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       What A Nuclear Power Plant REALLY IS
       By: AGelbert Date: October 25, 2013, 8:56 pm
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       "I Want You to Know What a Nuclear Power Plant Is"
       by Yasuo Akai
       About 5 years ago, I was giving a lecture in Hokkaido. When I
       said we must keep cooling down the waste for 50 years, and then
       monitoring it for 300 years, a junior high school girl
       interrupted me and cried, “who will do it? You say it will take
       50 or 300 years. You adults cannot do it. It’s our generation
       and the next generations who will do it. But we don’t want to do
       it!” Which of us adults can find an answer for her?
       Moreover, it is not just about 50, or 300 years. So long as
       nuclear power plants are in operation,those years may never
       come.
       Nearby residents are exposed to radiation and discriminated
       against.
       The government and the industry have kept lying to us for
       decades, saying that no radioactive materials have ever been
       leaked by Japan’s nuclear power plants. They can no longer doso.
       Radioactive materials are disgorged from the tall cooling towers
       intentionally. Radioactive materials are spewed constantly, so
       those nearby residents are constantly exposed to radiation.
       A 23-year-old woman wrote to me, her letter appeared to be
       smudged by tears. It went like this, “I began my career and met
       a man in Tokyo. We were engaged, and our families met and
       exchanged engagement gifts. But this man has suddenly broken our
       engagement. He says that nothing is wrong with me and he wanted
       to marry me, but his parents were worried because Ihad lived in
       Tsuruga City for more than 10 years. As children near the
       nuclear power plant tend to be born with leukemia, they were
       afraid that they would have a grandchild with leukemia. His
       parents do not agree with him. What’s wrong with me?” Of course,
       there is nothing wrong with her. I sometimes hear these kinds of
       stories.
       This happened in Tokyo, but not in some of the areas near the
       plants. Frankly, are you happy if your daughter marries a
       nuclear power plant worker? Or, would you want to marry such a
       worker? I know that it is insensitive to say this, that it is
       discrimination. But I argue that we must talk about these kinds
       of stories. Those standing opposed to nuclear power plants
       should say that they are not only protesting because horrible
       accidents can occur, but also because it causes discrimination.
       These nuclear power plants are also destroying our minds.
       Can I have a baby? I don’t care about electricity. I hate the
       nuclear power plant.
       I am going to talk about a story about what happened during my
       lecture hosted by the Teachers Union in Kyowa Town, which was
       located near the Tomari Nuclear Power Plant in Hokkaido. I ask
       that you remember this sometime; you can forget the rest.
       The meeting took place in the evening. Half of the audience were
       parents, and the other half was made up of teachers, but some
       high school and junior high school students also showed up. They
       did not take a view such that nuclear power plants were only an
       adult problem, butrather their problem as well.Finishing my
       talk, I took some questions. An 8 grade girl, crying, spoke to
       us, “you adults are liars, hypocrites. I came here to face you
       all. I wanted to know who you are. You say you are against
       pesticides, golf courses, and nuclear power plants. You say you
       do so for your children. I’m sure you’re just pretending to act
       against all this.
       I live in Kyowa Town, near the Tomari nuclear power plant, and
       I’ve been exposed to radiation. The ratio of babies with
       leukemia is higher around nuclear facilities in Sellafield,
       England, than in other places. I know this because I read a
       book. I’m a girl, and I will probably marry someday. Is it ok
       for me to have a baby?” No one had an answer for her.
       “If a nuclear power plant is that horrible, why didn’t you all
       go against it more seriously when they started building it? You
       even allowed them to build a No. 2 reactor. I don’t care about
       electricity. I hate the nuclear power plant.” The No. 2 reactor
       of the Tomari Nuclear Power Planthad just been put into
       operational testing.“For what reason are you meeting here? If I
       was an adult and I had a baby, I’d use violence to stop it. I
       wouldn’t hesitate to risk my own life.
       “The radiation I’m exposed to is now doubled because of this
       second reactor, but I won’t leave Hokkaido.”
       I asked her if she had ever talked about her anxiety to her
       mother or teacher. “My mother andteacher are here now, but I’ve
       never brought this up before,” she said. “We girls always talk
       about this. We can’t marry. We can’t have a baby.”
