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Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2018, 10:22 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This is a repost form the summer of 2014.
Yes, I know that of course, our dear democratic, never start a
war, goody two shoes fossil fuel/bank oligarchy would NEVER
THINK OF SUCH A THING but it is INTERESTING that DENMARK has
this GOING FOR THEM (or is it going AGAINST THEM because it
"upsets" some powerful fossil fuelers in the USA?).
[quote]WWF, the global conservation organization, is applauding
the Danish government for having set the most ambitious climate
and renewable energy targets of any country in combination with
a long track record of publically promoting and implementing
clean and sustainable energies.[/quote]
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The attack Thursday afternoon on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
killed 298 people from nearly a dozen nations — including
vacationers, students and a large contingent of scientists
heading to an AIDS conference in Australia. At least 189 of the
dead were from the Netherlands.
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And now add to the above these "STRANGE"
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Post Scriptum: Strange Coincidences? Moscow Metro Tragedy and
Malaysian Airliner MH17 Downing
[quote]We have just experienced two terrible tragedies. The
Moscow Metro tragedy that claimed the lives of 23 people with
dozens of wounded happened on the very same day Russian
President Vladimir Putin was in Brazil, participating in the
formation of the BRICS Bank. The Malaysian airliner MH17 tragic
downing in eastern Ukraine, with almost 300 dead, happened at
the same exact time Vladimir Putin was flying back home.
As I explained before, and will continue explaining in the
following piece: the dollar hegemony has effectively ended, the
US has just lost it’s single super-power status. And Putin was
the driving force behind all this.[/quote]
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Yes, of course! It's all EMPTY suppositions and baseless
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USA = [img width=80
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Fossil fuel/Banking oligarchy =
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USA is run by GUESS WHO!!?
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When terrorism is STATE SPONSORED, it's not terrorism; it's a
warning by a ruthless predator.
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[move]Fasten your seat belts, folks. Denmark might be a pushover
but Russia (with BRICs bank backing) isn't. [/move]
Finally, there is another grizzly "DOT" :o you may wish to
connect at your leisure...
[quote]This is the second Malaysian airliner falling from the
sky/disappearing in a short time.
The first one was the one that ‘allegedly’ disappeared in Asia
several months ago.
Coincidence? Perhaps not, if we recall that Kuala Lumpur,
[size=14pt]the capital of Malaysia, recently hosted
International War Crimes Tribunal that indicted the states of
the USA and Israel for war crimes. This same international
tribunal also indicted both countries’ heads of state, along
with many high level officials.
People involved in that tribunal were the likes of Leuren Moret
and Alfred Lambremont Webre. Considering that the evidence
presented at the tribunal was damning and officials named were
the very top of the US and Israel, do you think that maybe, just
maybe, someone has a score to settle with Malaysia?
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Incidentally, per expert Leuren Moret, the founder of Malaysia
Airlines (who treated the airline as his baby, his pride and
joy) is the former PM of Malaysia, who was an active part of the
tribunal. Add to the above a personal vendetta, and a warning.
>:(
Last, but not least: 13 years ago, in 2001, a Ukraine missile
shot down another plane over the Black Sea. It was a commercial
jet from the Russian Sibir airline, en route to Turkey. Over 80
people died. The investigation revealed that the military was
poorly trained and shot down the plane by mistake. However, the
investigation was never completed, and Ukraine never admitted
its responsibility. At the time, there supposedly was no war in
Ukraine.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2018, 10:25 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This is a repost form the summer of 2014.
FL ML17: did you know that the vast field of smoking carnage may
actually be a “tiny roadside crash site”? Read on.
Posted on July 21, 2014 by Ann Kreilkamp
As the theories and rumors continue to swirl in the jittery
ethers, this is the most interesting piece of possible info I’ve
yet come across. And yes, it does remind of Flight 93
(Pennsylvania, in a field, 9/11, remember?) — except this time,
they decided to add carnage and twisted metal to the mix, rather
than just stage a depression in a field with NO plane parts, no
bodies . . .
In any case, this latest false flag/distraction — (from the GAZA
genocide, from the BRICs devlopment bank, from ongoing climate
catastrophes, like stupendous fires in western U.S.. Canada and
Siberia) — that also serves to demonize Putin and, in a one/two
punch, parallels the (staged?) child trafficking story on the
U.S. border — does seem to be working!
