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I have concluded that President Donald Trump should be impeached
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By: AGelbert Date: July 18, 2019, 8:51 pm
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[quote]July 18, 2019
Dear Vermonter,
I have concluded that President Donald Trump should be
impeached.
I do not arrive at this conclusion lightly. The power of
impeachment granted to Congress by our Founding Fathers should
not be casually employed. In our democracy, every deference
should be given to the outcome of every election.
However, after 30 months in office, President Trump has
established a clear pattern of willful disregard for our
Constitution and its system of checks and balances. His
presidency has wrought an unprecedented and unrelenting assault
on the pillars and guardrails of our democracy, including the
rule of law on which our country was founded.
Instead of embracing the fundamental responsibility of every
American president to unite our country, this president has
unleashed a torrent of attacks on fellow citizens based on their
race, gender, religion and ethnic origin.
Instead of respecting the constitutional principle that no
person, including the President of the United States, is above
the law or beyond accountability, this president attacks our
courts and judges and stonewalls Congress in the exercise of its
Article 1 oversight responsibility.
Instead of strengthening the institutional pillars of our
democracy, this president is methodically tearing them down. He
fired the FBI Director and made every effort to derail the
Mueller investigation. He calls for the jailing of political
opponents and pardons political allies. And at every turn, he
demeans, attacks and discredits the free press, dangerously
labeling it as the enemy of the people.
And instead of ensuring fair elections, this president and his
administration have labored to limit the fundamental right of
Americans to vote and welcomed the assistance of hostile foreign
powers in his campaigns.
America�s democracy is resilient, but it is also fragile. Its
stability and progress depend on the consent of the governed, a
respect for the rule of law, and the capacity of our leaders to
inspire trust and confidence in each other and in the federal
government.
On January 20, 2017, President-elect Donald Trump stood on the
West Front of the United States Capitol, placed his left hand on
two Bibles, raised his right hand, and swore to �preserve,
protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.� I
have concluded that he has failed to honor that solemn oath
which, in my view, merits impeachment under our Constitution.
Sincerely,
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Re: Creeping Police State
By: AGelbert Date: July 20, 2019, 2:32 pm
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[quote]Shiggity � 10 hours ago � edited
Remember what it was like before H1B1 visa competition and the
billionaire immigration game? I don't, I'm a millennial. I'll
remember robber baron mega millionaire and billionaire
psychopaths 'explaining' how everything is my fault and I 'just
need to work harder'. Women haven't achieved any kind of
"equality" except the "equality" of sick personality disorders
and obscene mega wealth, Murica!
Get some baby boomers in here to 'explain' the situation better
lol. Maybe some completely out of context anecdotes / completely
out of context macro economic comparisons?
If women think achieving obscene wealth is "equality" with men,
they're fools, pathetic money hungry sociopathic fools.[/quote]
agelbert Shiggity � 2 hours ago � edited
Exactly right. I am a baby boomer and have railed all my life
against the worship of materialism evidenced by the nearly total
commitment my generation had, and still has, to greed and
ambition.
That said, I don't see any evidence that the subsequent
generations are, as a whole, any different.
However, you need to understand that there are elite propaganda
forces in our government that have deliberately shaped this
profit over people and planet world view among the masses.
"The rich executed a coup d��tat that transformed the three
branches of the U.S. government and nearly all institutions,
including the mass media, into wholly owned subsidiaries of the
corporate state." -- Chris Hedges
With the advent of social media, the worship of the self has
gotten more equality destroying extreme, not less. Watch this
video and you will understand what we-the-people, of all genders
and ages, are up against.
Why fascism is so tempting -- and how your data could power it
|&#128552; Yuval Noah Harari
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[quote]Steve_S agelbert � 2 hours ago
Excellent post.
You know, Gene Rodenberry (creator of Star Trek) completely &
totally nailed the US Corporate Government when he created the
Ferenghi aliens whose only priority is Profit & Profit above ALL
ELSE.
