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Re: 911 > September 11 2001 > U.S. Fascist COUP?
By: AGelbert Date: July 9, 2019, 5:35 pm
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[center]9/11 Grand Jury Update: U.S. Attorney's Lips Sealed,
Lawyers' Committee to File Mandamus [/center]
AE911Truth July 6, 2019
On this week's episode of 9/11 Free Fall, host Andy Steele is
joined by Mick Harrison and David Meiswinkle of the Lawyers'
Committee for 9/11 Inquiry to discuss the latest on the federal
grand jury proceeding in Manhattan.
The group announced earlier this week that they plan to file a
Mandamus petition in federal court prior to the upcoming 9/11
anniversary since the U.S. Attorney's Office declined last month
to disclose the status of the grand jury proceeding. The goal of
this legal action is to confirm whether the U.S. Attorney
presented the group's 2018 petition reporting unprosecuted
federal crimes at the World Trade Center to a special grand
jury, as mandated by federal statute.
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New York Area Fire Commissioners Make History, Call for New 9/11
Investigation
By: AGelbert Date: July 27, 2019, 1:57 pm
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July 27, 2019
By Ted Walter
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From left to right: Commissioner Philip F. Malloy, Jr.;
Commissioner Dennis G. Lyons; District Secretary Kerry Santina;
Commissioner Joseph M. Torregrossa; Attorney Kenneth Gray;
Commissioner Christopher L. Gioia; Commissioner Les Saltzman
They started off by saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Ten minutes
later, they were reading the text of a resolution claiming the
existence of “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted
explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade
Center buildings.”
And so it was, on July 24, 2019 — nearly 18 years after the
horrific attacks that traumatized a nation and changed the world
forever — the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District became
the first legislative body in the country to officially support
a new investigation into the events of 9/11.
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[quote][center]The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District 9/11
Resolution[/center]
Whereas, the attacks of September 11, 2001, are inextricably and
forever tied to the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department;
Whereas, on September 11, 2001, while operating at the World
Trade Center in New York City, firefighter Thomas J. Hetzel,
badge #290 of Hook and Ladder Company #1, Franklin Square and
Munson Fire Department of New York, was killed in performance of
his duties, along with 2,976 other emergency responders and
civilians;
Whereas, members of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire
Department were called upon to assist in the subsequent rescue
and recovery operations and cleanup of the World Trade Center
site, afflicting many of them with life-threatening illnesses as
a result of breathing the deadly toxins present at the site;
Whereas, the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square
and Munson Fire District recognizes the significant and
compelling nature of the petition before the United States
Attorney for the Southern District of New York reporting
un-prosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center on
September 11, 2001, and calling upon the United States Attorney
to present that petition to a Special Grand Jury pursuant to the
United States Constitution and 18 U.S.C. SS 3332(A);
Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition
demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or
incendiaries — not just airplanes and the ensuing fires — caused
the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings,
killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;
Whereas, the victims of 9/11, their families, the people of New
York City, and our nation deserve that every crime related to
the attacks of September 11, 2001, be investigated to the
fullest and that every person who was responsible face justice;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Fire
Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District
fully supports a comprehensive federal grand jury investigation
and prosecution of every crime related to the attacks of
September 11, 2001, as well as any and all efforts by other
government entities to investigate and uncover the full truth
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“We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen
brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire
fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an
unstoppable force.” — Commissioner Christopher Gioia[/quote]
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Re: 911 > September 11 2001 > U.S. Fascist COUP?
By: AGelbert Date: August 2, 2019, 4:06 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: The comments are EXCELLENT!. As usual, the
Pentagon Trolls tried to poo poo the story but the FACT is that
NY Fire Departments have a lot more street cred than our
bullshitting gooberment does. The ZH crowd carved up the Trolls
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ly
despise wars and war funding. 👍
[center]NY Fire Commissioners Demand New 9/11 Probe, Citing
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Yep. The Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth have been
consistent on the side of truth for the last 15 years or
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Re: 911 > September 11 2001 > U.S. Fascist COUP?
By: AGelbert Date: August 4, 2019, 8:55 pm
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[center]Seeking Justice for 9/11 Heroes: An Interview with New
York Area Fire Commissioner Christopher Gioia[/center]
On this week's episode of 9/11 Free Fall, host Andy Steele is
joined by Franklin Square Fire Commissioner Christopher Gioia to
discuss his fire district’s recent passage of a historic
resolution supporting a new investigation into events of 9/11.
We invite you to listen on SoundCloud or YouTube or to read the
interview below.
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Andrew Steele: On July 24, 2019, the Franklin Square and Munson
Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department that
serves a hamlet of 30,000 residents, just outside of Queens, New
York, made history by unanimously passing a resolution that
supports a new investigation into the events of September 11,
2001, becoming the first legislative body in the country to do
so.
Today, we're joined by the man who introduced that resolution,
Christopher Gioia. He's a former firefighter and chief of the
Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department, and now a
commissioner that oversees that department. Mr. Gioia, welcome
to the show.
Christopher Gioia: Thank you very much, Mr. Steele.
Steele: Before we get into the big news that everybody is
talking about in the movement, and all throughout alternative
media, we want to get to know you a little bit more, so please
tell us about yourself and your career.
