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Landmark Legislation Could Put Geothermal Back on Track for Cali
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By: AGelbert Date: June 9, 2014, 2:08 pm
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Landmark Legislation Could Put Geothermal Back on Track for
California
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A. G. Gelbert
June 9, 2014
I have often argued that all the current infrastructure in a
nuclear power plant, minus the problems of radionuclide
contamination and excessive embrittlement and corrosion of
pipes, valves and pumps, is made to order, and will have a much
increased MTBF since it is already designed to handle 600
degrees Centigrade steam making, if it is used to run a
geothermal power plant instead. Of course you have the cost of
reaching the source geothermal heat with piping deep into the
ground, but those costs are insignificant compared with the
costs and dangers to the environment of nuclear power plants.
Let's take those giant steam turbines out of the nuclear power
plants and put them to work in geothermal power plants. It will
save us millions of dollars and provide another nail in the
coffin of dirty energy sources from fossil and nuclear fuels.
We could even get the nuclear power plant operators to go along
with it by incentivizing them to switch to geothermal with
government aid in the decommissioning of the nuclear power
poison white elephants.
If we want our children to have a chance to live by regaining
human harmony with the biosphere, we must strive to achieve the
total demand destruction of fossil and nuclear fuels.
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it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the
Earth from our Ancestors; we borrow it from our Children.
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Civilitas successit barbarum
Ubi Jus Ibi Remedium: Equity sees that as done what ought to be
done - Equity will not suffer a wrong to be without a remedy
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2014, 2:18 pm
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[center]Excess Water from Iceland Geothermal Plant Source of
Thriving Spa Business ;D[/center]
Alexander Richter
July 01, 2014
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Also, the nuclear power plant polluting white elephant advocates
are always silent as tombs about the FACT that the nuclear power
plant boiler and steam turbine equipment that require 600
degrees C for efficent operation CAN be removed from a nuclear
power plant (after decommissioning) and used AS IS in a
geothermal power plant, thereby saving millions of dollars in
setting up a geothermal power plant that will last Generations
without any damage to the environment, not 50 years or so with
radionuclides sickening the surrounding life forms (including
our children!) for a much longer time period. :(
Testament to the corruptus in extremis cui prodest scelus is
fecit is the fact that the proponents of the so-called "Nuclear
Renaissance" brazenly ignore mountains of irrefutable
evidence/proof regarding the negative aspects of ‘radioactive
experimentation’ we have been subjected to. All humans have
measurable levels of radioactive contamination in their bodies,
mothers pass it along in breast milk and fathers, through their
sperm. Simple lab tests can accurately pinpoint the age of a
person by measuring the percentage and calibrating the placement
of radioactive markers in teeth and bones. There really is no
argument… The corporate government invented one. >:(
The United States enjoys the greatest opportunity to move things
in a healthy direction. Yet the powers controlling our
government effectively do just the opposite. It's criminal
negligence, not just laziness, of the otherwise brilliant and
well educated proponents of nuclear power poisons to choose
temporal comfort now which will eventually render huge tracts
of the only Earth uninhabitable, at the price of the health and
happiness of future generation. >:(
The news and our leaders assure us that the juice required to
fire up TV screens and operate the ski-lifts and casinos flows
necessarily from nuclear generating facilities.
Many among us know that isn't so, indeed, there have been, since
at least the mid-20th century (and geothermal energy technology
50 years before THAT!), numerous proven technologies which are
relatively clean, green and renewable. They have been ruthlessly
blacklisted, slandered and suppressed. :(
Actually, we can live very comfortably without any nukes and
even without burning much more fossil fuels , but the situation
is not portrayed that way.
Even if nukes were essential to the provision of our
creature-comforts, clearly the poisonous DNA damaging
radionuclide poisons they emit are not worth the price that
cancer victims pay at present and those in future generations
will inherit.
Too many intelligent humans have relinquished any remaining hint
of critical thinking ability, ‘donned the sheep skin’, so to
speak, and followed the herd in any direction that the political
faces push. :(
That is a big mistake since the political faces are (can only
be) the puppets of the most gratuitously greedy among us. The
greed is so extreme (and irrational) that they knowingly sell
the well-being of their very own children and grandchildren for
bigger yachts. >:(
We can stop it if more of us just get up off our pastry-stuffed
butts and say NO to dirty energy and YES to 100% Renewable
Energy NOW!