Even if we ignore in disgust the controlled narrative delivered
by the lock-step statist MSM, we’re all mesmerized by “what
really happened to Flight ML 17,” and of course, its
relationship, if any to Flight ML 370, the last (downed?) flight
to capture us, and that went on for months!
We no longer have months to dither. We need to get cracking NOW.
Or is it too late? As one commentator said about one of the many
latest posts that point towards inevitable global destruction:
“This used to be a call to action. Now it’s an interesting data
point on the way to extinction.”
Yep. Whether “Sheeple,” or “Awake,” we’re magnetized by FL ML
17. ;)
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P.S.: The Corbett Report has a good “open source investigation.”
Via Bill.
Flight MH 17′s Tiny Roadside Crash Site (IMAGES)
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Now WHERE have we seen such UNDAMAGED passports after an
airliner was TOTALLY DESTROYED before?
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2018, 10:26 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This is a repost form the summer of 2014.
UPDATED MH17 Downing background Context and Cause Hypothesis by
Agelbert
(several typos fixed too! ;D)
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date=1406219895]
[quote author=agelbert link=topic=3055.msg51712#msg51712
date=1406082383]
[quote]I do think most armies would have radar systems that were
sophisticated enough to tell the difference furthermore I think
it is quite likely the intelligence of most nations could track
the movements of the head of state particularly if they were in
a state of semi-war with the said nation. I feel whatever
happened it is likely this plane was shot down intentionally and
it is just a question of figuring out what the motive behind the
attack was.
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As a former air traffic controller I can tell you EXACTLY how
the big ones paint on the screen of RAW radar versus the small
ones. Now, of course, most airliners have mode S transponders.
That means they CAN'T TURN OFF THE ALTITUDE READOUT along with
the ground speed and aircraft ID like they used to be able to do
before Mode S. Of course Putin's plane is going to stand out
like a sore thumb versus a civilian airliner for reasons I won't
go into. 8)
My theory is that Samantha Power and her war loving neocon
friends are delivering a message (on behalf of the "DEFEND THE
DOLLAR AT ALL COSTS" fossil fuel/bank oligarchy) to ANYONE
planning to join the BRIC plan to **** can the almighty dollar
as the reserve currency.
As JD pointed out in so many words, ;D , I have a tremendous
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Question AG,
How could the MH-17 crew have known there was an aircraft
approaching from underneath unless ATC told them it was there?
I know that large aircraft have a radar in their nose to see out
into the dark and avoid objects in front of them. I know this
because I got to ride in the jump seat of an MD-80 that belonged
to the US GOV and that little radar screen was right in the
middle of their instrument panel. Also, what is the flight data
recorder going to tell the investigators other than everything
went to **** in a hurry?
My understanding of what you have said on this topic is that
Kiev ATC knew which aircraft was which and that the question now
is who authorized the attack and what was used? R-60 (I think
that is the AA-12) missile from an SU-25 or the ground based
SA-11? The fact that the MH-17 was rerouted and told to descend
to 31,000 feet suggests that there intention was to line them up
for a kill by the SU-25.
Now, if, we were all so lucky that identifiable missile parts
were recovered at the crash site, then one would have their
answer. As to who ordered it, the government in Kiev is on the
hook regardless as the "separatists" don't have any aircraft and
don't have a radar unit to support the SA-11 missile. Since
Moscow is off the hook, there are fewer people to blame...
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Okay, let's take it from the top.
1) Yeah a Malaysian Airliner with a bunch of people in it was
shot down. What do inquiring minds with a lick of sense do
first?
2) DUH, there is war going on in Ukraine, right? ::) RIGHT! And
the US fascist proxies that STARTED that war have ZERO
communication (i.e. command and control instructions) with DA
BOYZ in our "intelligence" neocon network, right? WRONG! Rest
assured that 24/7, both Russian and US ASSETS are TASKED with
FULL chain of command 24/7 consultation and weapons inventory
condition (position at x, y, z locations, etc. and READY OR NOT
for release as well as capabilities). Fog of war, my ass! This
is BASIC **** in a proxy war with the PRESENT SURVEILLANCE
capabilities of both (except ours are better than Russia's)
countries.