       I was told that their teachers did not know that they thought
       this way. An evacuation drill for residents living within 8 or
       10-kilometer radius will not solve this anxiety. People 50, or
       100 kilometres away from a nuclear power plant are also anxious.
       You should know that adolescents react to this anxiety vividly.
       As long as there are nuclear power plants, we do not feel safe.
       Now you know what nuclear power plant is.
       You might have heard of the horror of the Chernobyl Accident and
       felt a little anxious. Yet, you may still think we still need
       those nuclear power plants, that without them we would have
       anelectricity shortage. It is especially those who live in
       cities, distanced from these plants, whomight still view them as
       a necessary evil.
       However, that is because you were always told by the government
       and the electric power companies about the “peaceful use of
       nuclear power,” that it is “absolutely safe,” and that “Japan
       has no natural resources.”
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       />They spend huge amount of money for this propaganda.
       They hide, for example, the Monju Accident.
       The nuclear power plants generate electricity, but the thing is
       that they cannot work without exposing plant workers to
       radiation. That is what I have seen and experienced for 20
       years. Moreover, nuclear power plants destroy local communities.
       When one is built, it divides the residents into two camps, and
       when it is put into operation, it exposes those residents to
       radiation and opens innocent people up to discrimination.
       You may know that a nuclear power plant can cause a horrible
       accident and still think that it is really safe, that everything
       will be fine. You may agree with the possibility of peaceful
       uses for nuclear power. But think about this: the workers are
       dying of exposure and the residents are suffering—you cannot
       call this peaceful use.
       Even if it was safe, you could not feel safe. You can never feel
       safe as long as it exists. Moreover at this moment, nuclear
       power plants appear to generate electricity. However, in order
       to manage radioactive waste for tens of thousands of years, it
       needs much more electricity and oil. The energy needed to manage
       that waste must be higher than the energy that the plants have
       been generating. Additionally, it will be our children and
       grandchildren who manage thewaste and the closed reactors.
       How can you say that this is peaceful use of nuclear power? I
       repeat. There is never a peaceful use.
       Therefore I ask you; please look at the face of your children
       and grandchildren every morning and ask yourself, why. Why is
       only Japan still building nuclear power plants? There are
       accidents, and earthquakes. If we do not act now, irreversible
       damage will be done, you must see this.
       So I am acting against these nuclear power plants. I am
       absolutely against building new ones,and I argue that those
       plants in operation must be stopped.
       As long as those nuclear power plants exist, there is no peace.
       A peaceful planet for children
       [move][I]Translator’s note:The original text (in Japanese) is
       here:
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       AI/pageall.html This site says the
       author Norio Hirai was an engineer specializing in plant
       pipeline, and died in January, 1997. Translated by Yasuo Akai --
       revised by Jayda Fogel [/I][/move]
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       Re: What A Nuclear Power Plant REALLY IS
       By: AGelbert Date: October 29, 2013, 10:03 pm
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       [quote] More Mutations in Fukushima Butterflies
       Researchers have found an increase in butterflies with unusual
       wing shapes, legs, and antennae than before the nuclear
       disaster.[/quote]
       Source: International Science Times
       
       
       [quote] Butterflies collected from sites near Fukushima 2 months
       after the power plant leaked radiation into the environment
       showed more than double the mutation rates of butterflies
       collected from other sites in Japan. The researchers, who hail
       from University of the Ryukyus, Okinawa, reported their findings
       last week (August 9) in Scientific Reports.
       Indeed, each subsequent generation arising from the first
       radiation-affected butterflies had more severe physical
       abnormalities than its parent generation. Part of this can be
       explained by the passing down of damaged genes, but an
       additional factor, the researchers say, was that butterflies ate
       contaminated food in the area, which can be more damaging than
       external exposure.
       “It has been believed that insects are very resistant to
       radiation,” lead researcher Joji Otaki from the University of
       the Ryukyus, Okinawa, told BBC News. “In that sense, our results
       were unexpected.”[/quote]
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       Right! The negative stuff is ALWAYS "unexpected". Sure. NOT!