Gioia: Well, let's see. I am presently in the construction
industry. Franklin Square Fire Department is a volunteer fire
department. We're comprised of people from all walks and all
trades. I've been in Franklin Square, I guess, for most of my
life. I grew up maybe a block away from the firehouse, so when I
was growing up, I used to sit on the curb and watch the
firetrucks go by. I always wanted to be a fireman.
In the meantime, I completed high school, and I had joined the
Marine Corps. When I had gotten out of the Marine Corps, I came
back to town, and I wanted to continue my service, because the
fire department is a paramilitary organization, so I went to the
fire department, and I joined the local fire department. I've
been with the Franklin Square/Munson Fire Department now for 32
years. I rose through the ranks, lieutenant and captain. I went
through the chief's office. We have three chiefs, second
assistant, first assistant, and then you become chief of
department. Those are two-year terms.
Then some years went by. We also have the fire district, which
is comprised of five fire commissioners, who are responsible for
the buildings and the grounds, the maintenance of the equipment,
uniforms, and such. Pretty much, it's administrative, and you
pay the bills, but it is an elected position, and you have to
submit a petition and run for office, and there are other people
out there that you have to run against, so you actually have to
mount a campaign. Then whatever monies, because it's public
money, everything has to be done according to state law.
Everything has to be voted on, and there's policies and
procedures, and everything has to be on the up and up and above
board.
We are audited by the state. We have our own internal auditors.
Every penny is accounted for, and we do run a tight ship over
here. I've been a commissioner now for about, I guess, three
years. They're five-year terms, so I'm probably about halfway
through. You lose track of time. When you get older, things have
a tendency to blur a little bit.
Steele: Is it just one term that you have or are allowed, or are
you allowed to run again, when the five years are up?
Gioia: You can run again for another five-year term. You could
actually stay in office. The other four commissioners have been
in office 10, 15, maybe 20 years, so I'm pretty much the new kid
on the block. The other members... We have another ex-chief,
who's sitting on the board, as well. He was chief of the
department back in the late '80s or the early '90s. That would
actually be Commissioner Malloy. Then you have Commissioner
Saltzman, who is a member of Engine Company Number Three. You
have Commissioner Lyons, who is a member of Engine Company
Number Two. Commissioner Joseph Torregrossa, he's the chairman,
and he's also a member of Engine Company Number Two.
You can run again. Five-year terms is a long time, but if you're
in there, and you like what you're doing, it's pretty procedural
after... For me, personally, after being chief and being
commissioner, coming into the district, it's actually a less
hectic pace. When you're chief, you respond to every call, and
you're out there on the front lines. Pretty much, the
commissioners are the ones in the background, just paying all
the bills. It's a lot less hectic. It's more relaxed. When you
get a little older, you want to be a little bit more relaxed.
Steele: I understand that myself, as I'm getting older. Believe
me. Now, please tell us about your 9/11 story. Where were you on
the day of September 11th, and how did you first hear the news?
Gioia: On 9/11, I was working... As I said, I do construction
for a living. I'm a construction surveyor. I work for a large
construction company. I was working on new construction of a
small power plant on the river, the East River in Brooklyn, just
north of the Williamsburg Bridge. I was working with a
gentleman, who works in Upstate New York. We were working. We're
less than two miles from the Trade Center, and you have a
spectacular view of Manhattan from the Brooklyn side of the
river.
We heard this explosion, me and my partner, and he remarked
something like, “Is somebody blasting around here?” Because he
knew what the sound was. It didn't register, so we looked
around, and somebody said, “Hey, look! The Trade Center, the
Twin Towers, is on fire.” We were looking at it, and we're
like... We pretty much knew right away. We're like, okay, a
plane hit it or a helicopter hit it. It was up high, and there
was enough smoke and fire that we could see.
Then somebody ran out of one of the trailers and said that a
plane had hit the North Tower. It was a spectacularly beautiful
day. It was just this beautiful blue sky. There wasn't a cloud
in the sky, and it was this perfect day. I'm thinking to myself,
I'm like, this guy, whoever was flying the plane, how could you
hit the building? It's just absolutely perfect flying weather.
I have survey equipment, which is pretty much like a telescope,
so we focused the instruments on the North Tower, and I could
see the imprint of the plane. I could actually see everything.
Just looking at it, it was registering that we all thought it
was maybe a small propeller plane, like a Piper Cub or something
like that, but just from looking at the damage, it was like you
knew that it was something larger.
In the meantime, then, the person... People were running around,
scurrying, and they didn't know what was going on, and then all
of a sudden, we were watching. Then from our vantage point, we
couldn't see the plane coming from the other side, because the
second plane that hit the South Tower came from the Statue of
Liberty side, which is the New Jersey side, and the building
exploded, and it blew out on the side, and then all hell broke
loose. We were like, we're under attack, you know?
People just wanted to leave the job. Me and my partner, we were
transfixed on what we were seeing, because we had the
instruments set up, and people wanted to see what was going on.
We actually could see people waving for help. I could see people
waving their clothes from the windows. I actually saw the lady
who was perched at the bottom of the impact hole in the North
Tower. I believe she was identified, and she ultimately wound up
being killed, but I saw her.
