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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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Date: July 7, 2018, 1:20 pm
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>
> Humane animal treatment is as important to OUR health and
well being as their health and well being due to the fact that
we eat them.
>
> I'll plan to breakdown this report in more detail at another
time but it behooves all of us to read it and know when you are
being bullshitted about whether the meat you buy is from an
animal that was raised in a healthy environment and treated
humanely or not.
> [quote]Humane Farm Animal Care Comprehensive Animal Welfare
Standards Comparison By Program – Chickens, Beef Cattle and Pigs
> August
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HTML http://www.certifiedhumane.org/uploads/pdf/Comparison%20Charts/Comp.Standards.Comparison.Chart.wappendix.8.13.12.pdf
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 2:10 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This article, originally published August 13,
2012, was posted in two parts on this forum on October 12, 2013.
It is food for thought, especially in view of what the 1%
😈 👹 💵 🎩 🍌 was doing to
we-the-people then, that resulted in the mess
🏴‍☠️ we are in now.
[center]
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[center]Female Argiope appensa spider is on the left
👀[/center]
[center]Sexual Dimorphism, PowerStructures and Environmental
Consequences of Human Behaviors[/center]
Published August 13, 2012 | By A. G. Gelbert
[center]
Why the 1% is responsible for more than 80% of humanity’s carbon
footprint and why Homo sapiens is doomed unless the 1% lead the
way in a sustainable life style.[/center]
PART 1
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/geopolitics/power-structures-in-human-society-pros-and-cons-part-1/msg51/#msg51
PART 2
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/geopolitics/power-structures-in-human-society-pros-and-cons-part-1/msg148/#msg148
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 2:28 pm
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>
> [center]Scientists expose another myth[/center]
>
> [quote]Every man for himself
>
> While “women and children first” is a noble call that rings
out on sinking ships in movies, an analysis of real maritime
disasters reveals the opposite is nearly always true. Swedish
researchers looked back at the records of 100 major ship
disasters from the past three centuries involving more than
15,000 passengers, and found that the survival rate for men was
approximately twice that of women. Even the idea that the
captain goes down with his ship was trashed, with 61 percent of
the crew typically surviving, compared to just 37 percent of
male passengers.
>
> The authors of the analysis, published last month (July 10) in
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, are actually
economists, interested in how far people will go to protect
their own interests. The sinking of the Titanic is a rare
example in shipwrecks where there was a clear survival advantage
to women, but it goes against the observation of self-interest
many economists observe in day-to-day activities. In researching
the overall trend, the authors show that the Titanic is a
remarkable exception to the general rule that every man is out
for himself.
>
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[size=10pt]Now you know why one percenters love yachts so much!
;D
More behavior news including why some female spiders sometimes
eat the male mate instead of mating with it. 😈
HTML http://the-scientist.com/2012/08/10/behavior-brief-22/
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 2:36 pm
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--- Quote from: agelbert link ---
>
> [move]This is an excellent summary of the current insanity at
empire central by Mike Stathis.[/move]
>
> [quote][center]Washington’s double-dip scam and war with
Iran[/center]
>
> As the United States continues to suffer from the economic
disaster created by Wall Street, the “experts” are once again
discussing the possibility of a “double-dip” recession. This
play on words is ludicrous to those of us who realize the
recession which began in December of 2007, never ended.
>
>
> The problem with the term “double-dip” recession is that it
has been transformed into a misnomer by the media. The National
Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) came up with the term
“double-dip” recession to describe relative changes in economic
data during a recession. According to the NBER, a double-dip
recession is “A continuous recession that's punctuated by a
period of growth, then followed by a further decline in the
economy.”
>
> But the “period of growth” referred to by the NBER does not
designate the end of a recession. It merely acknowledges a
slight improvement followed by a decline in economic conditions.
Note the most relevant portion of the NBER’s definition is that
a “double-dip” is a “continuous recession.”
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> As most Americans realize, there has been no economic
recovery. Borrowing trillions of dollars in order to finance
banking bailouts, housing subsidies, food stamps, unemployment
benefits, and medical care for impoverished Americans does not
constitute an economic expansion or recovery; at least not for a
nation that claims to be based on “capitalism.”
>
> The objective of this deception is to improve consumer
confidence, as directed by Washington. The NBER realizes the
media and its “experts” have deceived the American people, but
they have kept silent on the matter because they too are members
of the establishment.
>
> With nearly one-half of the entire U.S. population currently
receiving some form of government assistance, no honest person
of sound mind can legitimately claim that the U.S. economy
recovered in June 2009, or any time thereafter. Furthermore,
with such a high level of public assistance, one could argue
that the U.S. economy does not operate based on free market
principles. Of course, there are many other points that would
strengthen this argument.