I had to make flip/strip chart maps a pilot strapped to his knee
for fighter and bomber pilots flying into a war zone (Viet Nam)
to deliver ordinance. I had to mark all the missile sites,
triple A (Anti Aircraft Artillery), troop concentrations as well
as radar signatures (the shape they form on SLIR, FLIR and or
plain radar) of populated/industrial targets for ease of id and
destruction.
I DID THIS from satellite and drone RECON (Yeah ,we HAD those in
Viet Nam - they were carried on B-52s, dropped and flown around
by RC, flown out and then recovered with lots of good photos
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/>I had to go over them on "Light" tables with stereo goggles
running two rolls of negatives. I could SEE the ground in 3D and
I had a neato little device that looks like a jewelers eye piece
with measurement line references inscribed on them. I could
measure anything down there within one foot (wing spans, fuel
tanks, missiles, artillery, buildings, etc.).
I could, since I knew the Lat Long and exact time the photos
were taken, measure a building shadow and know the height of
said building, bridge or whatever. WE KNEW from day to day WTF
was going on down there over 50 years ago!
We KNOW EXACTLY what is going on in places like the Ukraine with
FAR MORE PRECISION NOW, PERIOD. And our GOONS have a LOVE affair
with the fascists there going. They get MONEY from us to
DESTABILIZE the country to keep Russia on the defensive. That's
the overall SCORE. Anybody claiming otherwise is FULL OF ****.
Russia is no saint but they aren't deliberately fomenting a
revolution in MEXICO to install a government HOSTILE to the USA.
And **** anybody that claims the analogy doesn't hold. It does.
3) When a deliberate confrontation such as the Ukraine is
executed, mistakes are made, of course. But the overall plan is
run through thousands of computer simulations with variables
inputted along the way. The results that give the right
plausible deniability and further our predatory "destroy Russia
because they don't want to kiss our ass" policy are "gamed". ALL
THIS HAPPENS BEFORE the top dogs HERE even START to generate a
"colored" revolution in the Ukraine. Get it? YEARS ago this was
gamed. The airliner was PART of that "simulation". It's an
excellent flash point to get people to LOOK in the "right"
direction for the goal here. The computer said all the
destabilizing stuff would work. Now people blogging here can hem
an haw about what the agenda is (**** BRIC or not, **** Putin or
not, CNN credibility or not, fog of war or not, SAVE fossil
fueldom or not by wasting people form a nation leading in
renewable energy or not, Pay Back or not for the FOUNDER of
Malayasian Airlines having participated on the war crimes
tribunal that found the USA and Israeli TOP LEADERS guilty or a
combination of the above) but the downing of the airliner WAS
NOT A MISTAKE.
4) WHY? Because of the CONTEXT. This destabilization was
planned, as was the Syrian destabilization. The Syrian
destabilization was stymied. WHY? They asked the computer.
BECAUSE, the elements that WERE present in operations like 9/11
were ABSENT in Syria (destroyed airliner - works every time -
claims the computer...). Plausible deniability can be engendered
by emulating the Korean Airlines operation (except our goons
have to shoot it down this time rather than suckering Russia
into downing it - they won't fall for it because their radar is
far too accurate to mistake an airliner for a bomber or combat
aircraft, PERIOD).
5) SO, they watched as the Ukrainian operation started to peter
out. They asked for a GO on operation down a big bird to keep
the operation from being stymied like Syria. They provided a
list of airlines that flew the route and the top ones on the
**** list (Malaysian for BRIC support and War Crimes Tribunal -
A TWO-FER bit of payback!).
6) The top dogs made a list ditch effort to stop the new
currency effort with a few veiled threats made privately to
Putin. Putin gave them the finger. The operation was approved.
The rest is history.
7) Putin knows the score. He does not want WWIII. WE are the
crazy uncle here, not Russia. WE WANT WWIII, no matter the
COST! Don't believe me? Reagan said, after watching the movie
"The Day After" that the military assured him we could win the
war with only 150 million American casualties. He wrote in his
diary that "Those people are CRAZY". GUESS WHO "those people "
WERE/ARE? Yep, their representatives are STILL THERE.
