also won the same ga mble compared to when their partner
       lost. This difference could be attributed to guilt. Similarly,
       when people lost a ga mble they were happier when their partner
       also lost compared to when their partner won, a difference that
       could be attributed to envy.
       "Our equation can predict exactly how happy people will be based
       not only on what happens to them but also what happens to the
       people around them," explains one of the study's co-lead
       authors, Dr Robb Rutledge (UCL Institute of Neurology and Max
       Planck UCL Centre for Computational Psychiatry and Ageing
       Research). "On average we are less happy if others get more or
       less than us, but this varies a lot from person to person.
       Interestingly, the equation allows us to predict how generous an
       individual will be in a separate scenario when they are asked
       how they would like to split a small amount of money with
       another person. Based on exactly how inequality affects their
       happiness, we can predict which individuals will be altruistic."
       For the study, 47 volunteers who did not know each other
       completed several tasks in small groups. In one task, they were
       asked how they would like to anonymously split a small amount of
       money with another person that they had just met. In another
       task, they played monetary ga mbles that they could win or lose,
       and were told that they would see what another person received
       from the same ga mble. In this way, subjects could get the same
       or different outcome from a social partner, sometimes getting
       more and sometimes getting less. Throughout this experiment,
       participants were asked how happy they felt at regular
       intervals.
       The results showed that people's generosity was not dependent on
       who the partner was or which partner they said they preferred.
       This suggests that people were acting according to stable
       personality traits rather than specific feelings about the other
       player. On average, people whose happiness was more affected by
       getting more than others, something that might relate to guilt,
       gave away 30% of the money. Those who were more affected by
       getting less than others, something that might relate to envy,
       gave only 10%.
       "Our results suggest that generosity towards strangers relates
       to how our happiness is affected by the inequalities we
       experience in our daily life," says Archy de Berker (UCL
       Institute of Neurology), co-lead author of the study, "The
       people who gave away half of their money when they had the
       opportunity showed no envy when they experienced inequality in a
       different task but showed a lot of guilt. By contrast, those who
       kept all the money for themselves displayed no signs of guilt in
       the other task but displayed a lot of envy. This is the first
       time that people's generosity has been directly linked to how
       inequality affects their happiness. Economists have had
       difficulty explaining why some people are more generous than
       others, and our experiments offers an explanation.
       [i]The task may prove to be a useful way of measuring empathy,
       which could offer insight into social disorders such as
       borderline personality disorder. Such methods could help us
       better understand certain aspects of social disorders, such as
       indifference to the suffering of others." [/I]
       Explore further: 'Happiness gap' in the US narrows
       More information: Robb B. Rutledge et al, The social contingency
       of momentary subjective well-being, Nature Communications
       (2016). DOI: 10.1038/ncomms11825
       Journal reference: Nature Communications search and more info
       website
       Provided by: University College London search and more info
       website
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: August 22, 2016, 6:15 pm
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       [center] The[font=arial black] Modern Invention
       [/font][font=times new roman]of the Medieval
       Executioner[/font][/center]
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       August 21, 2016 By Medievalists.net
       The Modern Invention of the Medieval Executioner
       Lecture by Joel Harrington
       Given at Vanderbilt University on May 7, 2015
       [center]
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       [quote][font=times new roman]We all know the hooded, ominous
       figure of the medieval hangman, but in fact that image owes much
       more to nineteenth-century imaginations than to any historical
       reality. After a brief description of a real sixteenth-century
       German executioner, based on his personal journal of forty-five
       years, this lecture will explore the legal, artistic, and
       literary origins of one of the modern age’s most recognizable
       stereotypes, as well as how this has helped distort our common
       understanding of the European Middle Ages. This lecture will
       explore this topic as told in part in Harrington’s most recent
       book, The Faithful Executioner: Life and Death, Honor and Shame
       in the Sixteenth Century (Picador, 2014).