>
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--- Quote ---
> Americans have been subjected to establishment-based
propaganda similar to the “double-dip” delusion for decades.
Compiling a list of this deception would easily consume several
large books. But I will discuss a few recent examples.
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After listing some examples, he continues with this:
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> During the financial crisis of 2008, the Federal Reserve and
Washington utilized a similar strategy. They claimed that unless
the banking bailout was passed, the U.S. would enter a
depression. But American homeowners and workers were not bailed
out. Instead, their tax dollars were sent to Wall Street.
>
> And of course, the bailout did not prevent a depression.
Ironically, the bailout made the banks designated as “too big to
fail” even bigger. This “too big to fail” mantra is but another
scare tactic orchestrated by the establishment. Common sense
tells us that any bank deemed as “too big to fail” poses a
tremendous risk to the economy and must be broken up.
>
> Today, the same banks responsible for the collapse of the
global economy continue to defraud investors and consumers
because Washington refused to pass real Wall Street reform.
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For those who don't know who MAINLY runs Wall street in letter
and in spirit, read on:
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> The Zionist establishment’s most recent pack of manufactured
lies has been focused on Iran. According to the criminal puppets
in Washington, Iran poses a threat to the U.S. and its “allies”
as a terrorist nation seeking to arm itself with nuclear
weapons.
>
>
> Unfortunately, most Americans are unaware of the facts about
Iran and Israel, just like they are unaware of the real reasons
for U.S. military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan. As informed
citizens of the world realize, Iran is the most peaceful nation
in the Middle East, and has remained so for many centuries.
Israel is the real threat; not only to the Middle East, but to
the rest of the world. No other nation comes remotely close to
the dangers lurking from Israel’s nuclear-armed, trigger-happy
regime.
>
> Despite being considered America’s “strongest ally in the
Middle East,” Israel has engaged in a long list of activities
that could be considered acts of war against the United States.
For instance, Israel has been caught spying on the United States
numerous times, committed multiple acts of terrorism on U.S.
soil, and attacked at least one unarmed U.S. naval vessel,
resulting in dozens of casualties.
>
>
> In every case, there have been no repercussions from
Washington because each of America’s politicians have been
bought off by Zionist Jewish money, most of which was obtained
by illegal means of some form.
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--- Quote ---
> As Zionist-controlled Washington reinvigorates its treasonous
partnership with Israel, their obsession with Iran also serves
to distract attention away from the depression going on in the
U.S.
>
> Although U.S. borders remain open, Zionist-controlled
Washington constantly reminds Americans that they must pony up
trillions of tax dollars to protect borders in the Middle East
and defeat “terrorists” who are thousands of miles away.
>
> But they never mention the fact that the (unnecessary) wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan have increased the severity of the economic
collapse in the U.S. Nor do they mention that future generations
of Americans will be required to pay for these wars in the form
of tax hikes, as well as huge cuts to Social Security, Medicaid
and Medicare
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> Mike Stathis holds a Master’s of Science in biological
chemistry and biophysics from the University of Pennsylvania and
was formerly a National Science Foundation research fellow at
U.C. Berkeley. Mike serves as the Chief Investment Strategist of
AVA Investment Analytics.
--- End Quote ---
HTML http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/15/256376/us-doubledip-scam-and-war-with-iran/
HTML http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/15/256376/us-doubledip-scam-and-war-with-iran/
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 2:47 pm
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>
> [quote][center]More Mutations in Fukushima
Butterflies[/center]
> [center]Researchers have found an increase in butterflies with
unusual wing shapes, legs, and antennae than before the nuclear
disaster.[/center]
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[center]
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[center]Source: International Science Times[/center]
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> Butterflies collected from sites near Fukushima 2 months after
the power plant leaked radiation into the environment showed
more than double the mutation rates of butterflies collected
from other sites in Japan. The researchers, who hail from
University of the Ryukyus, Okinawa, reported their findings last
week (August 9) in Scientific Reports.
>
> Indeed, each subsequent generation arising from the first
radiation-affected butterflies had more severe physical
abnormalities than its parent generation. Part of this can be
explained by the passing down of damaged genes, but an
additional factor, the researchers say, was that butterflies ate
contaminated food in the area, which can be more damaging than
external exposure.
>
> “It has been believed that insects are very resistant to
radiation,” lead researcher Joji Otaki from the University of
the Ryukyus, Okinawa, told BBC News. “In that sense, our results
were unexpected.”
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HTML http://the-scientist.com/2012/08/15/more-mutations-in-fukushima-butterflies/
HTML http://the-scientist.com/2012/08/15/more-mutations-in-fukushima-butterflies/
Right! The negative stuff is ALWAYS "unexpected". Sure. NOT!
