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Compressed Air Powered Transportation and Tools
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 12, 2018, 4:26 pm
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--- Quote from: Eddie link ---
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> [quote author=azozeo link=topic=11178.msg155771#msg155771
date=1528832180]
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> For me it all started with this hard to explain streetcar
setup, where a streetcar was being pulled by a horse. This is
one of those instances where an official explanation was running
into a sharp contradiction with common sense. I was always
wondering why people would go through the hurdles of developing,
producing and installing a whole rail system to just use it in a
horsecar combination. This of course, had to include the
development, and production of the actual car. Just like I
mentioned, the rig became known as a horsecar.
>
> Wikipedia contains its own explanation of this horsecar
occurrence, The horse-drawn tram (horsecar) was an early form
of public rail transport that developed out of industrial
haulage routes that had long been in existence, and from the
omnibus routes that first ran on public streets in the 1820s,
using the newly improved iron or steel rail or tramway.
>
> The above sort of gibberish language and bogus explanation
could never sit well with me. Common sense was suggesting that a
normal person would never go the length required to produce the
entire rail system to just pull cars with horses. Indeed, none
of us would think that the below provided setups were intended
to be used as presented.
>
> click on link for the rest...
>
HTML https://www.stolenhistory.org/threads/19th-century-compressed-air-cars-and-street-cars-gone-and-forgotten.96/.
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The Amish power their machine shops and ceiling fans with
compressed air. It's a way to harness wind power, for them.
I've never been sure why it's okay with God to use compressed
air but not electricity. Maybe because its a DIY tech that
doesn't require an "outside" power grid, so they aren't tied to
BAU, which seems to be a big deal for the Amish.
The ceiling fans are available for sale online , but they are
not cheap.
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Actually, the Amish have no problem with using electricity, as
long as they harvest it themselves. and don't connect with the
"culture undermining" grid.
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> 19 Oct 2015
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> The Amish Are Going Solar?
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> By Jenny Lou Bement | Green Energy
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> Have you seen solar panels on rooftops in Amish country?
According to NPR, the Amish population in Ohio is steadily
adding solar power technology to their homes. In fact, it
reports that 80% of the Amish in Holmes County, Ohio, are
embracing this renewable energy. Although a handful of families
refuse to take advantage of solar electricity, even some of the
more orthodox Amish are excited about the incorporation of solar
power. At first glance, it seems strange but, believe it or not,
it makes sense.
>
> If there's a community that has held tight to its traditions,
it's the Amish. With their own language, way of life and
near-absolute separation from mainstream culture, or "English"
as they call it, the Amish are famously known for their strong
ability to live off the fruits of their labor rather than
technology. In general, they live without cars, television or
electricity but with advancements in energy generation, some of
this is changing. Like many eco-conscious, tech-savvy folks
across the world, the Amish are reaping the benefits of solar
energy.
>
> Why the Amish are embracing solar
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> One reason why solar is becoming increasingly popular among
Amish communities is the fire risk of their traditional lighting
methods such as kerosene lamps and candles especially for the
elderly and younger members of their communities. It also gives
their communities the ability to have cheaper, cleaner
electricity with the perk of remaining off the grid. In a
nutshell, solar is a win-win for the Amish they remain off the
grid, preserving their culture while reaping the benefits of
clean renewable energy when needed.
>
> The Amish use electricity?
>
> It's not that the Amish aren't allowed to use electricity,
it's that they believe too much reliance on electricity or
access to public power grids will tie them too closely to the
rest of the world and hurt their well-preserved culture. It's
not necessarily against their beliefs to have power. Before
solar panels became readily available, the Amish used gasoline
or diesel generators to produce their own electricity for a
handful of luxuries lighting and, in some cases, household
appliances such as washing machines.
>
> The Amish don't believe electricity is bad; they believe
having ready access to it will create temptation that can lead
to television and other electrical luxuries that could hurt
their values. Their culture values hard work and while they may
appreciate appliances and tools that can make their jobs easier,
the general consensus in their community is if they have
complete access to these technologies, it will compromise their
children's work ethic and could lead to a tarnished version of
their way of life over generations. With solar, there's less
risk of diminished values and mainstream culture, just as with
generators. The big difference is it's better for the world
and 100% renewable.
>
>
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> I understand their worry that electricity can lead to
television. Definitely a bad outcome there, and I'm not being
the least bit tongue-in-cheek.
>
> I hope they don't let that happen. Solar PV is fairly new. I
wondered if they would embrace it. They've been using compressed
air for a long, long time, and no one else seems to use it.
>
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The French came up with a compressed air (very small) car about
a decade ago.
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[center]A car that runs on air 515,130 views mrgoding
Published on Apr 22, 2008[/center]
They claimed it would be cheap and easy to fuel renewably with
electric compressors powered by renewable energy sourced (PV
and/or wind) electricity.
Tata motors is licensed to build it, but apparently they haven't
decided to build it.
Also, don't forget that every mechanic out there, who has a shop
and changes tires routinely, uses compressed air powered tools.
Compressed air power has its niche in civilization. I don't
think it will ever go away, simply because it is so cheap to
store energy in the form of compressed air for immediate, on
demand use, even if compressed air cars never become part of the
transportation picture.
