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       #Post#: 11068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: November 10, 2018, 12:26 pm
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       Agelbert NOTE: YES, this belongs here. EVERY bit of  the U.S.
       Military Industrial Complex Sponsored Murder and Mayhem
       (including declared wars and undeclared wars) since 1980 has
       been planned BY the Hydrocarbon Hellspawn 🦕 AND executed
       by their bought and paid for TOOLS 🦍🦀 in
       Government. The Fossil Fuel Fascists 🦖, above and beyond
       the horrendous planetary death toll from carbon pollution
       hurting thousands of species (inculding humans ☠️),
       have the blood of millions of innocent people on their hands.
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       [center]The War on Terror’s Toll, From Atrocities Abroad
       ☠️☠️☠️☠️&#97
       60;️
       to Mass Shootings ☠️ at Home[/center]
       November 10, 2018
       A new Brown University study says the US-led so-called “War on
       Terror” has killed around 500,000 people in Afghanistan, Iraq
       and Pakistan — an “undercount,” it stresses. And as Ian David
       Long — an-ex U.S. Marine who served in the Afghan war — kills 12
       people in Thousand Oaks, California, might we also count victims
       of mass shootings carried out by U.S. veterans? We speak to
       Vijay Prashad of the Tricontinental Institute for Social
       Research.
       [center]
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       #Post#: 11076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: November 10, 2018, 4:26 pm
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       [center]The US [img
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       />&#129421; Must Take Responsibility for Asylum Seekers and the
       History That Drives Them[/center]
       [font=times new roman]BY David L. Wilson &#128330;,
       Truthout[/font]
       PUBLISHED November 10, 2018
       Many Americans feel genuine sympathy for Central American asylum
       seekers, but confronted with the US's own failing systems, fall
       for the right-wing line that "it's not our problem." However,
       anyone who has followed the history of US policies and
       involvement in Central America knows that the current crises in
       the region and these migrants absolutely are our responsibility.
       Full article: [img
       width=50]
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       />
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       #Post#: 11111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: November 13, 2018, 4:16 pm
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       EcoWatch
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       />[/center]
       [center]Koch Industries &#129429;&#129430; Lobbies Against
       Electric Vehicle Tax Credit[/center]
       DeSmogBlog
       By Dana Drugmand
       Nov. 12, 2018 11:26AM EST
       Koch Industries [img
       width=20]
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       />is calling for the elimination of tax credits for electric
       vehicles (EVs), all while claiming that it does not oppose
       plug-in cars and inviting the elimination of oil and gas
       subsidies that the petroleum conglomerate and its industry peers
       receive.
       Outgoing Nevada Republican Senator Dean Heller introduced a bill
       in September that would lift the sales cap on electric vehicles
       eligible for a federal tax credit, and replace the cap with a
       deadline that would dictate when the credit would start being
       phased out.
       Under the current tax credit for EVs, once a manufacturer sells
       200,000 EVs in the U.S. the amount of the credit gets slashed in
       half, then halved again. The full credit amount is $7,500. Tesla
       has already hit the 200,000 cap and GM will soon reach it, so
       both companies would benefit from a tax credit extension via
       eliminating the sales cap. Heller's bill lifts the 200,000
       vehicle limit and substitutes a phase-out period starting in
       2022.
       But the conservative senator's bill is facing opposition from
       the conservative billionaire Koch brothers.
       In a letter to senators dated Oct. 24, Koch Industries lobbyist
       Philip Ellender urges opposition to the expansion of EV tax
       credits through 2022. Ellender claims that the tax credits
       primarily benefit wealthy consumers and that subsidization
       interferes with "innovation and consumer choice."
       The letter cites two studies, each by a right-wing think tank.
       One study comes from the Pacific Research Institute, which has
       received fossil fuel funding—including more than $1.7 million
       from Koch-related foundations and $615,000 from ExxonMobil. The
       PRI study, "Costly Subsidies for the Rich: Quantifying the
       Subsidies Offered to Battery Electric Powered Cars," emphasizes
       that "the majority of the dollar benefits from energy and
       electric car subsidies are paid to tax filers in the higher
       income tax brackets."
       The other study is from the Manhattan Institute, another "free
       market think tank" that takes in money from the Koch network and
       Exxon. The study paints a misleading picture of EVs and their
       subsidies.