It's true that mammals are more affected because they have more
easily disrupted DNA but insects are considered just as
susceptible as mamals to increased mutations from generation to
generation. This has been conclusively proven for more than 70
YEARS! Drosphila melanogastor (the fruit fly) is one of
science's pet torture specimens.
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[center]Drosophila melanogaster[/center]
They breed rapidly and genetic effects can be studied for
several generations in a brief time period. Scientists love to
experment with them. They are cheap and its easy to keep a
control group and monitor statistically valid populations for
peer review publication requirements.
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> For purposes of assessing the risks of environmental exposure
to radionuclide emissions, the genetic effects and in utero
developmental effects are the only health hazards other than
cancer that are addressed in this Background Information
Document (BID) ,
>
> 6.5.1 Types of Genetic Harm and Duration of Expression
>
> Genetic harm (or the genetic effects) of radiation exposure is
defined as stable, heritable changes induced in the germ cells
(eggs or sperm) of exposed individuals, which are transmitted to
and expressed only in their progeny and in future generations,
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> Chromosomal damage and mutations have been demonstrated in
cells in culture, in plants, in insects, and in mammals
(UNSCEAR72,77,82), and in peripheral blood lymphocytes sf
persons exposed to radiation (UNSCEAR82, Ev79, Po78) ,
--- End Quote ---
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> Early experiimental studies showed that x-radiation is
mutagenic, In 1927, R.J, Muller reported radiation-induced
genetic changes in animals, and in 1928, L-J. Stadler reported
such changes in piants (Ki62j.
>
> Although genetic studies were carried out in the 1930s, mostly
in plants and fruit flies (Drosophila), the studies on mammals
started after the use of nuclear weapons in World War II
(UNSCEAR58).
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Gamma radiation is more powerful than x-rays so it was a
nobrainer even BEFORE the bomb that radionuclides would be
multigenerationally mutagenic. I hate it when scientists play
dumb.
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> In 1927, H.J. Muller described x-rayinduced mutations in
animals (in the insect, Drosophila), and in 1928, L.J, Stadler
reported a similar finding in plants (Ki62).
> At about the same time, radiation effects on the developing
human embryo were observed. Case reports in 1929 showed a high
rate of microcephaly (small head size) and central nervous
system disturbance and one case of skeletal defects in children
irradiated in utero (UNSCEAR69). These effects, at unrecorded
but high exposures and at generally unrecorded gestational ages,
appeared to produce central nervous system and eye defects
similar to those reported in rats as early as 1922 (Xu50)-
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HTML http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/docs/neshaps/subpart-w/historical-rulemakings/risk-assessments-methodology-eis-neshaps-for-radionuclides.pdf
HTML http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/docs/neshaps/subpart-w/historical-rulemakings/risk-assessments-methodology-eis-neshaps-for-radionuclides.pdf
Unexpected,[I] MY ASS![/I]
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 2:52 pm
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>
> [center]Wowauonihan: To respect and honor everything around
us[/center]
>
> The people that were here before we got here are returning to
the old ways because they work. For those who believe the "old
ways" were a Malthusian struggle with danger and disease that
kept human population numbers down (and consequently
sustainable), science has a refutation of this grim view of the
past. Women in hunter gatherer groups were not sedentary; they
were very mobile.
>
> Research has shown that active women do not ovulate monthly
and can go several months without ovulating. This, not danger
and disease, was the main population regulating mechanism for
Homo sapiens. When women became sedentary, they began to ovulate
regularly. They became sort of like a queen bee that has all its
food brought to it and therefore can devote all her energy to
making babies. All those human versions of the queen bee got the
population ball rolling and antiseptic techniques in medicine
made it go to the lengths we have today.
>
> The bottom line is that we (both male and female) were not
designed for a sedentary life style. A hunter gatherer can eat
meat every day and never get heart disease or hardening of the
arteries from cholesterol plaques because his metabolism is
never placed in the situation where it has too much excess
energy to store.
>
> The cheapest energy, the kind you get from ethanol, goes
straight to the liver where it is stored in fat cells (IN the
liver) that eventually inhibit liver cell oxygenation and cause
death (cirrhosis). Booze is just another great example of why
too much energy is bad.
>
> Refined sugar, just below alcohol in the "quick fix cheap high
energy charge" category, is responsible for the Diabetes
epidemic sweeping the world's human population (First Nations
tribes have suffered mightily from the effects of alcohol and
refined sugars in their diets but the rest of Homo sapiens is
heavily impacted now as well).
