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Re: Profiles in Courage
By: AGelbert Date: April 26, 2014, 3:46 pm
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Surly,
This is an extremely complicated subject for me. As a veteran
(over 23 years ago) of, not one, but TWO suicide attempts over a
one year period, I respectfully request that you set aside what
you think you know about Ruppert, his justification for doing
what he did, your views on the degree of inertia hurtling
mankind toward a massive collapse and die off (i.e. that it is
Thelma & Louise after they left the cliff edge situation).
My friend, you do not understand the nature of the various
methods those in control of a society use to marginalize whistle
blowers when they haven't killed them outright. Society, my
friend, DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE. Why? Because it would force a
review of the passive aggressive measures used to SUICIDE a
person. No job, no friends, no income, no opportunities, etc. DO
NOT DRIVE A PERSON INSANE. The bipolar business and "mental
instability" so often attributed to the person that took his own
life are a fiction created for the express purpose of absolving
an INSANE and CRIMINAL society from responsibility in the murder
by suicide of a thorn in the ruling class's side. It is an
established clinical fact that ANYONE can be driven to suicide
through a combination of ostracism and surreptitious drugs added
to his or her food. They DO IT ALL THE TIME, Surly. Do you want
chapter and verse on this? I'm too worn out to find it for you
but you KNOW it's there, hidden in plain sight.
1. A person becomes a target because said person challenges a
ruling class piece of propaganda that is essential to control of
the populace.
2. ALL human needs of said target are analyzed to see what is
the "weak" point.
3. A multi pronged approach, depending on the importance of the
target, begins to close all the doors that allow said person to
feel they are successful at whistle blowing ("Come down off the
cross, Mike." implying the effort is quixotic).
4. A multi pronged approach, depending on the importance of the
target, begins to close all the doors that allow said person to
eat, sleep and socialize without conflict and constant struggle,
always, but gradually, making it more and more difficult to make
ends meet. This is key to undermining the self esteem of the
target.
5. Efforts are made to isolate the person from any and all
persons who give him or her respect, comfort or friendship.
Nickel and diming in the monetary needs area (landlord ups the
rent, court won't address it, cops ignore his complaints, etc.)
and defamatory rumors are spread about the person being a
pervert of some sort to keep potential readers or people who
admire the target away from him.
6. when the target claims "they" are out to get him, his
pedigree as a "MENTALLY UNSTABLE" person is established. This is
the GREEN LIGHT for the next phase: The health care professional
that befriends him and provides ALL THE MEDICATION he needs free
of charge to "help him in his crisis". The medication is
designed to mimic a bipolar diagnosis (periods of euphoria
followed by severe depressive states - that's right Surly,
"MEDICATION" does that).
7. Now it's a waiting game. The target's rep is tarnished as his
missives appear more paranoid and he refuses to justify, in a
detailed, objective manner, his claims of being persecuted or
any of his other claims on government criminality. He withdraws
his trust from 100% of the people around him because he doesn't
know who to trust. This reinforces the planned ostracism of the
target (now with the HELP of the target!) that will lead
inexorably towards suicide. The target is putting stuff out
there that certain professionals quote with "concern" about the
"mental health" of the person and "suggesting" that said person
needs help. The sociopaths rub their hands with glee at this key
aspect of the "program" bearing its rotten fruit.
8.The next severe depressive swing has the target logically
considering that there really isn't any hope for HIM. He
conflates that lack of hope with the previous, and erroneous,
assumption that "Thelma and Louise have gone off the cliff" (the
basic premise of the DD). This is a faulty premise. However
since the premise that "they" are out to get him is NOT faulty,
this clouds his mind (when he is in the depressive swing) to the
"There is NO HOPE for ANYONE" assumption.
Target realizes that those out to get him will be tarnished if
he dies and many will pay more attention to what the target
wrote if he dies violently. Many will suspect he was suicided.
This is the only light in the tunnel the target can see. He sees
himself as using his death as the last act to fight the evil
establishment. He sees himself on a mission from God to do this
(he may be right but that never included suicide) justifying the
act. Now he begins to plan, knowing his mental state will be
questioned. He writes SANE hints here and there about a logical,
studied course "action" that is the only "recourse" in the
battle against the foe.
9. Target off's himself. Sure the CIA didn't do a double tap on
his forehead Mossad style but it's the SAME GOD D A M N E D
THING, Surly.
I just explained to you what the people in Vermont have done
systematically for a couple of centuries in this country. Modern
science, with the help of pharmacology, has perfected the
technique. They won, Surly. But they haven't, and never will,
outsmart or actually succeed in thwarting God, who holds ALL the
cards. THAT is MY main reason for HOPE, not renewable energy.
God IS in CONTROL.