       In addition to citing biased studies by groups tied to Koch
       money, Ellender claims in the letter, "We do not oppose electric
       vehicles."
       This sentiment echoes the company's 2016 advertorial, in which
       Koch Industries claimed to be "all for electric vehicles."
       Ellender also claims that Koch Industries is against any and all
       energy subsidies, even ones that benefit the company. According
       to the letter:
       Instead of expanding this subsidy for wealthy EV owners,
       Congress should eliminate it along with all other energy
       incentives—including eliminating any incentives given to us and
       our competitors where we may participate. We are focused on
       long-term value creation, not short-term windfalls.
       In reality, while Koch Industries is claiming publicly to
       support ending fossil fuel subsidies (along with EV and clean
       energy incentives), Koch lobbyists have long worked to ensure
       that the petroleum industry continues to get subsidized.
       As Koch vs. Clean previously pointed out, "In a detailed 2011
       report on Koch Industries, the Center for Public Integrity
       wrote: 'Oil is the core of the Koch business empire, and the
       company's lobbyists and officials have successfully fought to
       preserve the industry's tax breaks and credits.' The report
       documented that Koch lobbyists have worked to preserve billions
       of dollars in oil industry subsidies, including the Section 199
       manufacturing tax deduction and the 'last-in, first out'
       accounting rule."
       In fact, according to the International Business Times, Koch
       Industries has itself directly secured subsidies totaling more
       than $195 million.
       The Koch network also lobbied for the Trump tax cuts that became
       law late last year. The corporate tax cut is not specific to
       energy, but it benefits giant corporations including Big Oil and
       Koch Industries nonetheless. Americans for Tax Fairness
       estimated that the Kochs would save more than $1 billion just
       this year from the tax cut—a significant windfall for a
       corporate behemoth that claims, "We  [img
       width=60]
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       />focused on long-term value creation, not short-term windfalls.
       "
       [img
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       [quote]Koch vs. California: These Groups Want Pruitt &#128018;
       to Undo the State’s Right to Regulate Auto Emissions
  HTML https://www.ecowatch.com/california-pruitt-koch-emissions-standards-2558995169.html<br
       />… @ewg @UCSUSA @YEARSofLIVING @ClimateReality @greenpeaceusa
       @EnvDefenseFund
       9:50 AM - Apr 11, 2018[/quote]
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       #Post#: 11181--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: November 25, 2018, 3:15 pm
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       [center]Oil Industry &#128009;&#129429;&#129430;
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       />Cleanup Costs Vastly Exceed Alberta Government’s
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       /> Estimates
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       [/center]
       [center]
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       [font=times new roman]TheRealNews[/font]
       Published on Nov 24, 2018
       Regan Boychuk of Reclaim Alberta explains that Canadian
       taxpayers could ultimately be on the hook for hundreds of
       billions of oil industry cleanup costs
       Visit
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       for more stories and help support
       our work by donating at
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       #Post#: 11291--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: December 10, 2018, 4:20 pm
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       [center]Court Orders Three Iowa Wind Turbines Dismantled
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       December 10th, 2018 by Steve Hanley
       SNIPPET:
       A court in Iowa has ordered three wind turbines in Fayette
       County, Iowa be dismantled by December 9. Local residents are
       standing outside watching them come down and cheering. What’s
       going on? Some of it has to do with NIMBY, some of it has to do
       with money, and some of it has to do with the “city vs. country”
       divide that helped propel the current president into office. The
       dispute comes down to whether or not the developers who put up
       the wind turbines had a proper building permit. The court ruled
       they did not.
       Full article:
  HTML https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/10/court-orders-three-iowa-wind-turbines-dismantled/
       Agelbert COMMENT: I smell one of these behind the "anlaysis" the
       judge made before his Court order:
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       />[/center]
       If those who claim to be so discomfited by wind trubines had to
       actually pay for the damage the fossil fuel powered electricity
       they gleefully use in their homes causes, they would opt for
       sound proofing instead of Koch Brothers&#129429;&#129430;
       funded, Profit Over People &#9760;&#65039; and Planet&#128681;,
       Renewable Energy Strangling &#128520;.
       I defy anyone here to claim you "cannot soundproof against wind
       turbines". That is TOTAL BS. Do you want to talk SERIOUSLY about
       sound pollution or do you want to cherry pick "acceptable" and
       "unacceptable" sounds caused by out civilization (i. e. make
       stuff up)?