>
> The First Nations knew for thousands of years that it is
deleterious to human health AND the human spirit to get too much
of a "good thing". Now they are attempting to get back in
balance. If the 1% and Wall Street would realize that the
functional equivalent in human affairs of wanting too much of a
good thing (GREED), really IS bad, we would all be better off.
> [quote]
> Historically, Native nations had their own systems of food
generation, relying on tribal knowledge for harvesting, planting
and consumption techniques. But over the last 200 years, federal
Indian policy disrupted and, in some cases, devastated the
traditional practices of Native nations. Federal Indian policy
has undoubtedly destroyed the control Native nations once held
over their land and traditional agriculture, altering the diets
of Native peoples. These historical dynamics have contributed to
some of the devastating health statistics on Native homelands,
including high rates of diabetes, obesity and devastating health
conditions.
>
> First Nations recognizes that healthy Native citizens are the
cornerstone of a healthy community and nation. Thus, our work in
the area of Native food systems has been aimed at increasing
Native control over systems of food generation and consumption.
--- End Quote ---
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> Formed in 1973, the Oglala Sioux Parks and Recreation
Authority (OSPRA) is a tribally-chartered program of the Oglala
Sioux Tribe. Their goal is to develop and implement wildlife
protection policies on the Pine Ridge Reservation, encompassing
about 2 million acres in South Dakota. Moreover, the Oglala
Sioux Parks and Recreation Authority regulates and monitors
hunting activities, water systems, and other natural resource
functions. They are also charged with managing the tribal bison
herd. The herd numbers over 700 bison that harvest on four
separate pastures with 35,000 acres of land and natural water
resources.
>
> Oglala Sioux Parks and Recreation Authority is guided by the
following values:
>
> Woope Sakowin: Seven basic values or laws of OSPRA brought by
the White Buffalo Calf Woman who became a buffalo.
>
> Cante Ognake: To care for the welfare of the people in your
heart, to be generous, to share, to help, to give.
>
> Wowaunsila: To have pity and compassion for everything that
moves.
>
> Wowauonihan: To have respect and honor those we respect, that
is everything around us.
>
> Wacin Tanka: To have patience and tolerance.
>
> Wowahwala: To be humble, to seek humility.
>
> Woohitike: To have principals and discipline ourselves, to
follow our principals, not to fear those things that change and
happen around us; We must be brave and courageous.
>
> Woksape: To have understanding and wisdom.
--- End Quote ---
Other tribes throughout the USA are growing and marketing many
types of traditional First Nations crops like organic heirloom
corn (many different colors), apple orchards, berries as well as
meat protein foods like organic chicken.
HTML http://www.firstnations.org/
HTML http://www.firstnations.org/
Nobody talks about it but if 7 billion humans ALL operated human
powered machinery to preserve their health and keep ovulation
cycles down to two or three a year, THAT could be considered a
renewable energy source and using it would lower global energy
demands by maybe 5%. You get less babies nad less energy demand.
What's wrong with that? Get off those lazy butts butts and get
your asses in gear! Don't you know there's an energy war on? Now
everybody attach a one ton rock to a cable and, using gearing
and a bicycle chain, move that rock up every day! When the rock
is coming down, you use it to run a generator that powers
something in your house for a while like resistance heating for
cooking or winter. And if your wife is fertile, crack the whip
to get her cranking that rock up there! For you ladies with
couch potato husbands, tell those freeloaders that they will eat
cold food if the stove isn't charged up and you are not going
pay any hospital bills for some cholesterol laden pig! Da
Godmuder has spoken! ;D
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 3:02 pm
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>
> [quote]Research has shown that active women do not ovulate
monthly and can go several months without ovulating.
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Expand please. Women living close to the earth I've known,
ovulate closely in relation to the moon. I don't doubt, the
wilder a woman, the less she ovulates, I'm just wondering about
the studies. And I guess it seems to me, women ovulating with
the moon has a nice symmetry, as an ideal. The asymmetry of the
ovulation cycles of the hunter/gatherer have much to do with the
reality that the hunter/gather way is cyclically harsh, more
dependent on immediate stimuli in relation cycles of the earth.
[/quote]
--- Quote from: agelbert link ---
>
> WHD,
> I hear you about the moon and menstrual cycles. I know there
are surgeons that won't schedule operations within a couple of
days of the full moon because of blood flow problems. The lunar
gravity definitely affects us. However, a fine tuned metabolism
apparently bypasses lunar cycle induced ovulation. Take a look
at this chart:
>
>
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>
> The paper is here.