Then it got even worse, because then you saw people jumping out
of the building, and then that was it. I couldn't watch it
anymore, and I had to get home to my wife and my kids. My son
was just about a year old. I told my boss. I said, “Listen, I'm
out of here,” so I jumped in my truck, and we're about... From
Brooklyn to my house is probably about 20 miles, and it's about
maybe five or six miles to get to the Brooklyn Queens
Expressway.
When I had driven about five miles to get on the expressway,
when I got up to the expressway, I looked in the rear view
mirror, and the whole sky of Manhattan down by the Trade Centers
was just blacked out by this cloud. I guess the North Tower had
collapsed, but I didn't know it yet. People had just stopped on
the highway, and everybody was just staring. I turned on the
radio, and then all kinds of reports were coming in. I just, I
flew home, and I made it home in record time. It must've taken
me 15-20 minutes, because I was literally doing 90 miles an hour
down the highway to get home.
I got home, and I threw open the door. My wife looked at me, and
she goes, the South Tower just collapsed. I couldn't understand.
I said to her, I go, “What do you mean the South Tower just
collapsed?” I go, “What happened to the North Tower?” She said,
“That one collapsed 15 minutes ago.” I just sat back down on the
couch with my wife, and we just sat there, and we watched TV. We
were just in shock, because it was just too much to take in. We
just sat there, and we just watched, watched the TV, and we just
watched everything, as it unfolded.
Steele: It was horrible enough to watch it on television from
Florida, where I was at the time. I can't imagine standing there
watching what you just described through your equipment that
day, and seeing that. I know for New Yorkers, it had, of course,
a more profound impact, because they actually lived it, people
in New York and in the surrounding areas. It happened right in
front of them. I understand that you had friends that died on
September 11th. Do you want to tell us about them, and the lives
that they lived?
Gioia: Yes, that's correct, Andrew. I lost three of my friends,
who were city firemen. One of them, Thomas Hetzel, was in the
department here in Franklin Square. The other two lived in
Franklin Square, and I was friends with them. I grew up with
firefighter, Robert Evans. We used to pretty much hang out,
maybe down at the park. He was a friend from school. Then the
other firefighter, Michael Kiefer, he was one of these kids who
used to come around the firehouse on his bicycle, and he was
a... We'd call him a buff. He would have his scanner, and he
would follow the trucks around. He grew up, and he joined the
fire department.
He went into the towers. He responded. They never found him. I
think they found little bits and pieces of Bobby. I was speaking
to his sister the other day. They actually recovered some more
parts or bone fragments. Tom they found in a stairwell. He was
on his way out of the building. I was really good friends with
Tom. I pretty much grew up with him. I went to his wedding. We
did things together, and he was a good friend. They were all
good people.
Steele: September 11th happened. You obviously have a personal
connection to the event through your friends that died, through
the fire department. How did you come to be exposed to the World
Trade Center evidence that AE911Truth puts forth?
Gioia: After 9/11, the town really pulled together, the town of
Franklin Square. We opened up the firehouse, and people were
asked to drop off donations, whatever they could donate in the
way of maybe food, water, clothing, whatever supplies that they
could think of, that we packed onto a truck, and we actually
brought down to Ground Zero to give out to the rescue workers.
One of my friends in the fire department is a retired airline
pilot. He was an FAA instructor. He flew every kind of aircraft,
and he was totally familiar with jet planes and everything like
that.
One of the stories that struck us odd, right from the get-go,
and he even said this, was that they mentioned that the
hijackers had turned off the system on the plane, and that
stopped the air traffic controllers from seeing them. He was
like, “Well, if they turn that off, that doesn't erase the radar
signature.” That always struck me as odd, and even struck him as
odd, because they were saying, well, they couldn't track the
plane, but that's not true.
That always stuck in my brain, and then years went by, and
didn't think anything of it. Pretty much, we were trying to get
our lives back on track, I'd say, for the first year, went to
numerous wakes and funerals for a solid year, of just firemen
and cops and civilians who were killed. It wasn't a pleasant
time. It was actually a time that I really don't care to
remember too much. I guess I've repressed the memories, and it's
kind of hazy, but I do remember enough.
Then we gradually built our lives back, and life pretty much got
back to normal, even though you have the wars going on, and you
have... All kinds of things were going on, but people accepted
it, and we had to move on. We had to carry on, and we did.
Being in the construction industry, I speak with a lot of
people. I was talking with some people, and we were talking
about building construction, and we got onto talking about how
the towers had collapsed. Then one of the guys that I was
talking with said, “You know about Building 7?”
I was like, “Well, what about Building 7? What is it? What was
it?” I really didn't know too much about it. I knew that a third
building had come down, but at the time you're watching this, I
guess I really started watching the news a couple of days after
9/11, when Franklin Square was called into the city, and we had
to do standby duty at a city firehouse. We were all glued around
the TV, and they kept showing Building 7 from uptown, like
around the Empire State Building, so you could see the building
come down. At the time, nobody really cared about Building 7,
because everybody was more fixated on the Twin Towers.