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Demanding 100% Renewable energy is the way, not only to the
extremely important goal of a viable biosphere, but absolutely
essential to regaining our democracy from the fossil fuels and
nuclear power industries that buy our politicians with the
profits from pollution producing fuels while said politicians
keep fossil fuel and nuclear power plant "subsides" (taxpayer
theft!) firmly in place to tilt the energy playing field against
renewable energy.
I started a petition on Care2: Demand Liberty From Fossil Fuels
Through 100% Renewable Energy WWII Style Effort. I'm hoping that
if enough people sign my petition, we can make a difference.
Will you help me collect more by adding your name?
Posters to download and print to publicize the petition:
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Here's a link to the petition:
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Thank you and please pass it on. We'll have real traction
against the polluters if we can get 100,000 to several million
signatures by September when the petition is to be delivered to
the White House.
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: July 26, 2014, 1:16 pm
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: July 31, 2014, 11:00 pm
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Geothermal Energy To Become Next New Source of Chinese Renewable
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Liu Yuanyuan, International Correspondent
July 24, 2014
BEIJING -- The National Energy Administration of China is
developing its 13th five-year plan (2016-2020) for the
development and use of geothermal resources, in a move to
further boost the development of the sector, according to China
Securities Journal.
Industry analysts said that the plan is another important step
towards nationwide utilization of geothermal resources following
the release of guidelines on promoting the development and use
of geothermal energy. The plan is an indicator that geothermal
energy is being promoted as the next new growth source across
China's renewable energy sector following wind and solar.
According to the plan, annual geothermal utilization should
reach 50 million tons of standard coal equivalent by the end of
2020, by which time an integrated technological and industrial
system for the development and use of geothermal resources will
be put in place across the country. Officials also plant to
construct an operational model for the development and use of
geothermal resources most suited for each region.
According to the Chinese energy regulator’s geothermal energy
guidelines released in February of 2013, a national geothermal
energy data and information system will be established by the
end of 2015, with hopes that a nationwide geothermal heating
program will cover an area of 500 million square meters while
installed geothermal capacity will be expanded to 100 MW. As of
the end of 2013, China’s aggregate installed capacity of
geothermal power generation projects was a mere 27 MW with all
projects located in Tibet, including the 25-MW Yangbajin
geothermal power station.
Wang Guiling, secretary-general of Geothermal Resources Survey
Center, China Geological Survey, said that the plan, which will
also include a government subsidy plan, is on track to be issued
next year.
A number of Chinese companies, including Shanghai Hanbell
Precise Machinery, Zhejiang Kaishan Compressor, Yantai Moon and
Dalian Refrigeration, have jumped into the geothermal equipment
market as the future for the market holds great promise thanks
to the support from the central government, according to a
securities researcher.
The development and use of geothermal energy as a renewable
clean energy is of great significance to the easing of the
energy shortage as well as for environmental protection. As a
country with substantial geothermal resources, China has 853
billion tons and 256 billion tons of standard coal equivalent in
geothermal reserves and geothermal resources available for
development, respectively, most of which are located in the
eastern and southwestern parts of the country.
“Today, many countries and regions with no or few geothermal
resources are actively using geothermal heat pumps, a technology
which have experienced a rapid development over the past few
years, to exploit geothermal resources,” said Wang Jiyang, a
researcher at the Institute of Geology and Geophysics under the
Chinese Academy of Sciences. “Geothermal energy has great growth
potential as it is limitless and available in almost every
corner of the globe.”
Lead image: Geothermal compass via Shutterstock
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: August 1, 2014, 5:31 pm
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Geothermal Visual: Comparing the Geothermal Permitting Process
to Other Technologies
Leslie Blodgett
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National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) review process for
geothermal projects as compared to the timelines for average
solar and wind development
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: August 8, 2014, 2:01 am
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[center]Construction Begins on World’s Largest Geothermal
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SustainableBusiness.com News
It's been a long time coming, but with financing secured,
construction will finally begin on the world's largest
geothermal power plant - the Sarulla Geothermal Power Project in
Indonesia.
In the works since 1990, the $1.2 billion, 330 megawatt (MW)
project is about to break ground, with the first phase online in
2016 and the entire project by 2018.
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: September 25, 2014, 2:37 pm
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[move]There PLENTY of HEAT down there for ALL our energy
needs![/move]
SciShow takes you down the deepest hole in the world - Russia's
Kola Superdeep Borehole - explaining who dug it and why, and
what we learned about Earth in the process, such as the layers
of water, created out of super high-pressures, from the hydrogen
and oxygen squeezed out of the surrounding rock strata, a
phenomenon never before observed; also found were single-celled
animals, found not in the customary limestone deposits of former
oceans but likely preserved, due to the extraordinarily high
pressures.