>
>
HTML http://www.cbcrp.org/symposium/previous/2003/pdf/pike.pdf
HTML http://www.cbcrp.org/symposium/previous/2003/pdf/pike.pdf
>
> It mostly deals with modern female diseases. I had to look up
Menarche (first menstrual cycle) because , if I ever studied it,
I'd forgotten but notice menarche is much later in the hunter
gatherer ladies. That is VERY significant because those young
lasses have been jail bait magnets for eons. Their delayed
menarche helped keep away the dudes wanting a lot of kids. The
first birth was earlier for the hunter gatherers BUT, with a
three year lactation period, another delay for a new child was
built in if the culture assumed that the new kid should not be
in competition for breast milk with the older sibling. A lower
birth rate fits elegantly.
>
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--- Quote from: WHD link ---
>
> agelbert,
>
> I know a number of women who have suffered from reproductive
area cancers. The way we treat the earth, is it any wonder at
all that illness would be concentrated there?
>
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--- Quote from: agelbert link ---
>
> WHD,
> Yes, it's logical that when toxins accumulate, reproduction
will definitely be inhibited. Women are more vulnerable than men
in this area because, unlike us, they've got all their eggs
(around 500 of them - though in much reduced size from the ones
that come down the fallopian tubes during ovulation) before they
reach puberty.
>
> Men have continual gametogenesis so, unless the testicles get
a huge shot of toxins or radionuclide damage, they CAN, in
theory, still make good sperm.
>
> Women, on the other hand, with toxins in tissues from
industrial pollutants from their birth as well as radionuclide
exposure, are literally damaging every single egg decades before
it may or may not be inseminated.
>
> It's truly amazing that we are not saddled with more disease
and deformities than we now suffer from. That is why I continue
to believe all the hysteria about overpopulation is generated by
1% media propaganda. The "problem" is being poisoned away.
>
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 3:24 pm
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>
> [quote][center]154. Neurosurgeon Dr. Eben Alexander’s
Near-Death Experience Defies Medical Model of
Consciousness[/center]
>
> Interview reveals how a near-death experience changed
everything neurosurgeon Dr. Eben Alexander thought he knew about
consciousness, spirituality, and life after death.
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You may listen to the 52 minute interview at this link or read
snippets from the taped interview below. I really enjoyed the
butterfly 🦋 wing experience.
HTML http://www.skeptiko.com/154-neurosurgeon-dr-eben-alexander-near-death-experience/
HTML http://www.skeptiko.com/154-neurosurgeon-dr-eben-alexander-near-death-experience/
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> What I do remember from deep inside coma, for one thing my
first awareness was I had no memory whatsoever of my life. I had
no language, no words. All of my experience in life, knowledge
of humans, Earth, the universe, all of that was gone. The only
thing I had was this very kind of crude existence. And I call it
in my book the “earthworm’s eye-view,” because it really was
just a crude, kind of underground.
>
> I have a vivid memory of dark roots above me and there was a
kind of monotonous pounding, a dull sound in the background
pounding away eternally. It was just murky and gross. Every now
and then a face, an animal or something would boil up out of the
muck and there might be some chant or roar or something. Then
they’d disappear again.
>
> It sounds very foreboding to talk about it right now, but in
fact, since I knew no other existence I don’t remember being
particularly alarmed when I was in that setting. I think that
that was the best consciousness that my brain could muster when
it was soaking in pus. It turns out that that seemed to last for
a very long time. Given that it was my first awareness of
anything, it actually seemed to be years or eternity. I don’t
know. It seemed like a very, very long time.
>
> Then there was a spinning melody, this bright melody that just
started spinning in front of me. Beautiful, beautiful melody
compared to that dull pounding sound that I’d heard for eons. It
spun and as it spun around, it cleared everything away. This was
the part that was so shocking and so hard to explain. It was as
if the blinders came off and the reality there was much more
crisp, real, and interactive and fresh than any reality I’ve
ever known in this earthly existence. That part is very shocking
and hard to explain when you go through it, and yet what I’ve
found since then is that a lot of people who have had NDEs
discuss the same kind of hyper-reality. But it’s very shocking
to see it.
>
> For me, I was a speck on a butterfly wing. I had no body
awareness at all. In fact, I had no body awareness through this
entire kind of deep coma experience. I was a speck on a
beautiful butterfly wing; millions of other butterflies around
us. We were flying through blooming flowers, blossoms on trees,
and they were all coming out as we flew through them.
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> Of course, as I healed—it probably took three or four weeks
for a lot of my neuroscience and neurosurgical training to come
back—all along that time I was still writing all this down and
not reading anything. I was very tempted but my son had told me,
“You want this to be worthwhile, don’t read anything else. Just
write it all down.” I just was shocked; I was buffeted because
my neuroscience mind said, “No, that couldn’t happen.” The more
I heard about how sick I was, my cortex shut down, “No, that’s
impossible, your cortex was down.”