       It's true that mammals are more affected because they have more
       easily disrupted DNA but insects are considered just as
       susceptible as mamals to increased mutations from generation to
       generation. This has been conclusively proven for more than 70
       YEARS! Drosphila melanogastor (the fruit fly) is one of
       science's pet torture specimens.
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       Drosophila melanogaster
       They breed rapidly and genetic effects can be studied for
       several generations in a brief time period. Scientists love to
       experment with them. They are cheap and its easy to keep a
       control group and monitor statistically valid populations for
       peer review publication requirements.
       [quote]For purposes of assessing the risks of environmental
       exposure to radionuclide emissions, the genetic effects and in
       utero developmental effects are the only health hazards other
       than cancer that are addressed in this Background Information
       Document (BID) ,
       6.5.1 Types of Genetic Harm and Duration of Expression
       Genetic harm (or the genetic effects) of radiation exposure is
       defined as stable, heritable changes induced in the germ cells
       (eggs or sperm) of exposed individuals, which are transmitted to
       and expressed only in their progeny and in future
       generations,[/quote]
       [quote][size=12pt]Chromosomal damage and mutations have been
       demonstrated in cells in culture, in plants, in insects, and in
       mammals (UNSCEAR72,77,82), and in peripheral blood lymphocytes
       sf persons exposed to radiation (UNSCEAR82, Ev79, Po78)
       ,[/quote]
       [quote]Early experiimental studies showed that x-radiation is
       mutagenic, In 1927, R.J, Muller reported radiation-induced
       genetic changes in animals, and in 1928, L-J. Stadler reported
       such changes in piants (Ki62j.
       Although genetic studies were carried out in the 1930s, mostly
       in plants and fruit flies (Drosophila), the studies on mammals
       started after the use of nuclear weapons in World War II
       (UNSCEAR58).[/quote]
       Gamma radiation is more powerful than x-rays so it was a
       nobrainer even BEFORE  the bomb that radionuclides would be
       multigenerationally mutagenic.
       I hate it when scientists play dumb. >:(
       [quote]In 1927, H.J. Muller described x-rayinduced mutations in
       animals (in the insect, Drosophila), and in 1928, L.J, Stadler
       reported a similar finding in plants (Ki62).
       At about the same time, radiation effects on the developing
       human embryo were observed. Case reports in 1929 showed a high
       rate of microcephaly (small head size) and central nervous
       system disturbance and one case of skeletal defects in children
       irradiated in utero (UNSCEAR69).
       These effects, at unrecorded but high exposures and at generally
       unrecorded gestational ages, appeared to produce central nervous
       system and eye defects similar to those reported in rats as
       early as 1922 (Xu50)-[/quote]
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       [font=verdana]Unexpected?  ???[I] NO WAY!
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       Nuclear Energy Verdict: Ridiculously Expensive
       By: AGelbert Date: November 9, 2013, 1:30 pm
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       Nuclear Energy Verdict: Very Disappointing  :P
       by Giles Parkinson
       The story we published on Friday comparing the costs of new
       nuclear, now that they have been defined by contract signed by
       the UK Government for the construction of the $24 billion
       Hinkley C facility – with clean energy alternatives such as wind
       and solar, certainly generated a lot of interest, and comment.
       Since then, we have received an analysis from Deutsche Bank,
       which makes some other observations about the cost of nuclear,
       the comparisons with gas, the price of abatement, and the cost
       of upkeep for France’s existing fleet.
       The first point made by Deutsche is that this deal underlines
       the fact that nuclear is not cheap, but really, really expensive
       – a point that should not be forgotten in Australia, where there
       is still a push for nuclear in some quarters despite the
       abundant alternatives (in particular solar) that are not
       available to the UK.
       As we have noted in the other article, the £92.50/MWh strike
       price is nearly double the current average cost of generation in
       the UK. Deutsche takes issue with the UK government’s claim that
       the contract is “competitive with other large-scale clean energy
       and with gas’.  It notes that this contract would only be
       cheaper than gas generation if the crude oil price (to which UK
       gas is linked) averages more than $150 barrel in real terms over
       the next 40 years. This, says Deutsche Bank, is around 3 times
       the average oil price over the last 40 years, and a 50 per cent
       premium to the average oil price over the last 5 years.