8) Now I don't care if you think our country is rational and
reasonable. You are just plain wrong. So, how could these
"crazies" be so calculating, analytical and careful to do this
"flawless" demonizing of Russia for allegedly downing a Malaysia
Airliner? Doesn't a crazy psycho make mistakes in the "fog" of
war? Actually, they don't. WHY? because they PLAN this ****.
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9) It will get worse after a brief pause to see how many more
cowards they have gotten to tow the fossil fuel/bank oligarchy
running the USA and SOME of Europe. The target is RUSSIA BECAUSE
they are HURTING the DOLLAR. That is not going to change any
time soon. That is the correct context. Several years into the
future, thousands of scenarios are IN THE CAN, including nuclear
winter. Our goons WILL NOT accept the defeat that comes with a
multi-polar, renewable energy, more democratic world with no mad
dog USA ****ting wherever and whenever we like. That ends my
rant on context. Now for the Down a Big Bird Operation
hypothesis (I hope this isn't a "Three Days of the Condor" thing
because this may be my last post if I got it exactly right...).
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10) CAS is Collision Avoidance Radar. All airliners have it.
Also all air traffic control systems have a program called
Conflict Alert. It blinks the data blocks of two targets that
will have less than minimum separation standards with AMPLE TIME
(a few minutes or so) for the air traffic controller to warn at
least one of the aircraft. On board the aircraft CAS goes off
and collision avoidance instructions are shouted at the crew.
BUT, an airliner cannot escape a missile. The aircraft has just
nose radar BUT it has a data link to atc radar and CAN receive
conflict alert data to activate CAS (aircraft overtaking or in
conflict due to projected crossing trajectories by heading or
altitude).
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11) Missile targeting: There are several ways to do this. When a
missile is released, it mostly does its own thing BECAUSE it
flies so fast that the delay in reaction from an RC signal could
cause a flight path error resulting in a miss.
12) The heat seeking capability (a no brainer for a HUGE IR
signal like Airliner engines) is NOT exclusive in flight path
targeting. An on board computer also has trajectory computation
of the target. The target is LOCKED or it isn't. If it's NOT
LOCKED, the missile does not explode. Yes, they have proximity
destruction mechanisms that explode the missile before it hits.
The reason for that is that missiles are delicate devices and
they might NOT explode if the hit the target before they
explode.
The downing of the airliner was NO MISTAKE.
The air traffic controllers SAW IT HAPPEN with conflict alert
going off a minute or so before it happened. The new vector
given to the flight could have been a "vector for traffic: 12:00
o'clock altitude unknown" (a LIE). ATC is COMPLICIT here JUST AS
IT WAS on 9/11. The pilot would turn to the new heading - he has
no choice unless he claims the new heading will send him into
bad weather and asks for another heading.
UPDATE: I checked the flight path on MH17 and he MUST have been
vectored for some other reason tha "traffic" because it's a
LARGE deviation and a constant one. If they told him it was for
weather and he didn't see it on his radar, they would have
difficulties getting him to obey. The pilot knew damned good
and well where the war is going on and would question it. SO,
the best way to get him to "deviate" is to calim CAT (clear air
turbulence reports) on is planned rout. You can't see that on
radar and it CAN tear an airplaner apart so the pilot WOULD
comply. Those atc tapes make the atc person look like he was
just doing his job, rather than setting up the bird for a
plausible deniability kill operation.
The Crew had a warning, (NOT when the fighter was beneath them
as long as the trajectory of the fighter was not angled at the
big bird - but the instant the fighter locked on to the big
bird, the CAS went off) and MIGHT have said something BUT they
had only seconds to react because from lock on to missile launch
to impact at a few kilometers is a few seconds.
All this is OBVIOUS **** that the press WIL NOT GO INTO and
talks about ridiculous idiodic stuff like the paint job of
Putin's plane versus Malaysia Airlines. GOOD GRIEF! Eyesight
doesn't have **** to do with downing an airliner at 33,000 feet!
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13) The Flight Data Recording on the aircraft is NOT the
important one. It will have a CAS or a conflict alert warning
but may not have the id or trajectory of the object in conflict.