       How many people in the USA live next to train tracks? MILLIONS
       of them. You don't hear of any court ordering the train tracks
       relocated because of the sound, MUCH GREATER than that of wind
       tirbines, generated by frequent freight trains, often carrying
       toxic cargo to boot!
       True, if you are outside, you cannot avoid the sound that wind
       turbines make. But, if you are inside, which is where people in
       Iowa are 90% (OR MORE!) of the time, it is not terribly
       difficult to block the low frequency sound waves produced by
       wind turbines.
       The HYPOCRITES that whine about wind turbines have consistently
       been quiet as DEATH about the decisions made in towns all
       accross the USA, for the last century, to permit the building of
       Coal fired power plants near neighborhoods of the poor.
       I would order the judge that gave the Koch Brothers
       &#129429;&#129430; this Corruption Based Christmas Present to
       move to a house a mile or so downwind of a Koch Brothers
       &#129429;&#129430; refinery in Southern Texas.
       I would plainly ask that judge, What part of the Precautionary
       Principle of Science does he so poorly interpret that he can
       turn a blind eye to massive fossil fuel pollution, while
       claiming that the sound of Wind Turbines is "unacceptable"
       through legalese DOUBLETALK about "permits"?
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       />[/center]
       It was that judge's responsibility to COMPUTE the benefit of
       those wind turbines to the community, in terms of pollution
       avoided, and COMPARE THAT BENEFIT with the bother of the low
       frequency sound that could cause property values to go down
       around said wind turbines. He SHIRKED his respsonsibility,
       PERIOD!
       As far as Fossil Fuels are concerned, people that talk about
       NIMBY (not in my backyard) have to change NIMBY to NOPE, not on
       planet earth. When they DO THAT, and not a second before, we can
       talk about whether wind turbines are properly positioned or not.
       The double standard in this country between fossil fuel powered
       power plants and Renewable Energy power plants is the height of
       hypocrisy.
       #Post#: 11303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: December 12, 2018, 4:07 pm
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       Agelbert NOTE: Don't think for a secomd that the Hydrocarbon
       Hellspawn are any less corrosive to our environment and our
       government than they were in 2017. If anything, they have
       increased their unethical destructive activity. [img
       width=20]
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       />
       This article covers their typical mens rea modus operandi. These
       bastards need to be shut down in Ohio (and everywhere else) or
       we are toast. [img
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       />
       [center][img
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       />[/center]
       OCT 29, 2017
       BY BRAD WIENERS AND DAVID HASEMYER
       [center]How Fossil Fuel Allies Are Tearing Apart Ohio's Embrace
       of Clean Energy  >:([/center]
       [center]
       With scare studies, policy drafts and political donations,
       industry groups turned Ohio lawmakers against policies they once
       overwhelmingly supported.[/center]
       SNIPPET 1:
       As fossil fuel &#129430; interests &#128121; mobilized at the
       national level to fight proposals to mitigate climate change
       that would undercut their profits, they made Ohio a priority for
       fighting clean energy policy at the state level. Beginning in
       earnest in 2011, a network of coal companies, utilities, think
       tanks, nonprofit foundations and political action committees
       coalesced to roll back Ohio's alternative energy initiatives.
       SNIPPET 2:
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       Agelbert NOTE: Bill Seitz is a typical (bought and paid for)
       KochRoach.
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       width=300]
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       Read more: [img
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       />
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       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: December 16, 2018, 3:32 pm
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       [center]Friends of the Earth foe.org[/center]
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       [center]VICTORY [img
       width=30]
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       />Ryan Zinke &#129430; resigns as Interior Secretary
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       Dec 15, 2018, 9:59 AM
       Dear Anthony,
       Victory for the environment: Ryan Zinke resigns from the
       Department of the Interior after onslaught of scandals!
       VICTORY! Ryan Zinke just stepped down as Secretary of the
       Interior, according to a tweet from Donald Trump. He will leave
       at the end of the year. This was largely thanks to people like
       you demanding he be held accountable for his corruption.
       Every day Ryan Zinke was in office, he worked to destroy our
       public lands and waters -- with devastating impacts on our
       communities. He slashed protections for places like the Arctic
       National Wildlife Refuge and Bears Ears National Monument. And
       he did it all to help his fossil fuel industry friends.