       “Such comparisons do not show that this nuclear contract will be
       more expensive than gas generation (in 40 years), since
       conditions in the future may be very different from those of the
       past,” the Deutsche analysts write. “ However it does
       demonstrate that signing the proposed nuclear contract would
       commit the UK to buying electricity which would be expensive by
       historic standards.” It later describes the 35 year contract as
       “a poor trade for reducing risk.”
       Then Deutsche Bank looks at the carbon cost of nuclear. It
       calculates that if the oil price were to remain at the current
       level of $100/barrel (in real terms), the cost of gas generation
       would be around £68/MWh (before paying for carbon emissions).
       Taking into account the amount of carbon emissions saved and the
       extra generation costs of nuclear, the nuclear generation comes
       at an implied cost of £65/tonne of carbon dioxide saved.
       It notes that this carbon cost is more than ten times higher
       than the current traded price of carbon emissions in the EU ETS,
       is roughly twice the targeted level of the UK carbon price floor
       in 2020 set out by the Treasury in December 2011 (£30/tonne in
       2009 prices), although it is less than the  £70/tonne price
       floor envisaged in 2030.
       It says that nuclear is only justified in the UK if the
       government is serious about largely decarbonising the
       electricity grid by 2030, as has been canvassed by the UK’s
       Climate Change Council – the UK equivalent of the Climate Change
       Authority that Tony Abbott wants to disband. Deutsche notes that
       it does not meet UK’s short term needs to meet its 2020, which
       likely be met with more wind and biomass.
       The CCC envisaged several scenarios to cut the UK’s carbon
       emissions to 50g/CO2-eMWh by 2030. The first scenario, see graph
       below, envisages 18GW of new nuclear. Deutsche Bank says this
       would require 5 more new nuclear facilities the size of Hinkley
       to be built within 16 years – not  only is such a target “hugely
       ambitious”, Deutsche says it would still be “not be nearly
       enough in itself to meet such a decarbonisation target.”
       The UK would need at least as much wind generation as nuclear,
       and  some low-carbon flexible generation. Deutsche also notes
       that CCS is highly ambitious, as the technology is not proven,
       which leaves the most likely scenarios as being high renewables,
       or high energy efficiency, both of which leave wind and other
       renewables providing more than 50 per cent of the UK’s
       generation by 2030.
       And just in case anyone feels like arguing that it is just
       new-build and new generation nuclear that is costly, this graph
       below ([color=purple]at article link) should blow a few
       misconceptions.[/color]
       It’s another from the Deutsche Bank team, and it shows the
       estimated capital expenditure requirement for the EdF fleet of
       nuclear reactors in France. Note that it is significantly higher
       than the original cost of the reactors in the 1970s and 1980s.
       Deutsche Bank says consumer electricity prices are being jacked
       up to meet some of that cost, but it estimates that EdF will
       need to spend €55 billion ($79 billion), a situation that will
       leave it in a cash-flow negative situation (It already has an
       €85 billion debt :P).
       As Deutche Bank noted, any investment in new reactors would need
       to be funded on top of the refurbishment budget. Given that it
       is already cash-flow negative and has such a huge debt, few
       people have any clue how that could possibly be done. Which is
       why EdF’s major shareholder, the French government, is looking
       to reduce the share of nuclear in France’s generation to around
       50 per cent from more than 70 per cent, and intends to fill that
       hole with (cheaper) renewables.
       Still, Deutsche Bank notes that EdF has effectively handballed
       the risk of new nuclear to consumer and the UK government. The
       consumer is picking up the tab through higher electricity bills,
       and the UK government is using taxpayers money to guarantee 65
       per cent of the project cost.  With the involvement of Chinese
       nuclear interests, that leaves EdF with an exposure of just £3.5
       billion
       Giles Parkinson is the founding editor of RenewEconomy.com.au,
       an Australian-based website that provides news and analysis on
       cleantech, carbon, and climate issues. Giles is based in Sydney
       and is watching the (slow, but quickening) transformation of
       Australia's energy grid with great interest.[/I]
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       [i]Agelbert NOTE:[I]The really weird thing abut nuclear power
       plants is that the MORE YOU PAY  to build and run these poison
       energy factories, the more CANCER CLUSTERS you have. No wonder
       the big cancer research centers just love NUCLEAR MEDICINE!