       Joel F. Harrington is Centennial Professor and Chair of the
       Department of History. He as published widely on various topics
       in social, legal, and religious history, particularly dealing
       with Germany during the early modern era (ca. 1450-1750).
       Projects currently underway include a study of the late medieval
       mystic Meister Eckhart and a comparison of the early modern
       prosecution of infanticide and witchcraft.
       Professor Harrington has taught a variety of graduate and
       undergraduate courses at Vanderbilt since his arrival in 1989,
       including the history of Christian traditions, Reformation
       Europe, religion and the occult in early modern Europe, and
       early modern social history.
       From 2004-2011 he served as Vanderbilt’s first senior
       international officer (Associate Provost for Global Strategy), a
       full-time administrative position, and before that, from
       2000-2004, he was Director of the Center for European
       Studies.[/font][/quote]
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: September 11, 2016, 4:20 pm
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       [quote author=azozeo link=topic=7955.msg112383#msg112383
       date=1473618129]
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       [/quote]
       Interesting. As a veteran of some serious syncope episodes prior
       to my pacemaker implantation, I wish to inform readers that they
       way Hillary collapsed is precisely the way you pass out from
       syncope. It could also be a stroke but strokes usually take
       minutes, not seconds, to knock you out.
       In syncope, your heart just stops in its tracks. About 10
       seconds later, you are unconscious. The heart starts up on its
       own about 15 seconds later. Syncope is NOT a heart attack.
       I just wanted to add that, minutes prior to a syncope, you feel
       fatigued and you get paresthesia (tingling in arms and head).
       This is because the heart is already stopping and starting for a
       second or two, not enough to knock you out, but enough to reduce
       the oxygenation in your extremities (tingling and pin pricks).
       Hillary could have started to feel woozy, taken out, and then
       had the main (15 seconds or more) syncope at the SUV.
       UPDATE:
       I just found this. This doctor seems to agree with my diagnosis.
       8)
       [quote]
       Hillary Clinton almost fainted. I’m a doctor. It’s really o.k. |
       Dr. Jen Gunter
       10 hours ago - Hillary Clinton left early from the 9/11
       commemoration in New York as ... With near syncope it is pretty
       easy to intervene, as Mrs. Clinton's team did, and prevent the
       faint. ... breath as I am pretty confident that if Mrs. Clinton
       did have shortness ... with symptoms consistent with vasovagal
       or orthostatic syncope, ...[/quote]
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       Agelbert NOTE:  The vasovagal syncope is the one where the heart
       stops. The Orthostatic syncope is caused by low blood pressure
       (hypotension) from rising up quickly from a sitting or squatting
       position. Also, soldiers at attention in a formation sometimes
       lock their leg muscles inadvertently causing loss of blood
       pressure. They keel over and wake up embarrassed. I DOUBT
       whether Hillary's syncope was orthostatic.
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: September 12, 2016, 2:52 pm
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       [quote author=azozeo link=topic=7955.msg112437#msg112437
       date=1473706292]
       So I have a question here ....
       Is there a medical relationship between Parkinson's Disease &
       Vascular Dementia ?
       [/quote]
       Dementia can be the result of several different disease causes.
       Parkinson's is just one of them.
       But as to the "Pneumonia" diagnosis, it is TOTAL bullshit.
       Pneumonia has SLOW acting symptomology. It is breathtakingly
       arrogant for the propaganda liars to claim Hillary passed out
       from pneumonia. ANY brief study of the symptoms of this disease
       will show that Hillary, if she had pneumonia on the day she
       passed out, would have had BREATHING and COUGHING and FEVER
       symptoms prior to the 9/11 photo op. Her team would have given
       her some powerful medication. It is possible that she had a
       reaction to the DRUGS in her system, which induced a syncope,
       but in either case, it points at RAPID LOSS of OXYGENATION.
       Pneumonia doesn't DO ANYTHING RAPIDLY, PERIOD.