The Ferenghi Rules of Acquisition was initially intended as a
tongue in cheek chuckle BUT it became serious and is actually
how the USG & it's Corporate Masters actually deal with people.
People & Governments around the world have finally come to see
it for what it is and it doesn't look good.
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agelbert Steve_S � 10 minutes ago
&#128077; Thank you. I agree the Ferengi aliens are reflections
of what was a hidden reality in the US (that is now
in-our-faces).
There was another Star Trek episode that reminds me of our
anti-democratic situation. The plot is that some human dude (he
was from Earth) had violated the Star Trek 'Prime Directive' by
interfering on another planet, so the crew of the Starship
Enterprise had been tasked to stop the 'interference'. The dude
had set up a fascist government because it was &#128520; "more
efficient".
The MO of his government reminds me of the Trump &#129408;
wrecking crew MO.
Sure, Trump is a symptom, not the cause. But, his cruel,
arrogant abusive mindset is representative of those fascist
oligarchs who put him there.
I checked out some Hitler quotes the other day. I challenge you
to find any difference between Hitler's mindset in the following
quotes and that of Trump:
�If you win, you need not have to explain...If you lose, you
should not be there to explain!�&#8213; Adolf Hitler
�Do not compare yourself to others. If you do so, you are
insulting yourself.�&#8213; Adolf Hitler
�I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.�
&#8213; Adolf Hitler
�The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.� &#8213;
Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Letters and Notes
�The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their
intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is
enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective
propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on
these in slogans until the last member of the public understands
what you want him to understand by your slogan.� &#8213; Adolf
Hitler
�The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant
and regular employment of violence.�&#8213; Adolf Hitler
Fascists like Trump count on public's lack of introspection.
Hitler and Trump are birds of a feather.
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Oppressive Nations are always Fearful Nations.
By: AGelbert Date: July 21, 2019, 1:12 pm
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[quote]Shiggity � a day ago
Remember what it was like before H1B1 visa competition and the
billionaire immigration game? I don't, I'm a millennial. I'll
remember robber baron mega millionaire and billionaire
psychopaths 'explaining' how everything is my fault and I 'just
need to work harder'. Women haven't achieved any kind of
"equality" except the "equality" of sick personality disorders
and obscene mega wealth, Murica!
Get some baby boomers in here to 'explain' the situation better
lol. Maybe some completely out of context anecdotes / completely
out of context macro economic comparisons?
If women think achieving obscene wealth is "equality" with men,
they're fools, pathetic money hungry sociopathic fools.[/quote]
agelbert Shiggity
Exactly right. I am a baby boomer and have railed all my life
against the worship of materialism evidenced by the nearly total
commitment my generation had, and still has, to greed and
ambition.
That said, I don't see any evidence that the subsequent
generations are, as a whole, any different.
However, you need to understand that there are elite propaganda
forces in our government that have deliberately shaped this
profit over people and planet world view among the masses.
"The rich executed a coup d��tat that transformed the three
branches of the U.S. government and nearly all institutions,
including the mass media, into wholly owned subsidiaries of the
corporate state." -- Chris Hedges
With the advent of social media, the worship of the self has
gotten more equality destroying extreme, not less. Watch this
video and you will understand what we-the-people, of all genders
and ages, are up against.
Why fascism is so tempting -- and how your data could power it
|&#128552; Yuval Noah Harari
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[quote]Steve_S agelbert
Excellent post.
You know, Gene Rodenberry (creator of Star Trek) completely &
totally nailed the US Corporate Government when he created the
Ferenghi aliens whose only priority is Profit & Profit above ALL
ELSE.
The Ferenghi Rules of Acquisition was initially intended as a
tongue in cheek chuckle BUT it became serious and is actually
how the USG & it's Corporate Masters actually deal with people.
People & Governments around the world have finally come to see
it for what it is and it doesn't look good.
REF:
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agelbert Steve_S
&#128077; Thank you. I agree the Ferengi aliens are reflections
of what was a hidden reality in the US (that is now
in-our-faces).
