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       Re: You will have to pick a side. There is no longer Room for Pr
       ocrastination
       By: AGelbert Date: June 16, 2014, 11:03 pm
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       An interesting and inspiring comment by one who signed the
       petition
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       to Demand Liberty From Fossil
       Fuels Through 100% Renewable Energy WWII Style Effort. Oh that
       many who call themselves Christians who don't believe in
       evolution were this Christian in their actual mindset and
       behavior!
       This man may not believe in God but to me he is a man of God!
       
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       Mr. Ferdinand Puttinger, Austria
       Jun 16, 18:29
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       Please Let`s be AWARE: At present our AGE of exciting scientific
       discoveries is opening to us the unbelievable view on amazing
       interrelations between the complex appearances of whole
       evolution since big bang, from atomic properties to dimensions
       of boundless universe, but we HUMANS want to give preferences to
       commercial-driven short-dated and destructive influences, which
       will change eart`s face irreversible!
       This is an enormous SELFISH and self-inflicted behavior, because
       comming generations will never more have the chance to see the
       unharmed diversity of nature`s uniqueness. If we still prefer to
       be focused mainly on ongoing excessive economic track, we will
       always AGAIN come to the same frustrating conclusion that we
       don`t really move forward to future`s urgently needed solutions!
       AND It`s the most Appaling witness of Mankind`s incredible
       DULLNESS which appears as Paranoiac Schizophrenia Behavior of
       Everyone: We applaud loudly when sciences have found some
       indications of life in archaeological discoveries on other
       planets, but we Humans want to continue destroying stubbornly
       our wonderful multifarious & precious EARTH only for selfish
       whims of greedy & short dated economic interests.
       Why is sophisticated Mankind not able to interrupt this strange
       behavior by aid of Politics & Politicians? Politicians should
       not only promise to strive for enduring environmental CHANGE at
       each election. They should finally indeed implement effectively
       Measures for promised CHANGE!
       Comprehensive Technical Equipement for Global realisation of
       GREEN economics is already available at promising competitive
       Level. Therefore it`s time for CHANGE if Humans want to SURVIVE,
       because nature is reflecting already Human`s thoughtless
       behaviour in an unfavorable reaction to compensate our FATEFUL
       influence, what will limit the scope considerable for our greedy
       lifestyle and therefore also for economic`s generous revenues in
       near future!
       AND WHY is mankind not able to accept that he is only part of
       Evolution and Not it`s RULER? Up to now science has revealed
       unimaginable interrelations for deeper Insights into viewable
       and invisible kinds of Existences in whole Universe. Not only to
       get amazing Knowledge about these existences, but also to widen
       our cognition for being able to Perceive our Marginal Role in
       this Universe.
       We should learn to be DEVOTED into our marginal being in
       contrast to overwhelming and generous appearance of unique
       Universe. Being Thankful and Compassionate to all beings means
       to recognise our essential Relatedness to all forms of
       appearances in Universe, but specially to those of our precious
       Earth.
       And practising Devotion to our marginal being could make us
       really Great and being generous to all Nature`s Creatures.  This
       devotion could change us to a New Mental existence, feeling
       Spiritual Kinship to nature`s beings, what is finally everything
       what Universe has created since its Big Bang. To be Honestly
       Thankful for all being`s existence let us feel Pure relationship
       to all Universe`s appearances and creates desire for treating
       them Carefully. Awareness of Sentient beings evolved in Dialog
       with Universe`s appearances and relies for its education into
       individual being`s Consciousness furthermore on essential
       Stimulus of ambient outside world.
       Therefore our relationship to all Universe`s appearances is
       evident. If we are tasting our being with all our precious
       Senses and being Thankful for this Great Gift, we really
       practise truthful Devotion and want no more longer ask ourselves
       how great is our role in the face of boundless Universe. This
       means being Aware of our Awareness and creates Loving Attitude.
       Such a mental attitude wants let also disappear borders of
       Religious Denominations. INDEED whole Humankind belongs to one
       and Universal Spirit of LOVE and COMPASSION, so Let us Be
       compassionate and give Love to all Nature`s Creatures.
       Or in other Words & More Clearly: We should Not let RULE our
       EGO, because Ego based Behavior cannot be satisfied and wants
       finally destroy its environment only for short moments of
       feeling Saturated!