Mike KNEW that God wasn't going to do JACK **** to stop
mankind's insanity with fossil fuels. But that should not have
caused him to go the "there is no hope" path. Mike was smart.
The sociopaths knew that so they messed with his mind so he
could aid THEM in ruining Mike's rep. This is the MAIN tool used
by the evil ones (ridicule, charges of mental instability,
perversion, etc.) to destroy the power of the person's message
by destroying the messenger's cred. On a much, much smaller
scale, I experienced similar attempts to destroy my cred at the
DD. I know of what I speak. I got rather tired of people more
concerned with pointing fingers at me than arguing the merits of
my posts.
I don't have Ruppert's brain or skills at exposing the bad guys.
BUT, I KNOW how people are suicided by society through ostracism
and slander. I've BEEN THERE. I am CERTAIN that RUPPERT, even
though he may have put the gun to his forehead, DID NOT commit
suicide; he was MURDERED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT
I don't think I'm splitting hairs here, Surly. Maslow's
heirarchy of human needs is REAL. You and many DDers like RE can
claim you've got to be tough and not let it "get to you" and
only the "weak sisters" (like me?) with thin skin or
insufficient "grit" to give everyone the finger and keep smiling
fall to this evil technique. B U L L S H I T ! I can take you
and, in six months turn you into a basket case looking for a
bridge to jump off of with the power and chemicals available to
our government. God knows this. Sometimes, He works a miracle
and the person lives on (point blank suicides sometimes don't
work because the bullet misses all the "right" spots or the gun
won't go off, etc - a pastor's witness about when he pointed a
double barreled shot gun at the inside of his mouth) but the
GUILTY PARTY is the GOVERNMENT, not the person. You may
disagree, but I believe God sees it that way too.
Like I said at the beginning, society will not accept that it
murders people by suicide. Sure when a person is dying of cancer
and commits suicide to avoid pain, that's the real deal and
society is not involved. But the fact that your arm held the
gun that shot YOU is NOT proof of suicide until the role of the
GOVERNMENT in closing off ALL avenues of life quality through
the elimination of needs (Maslow's hierarchy) is studied
THOROUGHLY. Of course that ain't gonna happen any time soon.
So why didn't I succeed in my two (actually there were three
but the authorities never learned about the sleeping pills - I
just slept for a couple of days lol!) suicide attempts? I don't
know. Perhaps it was so I could keep a Diner from committing
suicide early on when I was posting at the Diner (I'll write
about it soon). Perhaps to take care of my wife and cat. Perhaps
I have some function, like this post, that will help you survive
and thrive.
I'm not the boss. J.C. calls the shots in my life. I am His
willing slave and though I have little desire to remain on
planet earth, I realize it's not my decision. Ruppert forgot
that but I'm certain that was due to some drug that set up a
severe depressive state combined with a panic attack. He was a
good man. They killed. He is with God.
Finally, the KEY to start destroying a person's HOPE so you can
DESTROY their self esteem and pave the way to suicide is to get
said person to ASSUME that logically, scientifically,
politically and even randomly in the "Darwinian" universe we
inhabit, there is no purpose in remaining alive; but you MIGHT
buy some time for those you love by committing suicide.
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Don't say it can't happen to you, Surly. Don't allow
hopelessness into your world view. The DD is STUCK in that world
view. God does NOT want you to think that way. Satan DOES!
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Re: Profiles in Courage
By: Surly1 Date: April 27, 2014, 8:45 pm
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AG,
A remarkable post with a lot of food for thought.
I have been working all weekend, and will try to unpack some of
this for discussion in the next day or so. I am bone tired right
now, and just came across this as I am ready to pack it in.
Thank you for the cre and the depth with which you put this
together.
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Re: Profiles in Courage
By: AGelbert Date: April 28, 2014, 12:15 am
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Surly,
You are welcome, my friend.
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This is a library. There is no pressure and no rush here ever.
;D
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Profiles in Courage: Michael Dadashi
By: AGelbert Date: April 28, 2014, 12:30 pm
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Michael Dadashi
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A former heroin addict started this awesome e-waste company that
hires others in recovery
By Holly Richmond
Most ex-heroin addicts don’t start multimillion-dollar
companies, but Michael Dadashi did — and now almost 70 percent
of his employees are former alcoholics and drug addicts too.
Dadashi’s company is MHD Enterprises, which recycles electronic
waste.
MHD recycles, repairs, and resells businesses’ old tech products
and items customers have returned. Dadashi actually started the
company to support his heroin habit, according to Fast Company,
which had plagued him since age 18. (He’d learned about e-waste
recycling at a short-lived previous job.)
After trying rehab, he OD’d while he was driving in 2009 and
finally got clean.
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2012, MHD was the 28th fastest-growing company in America. With
his recovery and business both on track, Dadashi combined the
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“We’re giving computers and electronics a second chance,
but what talks to my heart is giving people a second chance.”