The ATC facility tape of the PVD (plan view display with
digitized data blocks of all the aircraft) which is saved for
two weeks NORMALLY is where the true evidence is.
Consequently, the Ukranianis have a nice adulterated copy. BUT,
the goons that ran this operation could not keep several other
nations (like Russia, China and Malaysiai) that routinely
monitor the ATC digitized feed from having the whole enchilada.
Why doesn't Putin put it all out there? LOL! That's not how this
"game" is played. Most people here KNOW that. Our news media
KNOWS that. That's why they ask that dumb ****ing, innocent
sounding question! Patience is, as you can see, not my strong
forte. There is a lot of very clever duplicity being propagated
on the downing of this Big Bird. ANYBODY that claims there isn't
is INSTANTLY suspect of pushing propaganda, in my view.
You have just heard an EXPERT opinion by a former Intelligence
Operations Specialist and Air Traffic Controller. You are free
to believe it or not. Still, most people won't believe it unless
it's written in the New York Times or they watch it on CNN. Only
puny secrets need protection; big secrets are protected by
public incredulity. I know how this works. God help us.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2018, 10:27 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This is a repost form the summer of 2014.
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[center] "Russia" posts satellite video of moment the Ukrainian
BUK-M1 is launched[/center]
The above is NOT from the Russian Government. It is
disinformation. The IR signature of the fields and the rocket
launch are from some other place with no relation to MH17. I've
studied it. My AFSC (Air force Specialty Code) was a DUAL AFSC
(Intelligence Operations Specialist/Photo interpreter). I was
even told I could get a job with (GASP!) an Oil company checking
pipeline photos for ruptures. I'm glad I didn't get to work with
MKing! ;D
I can read terrain expertly although this video was not that
hard to check against the last 12 miles of MH17. It does not
Match! But this disinfo video is QUITE CLEVER. Notice how they
show a missle launch going WEST to EAST with absolutely NO
reference to ACTUAL true north. The idea is for you to ASS-U-ME
that true north is the top of the video. It's BS but pretty
nifty BS. LOL! The aircraft WAS flying (Heading 118) east-
southeast when it was downed but the video, absent orientation,
date and Lat Long, would have been of some value IF the terrain
and building pattern matched somewhere along the last 12 miles
or so of MH17's flight. No dice.
Nevertheless, I'm thankful to Surly for posting that video
because the comments section has some very valuable (and
truthful because it can be corroborated) information.
So here is what the last 12 miles of MH17 look like and the
debris field of the crash with LAT LONG information and a close
up. No, you still can't make out aircraft parts specifically but
this is where all those pictures of parts and bpdies are coming
from so I accept it as accurate.
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Palloy,
You asked why won't Putin just "put it all out there". As you
said before, Putin has the trump cards. Yes, I realize this is a
VERY deadly game but if you have the best cards, you want to
play them at the right moment. The accurate information will be
used to KEEP countries from being intimidated by the brutal
destruction of MH17 privately. You know that no matter what
Russia puts out there publicly, if THEY say it, our f**king
media will claim night is day and day is night until the cows
come home.
I learned from Knarf that in 1983 we came a hair's breath from
all out nuclear war. Only a smart missile launch control officer
from Russia refused to launch with the launch signal blaring,
not once, but Twice! There's a video on it out there that shows
how crazy things get when someone is (US) deliberately
escalating tensions in the service of the almighty US dollar.
Over 200 million PEOPLE were going to DIE and it's taken DECADES
for people like me to find out about it. And I'm SURE most
people STILL don't know about it. Those successful cover-ups of
close calls is precisely what gave the bastards that ran 9/11
the confidence to pull that bit of murdering crap off!
But don't worry, the truth is NOT going to be buried like it was
on 9/11.
POSSIBLE 2016 NUCLEAR WAR TO SAVE THE DOLLAR, DIRTY ENERGY, STOP
GLOBAL WARMING and KILL OFF THE "EXCESS" POPULATION TOO!
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The barbaric BS that is probably IN THE CAN (if the corporate
bastards don't get what they want) planned for a possible 2016
nuclear attack and a "brief" nuclear winter to end global
warming, ANY resistance to dirty energy or US global hegemony as
well as the elimination of millions of "useless eaters" in the
industrialized world population (minus the one percent, OF
COURSE
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that the crazies must be IGNORED for the survival of mankind.