Then this person that I was speaking with, another one of the
construction workers, he's like, “Yeah,” he goes, “that building
came down. It wasn't hit by a plane, and I have some real good
photos/videos of it close up.” He started showing me that, and
then on one of the videos, you could actually see the windows
blowing out, and the windows blew out on multiple floors, all at
the same time, and then the building buckled on both ends, and
then the roof... The roof had initially caved in, but then the
whole building came down symmetrically.
I just stood there, and I looked at him. I was like, “You've got
to be kidding me. Where did you get that?”
He's like, “It's on the web. You could go online, and you could
bring up pictures of all of this.”
That's what spurred my curiosity, so I went online, and I
started researching pictures of the collapses. I'm looking at
the collapses, and then I'm hitting different websites. There's
a lot of crap out there, and there's a lot of people who are off
the wall with all kinds of different theories about everything,
but I wasn't interested in that. I was more interested in the
dynamics of the collapse.
I looked at Building 7 in the closeup, and then somebody had
stitched together, I guess, some pictures of a controlled
demolition, and they put it side by side, next to Building 7.
Then I was looking at... I was going through the interviews, and
then I was looking at the news reports. There was a report from
Dan Rather, and he said he was watching Building 7, and how it
reminded him of a controlled demolition.
I'm looking at that building, and now, from a construction point
of view, and then from being a fireman, and I'm like, “There's
something literally wrong with this picture, because fire
doesn't act like that.” If the building wasn't hit by a plane...
They said there were raging fires, and there were no raging
fires in Building 7. There was fires on a few floors, and by the
time of the collapse, they had pretty much gone out. There was
damage when the North Tower collapse. Okay, I get that, but the
building would've collapsed on the damaged side, and it would've
been an asymmetrical collapse. It wouldn't have been a
symmetrical collapse.
Even if you look at the video of the building coming down, it
doesn't collapse from the top. You see the roof coming down, but
it starts to collapse from the bottom. All the core columns, I
know from construction, all the core columns had to have been
severed at the same time, for a uniform, symmetrical collapse
like that. There's no two ways about it, never going to have a
steel frame building collapse in that fashion without something
else going on.
That spurred me on even further, and I started looking into more
videos. Then I was interested in what eyewitnesses had to say,
because I don't... I'm not going on hearsay, and I'm not going
on theories. I want to know what people saw. There's a lot of
testimony there from the firemen and police, first responders,
as to what they saw and they heard. I believe about 200 or so
mention explosions. They saw red flashes. There was a lot of
popping, explosions, and everybody had pretty much... There was
a common theme. They all said they thought it was... It almost
looked like a controlled demolition. The people actually said
that.
Then I'm like, all right, but you know, I'm going through. I'm
surfing the web, and then I hit Architects and Engineers
website, and this website had it all together, and it presented
it in a logical fashion, yeah, all right, this is what happened.
Then they back it up with professional people, and they...
backed up by eyewitness testimony and how certain things are
just not possible. You can't suspend the laws of physics.
Gravity only operates downward. It doesn't operate from outward.
The laws of science most certainly do apply. The laws of the
building, the way the buildings were constructed, that applies.
If you put theories to the test, which they have, then you prove
that it's not really a theory anymore, or you eliminate things
that just are impossible to happen.
That coalesced in my mind. Then after, I would say, two or three
years of doing research and digging, digging through testimony,
and looking at pictures, and hitting various websites, it pretty
much was obvious that the official government narrative is not
really what happened that day. It's absolutely far from the
truth, and it's not a good thing.
What was done, it was something... It was terrible, and it was
perpetrated on the American public by, I'm just going to say, a
rogue group, and there was an agenda. There definitely was an
agenda. There was a lot going on, and a lot of good people got
killed. That's something that this country cannot tolerate,
because it just goes against everything that we stand for.
People were murdered for that, and that's something that... You
know what? That really disturbs me, and I know it disturbs a lot
of other people, too.
Steele: Absolutely, and I think you really lay out the evidence
very well, from your own research and perspective. When you woke
up to this, through your slow process of deep research, like so
many of us, did you speak to other people about this, other
firefighters? What were their reactions? I'd also like to know,
what did this do to your world view?
Gioia: When I first started talking to people about it, they
just kind of laughed it off, and they were like, you're crazy,
and you don't know what you're talking about. They just kind of
blew it off. Then I would say, “Well, wait a minute. Look at
these pictures with me.” You could see, if you look at the Twin
Towers exploding, and really look below the collapse, at the
beginning, you could actually see floors blowing out in a
pattern coming down. Then the debris from the collapsing floors
covers it up, but you can actually see the floors blowing out.
There's some really good pictures of that.
I would try to tell people that maybe it's not all as it seems,
and that there's definitely something else here that we need to
look at. Initially, people didn't want to know, and it is
definitely a sensitive issues, because we're pretty much right
on top of it, but I'm persistent. I brought it up to a few
people, and I showed them a few things to spur their curiosity.
I don't think it changed my world view. I think that, if
anything, I always knew that the other world was a crazy place.
Steele: What first gave you the idea to pursue this resolution,
and how difficult was the decision for you to go ahead and
broach this subject with your colleagues?