       Thank you for your worthy Attention & Efforts. Kindest regards,
       AUSTRIA / Europe.
       Thank you Mr. Puttinger, for making the world a better place!
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       Re: You will have to pick a side. There is no longer Room for Pr
       ocrastination
       By: AGelbert Date: June 19, 2014, 9:49 pm
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       News from yours truly! I am now an "artist"!
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       I can hardly wait ( LOL!) for all the "constructive criticism"
       cautioning me not to quit my day job...  ;)
       
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       />I'm retired so I can't get fired!
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       /> ;D
       At any rate, it's nice to see one of my posters is on the
       "recommended list".
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       And today I submitted my third "art work"  ;D in the service of
       Future Generations.
       [img width=640
       height=480]
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       Drawing the faces of babies is HARD! I spent a full two weeks on
       those simple faces! The baby girl looks like she has gray hair
       because of the resolution but in the proper poster resolution
       (5400 by 3600 pixels) it looks blonde so don't claim I am
       drawing old ladies! The posters are meant to be bold and simple
       so I did not get into various facial details and multiple
       shading for effect. Hey, I'm trying to push Climate Victory
       through Renewable Energy, not paint the Sistene chapel roof, ya
       know!
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       I'll get better. I promise!  [img width=30
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       Who knows, I might even make a little money. [img width=40
       height=40]
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       />
       And if I do (I know, BIG IF!  :() Just remember you knew me when
       I was "undiscovered".  ;D
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       Re: You will have to pick a side. There is no longer Room for Pr
       ocrastination
       By: AGelbert Date: August 23, 2014, 1:46 pm
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       [quote author=Surly1 link=topic=785.msg54233#msg54233
       date=1408804778]
       Images 3 years apart showing the severity of California's
       drought.
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       Parched West Is Using Up Underground Water. "We thought that the
       picture could be pretty bad, but this was shocking."
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       If You Think the Water Crisis Can't Get Worse, Wait Until the
       Aquifers Are Drained We're pumping irreplaceable groundwater to
       counter the drought. When it's gone, the real crisis begins.
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       The Apocalypsi Library at the End of the World: Everything You
       Wanted To Know About Doom.
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       Fukushima Disaster: Inside The World’s Most Dangerous Room
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       Miami and New York City are ground zero in the battle against
       the rising seas
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       Re: You will have to pick a side. There is no longer Room for Pr
       ocrastination
       By: AGelbert Date: November 2, 2014, 12:23 am
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       [font=times new roman]HEBREW NEW TESTAMENT STUDIES
       
       'The camel and the eye of the needle', Matthew 19:24, Mark
       10:25, Luke 18:25
       Just where is that gate in Jerusalem?   ??? "It is easier for a
       camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to
       enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
       For the last two centuries it has been common teaching in Sunday
       School that there is a gate in Jerusalem called the eye of the
       needle through which a camel could not pass unless it stooped
       and first had all its baggage first removed.
       After dark, when the main gates were shut, travellers or
       merchants would have to use this smaller gate, through which the
       camel could only enter unencumbered and crawling on its knees!
       Great sermon material  ;D, with the parallels of coming to God
       on our knees without all our baggage. A lovely story and an
       excellent parable for preaching but unfortunately unfounded!
       From at least the 15th century, and possibly as early as the 9th
       but not earlier, this story has been put forth, however, there
       is no evidence for such a gate, nor record of reprimand of the
       architect who may have forgotten to make a gate big enough for
       the camel and rider to pass through unhindered.
       Variations on this theme include that of ancient inns having
       small entrances to thwart thieves, or the story of an old
       mountain pass known as the "eye of the needle", so narrow that
       merchants would have to dismount from their camels and were thus
       easier prey for brigands lying in wait.
       Mangled Greek maybe?
       There are some differences in the transmitted Greek. The needle
       in Matthew and Mark is a rafic. In Luke it is a belone. But both
       are synonyms for needles used in sewing, but Luke's is more
       likely to be used by a surgeon than a seamstress.
       Another possible solution comes from the possibility of a Greek
       misprint. The suggestion is that the Greek word kamilos
       ('camel') should really be kamêlos, meaning 'cable, rope', as
       some late New Testament manuscripts1 actually have here. Hence
       it is easier to thread a needle with a rope rather than a strand
       of cotton than for a rich man to enter the kingdom. A neat but
       unnecessary solution!