There was another Star Trek episode that reminds me of our
anti-democratic situation. The plot is that some human dude (he
was from Earth) had violated the Star Trek 'Prime Directive' by
interfering on another planet, so the crew of the Starship
Enterprise had been tasked to stop the 'interference'. The dude
had set up a fascist government because it was &#128520; "more
efficient".
The MO of his government reminds me of the Trump &#129408;
wrecking crew MO.
Sure, Trump is a symptom, not the cause. But, his cruel,
arrogant abusive mindset is representative of those fascist
oligarchs who put him there.
I checked out some Hitler quotes the other day. I challenge you
to find any difference between Hitler's mindset in the following
quotes and that of Trump:
�If you win, you need not have to explain...If you lose, you
should not be there to explain!�&#8213; Adolf Hitler
�Do not compare yourself to others. If you do so, you are
insulting yourself.�&#8213; Adolf Hitler
�I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.�
&#8213; Adolf Hitler
�The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.� &#8213;
Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Letters and Notes
�The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their
intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is
enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective
propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on
these in slogans until the last member of the public understands
what you want him to understand by your slogan.� &#8213; Adolf
Hitler
�The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant
and regular employment of violence.�&#8213; Adolf Hitler
Fascists like Trump count on public's lack of introspection.
Hitler and Trump are birds of a feather.
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[quote]Steve_S agelbert
Ohhh My ! Yes I know that particular episode very well. Original
Series.
Regarding the Hitler Quotes. I studied Nazi history extensively
and the militarism it raised (uni study) and once Trump was on
the campaign trail I CAUGHT IT. He actually made statements &
speeches which echo Hitler to a T. More Recent stuff from "them"
continues to echo AH with 21st Century revisions. Even more
disturbing is that there are Jewish Rabbis in the USA & Israel
calling for the total destruction & annulation of ALL
Muslims.... and a few of these characters are Survivors of
Concentration Camps and THEY are calling for genocide of a
religious group. And then we have the Trump to Israel Marriage
which is baffling to say the least.[/quote]
agelbert Steve_S
&#128077;&#128077;&#128077; I never studied Nazi history like
you did. In high school I read the Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich by William Shirer. That was pretty much the extent of what
I knew about them.
I've picked up a little more over the years. Recently I ran into
an outstanding book ("All Honorable Men") about the NAZI world
view. You have probably read it, but if you haven't, I'm sort of
doing a book report on it on my forum in a series of posts.
If you have time, please check it out and tell me what you
think.
COPYRIGHT 1950, BY JAMES STEWART MARTIN
SNIPPET:
Quote
In this book I have tried to tell the story of an important
problem and some of the things that happened when we tried to
deal with it. Though many of the events occurred in Germany,
before and during the military occupation, they seemed in an
increasing degree to be echoes of something more fundamental
that was happening back in the United States. For whatever
reason, the larger pattern is a repetition of what followed
after World War I; but the pace has been quicker, as though
greater powers were moving more rapidly toward a more
catastrophic result.
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[quote]Steve_S agelbert � 4 hours ago
Ohh I got out of studying that sort of thing. Life priorities �
One thing that stands above everything else. Dictatorships are
oppressive by their very nature and Oppressive Nations are
always Fearful Nations. Fearful Nations become bullies and
demand compliance from others or suffer consequences imposed by
the bullies. At this moment in time, the single most Paranoid
Nation on the planet is the USA, fearing every shadow, every
opinion and seeking to find the boogeymen behind every bush.
This of course happens when someone bullies, threatens, coerces
others resulting in human & civil abuses. When you have a Nation
that spends more on it's military than anything else, when there
is no actual real wars...
Consider it this way... The USA spends more on Militarism than
China, but China spends more on Wind, Solar, Hydro & Nuclear
Power Generation than it's own massive 3.5 million man military.