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Profiles in Courage: George Washington Carver
By: AGelbert Date: April 28, 2014, 1:11 pm
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George Washington Carver
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[I]"I believe the Great Creator has put oil and ores on this
earth to give us a breathing spell...As we exhaust them, we must
fall back on our farms, which is God's true storehouse and can
never be exhausted. For we can learn to synthesize materials for
every human need from the things that grow." [/I]
- George Washington Carver -
Please read this article first:
Decades-old pollution loophole still burns people of color and
the poor
By Brentin Mock
Petrochemical companies in the U.S. are into some really funky
practices. >:(
You may know that refineries and other polluting industrial
plants have to apply for government-issued permits to secrete
toxins into the air. The permits ensure that those secretions
don’t rise above certain air quality standards so people living
nearby don’t get sick and die.
Even so, companies across the country have found ways to release
more poisons into the air than is safe – nasties like soot, the
product of incomplete combustion. Scientists have found no level
of soot that is safe for humans breathe it in. There’s no 50
shades of this gray stuff; if you live next to one of these soot
secretors and inhale even a little bit of the stuff, you
increase your likelihood of dying early, period.
One of the excuses companies use is that their facilities
release certain premature and post-operational emissions when
they are firing up, shutting down, or when they break down. This
is part of doing business, they say, so it shouldn’t count under
the permit caps, even though it fouls up the air quality of the
people who live near their facilities.
Roughly three dozen states allow for this type of pollution
under rules called “startup shutdown malfunction,” or SSM, :P
by those who track this and who care about people’s health. It’s
been going on for roughly four decades, and environmental
justice groups want it stopped, like, yesterday.
The Environmental Protection Agency is in the process of
finalizing a rule to do that by June 12 — thanks to a Sierra
Club petition — but the groups want faster closure. After all,
lives are at stake. On Earth Day, the Environmental Justice
Leadership Forum on Climate Change sent a letter to President
Obama urging him to “expeditiously move forward with
finalization and implementation of this much- needed,
long-overdue public health safeguard.”
The problem isn’t Obama, though. Like most things policy these
days, it’s the states that have been obstructing progress.
States are responsible for developing plans that ensure they are
complying with national air quality standards. But not only have
many states allowed for SSM excuses, but some provide additional
cover for SSM pollution by waiving the financial liability — as
much as $37,500 per violation daily — that normally comes with
polluting beyond permitted limits. Called “affirmative defense,”
it’s the kind of corporate affirmative action that hardly ever
gets checked. (The EPA actually has allowed these affirmative
defenses in the past, but a recent D.C. Circuit Court ruling, on
a case brought by the Natural Resources Defense Council, will
force the agency to rethink that.)
Luckily, states don’t have final say on air quality plans,
especially if they are not up to snuff. Congress granted the EPA
the last say, under the Clean Air Act, meaning the federal
agency becomes the ultimate dominatrix tasked with whipping
state plans into shape if proven flaccid.
Such federal ceilings and check systems are needed because, as
I’ve written before, states sometimes pretend that their stink
don’t **** on other states. Also, because China.
The EPA knew SSM was a problem back in 1977. >:( But when it
set the rules, it had neither the resources nor the staff
expertise to actually do anything when the rules were broken.
That’s not a knock against the EPA; many new federal agency
rules have a trial-and-error period when they are refined
through tests and challenges. Also, Congress often bestows
rule-making powers on federal agencies, but with little guidance
on how to exercise those powers. Environmental groups help mold
and finesse the rules via public comments … and by suing the
**** out of the government agencies responsible for upholding
them.
But when it comes to SSM, companies have been allowed to pollute
with impunity for so long that it’s as if they feel entitled.
(Remember this next time Republicans give a budget speech
cursing the “entitlements” of low-income Americans.) I’m sure it
hasn’t helped that the victims of this lack of oversight have
mostly been communities of color and poor residents. Those
neighborhoods generally don’t matter enough for anyone to care
to change their practices.
Fact is, little cracking down happened for too long. Today, air
pollution can be better tracked and mapped, and the data better
organized and stored — though all far from perfect.
Environmental groups just want the rules and their enforcement
finally brought into alignment with the updated info.
To understand the urgency of this, listen to the stories of some
of the people who live on the fencelines of these polluters,
collected from a Sierra Club document about state plans to
address SSM issues:
Birmingham, Ala.
The Walter Coke plant has been raining down pollution since the
1880s, a practice that hasn’t slowed even as Jefferson County
recently ranked tenth in the nation for cancer risks from toxic
air.