       A variation on all of the above is that the needle was a 6 inch
       carpet needle and the rope was made of camel hair- but this is
       again clutching at straws or camel hair, and is an unnecessary
       emendation.
       Makes sense in Aramaic
       An alternative linguistic explanation is taken from George M
       Lamsa's Syriac-Aramaic Peshitta translation2 which has the word
       'rope' in the main text but a footnote on Matthew 19:24 which
       states that the Aramaic word gamla means rope and camel,
       possibly because the ropes were made from camel hair. Evidence
       for this also comes from the 10th century Aramaic lexicographer
       Mar Bahlul who gives the meaning as a "a large rope used to bind
       ships". (cf.
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       Some have even suggested a pun in Aramaic between camel and gnat
       or louse from the Aramaic kalma 'vermin, louse'.
       Just as the apocryphal Acts of Peter and Andrew3 refers the
       saying to a literal camel and needle, so we are not meant to
       reason away the apparent difficulty of getting a camel through a
       needle's eye. For the difficulty is not apparent it is real, and
       not be solved by textual trickery but by taking the ludicrous
       language at face value.
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       What we have instead then, I believe, is a beautiful Hebrew
       hyperbole, as in the tree sticking out of one's eye whilst one
       is removing a speck in another's eye!
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       Indeed, Jewish Talmudic literature uses a similar aphorism about
       an elephant passing through the eye of a needle as a figure of
       speech implying the unlikely or impossible:
       "They do not show a man a palm tree of gold, nor an elephant
       going through the eye of a needle."4
       This first instance concerned dreams and their interpretation
       and suggested that men only dream that which is natural or
       possible, not that which is unlikely ever to have occurred to
       them.
       "… who can make an elephant pass through the eye of a needle."5
       In this case, the illustration concerns a dispute between two
       rabbis, one of whom suggests that the other is speaking "things
       which are impossible".
       The camel was the largest animal seen regularly in Israel,
       whereas in regions where the Babylonian Talmud was written, the
       elephant was the biggest animal. Thus the aphorism is culturally
       translated from a camel to an elephant in regions outside of
       Israel.
       The aim is not, then, to explain away the paradox and make the
       needle a huge carpet needle for, elsewhere, the Jewish writings
       use the "eye of the needle" as a picture of a very small place,
       "A needle's eye is not too narrow for two friends, but the world
       is not wide enough for two enemies."6 . The ludicrous contrast
       between the small size of the needle's eye and the largest
       indigenous animal is to be preserved for its very improbability.
       Jesus' hearers believed that wealth and prosperity were a sign
       of God's blessing (cf. Leviticus and Deuteronomy). So their
       incredulity is more along the lines that, "if the rich, who must
       be seen as righteous by God by dint of their evident blessing,
       can't be saved, who can be?". Later Christians have turned this
       around to portray wealth as a hindrance to salvation, which it
       can be – but no more so than many other things, when the message
       is that salvation is impossible for all men for it comes from
       God alone.
       [size=14pt]But beyond impossibility is possibility with God for,
       elsewhere, a Jewish midrash records:
       "The Holy One said, open for me a door as big as a needle's eye
       and I will open for you a door through which may enter tents and
       [camels?]"7
       In other words God only needs the sinner to open up just a crack
       for him and God will come pouring in and set up room for an
       oasis. God only needs a 'foot in the door', so to speak. [/size]
       This is similar to the Talmudic use of two Hebrew letters, one
       which represents God holiness ('Q' Qoph, as in qadôsh 'holy')
       and another representing evil ('R' Resh, as in ra' 'evil'), in a
       story told for the purpose of teaching the Hebrew alphabet and
       Jewish morals. It is said that 'q' has a separated opening in
       order that should 'r' repent he may enter into God's holiness
       through the small opening.
       A brief survey of sermons or search on the Internet reveals how
       many perpetuate the myth of the small gate in Jerusalem.
       Victorian travellers to the Holy Land even claim to have been
       shown it. The inaccuracy may appear harmless but it is neither
       good scholarship nor good exposition. The exaggerated and
       contrasted size is deliberate and is not an overt judgement on
       riches or poverty. Jesus reflects on how hard it often is for
       the rich to enter the kingdom of God. The riches are a
       distraction and hard to share if one is too attached to them.