Given that info, plus the fact that the US now owes over $22
Trillion Dollars on it's National Debt, which it has absolutely
no hope of ever paying off (or keeping up with the interest
alone) is destined for only ONE THING and that is Conflict. What
do we see being "prepped up" right now, big militarism, lot's of
threats, lot's of "sanctions of one sort or another", attempts
to provoke & coerce nations. Luckily Russia & China have been
BLUNT that they will not be provoked or coerced into an action,
that the USA will have to fire first if it wants conflict. So
now Trumpy is fishing for someone else to have a War
with...[/quote]
agelbert Steve_S � 3 minutes ago � edited
I agree with you 100%. Principle and moral fiber are absent from
the US government and the fascist olicarchs that corrupt it.
Scratch a fascist bully and you expose a coward.
The despicable Epstein modus vivendi is not an outlier. The
elite SCUM in the USA are all part of that cesspool of sexual
predators protected by the "Intelligence" (see: POLICE STATE)
agencies AND the corrupted judiciary.
That was also true in NAZI Germany. Sexual abuse of minors and
routine depravity is another mark of fascist societies. We are
there. &#128544;
[quote]Steve_S agelbert � an hour ago
Well, I've enough on my personal plate to deal with in the time
I have left and many things to complete in that time.
My view on things are maybe a bit different (being terminal does
that) as I am not looking for any deluded answers, I just see
what I see and experience what I experience. Like when I worked
in the arctic and return recently to shock at what changes I
saw... which I should not have in my entire lifetime or possibly
two. Diverse life experiences with Military, Government, High
Tech Corporate and other things like advocacy for Parents &
Children's Rights have shaped me because I have seen & dealt
with things from a different angle than most. I've also been
witness to corruption, racism, discrimination and assorted
abuses throughout a lot of that. There is so much Hypocrisy and
Optical Justice, I fear humanity is deep in the stew! Luckily, I
only have a few (< 5) years left and I won't be here to see All
Hell break loose. I'm mostly worried for my 3 surviving
daughters and my girlfriend's futures in this crazy world.
Bigger issues with climate change are being totally ignored or
downplayed, the entire cascading effect that ripples through the
eco system. Ongoing droughts in food producing places will
continue to reduce food production. Increasing storms and bad
weather will force movement of people causing more migration &
tensions. There is so much general anger which no one knows how
to direct that Bad Actors are playing on that to focus their
agendas, which will only result in conflict. Powder Keg issues
such as Race & Religion are being further manipulated as well as
potential triggers.
At the Major Cross Roads and which direction will humanity take,
or where will it be pushed to ? Who the hell knows at this
point, it really boils down to the Joe & Jane on the street to
collectively stand up in unison & make change happen. Extinction
Revolution ? Business will continue to make consumers for profit
and pillage the world. Governments are run by business interests
(with the exception of the Chinese, they saw that coming) so no
help there. The Great Gazoo (Flintstones Reference) won't land
in his spaceship and fix everything either. Unfortunately, there
are too many who want to "Light it all up" if they can't get
their way, so they'll destroy everything they can in spite.
cascade effect as I put it:
Ice melts off land by tons, land uplifts, affects tectonic
plates, causes plate shift / movement, resulting in quakes and
increasing volcanic activity along the plates, eject more into
the air and harming life in many ways. Meanwhile that melted ice
flows into the seas, raising sea levels, adding all that extra
tonnage of water into a moving mass also over the tectonic
plates, and changing current flows in sea & air while
evaporating putting more rain clouds into action, creating
bigger storms and hurricanes / monsoons while modifying other
air currents that result in more droughts & heat waves in other
regions.... won't touch changes in animals, vegetation and all
the rest....
The whole damned pile is INTERCONNECTED and the domino effect
rolls through like nothing else and people, orgs, groups, cherry
pick 1 or 2 and run with it... they cannot grasp (don't want to)
the larger picture in it's fully horrifying glory !
BW: Do a News Search on "Arctic Heat Wave" - past month. Google
would do but duckduckgo gives more & better. Records are
breaking at the highest northern points and not just a
bit.[/quote]
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The &#128121; Republican Party
By: AGelbert Date: July 21, 2019, 4:45 pm
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July 19, 2019
The Ilhan Omar quote Trump bastardized came from her
conversation with John Nichols, who joins us to look at US
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MARC STEINER Welcome to The Real News Network. I�m Marc Steiner.