       Nuclear power plants assure a continued stream of costumers for
       RADIATION THERAPY. It's a conscience free predator's dream
       "business" model (they get the money and you get the "business"
       &#128520;).
       
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       THIS is what a human MUTATION Caused by Chernobyl cesium-137 loo
       ks like.
       By: AGelbert Date: November 22, 2013, 11:32 pm
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       [move][I]And Fukushima will bring MORE and MORE because it takes
       about 300 YEARS for ALL the cesium-137 to spread all over the
       planet since they started the atomic explosions to "HELP EVOLVE"
       our species.[/I][/move]
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       Deleterious effects of Nuclear power on the biosphere.
       By: AGelbert Date: November 24, 2013, 5:15 pm
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       I am engaged in a small dust up in regard to the deleterious
       effects of Nuclear power on the planet in general and our
       species in particular. Here's an update of the give and take.
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       [center]Poland Builds Electronic Wall To Keep Out German
       Renewables[/center]
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       width=60]
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       Guest
       Poland should really consider nuclear energy, now that time is
       running out.  Building solar panels is a joke in sun scarce
       Poland, and wind alone isn't going to fill the gap.
       
       1 &#9651;  3 &#9661;
       Agelbert>Guest
       Here's  what nuclear energy has done to "accelerate" the
       "evolution" of Humans thanks to the 300 year "gift" that
       Pandora's Nuclear Box just keeps [I]giving and giving.[/I]
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       RobertPPruitt > agelbert
       Just so you know, coal power plants release 100 times more
       radioactive material into the air
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       /> when burned(mostly uranium thorium and polonium . This settle
       s
       into all our water and soil, and coal has been burning a LOT
       longer and there are LOT more of them than Nuclear plants.
       A few releases of radiation from nuclear accidents is no match
       for the amount of radiation we have pumped into our food, water
       supply, and our bodies from coal for all these many
       decades....not by a long shot.
       But most modern plants do catch most of it now, but the damage
       has been done.
       Oh, and don't forget the radon gas that is almost completely
       released into the air....good stuff
       Agelbert>RobertPPruitt
       Just so [I] you know![/I], There has never been a case of a
       severely muted human baby from people that live in coal country.
       And coal is a false comparison anyway! Was that in your
       propaganda 101 course to always try say "coal " is worse as if
       we have either coal or nuclear?
       Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same low IQ propaganda
       lies? Do you understand how Cesium-137 is immediately taken up
       in all the muscle tissue of mammals because our biochemistry
       believes it is the much needed nutrient called Potassium?
       I guess not. You will reap what you have sown. Count on it. Have
       a nice day.
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       RobertPPruitt > agelbert
       Oh I know exactly how bad it is. [img
       width=40]
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       />I also know that the CDC and WHO traveled the world examining
       bodies and came up with somewhere in the neighborhood of 3
       MILLION people die in the world EVERY year from the affects of
       pollution. Of which a very large percentage comes from coal.
       I don't care if the Japanese packed up and walked away from
       Fukushima today and never went back it would never reach the
       yearly death toll that coal has. Coal just isn't considered as
       dangerous because it doesn't cause the visible affects that
       radiation can. Does not make it safer, not by a long shot.
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       If 3 million are dying yearly, just imagine what it is doing to
       EVERY human it doesn't kill. Also before coal was in widespread
       use for home heating cancer was actually pretty rare in the
       world. And chimney sweeps(coal not wood) were the first to
       develop occupational cancer, (of the scrotum no less) in the
       mid-late 1700's. After that cancer began a steady rise. I know
       of no study that links a rise in world wide cancers to nuclear
       plants coming online, or even enough of a local rise where
       nuclear accidents have happened to even panic over when compared
       to the overall cancer rates.