       The disciples' incredulity is that if even the rich cannot be
       saved, who can? But the verdict is that even the poor, not only
       the rich, will find it impossible to save themselves – but with
       God all things are possible.
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       Notes
       Mainly 11th century or later, and in one 9th/10th century
       manuscript, however all early manuscripts and quotations in the
       church fathers from the 3rd through to the 8th centuries have
       'camel' not 'rope'.
       The New Testament according to the Eastern Text, George M Lamsa,
       1940, p.xxiv and note on Matthew 19:24.
       "13 There was a rich man named Onesiphorus who said: If I
       believe, shall I be able to do wonders? Andrew said: Yes, if you
       forsake your wife and all your possessions. He was angry and put
       his garment about Andrew's neck and began to beat him, saying:
       You are a wizard, why should I do so? 14 Peter saw it and told
       him to leave off. He said: I see you are wiser than he. What do
       you say? Peter said: I tell you this: it is easier for a camel
       to go through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the
       kingdom of God. Onesiphorus was yet more angry and took his
       garment off Andrew's neck and cast it on Peter's and haled him
       along, saying: You are worse than the other. If you show me this
       sign, I and the whole city will believe but if not you shall be
       punished. 15 Peter was troubled and stood and prayed: Lord, help
       us at this hour, for thou hast entrapped us by thy words. 16 The
       Saviour appeared in the form of a boy of twelve years, wearing a
       linen garment 'smooth within and without', and said; Fear not:
       let the needle and the camel be brought. There was a huckster in
       the town who had been converted by Philip; and he heard of it,
       and looked for a needle with a large eye, but Peter said:
       Nothing is impossible with God rather bring a needle with a
       small eye. 17 When it was brought, Peter saw a camel coming and
       stuck the needle in the ground and cried: In the name of Jesus
       Christ crucified under Pontius Pilate I command thee, camel, to
       go through the eye of the needle. The eye opened like a gate and
       the camel passed through; and yet again, at Peter's bidding. 18
       Onesiphorus said: You are a great sorcerer: but I shall not
       believe unless I may send for a needle and a camel. And he said
       secretly to a servant: Bring a camel and a needle, and find a
       defiled woman and some swine's flesh and bring them too. And
       Peter heard it in the spirit and said: O slow to believe, bring
       your camel and woman and needle and flesh. 19 When they were
       brought Peter stuck the needle in the ground, with the flesh,
       the woman was on the camel. He commanded it as before, and the
       camel went through, and back again. 20 Onesiphorus cried out,
       convinced and said: Listen. I have lands and vineyards and 27
       litrae of gold and 50 of silver, and many slaves: I will give my
       goods to the poor and free my slaves if I may do a wonders like
       you. Peter said: If you believe, you shall. 21 Yet he was afraid
       he might not be able, because he was not baptized, but a voice
       came: Let him do what he will. So Onesiphorus stood before the
       needle and camel and commanded it to go through and it went as
       far as the neck and stopped. And he asked why. 'Because you are
       not yet baptized.' He was content, and the apostles went to his
       house, and 1,000 souls were baptized that night." (Acts of Peter
       and Andrew vv.14-21, The Apocryphal New Testament, M R James,
       Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1924, p459).
       Babylonian Talmud, Berakoth, 55b
       Babylonian Talmud, Baba Mezi'a, 38b
       Source not traced but cf. Midrash Rabbah, Genesis 1.3
       Midrash Rabbah, The Song of Songs, 5.3; cf. Pesiqta R., 15, ed.
       Friedmann, p.70a; Soncino Zohar, Vayikra 3, p95a
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       Re: You will have to pick a side. There is no longer Room for Pr
       ocrastination
       By: AGelbert Date: November 16, 2014, 6:25 pm
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       The Project Gutenberg EBook of Egocentric Orbit, by John Cory
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       [font=times new roman]EGOCENTRIC ORBIT[/font]
       It took a long time for human beings to accept that our little
       piece of meteoric rubble wasn't the exact and absolute center of
       the Universe. It does appear that way, doesn't it? It may not
       take so long for a spaceman to learn ...