       The scandals surrounding Zinke have been building for months.
       The DOI Inspector General released a report showing that every
       time Zinke had a choice between benefiting taxpayers and
       himself, he chose himself. He even changed policies so taxpayers
       would cover travel for his wife, and wasted $25,000 on a
       romantic trip to Turkey with her.
       His corruption was so severe that the DOI Inspector General
       referred an investigation to the Department of Justice for
       possible criminal prosecution.
       Friends of the Earth members like you spoke out on these
       scandals and made them impossible for Trump to ignore. Zinke
       resigned after you signed petitions, made phone calls, took to
       social media and took to the streets to demand that he be kicked
       out of the Department of Interior.
       This shows that when people like you stand up to Trump and his
       Administration, you can make a difference. You can stop them
       from destroying our environment and endangering our communities.
       Forcing Zinke out is a huge victory for people and the
       environment. Each day Zinke was Interior Secretary, he worked to
       advance his radical plan to slash national monuments, cut
       Indigenous communities out of the decision-making process, and
       ignore significant environmental, cultural, and scientific
       information. And he did it all in a mad dash to frack
       &#9760;&#65039;, mine &#9760;&#65039; and drill &#9760;&#65039;
       on America's public lands.
       And until the scandals caught up to him, he was dangerously
       &#9760;&#65039; effective at it. [img
       width=60]
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       By kicking Zinke out of the Department of the Interior, you
       helped send a strong message that it’s unacceptable for our
       leaders to put the fossil fuel industry and other corporate
       interests ahead of people and the planet.
       Trump &#129408; is still trying to fill his government with
       corrupt extremists &#128181; &#127913; and climate deniers
       &#129429;. Zinke’s likely replacement, [size=14pt]David
       Bernhardt &#128009;, is a walking conflict of interest. Before
       coming to Interior he was a high paid lobbyist representing the
       very industries that will profit from Trump’s plan [img
       width=70]
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       />to hand our public lands and waters over to
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       />[b]polluters.
       That’s why we’ll need you with us every step of the way as we
       work to stop these dangerous nominees and appointees. But
       Zinke’s ouster shows that when we all take action together, we
       win.
       Thank you for helping build a better future for our country and
       our planet.
       Standing with you,
       Nicole Ghio,
       Senior fossil fuels program manager,
       Friends of the Earth
  HTML https://foe.org/news/
       Agelbert NOTE: As you have observed, Trump [img
       width=100]
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       />has MORE than FOUR Profit Over People and Planet 'HORSEMEN'
       (see: The Book of Revelation in the Bible) on his [img
       width=20]
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       />WRECKING CREW.
       [center][img
       width=640]
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       #Post#: 11345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: December 16, 2018, 6:47 pm
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       December 16, 2018
       The story of fossil fuel consumption growth is a story of
       technologies used, misused and moulded by the corporations that
       control them; of capitalist expansion, particularly after the
       second world war; and of government complicity.
  HTML https://truthout.org/articles/until-we-confront-capitalism-we-will-not-solve-the-climate-crisis/
       #Post#: 11437--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: December 31, 2018, 4:31 pm
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       December 31, 2018
       SNIPPET:
       Put your hands together for the most watched video on our
       Facebook page in 2018! We’re honestly not surprised that this
       one took the crown. The Trump &#129408; Administration
       &#128009;&#129429;&#129430; has done a lot of damage to the
       climate movement this year – and clearly, people were paying
       attention.
       Every week (and sometimes every day) seemed to present another
       instance of the White House on the wrong side of climate
       history. Case in point: the administration’s decision to place a
       tariff on solar panels manufactured overseas. This video
       explains why imposing this tariff was such a terrible idea,
       hurting both American workers and our planet.
       [center][img
       width=640]
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       Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
       By: AGelbert Date: January 1, 2019, 1:14 pm
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       [font=times new roman]CleanTechnica[/font]
       Support CleanTechnica’s work via donations on Patreon or PayPal!
       Or just go buy a cool t-shirt, cup, baby outfit, bag, or hoodie.
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       [center]Rooftop Solar Tax Relief Bills Vetoed By Michigan
       Governor [img
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       January 1st, 2019 by Steve Hanley
       In most parts of the country, the improvements people make to
       their homes increase the taxable value of their property. The
       building permit process has two parts. The first makes sure the
       proposed improvements comply with all applicable building codes.