>
> Of course, for a while I was going after the hypotheses that
involved formation of these very complex, intricate memories
either right before my coma or right coming out of it. That
really did not explain it at all. Part of the problem, when you
get right down to it, is that whole issue of remembering the
melody because that was a very clear part of it. I remember the
elation when I figured that I could just remember that melody
and that spun the melody in front of me.
>
> Then all of a sudden, boom! Everything opened up and I went
back out into that valley, so crisp and beautiful, and my angel
was with me, as I came to call her, my companion on the
butterfly wing. And then out into the core, outside of the
universe. Very difficult to explain in that fluctuation.
>
> I guess one could always argue, “Well, your brain was probably
just barely able to ignite real consciousness and then it would
flip back into a very diseased state,” which doesn’t make any
sense to me. Especially because that hyper-real state is so
indescribable and so crisp. It’s totally unlike any drug
experience. A lot of people have come up to me and said, “Oh
that sounds like a DMT experience, ”or“ That sounds like
ketamine.” Not at all. That is not even in the right ballpark.
>
> Those things do not explain the kind of clarity, the rich
interactivity, the layer upon layer of understanding and of
lessons taught by deceased loved ones and spiritual beings. Of
course, they’re all deceased loved ones. I’ve kind of wondered
where it is that these people are coming from. They say, “The
brain was very sick but it was very selective and made sure it
only remembered deceased loved ones.” They’re just not hearing
something.
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> [size=10pt]It seems to me that they’re really barely making a
dent in the medical model that we have. The medical model that
we have sees us as these biological robots and death as kind of
the ultimate Boogeyman. Can we really believe that we’re really
going to change such an entrenched system?
>
> Dr. Eben Alexander: I think so. I think that is very much a
possibility. There’s this whole issue of mind and brain and
duality versus non-dualism and the physical material reductivist
models. I go into this in great detail in my book but I think
you have to go back about 3,000 years to really get to the
beginning of the discussion and to start to see why certain
things have transpired.
>
> I think most importantly was the part of this discussion that
happened between Rene Descartes and Spinoza back in the 17th
Century. They started us into our current era. Our current era
is one of mind/consciousness/our soul has been put in the realm
of the church more-or-less. There was kind of a truce of sorts
that I guess Descartes came up with back then to say there’s
mind and then there’s body and just let the natural scientists,
those with an interest like Francis Bacon and Galileo and
Newton, let’s not burn them all at the stake. Let some of them
survive.
>
> So I think it was a good thing to have that truce so that
science survived. I mean, I’m a scientist and I love science and
the scientific method. I’ve just come to realize that the
universe is much grander than we appreciate. So I have to simply
broaden my definitions.
> I think science is still very important to get us there.
Getting back to that mind/brain issue, what happened over time
is science kind of grew up and got to be more and more powerful
at giving us many things. Science has been a real wonder. But I
think that it’s been somewhat at a price and that price came
from splitting out mind and body back then and that dualistic
approach because as science gained more and more of an upper
hand, people were losing track of the kind of mind part of it,
the consciousness part.
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> Can we really then hope to get out of the consciousness loop
that we’re in now? Is it just going to be a matter of a
philosophical shift like we had back in the 1700’s? Or is there
something fundamental to the way that we’re constructed that’s
going to keep us limited in how much we can really tap into and
understand that knowing that you experienced?
> Dr. Eben Alexander: In my view, what I think is going to
happen is that science in the much broader sense of the word and
spirituality which will be mainly an acknowledgement of the
profound nature of our consciousness will grow closer and closer
together. We will all move forward into a far more enlightened
world. One thing that we will have to let go of is this kind of
addiction to simplistic, primitive reductive materialism because
there’s really no way that I can see a reductive materialist
model coming remotely in the right ballpark to explain what we
really know about consciousness now.
>
> Coming from a neurosurgeon who, before my coma, thought I was
quite certain how the brain and the mind interacted and it was
clear to me that there were many things I could do or see done
on my patients and it would eliminate consciousness. It was very
clear in that realm that the brain gives you consciousness and
everything else and when the brain dies there goes
consciousness, soul, mind—it’s all gone. And it was clear.
>
> Now, having been through my coma, I can tell you that’s
exactly wrong and that in fact the mind and consciousness are
independent of the brain. It’s very hard to explain that,
certainly if you’re limiting yourself to that reductive
materialist view.