Yeah, the crazies have to be imprisoned too. But for now, the
job is to undermine the mendacity of our media that kowtows to
corporate, conscience free, 'kill anybody in the way of the
modern feudalists' GOONS disguised as "capitalists".
They will lose. However, if they unleash nuclear war thinking
stupidly that they can limit it, the term NBL (Nature Bats Last)
will take a back seat to the ultimate insanity of NbcBL (NUCLEAR
BAT s h i t CRAZIES BATTED LAST). God help us.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2018, 10:30 pm
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Cartoon: Animal Nuz #209 - Visible From Space Edition
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2018, 10:33 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This is a repost form the summer of 2014.
Here's a VERY INTERESTING bit of MH370 information that gives
MORE CONTEXT to MH17. ;)
[quote]Seems there are more 'Plans' for All of We The People of
Planet Earth.
I give you Flight 370.
Flight 370 'vanished' with 227 passengers and 12 crew.
Of the passengers, 20 intel people from throughout the world
who were the foremost electronic
warfare experts, were on board.
Flight 370 received a 'highly suspicious cargo, traced to the
Indian Ocean, from the US Flagged
container ship, MV Maersk.
The US Seals whom were assigned to protect it, Mark Kennedy and
Jeff Reynolds, were found
to be dead. They were employed by the Virginia Beach secret
security firm, Trident Group.
The cargo aboard Flight 370 was Atomic or Biological materials,
diverted by the US Navy to the
secret air base, Diego Garcia.
Flight 370 diversion occurred during the time that 'all' of the
Spratly Island communications operated by China Mobile were
'automatically' jammed.
The US Navy was able to divert Flight 370 to its Diego Garcia
Base because ER is equipped with a
'fly by wire' FBD system that replaces the conventional manual
flight controls of an aircraft with 'electronic interface',
allowing it to be 'controlled' like any Drone style aircraft.
Most think of this as 'remote control'.
American mainstream media has yet to report or question, let
alone, Demand 'disclosure'.
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Consider THIS:
Malaysia Airlines ALSO lost contact with MH17. IF you can usurp
the fly by wire computer circuitry of an airliner so it flies
like a drone (WE KNOW THAT CAN BE DONE!), you can also disable
AICARS (the data link with the company from the flight) by
remote control.
NOW, if you ARE NOT HIJACKING A PLANE, how do you keep the crew
from KNOWING they are off course and taking measures to OVERRIDE
the remote control (yes, that certainly CAN be done!)?
By FAKING the map display (FEEDING IT ALTERED LAT LONGS) on the
aircraft! That is child's play if you have fly by wire control
and AICARS jamming. But there's more. An airliner has MORE than
one radio transmitter as well as the capability of transmitting
an ELT (emergency locator transmitter) signal. The crew did not
do that.
The terrain below the normal route and the altered route is not
that different to human eyesight so the goons might have been
able to fool the pilots that only malfunction was AICARS and
everything else was hunky jake. After all, the crew reasoned, we
ARE talking with ATC so we are in GOOD HANDS, aren't WE?
👀
But there is an upside to this. There is NO WAY IN HELL that an
airline crew will get fooled anymore. They will have to KILL the
crew during the flight to get a repeat of this sneaky scenario.
Yeah, the horses have left the barn, so to speak. Now the
airlines have HAD IT with governments and ATC. The TRUST is
GONE. For the next generation (if we last that long) the byword
will be PORTABLE redundant communication AND even a backup
navigation laptop computer capable of overriding on board
computer systems the pilots CARRY with them so no matter what
kind of computer sabotage is done to the aircraft, the saboteur
will NOT be able to make the plane go where they want to go
QUIETLY.
IOW, the upside is that the GOONS won't be downing airliners for
DECADES unless they are doing it in an all out war where
plausible deniability is unnecessary. Of course the old "RC
explosives on board" will remain as an option "on the table".
Have a nice day.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 4:25 pm
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[quote author=AGelbert link=topic=166.msg1604#msg1604
date=1406421542]
Conversation with a Buddhist.