Good to have you with us.
Donald Trump�s recent attacks on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley, and Ilhan Omar were not only
racist, but in his subsequent tweets and diatribes in North
Carolina, when I watched the news clips, when I saw news clips
from the 30s, are dangerously reminiscent of people like Adolf
Hitler and Mussolini. For us to ignore this, we do at our own
peril. Maybe I�m taking it too far. We�ll find out in this
conversation.
Our political analyst today is someone who sees much of this in
his writing for The Nation and other things he�s done. He wrote
an incredible piece in The Nation on Ilhan Omar. We�re talking
about John Nichols who is The Nation�s National Affairs
Correspondent, host of the podcast �Next Left� for The Nation,
author of Horsemen of the Trumpocalypse: A Field Guide to the
Most Dangerous People in America and co-author with Bob
McChesney of People Get Ready: The Fight Against a Jobless
Economy and a Citizenless Democracy. I can never get that word
right, but John, welcome. Good to have you with us.
JOHN NICHOLS I think you did pretty well on �Trumpocalypse.�
MARC STEINER [laughs] It�s the �citizenless.�
JOHN NICHOLS [laughs] It�s the word for our times. Yes, yes.
MARC STEINER So it�s interesting, the two pieces you wrote in
The Nation most recently about Donald Trump and racism and what
is going on there. And then your conversation with Ilhan Omar
and your defense of her, I think were really important and I
want to talk about what you think that really is and what this
means. Let me begin. I think there is a piece from Donald Trump
where he accuses Ilhan Omar of hating Americans.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP Representative Ilhan Omar, [crowd boos]
she looks down with contempt on the hard-working Americans,
saying that �ignorance is pervasive in many parts of this
country.� [crowd boos and murmurs].
MARC STEINER And then, in �Next Life� when you interviewed Ilhan
Omar� as you said, your premiere guest, your first guest on your
podcast� she had this to say.
CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN OMAR And so, the only leverage you have is
that you are part of this contract and you can be part of the
negotiations in how many people get settled in your state. And
so, it is not that they might not be knowledgeable about this,
but they use it as a tool to stir up hate and division. And
ignorance really is pervasive in many parts of this country. And
as someone who was raised by educators, I really like to inform
people about things that they might be ignorant to� willingly or
unwillingly.
MARC STEINER How you can parse out one small phrase from a more
lengthy answer, trying to explain a situation in Minnesota that
gets contorted into this now diatribe against Ilhan Omar and the
rest.
JOHN NICHOLS Well, it�s a fascinating circumstance. And I have
covered Donald Trump for a very long time and seeing again and
again how he distorts things and how he, you know, frankly turns
an innocent statement into something that sounds very nefarious
or very dangerous, but I�ve never been in the middle of it
myself, so it�s kind of a fascinating circumstance this time.
When I heard him say that, I knew that it had come from our
interview and I was struck by the fact that it was so directly
opposite of what she was talking about. She wasn�t attacking
working-class Americans. She wasn�t criticizing working-class
Americans. Her statement� and it�s part of a much longer
discussion� had to do with politicians who seek to play on the
complexity and frankly the lack of knowledge that all of us have
as regards to the intricacies of immigration and refugee law,
seek to play on that in order to create fear and to promote
racist and frankly xenophobic thinking.
And the interesting thing was that if you listen to what she�s
saying, she is saying that she wants to bring information to the
process. She wants to dialogue with people. The broader context
of our interview was fascinating because she talked again and
again about times where she�s approached Republicans on the
floor and had good conversation with them, where she�s worked
with people across lines of partisanship and ideology. And so,
far from condemning or attacking people she might disagree with,
what Ilhan Omar was doing in our conversation was talking about
how to break through the spin, how to break through the
divisiveness. And for the president to turn it in the way that
he did is to my mind a deeply troubling thing. Now, you make
comparisons to folks in�
MARC STEINER I did.