>
> Any of the scientists in the crowd who want to get in on this,
what I would recommend is there’s one book I consider the bible
of this. It’s a wonderful book but it is really for those who
have a strong scientific interest in it. It’s called Irreducible
Mind, Edward Kelly, Emily Williams Kelly, Bruce Greyson, Adam
Crabtree, Alan Galt, Michael Grassa, the whole group from Esalen
and also based in the Division of Perceptual Studies at the
University of Virginia, have done an incredibly good job. Toward
a Psychology for the 21st Century is the subtitle and that’s
exactly what it is.
>
> I felt their book was quite illustrative and of course it
caused a huge splash when it came out in 1987, but again a lot
of the reductive materialists like myself were not really going
to put in the work to go through all of that. We just thought,
“We can’t understand it so it can’t be true.”
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> Dr. Eben Alexander: I would say for one thing I think that a
healthy skeptical approach to all this is a good thing because
it helps us get to the truth. It helps us know the answer. What
we have to be careful of, of course, is not getting in the trap
of having our prejudices rule the day. A lot of these
experiments and studies, how you interpret them will depend a
lot on what your prejudices are going in.
>
> I found early on in my experience, I had to do as Descartes
recommended when he was talking about getting to the truth, and
that was to really ignore or to reject everything I had ever
accepted as real. That was the only way to start getting to
where I could figure any of this out.
>
> I know that a lot of the reductive scientific crowd out
there—I have a favorite quote from Stephen Hawking. He says,
“There’s a fundamental difference between religion, which is
based on authority or imposed dogma and faith, as opposed to
science which is based on observation and reason.” What I would
say is I think his statement is true as a general statement but
that science, and certainly those who believe in science and
scientists, are as prone to addiction to imposed dogma and faith
as our religious zealot. So one has to be very careful to really
step back and want to know the truth. That’s what I think we all
would like to know.
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> Alex Tsakiris: In this case, if we really do step back one of
the things that’s troubling to me, and you touched on it a
minute ago, is how overwhelming the evidence seems to be. At
this point, we can confidently say that near-death experiences
didn’t just start happening in the last 20 years since we had
advanced resuscitation techniques.
>
> We can confidently say that 4% to 5% of everyone who has a
cardiac arrest is having this. There’s obviously hundreds of
millions of people over time who have had these accounts and we
have thousands and thousands of well-documented, consistent
accounts across cultures, across times. These are the measures
that we would normally use to say, “This is a real phenomenon.”
>
> And then when the skeptics, and really the mainstream
scientists have pounded against it for 20 years with really what
amounts to a bunch of very silly explanations but ones that have
been carefully looked at and dismissed—was it CO2 , a fear of
death, other psychological factors? Is it all the different
things like REM intrusion? All these things.
>
> Clearly this would normally be something where we’d be putting
a lot of attention into it. Or that it would then become the
presumed explanation for it. But none of that’s happening. They
have managed to hold back the dyke, you know? So what do you
make of that?
>
> Dr. Eben Alexander: Okay, I think in trying to get back to
your original question with the previous guest, to me one thing
that has emerged from my experience and from very rigorous
analysis of that experience over several years, talking it over
with others that I respect in neuroscience, and really trying to
come up with an answer, is that consciousness outside of the
brain is a fact. It’s an established fact.
>
> And of course, that was a hard place for me to get, coming
from being a card-toting reductive materialist over decades. It
was very difficult to get to knowing that consciousness, that
there’s a soul of us that is not dependent on the brain. As much
as I know all the reductive materialist arguments against that,
I think part of the problem is it’s like the guy looking for his
keys under the streetlight. Reductive materialists are under the
streetlight because that’s where they can see things.
>
> But in fact, if you’re keys are lost out in the darkness, the
techniques there are no good. It is only by letting go of that
reductive materialism and opening up to what is a far more
profound understanding of consciousness. This is where I think
for me as a scientist, I look at quantum mechanics and I go into
this in great detail in my book, is a huge part of the smoking
gun. It shows us that there’s something going on there about
consciousness that our primitive models don’t get.
>
> It’s far more profound than I ever realized before. That’s
where I’m coming from because my experience showed me very
clearly that incredibly powerful consciousness far beyond what
I’m trapped in here in the earthly realm begins to emerge as you
get rid of that filtering mechanism of the brain. It is really
astonishing. And that is what we need to explain. Thousands or
millions of near-death experiencers have talked about this. Not
only that but as you mentioned a few minutes ago, people don’t
even have to go to a near-death situation.
>
> There are plenty of mystical experiences that have occurred
over millennia that are part of the same mechanism. That’s why
all this talk about oxygen, tension, CO2 and all that you can
pretty much throw out the window. You really need to be working
towards explaining all of those phenomena. Part of the problem
is they’re hard to explain but that is a clue.
>
> Willy Lomans was asked, “Why do you rob banks?” He said,
“Because that’s where the money is.” Well, same kind of thing.