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: September 13, 2016, 1:10 pm
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       [quote author=Eddie link=topic=7955.msg112505#msg112505
       date=1473775460]
       I'm not sure aspiration pneumonia (actually a pneumonitis,
       caused by inhaling (aspirating) vomit) is a bad call. It isn't
       the same as "regular" pneumonia at all really, but since lay
       people don't know the difference, it's a way to make it sound
       like a fairly minor problem (bacterial pneumonia) with a
       definitive treatment. Meaning Hillary would be well in a couple
       of weeks (nothing to see here, move along). That isn't the case
       with aspirating stomach acid, which would be a continuing
       problem, and potentially fatal if she has a bad episode.
       I have followed all the anti-Hillary stories about her coughing
       fits and momentary lapses of coherence while speaking, and I
       think there is SOMETHING going on, something that's definitely
       being soft-pedaled. I'm guessing whatever medical records are
       released will be massaged to make the situation seem more minor
       than it is. I don't think she'll be off the ballot unless she
       drops dead.
       [/quote]
       [quote author=monsta666 link=topic=7955.msg112447#msg112447
       date=1473711058]
       [quote author=agelbert link=topic=7955.msg112446#msg112446
       date=1473709665]But as to the "Pneumonia" diagnosis, it is TOTAL
       bullshit. Pneumonia has SLOW acting symptomology. It is
       breathtakingly arrogant for the propaganda liars to claim
       Hillary passed out from pneumonia. ANY brief study of the
       symptoms of this disease will show that Hillary, if she had
       pneumonia on the day she passed out, would have had BREATHING
       and COUGHING and FEVER symptoms prior to the 9/11 photo op. Her
       team would have given her some powerful medication. It is
       possible that she had a reaction to the DRUGS in her system,
       which induced a syncope, but in either case, it points at RAPID
       LOSS of OXYGENATION. Pneumonia doesn't DO ANYTHING RAPIDLY,
       PERIOD. [/quote]
       I don't think her having pneumonia is totally implausible. Let
       me tell you I have had a heart attack AND pneumonia in my
       life-time and I say that my bouts of pneumonia gave me a greater
       degree of breathlessness than the heart attack. The first time I
       caught pneumonia it actually caused me to collapse on the ground
       after pushing myself physically. The fall was similar to Hilary
       had she no aides to catch her so I think it is possible to fall
       like it especially if one pushes themselves to the limit. Let us
       not forget she is a 67 year old woman so quite likely the
       symptoms could be worse on that front. As for coughing,
       breathing and fever she could have been given some medication to
       reduce those symptoms. In any case though it is all speculation
       and it is possible she has something other than pneumonia
       however I would not discount the idea she has it. Time will tell
       what she has. If this is a one off episode then it lends
       credence to the idea it is just a bout of ill health but if she
       has continued episodes especially in the coming months then
       something more sinister is at foot.
       [/quote]
       Monsta,
       Your argument ignores the fact that Hilary was NOT pushing
       herself to any sort of limit. You also ignore that fact that you
       did NOT pass out and she definitely did. Her symptoms are
       typical of syncope, not pneumonia, of any sort. I am older than
       Hillary. I know EXACTLY what a syncope is and what it feels
       like. I stand by my view that she had a syncope.
       One thing nobody here wants to talk about is the FACT that
       presidential candidates (and all presidents for the past 50
       years or so) are "medicated" (i.e. ON something) out the wazoo
       on a regular basis.
       Eddie talks about different types of pneumonia, yet neglects
       drug interactions that can frequently cause syncope. In fact, ER
       visits for syncope in general, and most collapse situations, ARE
       drug interaction related, regardless off whether the dosage is
       considered an OD or not.
       I stand by my view that Hillary is taking pep pills. I don't
       know if they caused her syncope or not, but pretending that is
       implausible is ignores Occam's Razor here.