JOHN NICHOLS Yeah. In Europe and things of that nature. I don�t
necessarily go there. I will go to a long and unfortunate
history within the United States of demonization of immigrants,
demonization of people of color, and things that have been
done�If you go back and you look at some of the rhetoric of the
1910s and 1920s in this country, and again if you look at some
of what was said in the 1950s and 1960s, you see very similar
patterns. And I don�t think that Ilhan Omar necessarily compares
in every way to everyone throughout that history, but I do think
that she is in this case a victim of something that has been
very much a part of the American experience. And the attempt to
make the immigrant the newcomer to the country seem to be
dangerous, seem to be threatening, simply because that person
may disagree with you politically. And that juxtaposition is a
really unsettling and troubling one because what it suggests is
something that concerned Abraham Lincoln.
Abraham Lincoln talked a lot about the notion that people who
had come recently� in his time: Irish immigrants, German
immigrants� once they had come to this country to become part of
this country, he argued that they were part of an extended
conversation that went back to the founding of the republic,
went back to the Declaration of Independence. And Lincoln went
out of his way to say that newcomers were no less a part of that
conversation, had no less a place in that conversation than the
descendants of the founders. It was a very important message.
And Trump seems to be openly at war with that notion, openly at
war with the idea that someone who maybe came to this country 20
years ago or 30 years ago, is somehow less free to criticize the
country than the rest of us, than those of us who may have
deeper roots or more history. Boy, when we get into that game,
we really do divide this country in the ugliest and most
dangerous of ways.
MARC STEINER Well, I want to come back to two things you said. I
do want to come back to the earlier thing about Mussolini and
Hitler and I understand what you�re saying. I want to play in a
minute here this piece from Trump that ends up in this chant and
talk a bit about that. You know, I think what the difference
perhaps now, John, is that we are in a world post the Civil
Rights Movement, post the growth of the union movement, post the
time of when we ended segregation, and a new group of� I�m going
to call them� white nationalists in part have taken over the
executive branch, are running rampant through our system,
tearing down things. Every regulation that protects workers and
the environment is just being torn asunder. And the rhetoric is
fearsome against people of color and fearsome against immigrants
and it�s reached fever pitch. The difference now it seems to me
though is that after that long struggle, these folks are in
power. And that seems to be very different than some previous
moments in our history when that really wasn�t the case
completely.
JOHN NICHOLS Well, look, I would caution you again to go back to
some of our history. And I�ll talk about two things here. Number
one, in 1924 when Robert M. La Follette ran for President of the
United States with support from activists in the NAACP, W.E.B.
Dubois, and others. When La Follette ran, one of the reasons
that he got such traction was because the Ku Klux Klan had
become so very dominant within both the Democratic and the
Republican parties at their conventions. And this is an
important thing to understand. I think we reflect on our own
history sometimes so casually and sometimes without a lot of
perspective, that we forget we had times in this country within
the last century where the Ku Klux Klan was a major force not
merely marching in the streets of cities, but in our politics,
influencing our politics.
And again, I would suggest to you that in the early 1950s,
during the height of the Red Scare, yes, that was a targeting of
people who were accused of being communists or fellow travelers.
But there was also so much targeting of the Civil Rights
Movement, of labor organizations in that. So there�s a long
history in this country of people being in power and demonizing
immigrants, people of color, those who raise political
challenges. So that�s one part of it, Marc, and the only other
part I would suggest to you is�I�m finishing a book now on Henry
Wallace who was Franklin Roosevelt�s Vice President, and in
1944, 75 years ago, Henry Wallace wrote a� I think 43&#8242; or
44�� wrote an essay for The New York Times on what he referred
to as �American fascism.�
And it�s an interesting thing that at that time, in the midst of
World War II, Wallace said that it was important to understand
that there could be an American fascism, that it would be very
different from a lot of European fascism. It wouldn�t take the
same form. And yet, it would have [inaudible] the core concern,
and that is a division of people along lines of race and class
and ethnicity and national origin. And that divisiveness would
be used to empower economic elites. Now this is Wallace writing
in the 1940s, and I really invite you. If you go back and read
Henry Wallace�s essay from that time, it sounds an awfully lot
like now.