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times from 2008 to 2012 alone. This has meant hell for Charlie
Powell, who lived close-by for nearly 40 years, developing
respiratory problems in the process, and his wife developing
cancer. His 70-year-old aunt Eunice Webb also has asthma after
20 years of living within a mile of the plant, as does one of
her grandchildren who lives with her. Her mother and sister,
also Walter Coke neighbors, have suffered heart attacks and her
husband died from cancer.
Detroit, Mich.
The 48217 zip code is the most polluted in the nation, thanks to
the Detroit Marathon Refinery. A $2.2 billion expansion in 2008
to process Canadian tar sands for crude oil couldn’t have
helped. The funky sulfuric emissions from Marathon flaring has
burdened long-time 48217 resident Regina Woodard-Smith with
breathing problems, when not regularly over-peppering her home
and yard with soot. For Sherry Griswold, who lives within a few
hundred feet of Marathon, the monster flaring has shaken her
home so badly that ceiling tiles dropped loose. She has stopped
bringing her grandchildren over after tiring of washing soot off
their skin from playing outside.
Shreveport, La.
The Calumet refinery released over 320,000 pounds of excess air
pollution over the neighboring community between 2005 and 2012.
There are four elementary schools in close proximity. Velma
White, who’s lived in the community for almost 40 years, became
concerned about Calumet’s pollution after her daughter fell ill
to renal failure. Many others in the neighborhood have developed
respiratory illnesses, asthma, heart disease, skin problems, and
cancer. She has suffered from Calumet’s flaring and funky
emissions herself, with constant burning sensations in her nose
and mouth and nausea.
It doesn’t sound like these communities are getting any pleasure
out of living close to these refineries. Since many of the
residents are elderly and low-income, they have few if any
options to move away. This is why environmental groups are
hoping Obama hears their hollers.
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Brentin Mock is a Washington, D.C.-based journalist who writes
regularly for Grist about environmental justice issues and the
connections between environmental policy, race, and politics.
Follow him on Twitter at @brentinmock.
Well said. It needs to be shouted from the rooftops until the
deliberately hard of hearing oligarchy that runs our country
gets it. I posted the following on a seemingly totally
different subject to show the toxic relationship of white
privilege to people of color [I]and[/I] the poor of [I]any[/I]
color by "greed is good" true believers that have cursed our
country from the outset:
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The subsequent post is connected through an indirect route to
the above article. The post is my rant against Koch lies about
biofuel sources being "bad" for the environment at Cleantechnica
followed by praise of Brenton for writing (at Grist) about how
the poor of color are set up to breath toxic air in the USA.
In answer to an article claiming corn is a poor biofuel source (
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This is grossly erroneous information. But just for the hell of
it, let's say it is true. Hello? Have you [s]morons[/s] erudite
luminaries heard of Duckweed or Azolla (mosquito fern, duckweed
fern, fairy moss, water fern)? Never mind sugar cane, which
beats the stuffing out of corn (a crop set up as a biofuel
source by big oil deliberately to fail!), both Azolla [I]and[/I]
Duckweed have higher growth rates, actually sequester carbon
rather than simply being carbon neutral and can grow in just
about any place that humans live on this planet, including
non-arable land because you grow them with water that [B]does
not ever[/b] have to be replenished from the initial shallow
tank amount, thank you very much.
Sorry folks, spare me the hemming and hawing about "unproven"
crops and biofuels, this is really another Koch funded piece of
clever half truth.
Do you remember how our ancestors crowded the native Americans
and Blacks into the worst living conditions imaginable, took
away their quality of life, pride of ownership and any hope for
a decent future and then "lamented" how "genetically lazy and
prone to theft and immoral behavior" said people were as
compared to whitey? Sure you do! Well, guess what? Big oil
has been doing that with renewable energy in general and
biofuel crops in particular for several decades. Have you ever
heard of hemp? Did you know you can make any plastic there is
from it cheaper than from fossil fuels? Did you know we were
doing just that in the 1930s until a "strange" series of fires
destroyed our first major chemurgy refinery? Get real people.
Big oil is just "doing what they have done for over 100 years! .
We need fossil fuels like a hole in the head.
Corn was always a poor, lousy, stupid choice for biofuels
because you need to plow a field - you need lots of fuel for the
machinery in a self defeating loop of irrationality when you are
looking for biofuels, it's an annual instead of a perennial - a
guarantee of leaking carbon into the atmosphere! The Kansas Land
Institute proved all this (and provided a thorough laundry list
of perennial grasses that don't require plowing or pesticides -
all much more cost efficient for biofuel stock than stupid corn)
and told it to Congress over 15 years ago and Congress would not
listen. -[I]And that's the way big oil wanted it![/I]
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And by the way, Brentin. I wish to say I admire your articles
which exemplify integrity and veracity in reporting. I am
certain you know of this African American scientist that could
have changed our energy history in the 1930s if the Chemurgy
technology he invented to make hydrocarbons out of plant
carbohydrates had not been sabotaged by Standard Oil's seven
sisters (Rockefeller and oil cartel friends, that Teddy
Roosevelt <b>never actually dismantled </b>), working hand in
hand with Dupont (tetra ethyl lead fuel additive) and bought and
paid politicians.