Gioia: I have been putting it out there for a couple years now
in the fire department. Being commissioner, I do go to meetings
with other fire districts, and being an ex-chief, I do go to
meetings for chiefs, The Chiefs Association in Nassau County. I
brought it up at a fire district meeting. I actually read the
petition. I saw the petition. I agreed with the need to have
another investigation, because a lot of evidence has surfaced in
the past 18 years that needs to look at. A lot of it has been
uncovered by Architects and Engineers. It's been uncovered by a
lot of people, who have taken the time to analyze, and to render
a professional opinion on what the evidence shows. That, to me,
was very important.
I started telling people about the petition. I said that the
U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York actually has
this petition to get a grand jury investigation going. I said,
“That's where we need to go.” I said, “My feelings on the matter
don't mean anything.” I said, “We're not engaging in conspiracy
theories at all. Let's look at the evidence, and let the
evidence guide us on the direction that we need to go.” That is
so important. I think that the American people, I think that any
rational person, would agree with that, that you discount
everything else. You can't go on hearsay. Let's take a hard look
at what's there, and let that just guide us. We owe it to the
people who were murdered on 9/11 and the countless thousands, or
tens of thousands of people who were killed in these wars
overseas, in the name of fighting terrorism or whatever you want
to call it, and get to the heart of the matter, and get to the
truth.
If the evidence takes us in that direction, and we do find out
that there are other people responsible, and they're in the
government, or if they're in the Pentagon, or they're in the
business sector, then these people need to be held to account.
They need to be brought to justice. We need to get this country
back on track.
Steele: Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. So much was
affected by September 11th. We're still living the ramifications
of it to this day. That's why so many people are dedicated, and
I can tell, probably one of the reasons why you're so dedicated,
too. I'm curious about the interactions in discussing this
resolution. What was some of the feedback and discussion that
took place before you guys actually met and passed this thing?
Gioia: I approached the other commissioners, and I said,
“Listen, I want to sponsor a resolution in support of the
petition at the U.S. Attorney's Office.” The other commissioners
were receptive. They've been in the fire service for many years.
We've been intimately involved with everything with 9/11, and
they know where I'm coming from. They know that I don't get
myself involved in anything unless I believe in it 100%. They
looked. They listened to what I had to say. I said, “I'd like to
do, introduce, a resolution.” I said, “I looked it up, and a
resolution, a legal resolution is... It's not really binding.
It's pretty much mostly symbolic, but it is a statement from a
legislative group, and where elected official is a statement
that we recognize certain things, and that we support the
investigation. Coming from a fire department, that would lend
some weight to the movement to get the U.S. Attorney's Office to
present the petition,” which I understand they're not talking,
and they've had it for about year.
That was the impetus on getting the resolution going. That was
just to add some weight, and to add some considerable support to
the movement that's out there. I think we accomplished that.
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Steele: You absolutely did. Now, I understand from the article,
that AE911Truth has posted and sent out to all of our supporters
that you had family members of the fallen at this meeting. Can
you talk about that?
Gioia: I invited Tommy Hetzel's parents, his widow, his sister;
and I invited my friend, Bobby Evans... His mom and his sister
were there. We had them sit there up front. The family of
Michael Kiefer, they really took the hit, because Mike was their
shining star, and I don't think they ever fully recovered from
losing Michael. He had a couple of sisters and whatnot. I think
he was the only son. His was a real big loss over there. I know
that the Evans family definitely took the hit. I know his mom.
His mom was devastated.
I just couldn't say enough about the Hetzel family, because
they've been through so much. There's been other tragedy in the
family. His mom and his dad and his brother and his sister, his
remaining siblings, have been so strong throughout everything,
and I just can't imagine the strength that it takes for them to
continue, but they do. Yes, they were there for the vote on the
resolution.
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Steele: Obviously, you're aware of how significant this was.
Again, it's the first legislative body in the country to put
forth such a resolution. Were other commissioners in this body
aware of the historic significance of this resolution?
Gioia: I don't think they realized the full impact of what we
were doing until after it was done. They knew it was
significant, though, because I told them. Everything is
transparent with the fire district. One commissioner doesn't do
anything without letting the other commissioners... We don't
operate independently, and we do have a district council, which
oversees everything that we do, and they guide us, and they give
legal advice on everything.
The resolution was drafted. The commissioners, we all, had a
chance to look at it. It was run by counsel to make sure that
the T's were crossed, and the I's were dotted, and that it was
presented in a legal fashion. Whether or not they knew the full
impact of what the resolution was going to do, I don't think any
of us did. I think we had a narrow focus, and that was just to
support the resolution, and then to have this thing literally...
It got big real fast, and I think that that took everybody,
including myself, by surprise, but no. They knew it was going to
have an impact, but I don't think we all realized the tremendous
impact that it was going to have.
Steele: Us veterans in the movement are fully aware that, many
times, those who don't want discussion of the evidence, who
don't want to talk about this issue, that want to stifle any
questions about September 11th, will oftentimes try to invoke
the firefighters and the emotional impact of that day on them,
to try to shut down the discussion. What is your reaction to
those kinds of methods to try to stifle discussion of the
evidence?
Gioia: I think it's a diversionary tactic. I think that the
psychological implications of 9/11 were definitely discussed and
implemented, that 9/11 was a very sophisticated attack and plot,
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warfare, so if you constantly shift the focus from the facts to
the dramatic effect, then you've been successful, because now
you've taken the focus off where you need it to be.
