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Oil=Money=Power: Daniel Sheehan 2019 Class #14
By: AGelbert Date: June 14, 2019, 7:15 pm
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How did we get here? (Oil=Money=Power): Daniel Sheehan 2019 Clas
s #15
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Exploring Strategies of Resistance: Daniel Sheehan 2019 Class #1
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By: AGelbert Date: June 17, 2019, 7:24 pm
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Racist OIL-igarchy Full Spectrum Dominance Belligerence is Destr
oying the Biosphere
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Gaming the system for profit over people, particu;arly indigenou
s people, and planet.
By: AGelbert Date: June 22, 2019, 4:33 pm
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[quote]"As I tell my Syracuse University College of Law
students, anti-corruption laws can end up fostering corruption
because every legal sword can be fashioned into a legal shield."
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The Oil Pipeline Lawyers for the North Dakota 🦕🦖
Hydrocarbon Hellspawn made sure to limit oil pipeline laying
requests to only 499 feet of pipe at a time to the gooberment.
That is because these clever bastards found that, for requests
below 500 ft of oil pipeline, you do not have to submit an
environmental impact statement. So, they just keep laying that
pipeline, 499 feet at a time. You just cannot make this stuff
up.
Daniel Sheehan took them to court but they are still gaming the
system for profit over people, particularly indigenous people,
and planet.
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The Unimaginable Reality of American Concentration Camps
By: Surly1 Date: June 23, 2019, 6:27 am
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The ever-reliable Masha Gessen gets to work on the real Children
of Men situation happing in the FSoA and the attempts of the
right wing language police to obfuscate the truth.
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The debate over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s use of the term
“concentration camp” is not about language or facts. It is about
how we perceive history, ourselves, and ourselves in
history.Photograph by Jose Luis Gonzalez / Reuters
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>Like
many arguments, the fight over the term “<a
href="
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/>camp</a>” is mostly an argument about something entirely
different. It is not about terminology. Almost refreshingly, it
is not an argument about facts. This argument is about
imagination, and it may be a deeper, more important conversation
than it seems.</p> <p>In a Monday-evening live stream,
Representative <a
href="
HTML https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/07/23/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-historic-win-and-the-future-of-the-democratic-party">Alexandria<br
/>Ocasio-Cortez</a>, of New York, called the U.S.’s
detention facilities for migrants “concentration
camps.” On Tuesday, she <a
href="
HTML https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1140968240073662466"<br
/>target="_blank" rel="noopener">tweeted</a> a link to an <a
href="
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/>target="_blank" rel="noopener">article</a> in <em>Esquire</em>
in which Andrea Pitzer, a historian of concentration camps, was
quoted making the same assertion: that the United States has
created a “concentration camp system.” Pitzer argued
that “mass detention of civilians without a trial”
was what made the camps concentration camps. The full text of
Ocasio-Cortez’s tweet was “This administration has
established concentration camps on the southern border of the
United States for immigrants, where they are being brutalized
with dehumanizing conditions and dying. This is not hyperbole.