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George Washington Carver, “Father of chemurgy”
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God Spoke through George Washington Carver
By: AGelbert Date: April 28, 2014, 8:19 pm
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Profiles in Courage: Steven Donziger
By: AGelbert Date: May 12, 2014, 9:09 pm
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Steven Donziger lives in New York City where he practices law in
the area of international human rights and the environment. He
is part of a team of advocates representing indigenous and
farmer communities in an area of the Ecuadorian Amazon
rainforest polluted by oil operations conducted by Texaco, now
owned by Chevron. In 2011, the communities won a landmark $19
billion judgment against Chevron for the cleanup of what is
considered to be one of the worst oil-related environmental
catastrophes in the world. Steven has been involved in advocacy
for the affected communities since first visiting the region in
1993.
Steven was the founder and director of Project Due Process, a
legal advocacy group for Cuban detainees who came to the United
States in the Mariel boatlift. He is the former director of the
non-partisan National Criminal Justice Commission that produced
the book The Real War on Crime (HarperCollins). His analysis and
commentary on human rights, environmental, and criminal justice
matters has been featured in numerous legal publications,
academic journals, and news outlets. After graduating from law
school in 1991, Steven worked as a trial attorney with the
District of Columbia Public Defender Service. He currently
serves on the Board of Advisors to the Fortune Society, the
largest self-help organization for ex-offenders in the United
States. In 1991, Steven led a mission of lawyers and public
health specialists to Iraq to assess the impact on civilians of
the bombing during the first Gulf War.
Agelbert NOTE:excellent VIDEO AT LINK showing WHAT A MURDEROUS
bunch of EVIL Sociopaths the Oil Corporations are. Steven has
been on this case (and WON IT UNANIMOUSLY but Chevron WON'T
PAY!) for TWENTY YEARS! Now Big Oil is trying to destroy him.
Criminal negligence, entrapment, extorsion, bribes and other
dirty tricks 24/7 is THEIR MO. That's what they DO and have DONE
for over 100 years. Spread the word. Tell everybody to sign in
support of Steven at his web site. This man is truly a
courageous man!
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Re: Profiles in Courage: Dr. David Suzuki, Professor Emeritus of
Zoology
By: AGelbert Date: May 18, 2014, 8:19 pm
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David Suzuki
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Jump past the Intro to the meat of the matter at 4:50 ;D
Dr. Suzuki's most precious title is that of being and Elder. He
is a hard nosed scientist absolutely devoid of pollyannish,
cornucopian willful blindness about the horrific ecological
trajectory we are on. Nevertheless, he disagrees with colleagues
like that fellow scientist at the "Nature Bats Last" blog. WHY?
First of all because he IS PAINFULLY AWARE of the LIMITATIONS of
HUMAN SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. I.E. David tells those SO SURE that
Thelma and Louise have left the cliff that they are making
exactly the same mistake, born of scientific arrogance (the "we
know all there is syndrome" ;) ) that was made with fossil
fuels, DDT, Tetra-ethyl Lead, GMOs, Nuclear Power, ozone
destroying CFCs in air conditioning and so on. Put simply, those
who ARROGANTLY (see 30 positive feedback loops mean we all MUST
BE DEAD SOON!
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believe it's OVER from the scientific data available to them
are just as arrogant as the ones who championed all those
destructive inventions. The COMMON ground is HUMAN ARROGANCE.
David says it's time to GET IT that we STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND
the BIOSPHERE. That means the precautionary principle IS NOT
OPTIONAL. That precautionary principle applies BOTH to
cornucopians AND doomers. What part of the absolute requirement
for us to use biomimicry, not just as the gold standard, but as
the indispensable requirement for Homo saps at our present state
of INFANCY in biosphere knowledge, for any new technology to be
applied in our crude civilization do people not understand?
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Do you really think an internal combustion engine is high
technology compared with a muscle? How stupid, ignorant and
absolutely arrogant can you be? Look at a car or a house and
compare it with anything alive that moves or a sea shell. ONE
sea shell lasts EASILY a thousand years! Our technology is CRAP!
And that CRAP is celebrated like some amazing genius of
invention when it is a "genius" for ****ting where we eat,
NOTHING ELSE!
So, yeah, when we GET IT that we STILL DON'T REALLY GET IT, then
we can use our growing understanding of nature to imitate it
with closed loop processes like nature uses. Anything else is
STUPID. David does not think we have passed the tipping point
because, as bad as our impact has been, the damage is still
remediable. The Caveat is that GEOENGINEERING will only make it
worse.