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       In 2006 Greenpeace(and we know what they're full of)
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       released a report
       from 52 "respected" scientists on the affects of Chernobyl and
       even they found that less than 200,000 extra deaths could be
       attributed to Chernobyl in what? 15 or so years? Way over 7
       MILLION people die every year from cancer. Even that retarded
       organizations inflated numbers(always about everything) barely
       amount to a statistical anomaly. Fukushima is going to have to
       be MUCH more deadly to have any kind of real impact on cancer
       rates. But we know for a fact that coal has killed many many
       millions of people around the world.
       But yes, we would do well to get rid of both nuclear and coal.
       But based on the science and deaths, coal needs to be gotten rid
       of first, and the sooner the better, since it's affects will
       likely last for many generations to come.
       Agelbert>RobertPPruitt
       "But yes, we[s]  would do well to [/s]  [I]must[/I] get rid of
       both nuclear and coal."
       Agreed. [img
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       But you fail to recognize the nuclear corruption rabbit hole in
       regard to the  [I]Agreement [/I] the WHO has with the IAEA to
       [I]not publish any epidemiological study of cancer clusters
       around nuclear power plants, [/i]internal organ damaging
       radionuclide dosage differences in DNA destruction far below the
       IAEA "safe" dosage levels for radionuclides in food, and much
       more that has contributed to the deaths of over 8 million human
       beings since Chernobyl [I]alone![/I]
       WHO has been hamstrung by the IAEA for over half a century! Do
       the math. If the "horror" of coal was so much worse than
       nuclear, [I]why[/I] has the WHO been gagged by the IAEA but not
       by king coal?
       Take just 8 minutes of your time and watch this French video
       with English subtitles. Learn the truth. Then look at this map
       of Cesium-137 deposition in the USA <b>before</b> Fukushima.
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       It's much worse now and cesium-137 does not exist in nature. Do
       you think our cancer rate went from one in ten in the 1950s to
       one in three now because of coal? Coal is much more "profitable"
       than nuclear power but only the nuke pukes could muzzle the WHO.
       [I] Why?[/I] Because if the truth was known, all nuclear power
       plants would be forced to close, period. You stated that "WAY
       over 7 million people die a year of cancer". Well, guess what?
       The [I] increase in cancer rate on the planet is directly
       proportional to the amount of Cesium-137 (and some other
       radionuclides poison deposition) and inversely proportional to
       the distance from nuclear power plants![/I]
       It was never about cheap electricity. It was always about making
       plutonium for bombs off the public dime and to hell with the DNA
       destruction of children and population cancer clusters. The
       nuclear industry, like the fossil fuel industry, externalized
       the health costs that have degraded human DNA in order to make
       bombs and some money. You do not get more low down than that!
       You have no idea whatsoever about the massive damage already
       baked into our DNA from this nuclear monstrosity. Both fossil
       fuel burning and nuclear fission must be ended if we are to
       survive on this planet. The more immediate danger is nuclear.
       Watch the video and do the research on the cruel, conscience
       free "agreement" between the WHO and IAEA that has done
       uncountable damage to Homo sapiens for the sake of nuclear
       profits.
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       Out of about 8,000 people at the WHO, [b]two were assigned to
       work on radionuclide effects and safe dosages! That's criminal
       insanity!
       Chernobyl and Fukushima Cesium-137 deposition maps.
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       How Much of Worldwide Disease Is Preventable?
       By: AGelbert Date: November 24, 2013, 9:24 pm
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       How Much of Worldwide Disease Is Preventable?
       About one-fourth of all instances of disease are preventable and
       caused by environmental factors that could be changed, health
       experts say. Children are even more affected by diseases caused
       by environmental factors, with about one-third of all instances
       of disease being preventable in children younger than 5 years
       old.
       It is estimated that about 13 million lives could be saved every
       year if precautions were taken to better manage environments.
       The main preventable worldwide diseases are diarrhea, malaria,
       lower respiratory infections and accidental injuries. These
       could be reduced by improved hygiene with water storage and
       handling of toxic substances, cleaner fuel usage and improved
       building safety.
       More about preventable diseases:
       The leading factors of diseases in the US are poor diet, lack of
       exercise, tobacco use and excessive alcohol consumption.
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       More than 90% of diarrhea-related conditions could be prevented
       by improving unsafe water supplies.