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       By JOHN CORY
       Near the end of his fifteenth orbit as Greenland slipped by
       noiselessly below, he made the routine measurements that tested
       the operation of his space capsule and checked the automatic
       instruments which would transmit their stored data to Earth on
       his next pass over Control. Everything normal; all mechanical
       devices were operating perfectly.
       This information didn't surprise him, in fact, he really didn't
       even think about it. The previous orbits and the long simulated
       flights on Earth during training had made such checks routine
       and perfect results expected. The capsules were developed by
       exhaustive testing both on the ground and as empty satellites
       before entrusting them to carry animals and then the first
       human.
       He returned to contemplation of the panorama passing below and
       above, although as he noted idly, above and below had lost some
       of their usual meaning. Since his capsule, like all heavenly
       bodies, was stable in position with respect to the entire
       universe and, thanks to Sir Isaac Newton and his laws, never
       changed, the Earth and the stars alternated over his head during
       each orbit. "Up" now meant whatever was in the direction of his
       head. He remembered that even during his initial orbit when the
       Earth first appeared overhead he accepted the fact as normal. He
       wondered if the other two had accepted it as easily.
       For there had been two men hurled into orbit before he ventured
       into space. Two others who had also passed the rigorous
       three-year training period and were selected on the basis of
       over-all performance to precede him. He had known them both well
       and wondered again what had happened on their flights. Of
       course, they had both returned, depending upon what your
       definition of return was. The capsules in which they had
       ventured beyond Earth had returned them living. But this was to
       be expected, for even the considerable hazards of descent
       through the atmosphere and the terrible heating which occurred
       were successfully surmounted by the capsule.
       Naturally, it had not been expected that the satellites would
       have to be brought down by command from the ground. But this,
       too, was part of the careful planning—radio control of the
       retro-rockets that move the satellite out of orbit by reducing
       its velocity. Of course, ground control was to be used only if
       the astronaut failed to ignite the retro-rockets himself. He
       remembered everyone's surprise and relief when the first capsule
       was recovered and its occupant found to be alive. They had
       assumed that in spite of all precautions he was dead because he
       had not fired the rockets on the fiftieth orbit and it was
       necessary to bring him down on the sixty-fifth.
       Recovery alive only partially solved the mystery, for the
       rescuers and all others were met by a haughty, stony silence
       from the occupant. Batteries of tests confirmed an early
       diagnosis: complete and utter withdrawal; absolute refusal to
       communicate. Therapy was unsuccessful.
       The second attempt was similar in most respects, except that
       command return was made on the thirty-first orbit after the
       astronaut's failure to de-orbit at the end of the thirtieth. His
       incoherent babble of moons, stars, and worlds was no more
       helpful than the first.
       Test after test confirmed that no obvious organic damage had
       been incurred by exposure outside of the Earth's protective
       atmosphere. Biopsy of even selected brain tissues seemed to show
       that microscopic cellular changes due to prolonged
       weightlessness or primary cosmic-ray bombardment, which had been
       suggested by some authorities, were unimportant. Somewhat
       reluctantly, it was decided to repeat the experiment a third
       time.
       The launching was uneventful. He was sent into space with the
       precision he expected. The experience was exhilarating and,
       although he had anticipated each event in advance, he could not
       possibly have foreseen the overpowering feeling that came over
       him. Weightlessness he had experienced for brief periods during
       training, but nothing could match the heady impression of
       continuous freedom from gravity.
       Earth passing overhead was also to be expected from the simple
       laws of celestial mechanics but his feeling as he watched it now
       was inexpressible. It occurred to him that perhaps this was
       indeed why he was here, because he could appreciate such
       experiences best. He had been told the stars would be bright,
       unblinking, and an infinitude in extent, but could mere
       descriptions or photographs convey the true seeing?
       On his twenty-first orbit he completed his overseeing the entire
       surface of the planet in daylight. He had seen more of Earth
       than anyone able to tell about it, but only he had the true
       feeling of it. The continents were clearly visible, as were the
       oceans and both polar ice caps. The shapes were familiar but in
       only a remote way. A vague indistinctness borne of distance
       served to modify the outlines and he alone was seeing and
       understanding. On the dark side of the planet large cities were
       marked by indistinct light areas which paled to insignificance
       compared to the stars and his sun.