Technology, the kind WE have invented, is PEANUTS (poisoned
peanuts at that!) compared with the magnificently complex
cascade of biochemical reactions that governs life on the is
planet.
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The doomers believe we are killing the biosphere. I believe the
biosphere will kill us long before we can destroy it. Repeat
after me, WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH to ASSUME it is
over.
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cleverness" BS and slavishly imitate nature whether we fully
understand a process or not.
David doesn't say anything about the biosphere killing us but he
says PLENTY about our silly economic systems composed of
Pollyanna wishful thinking greedball, willfull stupidity. We ARE
NOT IN CONTROL, PERIOD. That is David's message.
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We need to GET OFF THE "we jus' gotta be in control" business
and accept that we are PART of the biosphere, not the LORD of
the biosphere!
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Until we REALLLY understand how this incredibly complex system
ticks, we have to STAY within the boundaries set for us by the
biosphere.
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David is big on evolution, something I disagree with, but his
heart is in the right place because he understands it is NOT
OPTIONAL to respect all life in order for us to survive and
thrive. Humans who bow before the altar of arrogance
representing human ingenuity are simultaneously unconcerned
about destroying a forest here or a few acres of soil there with
a mine or whatever because they are ignorant. I call it criminal
negligence.
Damnant quodnon intelligunt
Yeah, things are bad. But I agree with David. It's not over.
It's ARROGANT to be a doomer. The solution begins with HUMILITY
and acceptance, especially by the scientific community, that we
still are in our infancy as far as truly REAL FUNCTIONAL DURABLE
TECHNOLOGY. That is the technology of biochemistry and closed
loop recycling.
Can we do it? Sure! Will we do it? If human arrogance continues,
no. >:(
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David was on Moyers recently. Link here:
Dr. David Suzuki Tells Bill Moyers Why It’s Time to Get Real on
Climate Change
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Progress Reports: Petition to White House (for Sept 2015 Deliver
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By: AGelbert Date: June 21, 2014, 3:53 pm
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To all people who want a better tomorrow:
Hi,
I just started a petition on Care2: Demand Liberty From Fossil
Fuels Through 100% Renewable Energy WWII Style Effort. I'm
hoping that if enough people sign my petition, we can make a
difference. Right now I've got 66 signatures — will you help me
collect more by adding your name?
Here's a link to the petition:
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Thank you
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Ms. Elizabeth Nipper, MO
Jun 21, 13:06
# 66
Mr. Howard Johnson, AZ
Jun 21, 10:16
# 65
Mr. Porter Hedge, PA
Jun 21, 08:23
# 64
Mr. sam scharff, WA
Jun 21, 07:55
# 63
this accords with ...the general welfare
Mr. Paul Hof, Netherlands
Jun 20, 17:45
# 62
Mr. James Jorissen, CA
Jun 20, 17:20
# 61
Let's start yesterday.
Mr. Mike Farley, WI
Jun 20, 05:48
# 60
Name not displayed, WA
Jun 19, 22:51
# 59
Mr. Richard Stewart, LA
Jun 19, 19:52
# 58
Ms. GRACE NEFF, OR
Jun 19, 15:37
# 57
If only our leaders cared a little more about the future than
their own pre it would help.
Ms. B W, VT
Jun 19, 14:39
# 56
Ms. Jane Wilson, NE
Jun 19, 14:13
# 55
Mrs. Gracie Winters, OK
Jun 19, 13:35
# 54
Ms. Laurie Thomas, KY
Jun 19, 11:22
# 53
There is no sufficient excuse, justification or reason for
treating the earth with disrespect.
Ms. Charlotte Sines, CO
Jun 19, 10:54
# 52
Mrs. Mary Umowski, NJ
Jun 19, 07:45
# 51
Mr. Michael Hertel, WI
Jun 19, 07:30
# 50
Hi, I have a good idea to produce electrical energy from solar
energy using what I want to call SPUDS Solar powered up draft
slopes. Simple greenhouse roof holds in warm air which is
allowed to travel up slope of mountain through turbines to
produce electrical energy. If interested email me, mghertel (at)
execpc.com I need lots of help with the design and funding
however I am sure if built well it would show a good profit
quickly.