       Nearly 3 million deaths each year are from cardiovascular
       diseases, which can be prevented in certain cases. This is
       nearly twice the amount of deaths from cancer.
       Agelbert comment (I am Gelbert46 on WiseGeek):
       The article is incorrect.  Nearly 7 million people die each year
       of cancer. One in 10 humans were expected to get cancer in the
       1950s. Thanks to nuclear power plant and atomic explosion
       Cesium-137 deposition throughout the globe, one in THREE people
       will get cancer.
       The corrected sentence in the article, if the WHO (world Health
       Organization) wasn't prevented from telling the truth about
       radionuclide caused cancers by the IAEA, would be this:
       [move]The main preventable worldwide deadly diseases are all
       types of cancers. The rapid increase in the global cancer
       epidemic (one in three will get cancer in their lifetime) is
       caused by Cesium-137 planetary deposition from nuclear
       explosions and nuclear power plant radionuclide environmental
       contamination.  >:([/move].
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       And about that "background radiation" that we are all supposed
       to have "evolved" to live under...
       Most “Background Radiation” Didn’t Exist Before Nuclear Weapons
       Testing and Nuclear Reactors
       Nuke pukes claim that we get a higher exposure from background
       radiation (when we fly, for example) or x-rays then we get from
       nuclear accidents.
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       [color=blue]There was exactly zero background radioactive
       cesium or iodine before above-ground nuclear testing and nuclear
       accidents started.
       Cesium-137 is unique in that it is totally anthropogenic. Unlike
       most other radioisotopes, cesium-137 is not produced from its
       non-radioactive isotope, but from uranium. It did not occur in
       nature before nuclear weapons testing began.
       Fukushima has spewed much more radioactive cesium and iodine
       than Chernobyl. The amount of radioactive cesium released by
       Fukushima was some 20-30 times higher than initially admitted.
       And the cesium levels hitting the west coast of North America
       will keep increasing for several years. Fukushima is spewing
       more and more radiation into the environment, and the amount of
       radioactive fuel at Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl.
       As such, the concept of “background radiation” is largely Nuke
       Puke disinformation Bull****.  :P  Most of the radiation we
       encounter today,  especially the most dangerous types,  did not
       even exist in nature before we started tinkering with nuclear
       weapons and reactors.
       We have been lied to big time. Pass it on.
       We all know that radionuclides cause genetic mutations and
       severe birth defects.
       But most people are unaware of the fact that, due to the
       UBIQUITY of Cesium-137 in our environment, MOST of the cancers
       today and much of the cardiovascular disease as well as ANY soft
       tissue muscle related diseases are also caused by radionuclides
       that destroy both smooth and striated muscles. That means, the
       heart, the blood vessels, the intestines, the stomach lining,
       the lungs and every muscle in your body.
       Cesium-137 goes EVERYWERE because your body thinks it is
       Potassium. Lodged in the heart muscle it begins to atrophy it.
       It happens more or less according to muscle mass location and
       activity. A doctor in Russia in the 1990s discovered Cesium-137
       caused heart abnormalities in small animals, then in human
       children. He was put in prison for publishing his study.  ???
       Neither the government of Russia or out Government CARES what
       radionuclides are doing to most humans. We have to MAKE THEM
       CLOSE THE NCLEAR POWER PLANTS by letting everyone know what is
       really happening out there. And if you think the elite aren't
       making sure THEIR food isn't contaminated, you are kidding
       yourself!
       We have to kill nuclear power or it will kill us. As it is many
       of us are already doomed because we have been exposed to too
       much Cesium-137 in our food or because we have lived too near a
       nuclear power plant.  >:( Pass it on.
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       &quot;Spent&quot; Nuclear Fuel  Pools
       By: AGelbert Date: July 29, 2021, 3:06 pm
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       We have no good solution to the problem of storing nuclear
       waste.  It must be cooled in spent fuel pools for 5-10 years
       before it can be moved to dry cask storage.  During that time,
       it is still dangerous. #PaulBlanch investigated what can happen
       in various scenarios, and warns of inadequate protection of this
       potentially explosive &#128163; material.
       This conversation recorded in April 2021.
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