Ka said[quote] I think it likely that the remaining hegemons
will say -- time to withdraw to the Western Hemisphere (except
maybe keep the sea lanes open to Nigerian and Angolan oil). If
so, then I think the West has better long-term prospects than
the East.[/quote]
I hope you are right. But the MO of the goons (with a CONSISTENT
historical track record) in charge that you are totally ignoring
makes your wish look more like a prayer than a serious
possibility.
THE MO of the neocon has a LONG history. As a scholar, you
probably know it better than I do but you JUST DO NOT WANT TO GO
THERE. It's time you did.
Let me refresh your memory on how this works:
Richard Nixon was the first (in our country - as far as I know)
to espouse the policy of acting super belligerent and crazy as a
foreign policy tactic. The purpose is to intimidate the other
nation into acting "reasonable" and acceding to our predatory
corporate demands RATHER THAN BEING DESTROYED. You need to
convince the other nation that you will gladly go beyond the
brink even if your economy will be hampered by it! This BULLY
policy has gotten more polished but it's still the same basic
MO. Look up some quotes from the Republican speaker of the
house (Gingrich). He said NEVER back down. When an opponent
attempts to negotiate a settlement agreeable to both, DOUBLE
DOWN on the threats. Never admit fault. Never go on the
defensive. Always remain on the offensive. THAT is the MO that
you want to pretend does not DOMINATE US foreign policy.
The problem with that type of MO is that it leads to WAR if the
other party does not back down. It has worked BECAUSE it has
been used on WEAK countries for the past few decades. If you
think Russia is going to back down here, you just do not
understand the situation.
Russia, by the way, STILL has complete underground cities and an
extensive plan to survive (as well as possible under the
circumstances - they KNOW how to grow food in sealed areas -
they did a multiyear study to simulate a closed food system on
mars) a full scale nuclear attack. Have you forgotten that?
The people doing this in our country have LOST IT. They aren't
PRETENDING to be crazy. They have GONE CRAZY! It's called
megalomania born of too many monstrous "successes" like Iraq and
9/11.
It happened in Germany before WWII. We are there. Only some
smart people that can counter them INSIDE our government will
avoid WWIII. The neocons BELIEVE, like the crazies Reagan spoke
about in the 1980s (you've got to be pretty crazy to be to the
right of Reagan!) that "we" can win a nuclear war. They will NOT
EVER accept a multi-polar world. That's the reality. We are all
in danger as long as they are commanding our government
sponsored terrorism.
All that said, I envy your ability to pretend all this is an
illusion. That means your stress hormones are probably lower
than mine and you will never have heart disease from stress.
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I wish it was an illusion. I don't think so. I remember how you
claimed Fossil fuels had NOT gamed the playing field against
renewable energy in the 1980s as if dirty energy actually WON
the cost competition in those days. I gave you all sorts of
circumstantial evidence but since it wasn't in the New York
Times, I guess you remained unconvinced.
Watch this two minute tape. Accept EVERYTHING on it as true. If
you don't, then watch the entire video the clip comes from and
you WILL see the evidence for yourself. You were wrong to think
fossil fueldom did not screw us back then and continues to screw
us now. These people are not stupid; they are evil. But I agree
that if this is all an illusion, it does not really matter...
Fossil Fuel Government 2 minute Video Clip, "The Age of Stupid":
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THIS is not an illusion:
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 4:56 pm
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date=1406443534]
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The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet
gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the
catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking
the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 5:01 pm
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date=1406595838]
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The neocon bastards that have used our government to do this
HORROR have no humanity whatsoever. Prison is too good for these
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 5:08 pm
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[quote author=AGelbert link=topic=166.msg1616#msg1616
date=1406603472]
This is from a Malaysian airlines A380, not a B777-200ER, but it
is a fitting memorial to those on that MH17 ill fated flight.
Like all of us on this planet hurtling though uncharted space to
who knows what end, we go on until we can't. :(
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[center][font=times new roman]Fellow humans of MH17,
R.I.P.[/font][/center]
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I wonder, do the murderers of innocents like those in the
aircraft above ever have second thoughts about killing for power
and profit? It seems they don't. [img
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