It is the conclusion of expert analysis.” Hackles were
immediately raised, tweets fired, and, less than an hour and a
half later, Representative Liz Cheney, of Wyoming, <a
href="
HTML https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1140988893627478018"<br
/>target="_blank" rel="noopener">tweeted</a>, “Please @AOC
do us all a favor and spend just a few minutes learning some
actual history. 6 million Jews were exterminated in the
Holocaust. You demean their memory and disgrace yourself with
comments like this.” A high-pitched battle of tweets and
op-eds took off down the much travelled dead-end road of
arguments about historical analogies. These almost never go
well, and they always devolve into a virtual shouting match if
the Holocaust, the Nazis, or Adolf Hitler is invoked. One side
always argues that nothing can be as bad as the Holocaust,
therefore nothing can be compared to it; the other argues that
the cautionary lesson of history can be learned only by
acknowledging the similarities between now and
then.</p> <p>But the argument is really about how we
perceive history, ourselves, and ourselves in history. We learn
to think of history as something that has already happened, to
other people. Our own moment, filled as it is with minutiae
destined to be forgotten, always looks smaller in comparison. As
for history, the greater the event, the more mythologized it
becomes. Despite our best intentions, the myth becomes a
caricature of sorts. Hitler, or Stalin, comes to look like a
two-dimensional villain—someone whom contemporaries could
not have seen as a human being. The Holocaust, or the Gulag, are
such monstrous events that the very idea of rendering them in
any sort of gray scale seems monstrous, too. This has the effect
of making them, essentially, unimaginable. In crafting the story
of something that should never have been allowed to happen, we
forge the story of something that couldn’t possibly have
happened. Or, to use a phrase only slightly out of context,
something that can’t happen here.</p> <p>A logical
fallacy becomes inevitable. If this can’t happen, then the
thing that <em>is</em>happening is not it. What we see in real
life, or at least on television, can’t possibly be the
same monstrous phenomenon that we have collectively decided is
unimaginable. I have had many conversations about this in
Russia. People who know Vladimir Putin and his inner circle have
often told me that they are not the monsters that I and others
have described. Yes, they have overseen assassinations,
imprisonments, and wars, but they are not thoroughly terrible,
my interlocutors have claimed—they are not like Stalin and
his henchmen. In other words, they are not the monsters of our
collective historical imagination. They are today’s
flesh-and-blood monsters, and this makes them seem somehow less
monstrous.</p> <p>Anything that happens here and now is
normalized, not solely through the moral failure of
contemporaries but simply by virtue of actually existing. Allow
me to illustrate. My oldest son, who spent his early childhood
in a Russian hospital, was for many years extremely small for
his age. I spent useless hours upon hours in my study in Moscow,
where we then lived, poring over C.D.C. growth charts. No matter
how many times I looked, I couldn’t place him—he was
literally off the chart. As far as the C.D.C. was concerned, my
son, at his age, height, and weight, was unimaginable. When he
was four, I took him to see a pediatrician in Boston. She
entered his measurements into her computer, and a red dot
appeared on the chart. I felt my body finally relax; my child
was no longer impossible! He was on the chart. Then I realized
that the pediatrician was working with an interactive chart.
(This was in the early aughts, and there weren’t any
available to me at home.) She had just put him in the system.
His little red dot was still below the lowest, fifth-percentile
curve. He was still the smallest child of his age. But a sort of
cognitive trick had been performed. My son’s size had been
documented, and this made him possible.</p> <p><a
href="
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/>Trump</a> has <a
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/>this trick</a> on Americans many times, beginning with his ver
y
election: first, he was impossible, and then he was President.
Did that mean that the impossible had happened—an
extremely hard concept to absorb—or did it mean that Trump
was not the catastrophe so many of us had assumed he would be? A
great many Americans chose to think that he had been secretly
Presidential all along or was about to become Presidential; they
chose to accept that, now that he was elected, his Presidency
would become conceivable. The choice between these two positions
is at the root of the argument between Ocasio-Cortez and the
critics of her concentration-camp comment. It is not an argument
about language. Ocasio-Cortez and her opponents agree that the
term “concentration camp” refers to something so
horrible as to be unimaginable. (For this reason, mounting a
defense of Ocasio-Cortez’s position by explaining that not
all concentration camps were death camps misses the point.) It
is the choice between thinking that whatever is happening in
reality is, by definition, acceptable, and thinking that some
actual events in our current reality are fundamentally
incompatible with our concept of ourselves—not just as
Americans but as human beings—and therefore unimaginable.
The latter position is immeasurably more difficult to
hold—not so much because it is contentious and politically
risky, as attacks on Ocasio-Cortez continue to demonstrate, but
because it is cognitively strenuous. It makes one’s brain
implode. It will always be a minority
position.</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <f
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a staff writer at The New Yorker, is the author of ten books,
including, most recently, “<a
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/>data-amzn-asin="159463453X">The Future Is History: How
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The REASON all that abuse of the "other" came about NO
W lies in U.S. history.