I'd just tell people, listen, I've always said that 9/11 needs
to be viewed from a clinical standpoint, where you just
disassociate yourself from all emotion, and you just look at the
facts, and that's it. You don't get involved in the drama. You
don't get involved in the emotion, the feelings, any of that.
That's a non sequitur. That just has no bearing on what we're
trying to do.
I tell people bluntly, listen. You know what? This is a crime.
This was a mass murder. That's what this was, okay? That's all
it was. It was a mass murder; 3,000 people were murdered in cold
blood, on TV, or in front of your eyes, okay? Buildings
collapsed, and planes crashed into this, and all kinds of things
happened. We need to look at it, and we have to put literally
everything under the microscope. Everything has to be looked at
and analyzed. It has to be analyzed from a scientific point of
view, and there's no emotion to it. It's this, and it's that.
If it's this, then we need to go there. If it's that, we need to
go there. If you look at the evidence, and you look at the
testimony, any reasonable person would say there's plenty of
reasonable doubt there, and you know what? You can't violate the
laws of physics, and you can't say that steel frame buildings
just collapse for no reason at free fall. You just can't make
these statements the way the government's throwing out these
statements. They didn't even want to entertain some of the
evidence. What they didn't want to look at, they didn't look at.
To give you an example, in the case of Building 7, they asked
the gentleman, who was giving the report... Actually, he came
out and said, he goes, “Oh, there was no evidence of explosives
found.” Then they asked him, “Well, did you look for
explosives?” He said, “No, we didn't look for explosives.” How
disingenuous is that, that we didn't find explosives because we
didn't look for explosives? There's a lot of doublespeak going
on.
Steele: Now, you've passed this resolution. You're getting a lot
of attention on the Internet from alternative media, and I think
the corporate media is probably aware of this, whether or not
they choose to report it. We all know the situation with them,
but do you think that other firemen, who may hear about this,
particularly in New York City, in the surrounding areas, do you
think they're ready to hear out this issue with an open mind, or
do you think the emotion of that day still carries 18 years
later?
Gioia: I think, Andrew, it cuts both ways. I think you have
firemen out there, who actually are embracing this, because they
know that something's not right. I know that for a fact, because
from the meetings that I've attended with the chiefs, the
ex-chiefs, fire district commissioners from the other towns
around Nassau County, that there are people out there, who do
not accept the official narrative. They know that something is
wrong, and they're absolutely willing to look at the evidence,
and they do want to see some movement. They want to see another
investigation, because they know that things just don't add up.
You have some people, who, they're pretty much in denial, and
they don't want to go down that road anymore, because they've
been affected so much that... We've been destroyed up here in
New York. We have. We took the hit. People, they just... You
mention 9/11, and they go right into the shell. They go right
into a defensive posture.
Now that time has elapsed a little bit, you have a younger crowd
that wasn't really as much on top of it, and they are willing to
embrace the evidence, and they're willing to embrace people who
are talking about it, because if you stick to the facts, and
that's all we need to do is just stick to the facts and say,
listen, these are the facts, and this is the evidence, and we
need to look at this, then nobody's going to argue with that.
All right, we need another investigation. Let's talk about
things. Let's talk about this. We're all adults. We all have a
stake in this.
There's no rational person out there that's going to tell me, as
a firemen, “You know what? Oh, we can't talk about that,”
because I'd be the first one to tell them, “You know what? No.
You know what? I'm going to talk about it. My friends were
murdered. They were murdered right in front of me. You know
what? I want to get to the bottom of it, so what are you telling
me? You going to tell me, no, you don't want an investigation?
What's up with that?”
It's beyond belief that there are people out there that would
not embrace a new investigation, so we could get to the truth,
and we could look at evidence that hasn't been looked at and is
mandated by Congress that they have to show this evidence, and
it's mandated by law that the U.S. Attorney has to present this
to a grand jury. That's the rule of law, and that's what this
country is all about. That's what makes this country what it is.
That's what sets this country apart from other countries in the
world, is that we have respect for law and order. There is the
rule of law, and that has been violated. It's been grossly
violated, and we need to get back to that, because if we do not
get back to the rule of law, then this country, the ideals,
everything that this country has been built on is going to take
the hit.
You know what? I don't think you're going to let it happen. I
know damn sure I'm not going to let it happen.
Steele: Those are powerful words, and I know that there are
other firemen out there, all over America, who have gotten wind
of what happened in the Franklin Square and Munson Fire
District, and are maybe even listening to this interview,
wanting to meet the man who proposed that resolution. They may
be inspired, but they may be holding back for various reasons.
They may want to do the same thing in their fire districts,
maybe other fire commissioners with that authority. What would
you say to them, as they're considering this? What would you say
to them, in terms of why it's so important, and why they should
pursue the same action that your district did?
Gioia: Andrew, I would say this to the other firefighters, to
the police officers, to anybody, any other person out there, any
American, that you know what? We're all Americans here, and we
believe in ideals which make our country great. There comes a
point in everyone's life when you have to make a stand, and
that's a really tough thing to do for people. You make a
decision that, you know what? You're going to stand up for
something.
Now, a lot of people talk tough, and a lot of people, they
just... That's it. They're just talk, and they don't really act,
and back it up with actions, but it's incumbent on especially
firemen. We've taken the extra step. We've gone the extra mile.