       The second sends the information from the application to the tax
       assessor so the value can be taxed the next time property tax
       bills are rendered. But is a rooftop solar system a taxable
       improvement?
       The answer to that question depends on where you live. Some
       states say yes, others say no. Even within a state, the rules
       may vary. That is the case in Michigan where most communities
       choose to treat rooftop solar systems as personal property that
       is not subject to real estate taxes. But Ann Arbor, one of the
       larger cities in Michigan, takes the opposite  view. It treats
       rooftop solar systems as real estate, claiming state law
       requires it to do so. Therefore, the value of those systems are
       taxed by the city.
       Ann Arbor residents Mark Clevey and Nancy Fenton filed a lawsuit
       last year asking the court to declare their rooftop solar system
       was personal property and not real estate. They lost. According
       to a report by Michigan Live, tax tribunal judge Steven Lasher
       agreed with the city, saying residential solar energy systems
       are not common enough to be considered the type of “customary”
       personal property exempt from taxation.
       To be clear, the judge ruled that if rooftop solar systems were
       more common, they would be exempt but because they are not more
       common, they are taxable, even though taking them out of the
       taxable category would encourage more people to install rooftop
       solar. “The law is a ass,” Charles Dickens wrote in the 19th
       century. Things in the legal sphere have not improved all that
       much since then, apparently.
       In 2018, the Michigan legislature stepped in to resolve the
       issue. It passed two bills — HB 5143 and HB 5680 — that
       specifically defined rooftop solar systems as personal property.
       Even the Ann Arbor city council passed a resolution last fall
       supporting both bills. HB 5143 passed the House 106-3 and the
       Senate 38-0. HB 5680 passed the House 105-4 and the Senate 38-0.
       Just before the end of the year, Michigan governor Rick Snyder,
       the man who has refused to lift a finger to help the citizens of
       Flint solve their water crisis, vetoed both measures.
       “There was no opposition,” says Clevey, who is also vice
       president of the Great Lakes Renewable Energy Association. “It
       was a good idea, it was based on merit, and everybody came
       together and said, ‘This (taxation) is bad for everybody, so
       let’s get rid of this stupid law.’”
       Ostensibly, the governor’s action was based on the fact that the
       new legislation would set up two classes of rooftop solar owners
       — those who installed their systems before the law changed and
       those who did so afterward. This sort of legislative oversight
       is routinely resolved by the courts, which have ruled
       consistently that any legislation is presumed to apply
       retroactively unless the legislature clearly states a different
       intention.
       But Snyder was having none of it. Common sense, logic, and the
       will of the people be damned. The law is the law is the law and
       never the twain shall meet, or something like that.
       Comments on the Michigan Live story may provide some
       illumination on this subject. A person calling himself Snide
       posted, “Almost unanimous support in both chambers by both
       parties yet he vetoes…. In this case I’d say follow the
       money……..who will benefit by this not going ahead and check
       Snyder’s connection to them,” which got this reply, “Fossil fuel
       companies have Snyder in their pocket.” Perhaps so. Snyder has
       been obstinately opposed to any proposal that would allow Tesla
       to sell direct to Michigan residents.
       While perusing the comments, I couldn’t help noticing this
       posting from someone styling himself as SpotOn: “A123 was an
       alternative energy for cars. How did that work out? Over 500
       Billion in subsidies before they went bankrupt.” A free
       subscription to the CleanTechnica newsletter to the first person
       who spots the error in that statement. If we could turn idiocy
       into energy, we could decarbonize the electrical grid overnight.
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       />despicable, as well as abysmally stupid, actions are easy to
       explain. Snyder is a Kochroach, period.
       Steve Hanley, the author of this truth filled article, pointed
       out the mendacious doubletalk comment by "SpotOn &#129429;".
       That comment can be explained the same way.
       Steve said, "If we could turn idiocy into energy, we could
       decarbonize the electrical grid overnight. "
       I would add a small modification to that statement:
       If we could turn Hydrocarbon Hellspawn
       &#128009;&#129429;&#128520;&#129430; bought and paid for
       Mendacious PROPAGANDA idiocy into energy, we could decarbonize
       the electrical grid overnight.
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