       He speculated about the others who had only briefly experienced
       these sights. Undoubtedly they weren't as capable of fully
       grasping or appreciating any of these things as he was. It was
       quite clear that no one else but he could encompass the towering
       feeling of power and importance generated by being alone in the
       Universe.
       At the end of the twenty-fifth orbit he disabled the radio
       control of the retro-rockets and sat back with satisfaction to
       await the next circuit of his Earth around Him.
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       #Post#: 3135--------------------------------------------------
       Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
       By: guest28 Date: May 15, 2015, 8:11 pm
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       Ah!  I got on here with the Rogue Economist ID!  ;D
       This is not a good time to go walkabout on the Diner AG.
       Go check your messages there.
       RE
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       Re: Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
       By: AGelbert Date: May 15, 2015, 11:22 pm
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       It's never a good time to walkabout. If I start detailing
       EXACTLY what I have observed at the DD for quite some time, I
       will be accused of being over sensitive and so on.
       I'm FED UP with that! I'm FED UP with people insisting on
       keeping their heads shoved firmly up their descending colons.
       I'm fed up with the incredibly high level of DUMB SH IT
       STUBBORNESS and GREED I see among too many diners.
       There is NEVER an apology for the long **** list of gratuitous
       insults directed at me based, not on any silly demands for
       respect by me, but on the evidence I have provided PROVING
       several people WRONG, including you, about Carrying Capacity
       versus Caring Capacity.
       CERTAIN PEOPLE ALWAYS get the kid gloves treatment. I have NEVER
       BEEN ONE OF THEM. IF I "CROSS THE LINE", an apology is DEMANDED
       OF ME or I am given some snarky moronic swipe by one of the
       ADMINS like EDDIE OR SURLY who think they are SO CUTE playing at
       clever SNIPING.
       **** MONSTA! **** KARPATOCK! **** PALLOY! **** SNOWLEAPARD! ****
       EDDIE! **** GOLDEN OXEN and **** UB on his LIBERTARIAN HORSESHIT
       TOO!
       I AM SICK OF THEIR NARROW MINDEDNESS, DUPLICITY AND STUPIDITY!
       Everything is GOING SOUTH on this planet anyway so I guess they
       are just more WATER MOLECULES in the DESTRUCTIVE EVIL WAVE THEY
       ARE PART OF (that they fancy themselves apart from due to their
       feverish, wishful thinking, self glorifying imaginations and
       egocentric world view).
       My health is starting to be affected by this. I DO NOT NEED the
       AGGRAVATION. Let em' USE SOMEBODY ELSE FOR A PUNCHING BAG!
       And as I told Surly and JD, ALL my posts here are public
       property. If anybody wants my STUFF over there, they can get off
       their fat asses and copy it here and post it on my channel. I'm
       an old man. I'm a sick old man. I am TIRED of dealing with
       EMPATHY CHALLENGED HOMO SAPS.
       YOU want to live. Good for you. I DON'T. I'm just here to keep
       my wife clothed and fed. Going over to the DD to get my ass
       kicked WILL NOT extend my life. That may make MY DAY but it will
       SHAFT my wife. And even if you read everybody there the riot act
       (WHICH I KNOW WON'T DO) so they wouldn't mess with the salt
       water ****'s tender sensibilities, THAT wouldn't work for me
       either.
       I expect people to READ what is written and BACK THE FORK OFF if
       I prove them wrong. If YOU have to be the referee to keep the
       insults and sniping off my back, THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO BE
       THERE. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE FACTS. THEY ARE NOT
       INTERESTED IN QUESTIONING THEIR WORLD VIEW. LOCKING MY CHANNEL
       IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
       THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AFFIRMATION OF THEIR EGOCENTRIC BALONEY AND
       GET HIGHLY DISTURBED WHEN SOMEONE CHALLENGES THEIR TENDER
       SENSIBILITIES AND REVEALS WHAT A BUNCH OF BRAIN DEAD
       NARCISSISTIC BIGOTS THEY ARE.
       I am not popular with most diners, despite the view count (or
       MAYBE BECAUSE OF IT!) on my channel. That, I understand.
       But senseless, repetitive arguments over the same tired
       egocentric plethora of allegedly "practical" (see apex predators
       'R' us) solutions to daily living are a WASTE OF TIME,
       ESPECIALLY when the sniping and sarcastic potshots are born of
       empathy challenged worship of materialism.