We're out there protecting lives and saving property, and we're
on the forefront of all of this.
I would say to anybody who believes in this country that it's
time to make a stand, because 3,000 people were murdered, and
you can't let this go. You're not going to let it go, because if
they're going to murder 3,000 people, what are they going to do
next? I'm not going to have my kids jeopardized. I don't really
like how the country has been guided down this dark path. We
need to get back on track, and it's up to the people in this
country, the good people.
Americans, to me, aren't afraid to stand up for what they
believe in. We've been so beaten down that, you know what?
You're afraid to speak, because, God forbid, they're going to
say, “Oh, you're a hater,” or, “You're a racist,” or, “You're a
truther,” or something like that. You know what? I'm not afraid
to get out there and speak my mind. You know, you speak
intelligently, and you speak armed with the facts, but you know
what? You have to speak. People really need to make a stand on
this one, because if we don't, if we don't, then something else
even worse is going to happen, because it only emboldens things
like this to happen.
I think there's a quote. It says, “For evil to triumph, good
people need not do anything.” That is so true, so it depends on
the person. I would just encourage people out there, listen, if
you feel strongly about this, then do something about it. Don't
sit there. Get up and do something about it, because there's a
lot of people out there that will help you, that'll embrace
this. Like you said, there's a movement out there of people who
just, for whatever reason, they just don't believe what we've
been told.
The more you look at it, you could see the truth. I tell people,
listen. I'm not going to tell you how to think, okay? I'm not
going to tell you one way or the other about what happened on
9/11. You do that yourself. You look at it. You research it. You
come to your own conclusions, all right? Then, maybe a few
months or a year down the road, we could meet up again, and we
could talk about it, and see if your position has changed. We
need to get behind the investigation. People need to get behind
this, and get the investigation going, and let the wheels of
justice do their job.
Steele: Something I always commonly mention, or I have been
doing for the past year or so is we're here 18 years after this
event took place. If the post-9/11 world were a person, it would
be old enough to vote at this point, or I guess it would be this
September, so it's been a long time. Some people say, why do you
keep at this? It was so long ago. Maybe it was a controlled
demolition. Maybe it wasn't, but all those people, or most of
them, are out of office now. Why can't we just move forward? Why
do we have to focus on the negative? I mean, this is an attitude
that exists out there among the rank and file of America. I hear
it often. What's your response to that? What do you have to say
to those sentiments?
Gioia: I hear the same thing, Andrew. I hear it. It's 18 years
later. Why are you bothering? I say to these people, because
these people were our friends. They were our neighbors. They
were sons. They were daughters. They were husbands. They were
wives. They had lives. These were Americans, who went to work.
They just were going about their business, and they died
horrible deaths.
These were my friends, and I'm not going to forget that. I'm not
satisfied with the way they've been treated. Like I said,
reinvestigate. I get choked up. I get emotional. I would get
emotional with people and just say, listen, unless you've lost
somebody, and I always say, listen, if somebody murdered
somebody in your family, and there was evidence that came about
after, that pointed at somebody else, or it took you in a
different direction, wouldn't you want to pursue that? There's
no statute of limitation on murder, and these people were
murdered.
That's why, after 18 years, I'm still looking for justice for my
friends, because I know that there are people out there who need
to be held to account. I'm not going to let go. I'm not going to
let go. If I spend the rest of my life pursuing this, pursuing
justice for my friends, I'm going to do that.
Now, with regards to that, being a fireman, and being a
firefighter... This is for all of the firemen out there. You
know it's a brotherhood, and we've been trained that when you
fight the fire, you go in. You don't go in alone. You go in with
your brother or your sister. You go in together, and if
something happens, you come out together. You don't leave that
person behind, so I would say this.
We're not leaving our brothers behind. We're not leaving these
people behind. These were Americans. These were firefighters,
cops, EMS, and they were just ordinary people who went about
their business that day. We're not leaving them behind. We're
not forgetting about them. They deserve justice, and we're going
to see that justice is done.
Steele: Yes, we are, through efforts like yours, through efforts
like the ones being put forth by AE911Truth, the Lawyers'
Committee for 9/11 Inquiry. Nobody will be left behind,
especially the victims, who we do this work in pursuit of
justice for.
Christopher Gioia, I want to thank you for what you got started
out there in your district and what I think you're getting
started in the rest of America and the wider world. Of course,
thank you so much for coming on 9/11 Free Fall today.
Gioia: All right, thank you very much, Mr. Steele.
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The 🦍 people who REALLY did this want you to think, that
nothing, NOTHING, will be the same ...
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[quote]Cooper made another prediction. “Folks, I can assure you
that 72 hours from now we will be at war. We will be bombing two
or maybe three countries….Because that’s how it works. When
governments are attacked, they lash out. Thousands of people who
had nothing whatsoever to do with what is happening at the World
Trade Center and the Pentagon are going to die.
“Nothing will be the same after today,” Cooper said grimly.
“Get ready for it, folks, because that’s what you’re going to be
hearing in the next weeks and months on radio and television:
Nothing will be the same after today….Because I’ll tell you,
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Cooper was a patriot. The U.S. Government killed him because he
spoke the ugly truth about 9/11 causes and planned consequences.