They are hard issues and the whole understanding of what
consciousness really involves. I came a lot closer to that in my
coma experience and coming out of it and in doing all the very
intense homework for the three years since then to try and
understand it. It’s a difficult question because it’s close to
the real truth that we’re going after. If it were easy it would
be widely available. It would already have been written up by
somebody who wanted to publish or perish. That’s not how it
works. It’s not that easy.
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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Date: July 7, 2018, 3:30 pm
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>
> RE, regarding your health problems. It's never too late to
improve your diet to reverse certain health conditions. Even
clogged arteries can be reversed (RE'd?) by going on a short
term plant based diet. Of course big pharm would have you
believe you need to buy a pill for that, and they just keep you
alive instead of fixing the problem.
>
> But I think you know this and have made your choice? Did I
read correctly that your legs were amputated?
>
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>
> EndisNigh,
> I agree that, since most cells in the human body are replaced
(almost fully - except for the brain cells - every seven years
or so) at varying rates (the inner lining of the stomach and
intestines have the fastest replacement rates), it's never too
late to improve one's health with diet. RE said he has PAD and
he had some "rotor rootor" (angioplasty perhaps to widen the
arterial lumen?) done to keep his circulation sufficient below
the knees so he wouldn't lose that part of his legs.
>
> This short article on vitamin B12 and vegans is interesting
because it mentions some Hindu vegans that don't take B12
supplement but don't suffer anemia because they apparently get
their B12 from the bugs that get eaten with the plant tissue.
> [quote]It is true that Hindu vegans living in certain parts of
India do not suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency. This has led
some to conclude that plant foods do provide this vitamin. This
conclusion, however, is erroneous as many small insects, their
feces, eggs, larvae and/or residue, are left on the plant foods
these people consume, due to non-use of pesticides and
inefficient cleaning methods.
>
> This is how these people obtain their vitamin B12. This
contention is borne out by the fact that when vegan Indian
Hindus later migrated to England, they came down with
megaloblastic anaemia within a few years. In England, the food
supply is cleaner, and insect residues are completely removed
from plant foods (16).
>
> The only reliable and absorbable sources of vitamin B12 are
animal products, especially organ meats and eggs (17). Though
present in lesser amounts than meat and eggs, dairy products do
contain B12. Vegans, therefore, should consider adding dairy
products into their diets. If dairy cannot be tolerated, eggs,
preferably from free-run hens, are a virtual necessity.
>
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HTML http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods33.php
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Re: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE
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DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 7, 2018, 3:31 pm
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>
> [quote]Opinion: What Is the Human Genome?
>
>
> The human genome that researchers sequenced at the turn of the
century doesn’t really exist as we know it.
>
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> The Human Genome project sequenced “the human genome” and is
widely credited with setting in motion the most exciting era of
fundamental new scientific discovery since Galileo. That’s
remarkable, because in important ways “the human genome” that we
have labeled as such doesn’t actually exist.
>
> Plato essentially asserted that things like chairs and dogs,
which we observe in this physical world, and even concepts like
virtues, are but imperfect representations or instances of some
ideal that exists, but not in the material world. Such a
Platonic ideal is “the human genome,” a sequence of about 3
billion nucleotides arrayed across a linear scale of position
from the start of chromosome 1 to the end of the sex
chromosomes. Whether it was obtained from one person or several
has so far been shrouded in secrecy for bioethical reasons, but
it makes no real difference. What we call the human genome
sequence is really just a reference: it cannot account for all
the variability that exists in the species, just like no single
dog on earth, real or imagined, can fully incorporate all the
variability in the characteristics of dogs.
>
> Nor is the human genome we have a “’normal” genome. What would
it mean to be “normal” for the nucleotide at position 1,234,547
on chromosome 11? All we know is that the donor(s) had no
identified disease when bled for the cause, but sooner or later
some disease will arise. Essentially all available whole genome
sequences show potentially disease-producing variants, even
including nonfunctional genes, in donors who were unaffected at
the time.
>
> Furthermore, the current reference genome sequence is haploid,
which means that even if it were compiled from just one donor,
the single reference sequence does not report the variation at
millions of nucleotide positions between the donor’s two copies
(except for X and Y) that we know exist. I understand that the
DNA template is being resequenced, to be reported as a diploid
sequence, which is progress. Hopefully this will be done in a
way that produces phased sequence, in which each chromosome is
reported separately, rather than just identifying the two
alleles at each variable site along the genome without
specifying on which chromosome it lies. Only the former format
will represent sequences as they actually exist in the sequenced
person, identifying which alleles go together on a chromosome,
and are thus linked evolutionarily.
>
> Even so the reference human genome will keep changing!
>
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