By: AGelbert Date: June 23, 2019, 1:59 pm
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[quote]Ocasio-Cortez’s tweet was “This administration has
established concentration camps on the southern border of the
United States for immigrants, where they are being brutalized
with dehumanizing conditions and dying. This is not
hyperbole.[/quote]
TRUE. Liz Cheney's "rebuttal" to the irrefutable truth that AOC
tweets is typical Republican baloney. Liz Cheney, like her Darth
Vader daddy, Dick Cheney, is a fascist. So, she will obviously
do all she can to pretend she is an "enemy" of the fascistoid
love of abusing the "other" through concentration camps! That
requires sophistry at an Orwellian level. What fascists want to
do is, of course, brand the truth teller (i.e. AOC) as a
"hysterical liar". Anyone that has read the Doomstead Diner mad
dentist's fascism enabling defenses of Capitalism, or fascsit
enabler Ashvin's wont for accusing the debater of "projection",
knows how that underhanded fallacious debating technique
"works".
I agree with the article author Masha Gessen that the debate
focus is misplaced, but I disagree with her take on WHY past
history gets "disconnected" from present reality. THAT, thanks
to our fascist enabling media, is quite MENS REA deliberate.
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AOC 👍 is clearly pointing at evidence of the Fascist
modus operandi, now happily supported by Trump loving =
Republicans. Masha Gessen doesn't want to look at how U.S.
Policy history shaped the current fascist practices here. Sure,
Russia is fascist now and they did have gulags under Stalin's
"Socialist" dictatorship. But, the REASON all that abuse of the
"other" came about NOW, both here and there, lies in U.S.
history.
Of course, nobody in our media wants to go there, so I will:
Franklin D. Roosevelt made a HUGE mistake (these were the SAME
elite Wall Street bastards that had plotted to install Fascism
in the USA after FDR was elected) in letting them into the OSS
to "rehabilitate themselves with wartime service" after they
were caught red handed STILL funding German corporations AFTER
the U.S. was at war with Germany!
THEY are the ones that targeted Russian Socialism as soon as it
was clear (February 3, 1943) that Russia was going to beat
Germany.
THEY are the ones that formed the core of the CIA.
THEY were the ones that, with Truman's full approval, went
around the U.S. Congress to use over one Trillion :o dollars
worth of recovered treasure the Japanese had hidden to FINANCE
closet FASCIST politicians in post war Europe against the heroic
Partisans (who had fought the Nazis during the European
occupation), in order to keep Socialism from taking hold in
Europe.
That treasure SHOULD have been used to lower our national debt.
Most of Europe would have gone Socialist, and the world would be
a much better place now, if the "Anderson Trust" had not been
illegally created. Truman and his Department of War fascist
handlers committed TREASON to help fascism grow in Europe AND in
the USA. It worked beyond their wildest, murderous, fascist
dreams.
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Does a wild bear poop in the woods?
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U.S in light of the controversial statement of Rep. Alexandria
Ocasio-Cortez that refugees are kept in concentration camps
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ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ The United States is running
concentration camps on our southern border and that is exactly
what they are. They are concentration camps.
GREG WILPERT It’s The Real News Network and I’m Greg Wilpert in
Baltimore. That, just now, was Representative Alexandria
Ocasio-Cortez. She was condemned for this video with Fox News,
for example, saying that she should apologize to every Jew for
comparing immigration detention centers in the US with
concentration camps. Here’s more of what she had to say.
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ If that doesn’t bother you, I don’t—I
have—like, we can have—Okay. Whatever. I want to talk to the
people that are concerned enough with humanity to say that we
should not, that “never again” means something. And that, the
fact that concentration camps are now an institutionalized
practice in the “home of the free” is extraordinarily
disturbing.
GREG WILPERT Many organizations and individuals also rose to
defend what she said, arguing that without making comparisons,
one cannot learn from history, and one is doomed to repeat it.
Jewish Voice for Peace, a US-based progressive Jewish
organization with tens of thousands of members, published a
short statement reminding people that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
was sharing an article from the men’s magazine Esquire, which
quoted journalist and concentration camp expert Andrea Pitzer
who said, “There have been concentration camps in France, South
Africa, Cuba, the Soviet Union, and— with Japanese internment—
the United States. In fact, we are operating such a system right
now in response to a very real spike in arrivals at our southern
border.” Various right-wing and pro-Trump organizations found it
easier to lash out at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez than at Esquire
Magazine, but this entire debate has drawn attention away from
the actual story— the conditions under which refugees who arrive
at the US border are kept. So to discuss this, we are joined by
Aviva Chomsky. She is a Professor of History and Coordinator of
Latin American Studies at Salem State University, and author of
many books, the latest of which is Undocumented: How Immigration
Became Illegal. Thanks for joining us again, Aviva.