By the time the geologists got to the 12-km-deep (7.45 miles)
area, where the rock dated 2.7 nillion years old, the
temperatures down there were extremely hot - 180 degrees
Celcius/356 Fahrenheit and the "rock," at that depth, according
to the geologists, behaved more like "plastic."
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: September 26, 2014, 8:11 pm
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In regard to world events and profit over planet greed based
stupidity this whole world bloodfest is, and always has been,
about who has the AUTHORITY (see legal tender laws with a gun
pointed at out happy heads) to issue money. And let me quickly
add that it is NOT, and never has been, about the RESOURCES for
energy and whatever, as many incorrectly claim. Say WHAT!!?
Why would I make such an "irrational" statement? BECAUSE there
are PLENTY of resources to go around and have a sustainable,
steady state economy. The only reason we DON'T have one is
because TPTB have a SYSTEM that started with that log Little
John wanted to charge Robin Hood to cross. Sure, you believe
TPTB have their hand in our pocket 24/7 BUT, you understandably
might think we are short on resources, which causes us to fight
for them in order be the King of the Currency issuing Hill that
controls all that. Nope.
The post before this one has an excellent video about the
deepest borehole on earth.
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/> There are TWO ways to deal with providing energy for life for
ms
like us that need to stay warm in winter, cool in summer, make
things and move about.
1) INSULATION
2) Energy harvesting from some process like burning fossil fuels
or Renewable Energy devices.
TPTB NEED item "2)" because TPTB CONTROL the energy spigot with
weapons, wars and the power to issue currency.
True. those two items have a bit of overlap but the important
thing is that when you vastly increase energy insulation, you
vastly DECREASE the demand for CENTRALIZED ENERGY. Centralized
energy is the mother's milk of TPTB. It gives AUTHORITY and
POWER to TPTB to wage wars for "profit" (a lie when the costs to
biosphere are tallied), control our behavior and decide what is
money and what ain't!
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Still don't see it? Okay, build a house with a hole in the
basement 200 feet down ANYWHERE ON EARTH. Passive (you don't
need to boil water! ) geothermal with a heat pump will keep you
warm as toast in winter and cool in the summer. Add PV and a
small wind turbine if necessary with a battery bank and you have
the energy to charge your electric car, run all your appliances
and the heat pump machinery. Finally, the excess power generated
can be used to pump water into a tank that can also be
considered a 'battery' with infinite recharge cycles.
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The house, if insulated like the Norwegian houses are required
to be by code, won't need a lot of energy to heat and cool
anyway. BUT, you may want to NOT insulate it quite that well if
you have extra geothermal power to play with. A less 'tight'
house lessens your risk of improper oxygenation and/or radon gas
build up (a big problem here in Vermont).
IF ALL the houses are built this way, the grid becomes a BACKUP,
if it survives at all. ;D The maintenance of that system is
PEANUTS compared with furnace and internal combustion car engine
maintenance, never mind all the money sucked out of us for
millions of miles of power lines to build and maintain with
transformers and whatnot.
The initial cost, if amortized over a thirty year period into
the mortgage, is CHEAPER than paying for heating oil, furnace
maintenance, gasoline, engine maintenance and grid power for
thirty years; MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER!
So why isn't it done? Because you CANNOT jack up energy prices
on distributed energy systems. ;D That means you cannot FORCE
people to pay more. That means you cannot FORCE people to pay to
make weapons to bomb other countries to get energy resources for
centralized power plants that are NO LONGER NEEDED. ;D It's a
real BUMMER for the fossil fuel Powers that BE!
They'd be forced to do crazy **** like England did a few
centuries ago to suck money out of people; a tax was levied on
the SIZE OF THE WINDOWS in people's houses for the CROWN. ::)
:P
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I repeat, over and over, WE-THE-PEOPLE are the cash cow of TPTB.
THEY are the lazy, welfare queen, parasites that need to sell us
the bull**** that we need them, their wars and their centralized
energy.
As far as energy availability, thermodynamically speaking, we
DON'T have a resource problem. But just let Agelbert go out
there and set up a geothermal/PV/wind/water tank battery system
and TRY get BANK prime rate thirty year financing to tack on to
any existing mortgage or new home mortgage and I will be TAXED
six ways from Sunday or make it "against some ordinance" to
PREVENT me from doing that.
That is what the fossil fuelers have done for over a century.