Mr. Colin Maddock, New Zealand
Jun 19, 02:50
# 49
Mr. Steven Gaylord, CA
Jun 18, 12:51
# 48
Ms. Merideth Genin, NY
Jun 18, 09:27
# 47
Mr. Lanny Sinkin, TX
Jun 18, 08:46
# 46
Mr. don goger, CO
Jun 18, 08:32
# 45
Mr. bill nowak, NY
Jun 18, 05:57
# 44
Mr. georg van den Berg, United Kingdom
Jun 18, 03:54
# 43
Mr. Shawn Gray, TX
Jun 18, 01:50
# 42
I personally work as a energy broker (selling electricity in
deregulated markets at discount in Texas) as well as offering
residential service in same markets I offer both customers
business and homes a choice of Green or Standard and try to push
the green most times higher (not always 80+% of the time) and
have been able to sell 15MW Green Vs 100MW Non in the last 5
years but thats up form 0 green five years ago.I also have sold
10 solar systems in DFW zero out of pocket to the owner and
lower rates for 20 years www.gosolardfw.com (not just for dfw
but most of the us) area this year.I believe green is the way to
go (by the way i make the same or less on green energy sales)
Ms. Eileen Novak, NE
Jun 17, 16:40
# 41
Moving away from our nation's dependency on fossil fuels isn't a
worthy cause, it's an imperative.
Ms. Lucille Brott, NE
Jun 17, 16:31
# 40
Mr. Jan Peterson, CO
Jun 17, 15:50
# 39
The longer we delay, the greater the pain will be for our
children & grandchildren: we owe it to them to make this change
happen quickly!
Ms. Madolyn Crumpton, TX
Jun 17, 10:57
# 38
Time is running out. Set aside power and profit for the few and
do what is right for the rest of us.
Ms. Karen Ciesar, WI
Jun 17, 05:30
# 37
Mrs. Leana Whitlow, CA
Jun 16, 22:39
# 36
Ms. Sue Torreyson, CA
Jun 16, 20:39
# 35
Mrs. rosslyn dahlmann, VI
Jun 16, 20:21
# 34
Mr. John Wheeler, PA
Jun 16, 19:25
# 33
Mr. Ferdinand Puttinger, Austria
Jun 16, 18:29
# 32
Please Let`s be AWARE: At pre our AGE of exciting scientific
discoveries is opening to us the unbelievable view on amazing
interrelations between the complex appearances of whole
evolution since big bang, from atomic properties to dimensions
of boundless universe, but we HUMANS want to give preferences to
commercial-driven short-dated and destructive influences, which
will change eart`s face irreversible! This is an enormous
SELFISH and self-inflicted behavior, because comming generations
will never more have the chance to see the unharmed diversity of
nature`s uniqueness. If we still prefer to be focused mainly on
ongoing excessive economic track, we will always AGAIN come to
the same frustrating conclusion that we don`t really move
forward to future`s urgently needed solutions! AND It`s the most
Appaling witness of Mankind`s incredible DULLNESS which appears
as Paranoiac Schizophrenia Behavior of Everyone: We applaud
loudly when sciences have found some indications of life in
archaeological discoveries on other planets, but we Humans want
to continue destroying stubbornly our wonderful multifarious &
precious EARTH only for selfish whims of greedy & short dated
economic interests. Why is sophisticated Mankind not able to
interrupt this strange behavior by aid of Politics &
Politicians? Politicians should not only promise to strive for
enduring environmental CHANGE at each election. They should
finally indeed implement effectively Measures for promised
CHANGE! Comprehensive Technical Equipement for Global
realisation of GREEN economics is already available at promising
competitive Level. Therefore it`s time for CHANGE if Humans want
to SURVIVE, because nature is reflecting already Human`s
thoughtless behaviour in an unfavorable reaction to compensate
our FATEFUL influence, what will limit the scope considerable
for our greedy lifestyle and therefore also for economic`s
generous revenues in near future! AND WHY is mankind not able to
accept that he is only part of Evolution and Not it`s RULER? Up
to now science has revealed unimaginable interrelations for
deeper Insights into viewable and invisible kinds of Existences
in whole Universe. Not only to get amazing Knowledge about these
existences, but also to widen our cognition for being able to
Perceive our Marginal Role in this Universe. We should learn to
be DEVOTED into our marginal being in contrast to overwhelming
and generous appearance of unique Universe. Being Thankful and
Compassionate to all beings means to recognise our esial
Relatedness to all forms of appearances in Universe, but
specially to those of our precious Earth. And practising
Devotion to our marginal being could make us really Great and
being generous to all Nature`s Creatures. This devotion could
change us to a New Mental existence, feeling Spiritual Kinship
to nature`s beings, what is finally everything what Universe has
created since its Big Bang. To be Honestly Thankful for all
being`s existence let us feel Pure relationship to all
Universe`s appearances and creates desire for treating them
Carefully. Awareness of ient beings evolved in Dialog with
Universe`s appearances and relies for its education into
individual being`s Consciousness furthermore on esial Stimulus
of ambient outside world. Therefore our relationship to all
Universe`s appearances is evident. If we are tasting our being
with all our precious Senses and being Thankful for this Great
Gift, we really practise truthful Devotion and want no more
longer ask ourselves how great is our role in the face of
boundless Universe. This means being Aware of our Awareness and
creates Loving Attitude. Such a mental attitude wants let also
disappear borders of Religious Denominations. INDEED whole
Humankind belongs to one and Universal Spirit of LOVE and
COMPASSION, so Let us Be compassionate and give Love to all
Nature`s Creatures. Or in other Words & More Clearly: We should
Not let RULE our EGO, because Ego based Behavior cannot be
satisfied and wants finally destroy its environment only for
short moments of feeling Saturated! Thank you for your worthy
Attention & Efforts. Kindest regards, AUSTRIA / Europe.