MARC STEINER No, and it does.
JOHN NICHOLS So all I�ll tell you is the historical roots are
there.
MARC STEINER No, no. The historic roots are there and I want to
play this clip here. You know, one of things I said to you
before we went on the air and I�ve said to numerous times over
the years, John, is one of the reasons I love talking with you
is because I can sometimes get [grunts] and get really negative
saying, �this is like 1877.� And then, John, you bring up
[laughs] Henry Wallace and the fight with La Follette. It�s
good, which I love. That�s good. Thank you.
JOHN NICHOLS No, it�s in 1924 and 1944. Yeah. It�s a long
historical discussion.
MARC STEINER So, but let�s take a quick. Before we run, let�s
take a quick listen to Trump at this rally talk about Ilhan Omar
and the chant that comes after this.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP When you see the four Congresswomen�Oh,
isn�t that lovely? [crowd boos] Representative Ilhan Omar.
[crowd boos] Omar has a history of launching vicious
anti-Semitic screeds. [crowd chants �Send her back!�]
MARC STEINER All right. So. Father Coughlin, you can leave
[inaudible] and laugh for a minute. [laughs] But what I see here
is a dangerous sign. I mean, this is�What you�re talking about,
Wallace�s essay, I know that essay you�re talking about. And we
are living in a time of a huge divide in this country and it�s
driven by this fear. And that fear drives what he just did in
that crowd. That�s a danger zone.
JOHN NICHOLS Yeah. Oh, I think it is. And again, this notion of
�send her back� or �send him back� or �send them back� is hardly
new. And it�s one that we have heard at various times in our
history, and we�ve heard it used in various ways. Sometimes it
is used against immigrants. One of the important things to
remember is that during the Red Scare, the first Red Scare of
1919-1920, and then the second Red Scare of the 1950s. In each
of those cases, there was a massive targeting of immigrants and
of immigrant groups that�And the interesting thing was, these
were people who had come to America, who had become citizens,
who were fully part of the American experiment, and yet were
suddenly targeted. Why were they targeted? Because they believed
in the full promise of the Constitution, their First Amendment,
their Bill of Rights.
They believed they could speak up on issues, and speak out, and
disagree with the government, or disagree with those in power,
that they could organize unions, and they could organize civil
rights groups. And these immigrants were attacked for their
outspokenness, for their full embrace of the best promise of the
American experiment� that we all have a voice in this discourse.
And that�s what I think we�re seeing now. And I think we have to
be, we have to be very focused on that. I think we have to be
very conscious of it because it is important not to lose sight
of what Donald Trump is really, in many ways, trying to do here.
It�s a two�I think it�s a two-step thing. Number one, it is of
course to demonize, to otherize the immigrant. Even in this
case, people who aren�t immigrants, people who have deep roots
in this country. Remember, Ilhan Omar�s been in this country for
decades. And the other three members of Congress that he
references were born in this country.
MARC STEINER Right.
JOHN NICHOLS And so, this is first off, sort of, an assault on
immigrants. But then much more deeply, an assault on in this
case women of color. And finally, finally, an assault on
dissenters, an assault on those who disagree with Donald Trump,
and even in some cases with their own party. And to my mind,
that is�We really ought not lose sight of that. We ought not
lose sight of that first off because it�s what�s happening in my
view, but also because this has deep roots in America, in the
American struggle, and we have beaten this before. We have taken
this on, and we have said no, that is not, that is not what
America is about. And I really think it�s very vital that people
do so again.
And I will remind you that when Joe McCarthy, a Republican, was
doing things like this in the early 1950s, it was other
Republicans like Margaret Chase Smith who stepped up and really
shut him down, or at least challenged him on it. And I would ask
you the question, where are those Republicans today? They are
needed today. They need to be stepping up in big numbers and
saying, Donald Trump is wrong. And it was horrifying to me when
the House of Representatives voted on condemning Donald Trump.