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: January 28, 2017, 1:56 pm
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       UB said, [quote]agb, degraded DNA aside are you saying horses
       shouldn't be ridden, sheep shouldn't be sheared, and dogs
       shouldn't be used to round them up or find fugitives or lost
       hikers or drugs or lead blind people or just keep their owner
       physically and psychologically healthy by taking them for a walk
       and warning them the House is on fire or greeting them when they
       get home?[/quote]
       Nope. According to the Wayne study, the wolf/dog was associated
       with mankind for as much as 80 to 100 thousand years WITHOUT any
       greater DNA degradation than what happens in the wild from
       Natural Selection. That is because mankind's relationship was
       mostly empathic and provided happiness and protection to both
       man and dog. That bond will remain. No special INbreeding is
       necessary to provide that.
       But 150 years ago, we went off the deep end and started super
       specializing the dogs. That was WRONG.  It made life a lot
       easier for ranchers and hunters. It made some people a lot of
       money. So?
       In the light of today's scientific discoveries, it was
       unethical. We know that now. We should not perpetuate or
       celebrate unethical behavior just because it is profitable.
       Beyond companionship and empathy, [b]both traits present for
       thousands of years without more than the very gradual, and
       hardly measurable, normal Natural Selection degradation of the
       DNA of wolf/dogs[/b], all the other functions can be done quite
       well, or better, by robots. That is ethical. And by the way,
       many different dog MIXED breeds (because mutts are SMARTER) make
       great seeing eye dogs. Diverse DNA dogs (Mutts) can provide all
       the mutual companionship and protective loving relationships
       both these fine animals and humans crave. Kennel clubs are
       unnecessary and unethical.
       What I am saying is that we should stop creating artificial
       founder effect box canyons, that are deleterious to these
       animals. JUST BECAUSE WE CAN.
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       [quote]All scientific work is incomplete — whether it be
       observational or experimental. All scientific work is liable to
       be upset or modified by advancing knowledge. That does not
       confer upon us a freedom to ignore the knowledge we already
       have, or to postpone the action that it appears to demand at a
       given time.&#8206;
       Appears in 62 books from 1950-2008[/quote]
       When Darwin dreamed up his theory, several mistakes were made
       with the best of intentions (see quote above). BUT NOW, we know
       better. So NOW, we have to EAT CROW and admit that we WERE
       GRIEVOUSLY WRONG.
       It's hard for breeders to admit that. Palloy said he was sad
       because he could not find a "suitable stud" for his Dalmatian bi
       tch. He does not get it.
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       One of the
       deleterious "founder effect" genetic box canyons is precisely
       the incredibly damaging act of using sperm from ONE "ideal" dog
       from a "pure" breed to inseminate several females of the same
       "breed". That is one of the two WORST THINGS they could do (that
       they STILL DO!) based on DARWINIAN "pure" bloodline CRAP. The
       other thing is breeding for dogs to achieve a modified phenotype
       in stature.
       That said, the breeds are there now.
       I certainly DO NOT recommend killing them for any reason.
       I certainly DO recommend providing them with the happiest and
       healthiest living conditions possible.
       I certainly DO NOT recommend castrating or spaying them just
       because they have genetic disorders. That too, is ASS BACKWARDS
       DARWINIAN THINKING. They should ALL be encouraged to OUTbreed
       with mutts. NO "pure" bred dog should be allowed to mate with
       the same "breed", PERIOD.
       The whole dog show IDIOCY should be eliminated.
       And for those special working breeds that love to do what they
       were bred to do, let them keep doing it!  As long as genetic
       testing indicates that no FURTHER accelerated DNA degradation is
       going on, rescue dogs and riding horses, as well as dogs for
       protection are okay. Even herding dogs like the tiny Corgi are
       okay IF we STOP all Inbreeding NOW.
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       They exist. We are at fault. Let them do what they were bred to
       happily do. But let's NOT compound the error, OKAY?
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       I also think is high time we STOP the "pure" breed NONSENSE (see
       ENRICHED URANIUM) and started showing some respect for SCIENCE
       and GENETICS by labeling the Genetically Diverse Dogs (GDD) with
       relatively few inherited disorders as TOP DOGS
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       instead of the pejorative
       "Mutt" label.