       
       So, I have to DO what I HAVE TO DO to survive in this HELL for
       as long as possible.
       Go ahead, copy and post this post (without this sentence - they
       will play nice instead  ;)) on the DD so you can SEE how the DD
       CROWD OF SELF LOVING EGOMANIACS collectively proclaim "Good
       riddance to bad rubbish!" IN CODE. That CODE will be LIKE THIS:
       Gee, I just can't imagine what got into Agelbert... We have
       always been so respectful and gentlemanly in our dialog with
       him.  ;)  ;D
       This will be followed by a veritable explosion of polite
       discourse between the miscreants to prove what "gentlemen" (and
       lady -Karpatok will, no doubt, join in) they are.  [img width=80
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       They all are human and all have the option to be as stupid and
       egocentric as they wish. But I will no longer pretend that THEIR
       world view is not BASCIALLY EGOCENTRIC. RE, I have NEVER enjoyed
       the company of empathy challenged lovers of themselves. And I
       NEVER WILL.
       May God have mercy on them and bring them to everlasting life.
       But I'm too tired, sick and beat to continue talking to
       egocentric walls.
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       Re: Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
       By: AGelbert Date: May 16, 2015, 1:20 pm
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       Agelbert NOTE: Please observe how many Doomstead Diners were
       raised. Good old Doctor Spock helped an entire country go
       NARCISSIST. The results are EVIDENT.  >:(
       How Parents Turn Their Children Into Narcissists
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       Creating narcissists: the parental behaviour that convinces
       children they are better than other people.
       Parents turn their children into little narcissists by
       overvaluing them, a new study finds.
       It is better to concentrate on being emotionally warm towards
       children — this leads to higher self-esteem, not narcissism.
       [quote]Professor Brad Bushman, one of the study’s authors, said:
       “Children believe it when their parents tell them that they are
       more special than others.
       That may not be good for them or for society.”
       [/quote] The study is the first of its kind to follow children
       over time to examine how narcissists evolve.
       The researchers followed 565 children in the Netherlands who
       were between 7 and 11 when the study started. This is the
       critical age when narcissists emerge.
       
       The children were tested for typical personality traits of
       narcissists, like thinking you are better than other people. The
       children’s parents were also asked about their children.
       Professor Bushman explained that his research had changed his
       own parenting style:
       “When I first started doing this research in the 1990s, I used
       to think my children should be treated like they were
       extra-special. I’m careful not to do that now. It is important
       to express warmth to your children because that may promote
       self-esteem, but overvaluing them may promote higher
       narcissism.”
       Creating little narcissists
       A previous study by the same researchers caught out parents who
       overvalued their children. They were asked if their children
       knew about “Queen Alberta” and “The Tale of Benson Bunny.”
       Although both were made up by the researchers, some parents
       claimed their children knew all about them.
       Eddie Brummelman, who co-authored the study, said: “Overvaluing
       parents tended to claim that their child had knowledge of many
       different topics – even these nonexistent ones.”
       Of course overvaluing children is not the only cause of
       narcissism, there are also genetic and other environmental
       factors. “Some children may be more likely than others to become
       narcissistic when their parents overvalue them.”
       Mr Brummelman thinks the study suggests a practical way of
       helping parents:
       “Parent training interventions can, for example, teach parents
       to express affection and appreciation toward children without
       telling children that they are superior to others or entitled to
       privileges.”
       The study was published in the Proceedings of the National
       Academy of Sciences (Brummelman et al., 2015).
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       Renewable Revolution RSS Feed
       By: guest28 Date: May 20, 2015, 10:43 pm
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       AG, for some reason the RSS Feed from Renewable Revolution isn't
       working in the Widget on the Diner.
       You might want to look into it.
       RE
       #Post#: 3181--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
       By: AGelbert Date: May 21, 2015, 1:52 pm
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       [quote author=Rogue Economist link=topic=199.msg3180#msg3180
       date=1432179820]
       AG, for some reason the RSS Feed from Renewable Revolution isn't
       working in the Widget on the Diner.
       You might want to look into it.
       RE
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       RE,
       Don't worry about me or my forum views. My Lord/Boss/Friend will
       provide.
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