AVIVA CHOMSKY Oh. It’s a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having
me on.
GREG WILPERT So let’s start with the obvious question. Do you
agree that the conditions in which families are kept at near the
southern border, could and should be called “concentration
camps?”
AVIVA CHOMSKY Okay. So. I can answer that question really—I can
give an answer on both sides of the question. On one hand, using
that kind of terminology in the United States today is
inflammatory because we have been taught falsely that
“concentration camp” is a word that applies solely to the Nazi
regime and to the death camps that were part of the system of
the Holocaust, of the attempted extermination of the Jewish and
other unwanted populations of Germany and the territories
conquered by Germany during World War II. But on the other hand,
we can also say that this is a very strategic and propagandistic
use of the term “concentration camps because the term
concentration camps has broader meaning than that. That is, the
Nazi death camps are one historical example of concentration
camps, but concentration camps have existed in many different
places.
Basically, what a concentration camp is, is a place where a
governing power concentrates a civilian population that has not
been accused of or committed any crime, but rather imprisoning
people, concentrating people not because they have been
imprisoned for and judged and charged for committing a crime,
but rather simply because of who they are, removing them from
where they want to be and forcing them to live in some kind of a
prison camp where the reason that they have been imprisoned is
because of who they are. Now, this has happened over and over
again in world history and in US history— the Nazi death camps
being only one historical example.
Some of the examples we might even learn about if we’re studying
US history at a mainstream high school classroom; for example,
during the Spanish-American War, or the Cuban War for
Independence, when the Spanish were trying to reconcentrate the
Cuban population, they took the Cuban population out of the
areas where they lived and imprisoned them in these huge
concentration camps, prison camps. And some of the US propaganda
trying to justify the US entry into the Cuban War of
Independence, which we then came to call the Spanish-American
War, was because of the Spanish policy of removing civilian
populations and concentrating them in prison camps. So the
United States, in that case, denounced the policy.
We did the same thing in the United States with the Japanese
American population during World War II. And at that time, US
government officials, the Supreme Court, openly called the
Japanese internment camps concentration camps because civilians
were being removed from their homes and concentrated in prison
camps— not because they were being imprisoned for a crime, but
simply because of who they were. So civilian populations being
concentrated, imprisoned, in prison camps. They were not
prisoners of war. They were simply imprisoned in these camps
because of who they are. So the same thing is happening with
immigrants who are being detained at the border. They are being
detained because of who they are. And they are being
concentrated in these camps where they are not allowed to leave,
where they have not been accused of a crime. They are civilians.
Many of them are women and children. They’re not prisoners of
war because we’re not at war. They’re not prisoners because they
are not being processed by the judicial system or have not been
processed by any judicial system. They are simply being
concentrated in these camps and in that respect, that very much,
these are concentration camps.
GREG WILPERT Now, as someone who has studied the US immigration
system, what do you think is the most worrisome or perhaps
illegal aspect of keeping refugees under such conditions in
these detention centers or in concentration camps? And what do
you think needs to happen to change the system and to address
the concerns that you might have?
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the United States has always made claims about “liberty and
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always been exceptions. So when we use the word “all” in our
legal system, in our Constitution, and our Declaration of
Independence, we don’t really mean all because we always exclude
certain groups of people. These people have not always been
immigrants. In fact, during much of US history, immigrants have
been the privileged classes in the United States because the
exclusion was defined by race, not by immigration status. Now in
the late 20th century, when many of the immigrants are
racially-defined as different, they are racialized, immigration
and race have been, sort of—The racial issues and the
immigration issues are overlaid over each other in ways that are
different now in the 21st century than they were say, two
hundred years ago.
But the fact that certain people are racially-excluded has been
a fact during every single moment of this country’s history
since 1608. So, what’s wrong with that? Well we all know what’s
wrong with that. Discrimination is wrong. Exclusion is wrong.