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       I won't hold my breath waiting for Palloy to sign on to that...
       :(
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       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: January 28, 2017, 2:21 pm
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       [move]
       The fake news is coming from inside the White House! [/move]
       By Hunter
       Saturday Jan 28, 2017 · 10:00 AM EST
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       SNIPPET:
       What's clear, then, is that the Spicer-led White House press
       room will be moving toward more relaxed definitions of "news"
       than even Facebook is currently comfortable with. Will LifeZette
       use their new status to inquire of Sean Spicer as to whether the
       "Clinton Body Count" will be a topic of White House
       investigation, or if Jim Hoft's team wishes to re-litigate
       Obama's birth certificate yet again, or if one of those
       Macedonian teenagers we have heard so much about during the last
       campaign will get the opportunity to insist that the president
       re-examine whether that children murdered in the Sandy Hook
       shooting were truly dead, or—as some gun advocates believe—the
       whole thing was staged by the federal government.
       But there's another catch here too. It won't just be conspiracy
       theorists squeezing their way into the White House press room.
       As Sean Spicer works to ensure the administration's preferred
       hoaxers make it into one room, Trump's ex-Breitbart chief
       strategist is attempting to fill the offices elsewhere in the
       building with   staff members [img
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       />known more for their [i]propaganda efforts [/I]than for their
       accuracy.
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       #Post#: 6385--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
       By: AGelbert Date: January 28, 2017, 9:02 pm
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       [move]"Trump’s lies, and his urge to tell them, are pure Big
       Brother crude, however oafish their articulation."[/move]
       [quote]You may have heard that George Orwell's book, "1984" is
       once again, for the first time since 1948, the top selling book
       in the United States, in the wake of Kellyanne Conway making her
       iconic "alternative facts" quip. In Orwell’s “1984” and Trump’s
       America Adam Gopnik, also of the New Yorker, unabashedly
       compares Trump's bullying and lying to Orwell's antagonist, Big
       Brother:[/quote]
       [quote]There is nothing subtle about Trump’s behavior. He lies,
       he repeats the lie, and his listeners either cower in fear,
       stammer in disbelief, or try to see how they can turn the lie to
       their own benefit. Every continental wiseguy, from Žižek to
       Baudrillard, insisted that when they pulled the full
       totalitarian wool over our eyes next time, we wouldn’t even know
       it was happening. Not a bit of it. Trump’s lies, and his urge to
       tell them, are pure Big Brother crude, however oafish their
       articulation. They are not postmodern traps and temptations;
       they are primitive schoolyard taunts and threats.
       The blind, blatant disregard for truth is offered without even
       the sugar-façade of sweetness of temper or equableness or
       entertainment—offered not with a sheen of condescending
       consensus but in an ancient tone of rage, vanity, and vengeance.
       Trump is pure raging authoritarian id.
       And so, rereading Orwell, one is reminded of what Orwell got
       right about this kind of brute authoritarianism—and that was
       essentially that it rests on lies told so often, and so
       repeatedly, that fighting the lie becomes not simply more
       dangerous but more exhausting than repeating it. Orwell saw, to
       his credit, that the act of falsifying reality is only
       secondarily a way of changing perceptions. It is, above all, a
       way of asserting power.
       When Trump repeats the ridiculous story about the three million
       illegal voters—a story that no one who knows, that not a single
       White House “staffer,” not a single Republican congressman
       actually believes to be true—he does not really care if anyone
       believes it, even if, at some crazy level, he does, sort of.
       People aren’t meant to believe it; they’re meant to be
       intimidated by it. The lie is not a claim about specific facts;
       the lunacy is a deliberate challenge to the whole larger idea of
       sanity. Once a lie that big is in circulation, trying to reel
       the conversation back into the territory of rational argument
       becomes impossible.
       [/quote]
       Full article at link:
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