[quote]In an interview I did recently with Larry Wilkerson, he
called Mueller the “cleanup man” for the Republican Party. Years
post 9/11, Iraq war, I mean, the FBI was accused by Graham under
Mueller’s 😈 administration for directly not properly
investigating the 9/11 situation.[/quote]
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Building 7 Study to be released Sept. 3
By: AGelbert Date: August 20, 2019, 6:31 pm
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[center]Building 7 Study to be released Sept. 3[/center]
In just a couple of weeks, the breakthrough Building 7 Study by
Dr. Leroy Hulsey will be released, proving definitively that
fire did not cause the destruction of World Trade Center
Building 7 on 9/11
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Re: Building 7 Study to be released Sept. 3
By: Surly1 Date: August 20, 2019, 7:44 pm
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[center]Building 7 Study to be released Sept. 3[/center]
In just a couple of weeks, the breakthrough Building 7 Study by
Dr. Leroy Hulsey will be released, proving definitively that
fire did not cause the destruction of World Trade Center
Building 7 on 9/11
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I hope Dr. Hulsey's family lives out of the country.
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Re: 911 > September 11 2001 > U.S. Fascist COUP?
By: AGelbert Date: August 20, 2019, 9:23 pm
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[center]Building 7 Study to be released Sept. 3[/center]
In just a couple of weeks, the breakthrough Building 7 Study by
Dr. Leroy Hulsey will be released, proving definitively that
fire did not cause the destruction of World Trade Center
Building 7 on 9/11
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I hope Dr. Hulsey's family lives out of the country.
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Not a problem. The USA is now full Orwell. It does not matter
how irrefutably logical and empirically correct a study or a
statement or whatever is that is published; TPTB will say black
is white and up is down and all the cognitively dissonanced herd
will go shopping with a smile on their face.
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University Study Finds Fire Did Not Bring Down World Trade Cente
r Building 7 on 9/11
By: AGelbert Date: September 6, 2019, 6:27 pm
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[center]University Study Finds Fire Did Not Bring Down World
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Fire Did Not Cause 3rd Tower’s Collapse on 9/11, New Study Finds
On September 11, 2001, at 5:20 PM, the 47-story World Trade
Center Building 7 collapsed into its footprint, falling more
than 100 feet at the rate of gravity for 2.5 seconds of its
seven-second destruction.
Despite calls for the evidence to be preserved, New York City
officials had the building's debris removed and destroyed in the
ensuing weeks and months, preventing a proper forensic
investigation from ever taking place. Seven years later, federal
investigators concluded that WTC 7 was the first steel-framed
high-rise ever to have collapsed solely as a result of normal
office fires.
Today, we at Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are pleased
to partner with the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) in
releasing the draft report of a four-year computer modeling
study of WTC 7’s collapse conducted by researchers in the
university's Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering.
The UAF WTC 7 report concludes that the collapse of WTC 7 on
9/11 was caused not by fire but rather by the near-simultaneous
failure of every column in the building.
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Agelbert NOTE: IOW, it's the preplanted, and planned MONTHS IN
ADVANCE to be preplanted, BY THE ROGUE EVIL BASTARDS IN US
GOVERNMENT (i.e. [img
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/>🦖 Cheney, 🐉 Rumsfeld, 🦕 Bush, et al),
💥 EXPLOSIVES, STUPID!
[center]LOCK THEM UP FOR MASS MURDER AND TREASON! [img
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📢 Survey: Majority Suspect WTC 7 Was Demolished 🚩
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By: AGelbert Date: September 10, 2019, 1:47 pm
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Sep 9, 2019, 7:20 PM
[center]Survey: Majority Suspect WTC 7 Was Demolished[/center]
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[move][font=courier]Most Americans Who See Collapse of Building
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[center]3-to-1 Majority Who See Building 7’s Collapse Support
New Investigation
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A solid majority of Americans who watch the Sept. 11, 2001,
collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on video don’t buy the
government’s story that fires brought it down, according to a
new survey conducted by YouGov on behalf of Architects &
Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
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Agelbert NOTE: IOW, it's the preplanted, and planned MONTHS IN
ADVANCE to be preplanted, BY THE ROGUE EVIL BASTARDS IN US
GOVERNMENT (i.e. [img
width=50]
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/>🦖 Cheney, 🐉 Rumsfeld, 🦕 Bush, et al),
💥 EXPLOSIVES, STUPID!
If you still do not understand WHY the card carrying PNAC (i.e.
"NEW" Pearl Harbor) EVIL BASTARDS did this murderous false flag
attack, just read this article and it will become crystal clear
to you that it was the only way these FASCISTS could think of to
make the USA the FASCIST PARADISE it is today. The article fails
to connect the 9/11 WTC 7 dot, but it is blatantly OBVIOUS that
ALL the post 9/11 attacks on our freedoms within the USA, from
the "Patriot" Act on through the civil liberties strangling
tyranny checklist, could NEVER have been successfully pushed
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SEPTEMBER 9, 2019 10:18AM ET
[center]We’re Only Beginning to See the Consequences of the
Bush-Era Assault on Civil Liberties[/center]
[center]Like a number of “War on Terror” [img
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ty
was obvious from the jump
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