Unequal treatment under the law is wrong. But that’s exactly
what our immigration system does. Another piece of this puzzle
that we need to understand is that most of the refugees who are
being incarcerated in these concentration camps today are people
who are fleeing places like Central America, especially the
northern triangle of Central America— the countries of
Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras, where the United States
has been deeply, deeply involved for over a hundred years. To
the extent that we can fairly call them separate countries—That
is, their politics has been so influenced by the United States—
military intervention, economic intervention, political
intervention.
To say, well oh, those are just countries over there that have
nothing to do with us and these people don’t belong here. Well,
that denies the entire history. The United States would not be
the United States without its interventions in Central America,
the US companies that have been involved and continue to be
involved in Central America, the minerals that we have extracted
from Central America, the agricultural products that we have
extracted from Central America, the maquiladoras, the clothes
that we wear that are produced in Central America, the US
companies that are profiting off of this exploitation of Central
America. The United States would not be the United States if it
were not for this long-term relationship with Central America.
And every single person in the United States experiences this
relationship on a daily basis in the food that we put in our
mouths and the clothes that we put on our bodies. Central
America is part of us.
And the amount of military aid, military interventions that the
United States has poured into Central America—-So, the fact that
people are fleeing Central America to the United States—That is,
it’s really a false approach if we say, oh well, you know.
That’s just other countries somewhere far away where bad things
are happening and it’s not our responsibility to take care of
these people. We have a common, integrated history and
discriminating against people because they are Central American,
is part of our system of exploitation of Central America that
has been going on for over a hundred years, and continues today.
GREG WILPERT Now, just turning to something very recent as well,
is that Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE, just confirmed
that it will begin an operation for deporting undocumented
immigrants this weekend. On a Monday, President Trump had
already announced the operation when he tweeted, “Next week, ICE
will begin the process of removing millions of illegal aliens
who have illicitly found their way to the United States.” Now,
ICE clarified that this weekend’s operation is actually
targeting about 2,000 individuals who received warrants
basically. So what do you think would be the effect of this move
for the undocumented immigrants in the US, this decision that is
to launch this kind of process of raiding their homes?
AVIVA CHOMSKY Like much of Trump’s policies, part of this is
simply political theater. That is, we’re moving into the
campaign season and he is trying to show himself as, I’m taking
strong action on immigration. All of the threats against Mexico
and then the much-flaunted signing of a deal with Mexico, which
it turned out wasn’t a new deal at all, but were things that
have been agreed upon by the US and Mexico long before. These
high-profile raids, this obviously isn’t the first time that
these kinds of high-profile raids have happened. They’re talking
about people who already have open deportation orders, which
means that they can be deported quickly. They don’t have to go
through a court process. Most of the 10 or 11 million
undocumented people in the United States don’t fall into that
category. They’re targeting specific individuals. And it’s
something that’s been going on. So part of it is the political
theater. That is, how Trump is trying to play to his base and
look good to an audience that wants to see action on targeting
undocumented immigrants. Under the Bush administration, we saw
the same kinds of things with some of the factory raids that
were completely purposeless except for political theater.
But obviously, human lives are at stake in this political
theater. That is, the winners— or they hope to be the winners—
are our US politicians and the losers are people whose lives are
destroyed so that politicians can, they think, make themselves
look better to certain sectors of the population that are
whipped up into an anti-immigrant sentiment. Immigration is
caused by structural factors. If we want to change
immigration—That is, is immigration a problem? I always say
immigration is a problem not for the United States where
immigrants contribute to the economy in innumerable ways, and
the country’s economy would collapse if we got rid of
immigrants. Immigration is a problem for immigrants. Immigration
means that people are being pushed out of their homes, that
countries are being destroyed, and people are fleeing, and
that’s what the problem is. If we were to really look at the
causes of the problem and try to solve it, we would actually be
making people’s lives better and making immigration a choice
rather than a necessity for many of the immigrants who would
much rather stay home if they really had that option.
GREG WILPERT Okay. Unfortunately, I’m going to leave it there
for now. I’m speaking to Aviva Chomsky, Professor of History at
Salem State University. Thanks again, Aviva, for having joined
us today.
AVIVA CHOMSKY Thanks for having me on. It’s a pleasure.
GREG WILPERT And thank you for joining The Real News Network.
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