Instead of, you know, taking that opportunity to step up and do
as Margaret Chase Smith had did to say no, 98% of Republicans in
the House voted not to condemn Trump. And that�s a, in many
ways, to me an even more troubling thing than what Trump says.
MARC STEINER Well, I want to say, John, as we have to go now
that it�s really always good to hear you because I think it�s
important to have a, kind of, positive message in terms of where
we take this fight and not allowing us to be �oh, woe is me�
when looking at our history and our future. So John, thank you
so much for all you do and your writing. And I look forward to
your next book and talking to you sooner than that.
JOHN NICHOLS I�m honored to be with you, my friends. Good
conversation.
MARC STEINER Take care. John Nichols, The National Correspondent
for The Nation. And I�m Marc Steiner here for The Real News
Network. Thank you all for joining us. Take care.
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No-one should be surprised. The Rs becoming the White Supremacy
[party has been in the works since the Willie Horton dog whistle
by Lee Atwater. The party has not so much become Trump's as he
is their creature, their perfect embodiment.
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True.
[center]Donald &#129408; Trump�s pal Steve &#129421; Scalise
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Daniel Cotter &#128077;| 10:55 pm EDT July 21, 2019

Republican Congressman Steve Scalise, the House Minority Whip,
was on Jeanine Pirro on Saturday night. He was defending Donald
Trump and his party, and doing what all of the right appears to
do without having anything else to talk about: attack �The
Squad� and lie about what it is the Congresswomen believe in.
Scalise stated in part: �The Squad is the face of the Democrat
Party now. They stand for socialism, open borders, the
anti-Semitic BDS movement, free healthcare for illegal
immigrants, & the job-killing Green New Deal. Republicans &
Donald Trump won�t stop battling this radical, anti-American
agenda.�
It is hard to take seriously anyone who says �Democrat Party�
instead of �Democratic Party.� But that aside, Scalise is the
face of the Republican Party. He attended a conference of white
supremacists in the early 2000s where &#128520; David Duke
headlined. Scalise later claimed he was not aware that the
European-American Unity and Rights Organization (or �EURO�),
which was founded by Duke, had a �racist nature.� Nothing about
the name of the group would suggest a group of whites banding
together, and Duke being the headliner would not have been any
clue to anyone in 2002. Sure.
In 2019, Scalise voted against reauthorizing the Violence
Against Women Act, something he was against in its original
iteration in 2013. Scalise appears to be the water boy for
Trump, saying this last week when Speaker Nancy Pelosi had the
audacity to address the racist comments from Trump on the House
Floor: �What Nancy Pelosi just did on the House floor was
disgraceful. We should be spending our time on the floor of the
People�s House solving actual problems- like the crisis at our
southern border- not harassing Donald Trump. I�ll be addressing
the chamber shortly. Tune in!�
Scalise has been a �nay� on any of a variety of actual problems
that affect women or minorities in his time in Congress. In
addition to the VAWA, he has opposed equal pay for gender, he
voted against repeal of �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell� and takes a
position that veterans should not be permitted to have access to
medical marijuana even if in a state that permits and their
doctors to prescribe it. This is a truly idiotic and �radical,
anti-American agenda.�
Daniel is a lawyer writing and teaching about SCOTUS, and is the
author of the book �The Chief Justices� about the SCOTUS as seen
through the center seat.
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As Ilhan Omar Said, Trump Is a Fascist -- and His Rallies Prove
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[center]As Ilhan Omar &#128077; Said, Trump Is a Fascist -- and
His Rallies Prove It[/center]
HENRY A. GIROUX, TRUTHOUT
Ilhan Omar is right in calling Trump a fascist. One need look no
further than his spectacles of white nationalist fear and racism
that seek to turn politics into a grandiose theater of nativism,
while presenting the head of state as a kind of demigod. There
is also his assumption -- reinforced by the GOP and conservative
media -- that citizenship is the exclusive terrain of white
people.
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he Proven Strategy to Beat Donald Trump in 2020!
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