Ms. Grace Adams, CT
Jun 16, 13:14
# 31
We can destroy civilization with business as usual, or we can
raise energy prices 70% to reduce demand by 25% and pay 25% of
cost of energy to fossil fuel firms as Dane geld to get out of
the way, or maybe we can raise energy prices 10% and demand that
utilities yield return on investment to fossil fuel firms for
the equipment bought with that 10% increase.
Name not displayed, CA
Jun 16, 12:11
# 30
It won't happen unless we make it happen and the consequences of
no action are too dire.
Mrs. Brenda Lee, CA
Jun 16, 12:06
# 29
Mr. Keith Augusto, NV
Jun 16, 06:33
# 28
Name not displayed, AZ
Jun 16, 06:25
# 27
Name not displayed, MI
Jun 15, 23:18
# 26
Oil leaks endanger lives, filthy plants endanger lives. We can
have clean air, clean water and soil with renewable, clean
energy.
Mr. Edward Laurson, CO
Jun 15, 18:42
# 25
Name not displayed, CO
Jun 15, 16:31
# 24
Mrs. C. Batista, VT
Jun 15, 14:53
# 23
Don't you want the children to live in Healthy Climate? Please
sign and pass it on so future generations have a chance to live
in and thrive harmoniously in a Viable Biosphere. Thank you!
Mr. Dan Metzger, IL
Jun 15, 06:09
# 22
Let us begin. Let us agree.
Mr. Errol Isenberg, FL
Jun 15, 04:58
# 21
Most world leaders are encouraging their countries to produce
more fossil-fuel based energy, not less. There is technology
available now that would allow us, if the technology is scaled
up, to produce most, if not all, of our needed energy from
renewable sources. DO IT NOW!
Ms. Sallie Park, VA
Jun 14, 21:23
# 20
Dr. Jatinder Sehgal, AZ
Jun 14, 21:22
# 19
Mr. Bradford Woodbury Sr., IL
Jun 14, 13:57
# 18
Mr. Michael O'Brien, CO
Jun 14, 10:35
# 17
It is our one chance to stop the Global Terminal Extinction
Event, if done soon enough.
Mr. Jesse Dellinger, PA
Jun 14, 03:32
# 16
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Mr. John Cook, WA
Jun 13, 12:17
# 15
Although this may lead to furthering Agenda 21 I prefer to face
that further down the road than doing nothing now!
Mr. Jim de Cordova, CA
Jun 13, 11:09
# 14
Mr. Timothy Havel, MA
Jun 13, 08:29
# 13
Ms. Sandra Speicher, CO
Jun 13, 06:36
# 12
Mr. PJ van Staden, South Africa
Jun 13, 03:44
# 11
Mr. David Ferraro, VA
Jun 13, 02:10
# 10
Absolutely necessary for the preservation of humankind. Expect
scorched-earth opposition from the fossil fuel lobby.
Ms. Natasha Salgado, ON
Jun 13, 01:41
# 9
Mr. frank mcclain, CA
Jun 12, 23:20
# 8
I hear Sen Inhofe says the solutions to 'climate change' are
"too costly". Never mind that continuing to burn fossil fuels is
'too stupid". When we humans start doing something because it is
'smart' instead of 'cheap', we may have a thriving planet to
pass on to our great great grandchildren. As of now, it looks
like they'll get a smoldering wreck. We can prevent this. Today
is the day to change course. We can do this. We really can.
Ms. Mary Ch, ON
Jun 12, 09:35
# 7
Please watch shows "SOS Global Warming" on
www.suprememastertv.com
Ms. Stacey Calvert, United Kingdom
Jun 12, 09:08
# 6
Mr. Joseph Wenzel, MN
Jun 12, 05:29
# 5
Ms. Kaileen Reynolds, TX
Jun 12, 04:00
# 4
Mr. Serdar Murat, Austria
Jun 12, 02:55
# 3
Mr. John Forbes, United Kingdom
Jun 11, 21:42
# 2
Name not displayed, VT
Jun 11, 18:51
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Profiles in Courage: A 2 year old child!
By: AGelbert Date: August 3, 2014, 5:13 pm
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