Farmers didn't need Rockefeller's CRAPPY fuel. They made their
own! SO TPTB make it illegal! Same with hemp and hundred of
other renewable energy solutions.
Even that GUN to our heads is, in the final analysis, BALONEY
TOO! Why do you think the fossil fuelers of this world
constantly harp on our alleged "demand" for energy while
studiously ignoring the OBVIOUS fact that right beneath anybody
that lives on this planet is enough passive geothermal to
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Because they NEED us to BELIEVE that in order to stay in the
energy driver's seat. Thanks to people like me and many others
that call bull**** on TPTB, they are losing their propaganda
advantage. When that goes, they are done.
I just hope it's not too late. TPTB are wicked people, and will
do their damnedest to kill every person that exposes their
energy resources scarcity SCAM used to foment wars, price shocks
and centralized fossil fuel pollution. My voice is too small to
be considered a threat. But even so, they send their paid TOOLS
here to try to ridicule the truth.
Finally, think about this for a moment. A nuclear power plan
needs 600C to make the high pressure steam to produce over a
gigawatt of power. Russia had MUCH MORE heat than that available
and they plugged the hole. :evil4: And yeah, the HAVE the
anti-corrosion piping needed to get all the heat they needed for
over a century with next to NOTHING in maintenance costs
compared with a radioactive monster like a nuke power plant or a
centralized fossil fuel pollution factory. They didn't do it
because people would CATCH ON that geothermal energy power is
UBIQUITOUS.
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The emperor has no clothes. Sure, he has a real gun pointed at
us but most people are toeing the line because they believe the
bull**** about not being able to be energy independent with
renewable energy anywhere on this planet. That LIE is ENFORCED
by the government playing whack-a-mole with anyone who proves it
can be done (Taxation, fees, city ordinances, etc
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/>The 'Renewable energy "subsidies" that the Fossil fuelers like
to disparage and moan about are WINDOW DRESSING. What dirty
energy gets is the real subsidy gravy train but you'll never get
Mendacious Fossil Fuelers to admit it.
I'm toeing the line because I'm not allowed to dig deep holes
for geothermal energy on my rented property. :(
I may be ahead of my time, but I'm right.
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: December 3, 2014, 5:57 pm
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[center]Geothermal Visual: Jobs Created by Power Plants
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Leslie Blodgett
December 03, 2014 | 1 Comments
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The graph above shows jobs created at actual geothermal power
plants using information GEA collected over the last few years;
companies are kept anonymous to protect proprietary information.
View this along with presentations to the Committee on Earth
Sciences at dels.nas.edu.
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A. G. Gelbert
December 3, 2014
The fantastic geothermal renewable energy potential, both active
(600 degrees C) and passive, has been IGNORED by the US
Government for well over 50 years since it spent millions
studying it.
I'll give you a couple of pictures with U.S. Department of
Energy data for you to contemplate. The U.S. Government doesn't
just own 28% of all the land in the USA, it owns over 90% of all
the land with maximum active geothermal potential.
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As of March 2012, out of the 2.27 billion acres in the country,
about 28% of the total was owned by the Federal government
according to the Interior Department.
And THAT 28% that has VAST Renewable Energy potential in
geothermal, wind, solar, hydro and biomass (along with giant
offshore and coastal current undersea turbine potential) has
been used almost EXLUSIVELY for so-called fossil fuel resources,
ALL of which are profit over planet crapitalist plays for
CORPORATIONS, not we-the-people.
Those lands BELONG to we-the-people but are being TRASHED in
rampant, polluting, biosphere endangering exploitation for
fossil fuels.
Don't you think this is somewhat WRONG!!? Don't you think it's
time to STOP crapitalizing those lands and DEMAND that they be
CONSERVED, Cared for and used EXCLUSIVELY for Renewable Energy
so the wildlife on them and we-the-people get an IMPROVED
biosphere instead of a diseased and dying one from dirty energy
(including nuclear!) industry produced poisons?
We need to get our priorities straight. Business as usual (see
graphic below) is suicidal.
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Re: Geothermal Power
By: AGelbert Date: December 18, 2014, 10:54 pm
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The Dream Becomes Real: Touring the Newberry Enhanced Geothermal
Site
[quote]Tucked away in remote Oregon, the AltaRock Newberry EGS
project has been shrouded in rumors and secrecy, but a recent
tour of the facility revealed that the technology is very much
real and making great strides. [/quote]
Meg Cichon, Associate Editor, RenewableEnergyWorld.com
December 15, 2014
Excellent article at link:
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