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Re: Compressed Air Powered Transportation and Tools
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 12, 2018, 4:58 pm
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The French came up with a compressed air (very small) car about
a decade ago.
HTML https://youtu.be/uRpxhlX4Ga0
HTML https://youtu.be/uRpxhlX4Ga0
[center]A car that runs on air 515,130 views mrgoding
Published on Apr 22, 2008[/center]
They claimed it would be cheap and easy to fuel renewably with
electric compressors powered by renewable energy sourced (PV
and/or wind) electricity.
Tata motors is licensed to build it, but apparently they haven't
decided to build it.
Also, don't forget that every mechanic out there, who has a shop
and changes tires routinely, uses compressed air powered tools.
Compressed air power has its niche in civilization. I don't
think it will ever go away, simply because it is so cheap to
store energy in the form of compressed air for immediate, on
demand use, even if compressed air cars never become part of the
transportation picture.
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> Interesting.
>
> I have a big compressor, but my wife made me take it out of
the garage because it was really noisy. It's in storage. I have
a few air tools, from the days when I thought I wanted to learn
to paint cars. More recently, all the power tool makers have
come out with alternatives to air tools. I have an electric
impact wrench, for instance. When I was young there were no
electric impact wrenches, or at least I never saw one.
>
> The high speed air turbine is still my default dental drill
(handpiece, we call it), but they have good electrics on that
too now, which some people prefer.
>
> The Amish use windmills to compress air, which is kinda cool.
>
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Agreed.
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And that sound of that high speed dental drill is something no
person who has ever been to the dentist can ever forget! ;D
I've often wondered why compressors are so noisy. Sure, the
physics involves all the vibration frequencies that are blasted
in every direction from air that don't wanna be compressed, so
to speak, but there is a sneaky way to get around that. I know
they use that with mufflers. As you know, if you can get two
sound wave frequencies to interlace a certain way, they cancel
each other out. If they can do it with car mufflers, why not
with compressors? If you put your thinking cap on, I'll bet you
can make your noisy compressor purr like a kitty so your wife
won't ban you from using it.
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Re: Compressed Air Powered Transportation and Tools
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 12, 2018, 5:12 pm
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> [quote author=Eddie link=topic=11178.msg155796#msg155796
date=1528838932]
> Interesting.
>
> I have a big compressor, but my wife made me take it out of
the garage because it was really noisy. It's in storage. I have
a few air tools, from the days when I thought I wanted to learn
to paint cars. More recently, all the power tool makers have
come out with alternatives to air tools. I have an electric
impact wrench, for instance. When I was young there were no
electric impact wrenches, or at least I never saw one.
>
> The high speed air turbine is still my default dental drill
(handpiece, we call it), but they have good electrics on that
too now, which some people prefer.
>
> The Amish use windmills to compress air, which is kinda cool.
>
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Agreed.
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And that sound of that high speed dental drill is something no
person who has ever been to the dentist can ever forget! ;D
I've often wondered why compressors are so noisy. Sure, the
physics involves all the vibration frequencies that are blasted
in every direction from air that don't wanna be compressed, so
to speak, but there is a sneaky way to get around that. I know
they use that with mufflers. As you know, if you can get two
sound wave frequencies to interlace a certain way, they cancel
each other out. If they can do it with car mufflers, why not
with compressors? If you put your thinking cap on, I'll bet you
can make your noisy compressor purr like a kitty so your wife
won't ban you from using it.
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HEY! This guy already posted the MUFFLER sound wave interference
pattern solution! ;D
Check it out!
[center]Easy Trick to Make Your Air Compressor Quieter[/center]
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Arnold's Design
Published on Oct 11, 2017
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Here I show you a mod to make your air compressor a few decibels
quieter. I reduced the noise by 4 decibels. What's left is
mostly valve noise, and that noise can only be reduced by
putting a wall between me and the compressor. This technique
will work for any compressor, such as Eaton, Polar Air,
Ingersoll Rand, Campbell Hausfeld, Quincy, etc. This technique
will not affect your cfm.
#Post#: 9884--------------------------------------------------
Re: Compressed Air Powered Transportation and Tools
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 12, 2018, 5:31 pm
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Here's another sound reducing method. This is the old
"Dissimilar Materials" sound proofing technique with many
applications. He also forces the sound to make two 90 degree
turns. This quiets the compressor down much more. I suspect he
is creating a partial sound destrucitve interference pattern
with these forced turns.
[center]5x quieter :o generator or compressor sound reduction
quiet box[/center]
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> Usefulgizmos
>
> Published on Jan 22, 2018
>
> For plans, click "Show More" below. --- Make your generator or
air compressor 5x quieter using a box that can be disassembled
and stored. I also show the exhaust system that prevents carbon
monoxide poisoning. I show a video of my 3500 watt generator
running alone, and while it continues to run I assemble a quiet
box that I built, around it. The video shows the audio waveform
of the generator's sound decreasing as the box is assembled, and
my video editor's "db full scale" meter is also shown in
real-time. Finally I show the generator running alone and
compare it to the generator running in the quiet box in 3 second
bursts to allow you to hear the before and after difference.
>
> I also show the exhaust system that vents the generator's
exhaust high up above the roof to insure that carbon monoxide
will not get into the house no matter which direction the wind
blows. Because of this, the generator can be run in our carport
out of the rain. An additional benefit is that the exhaust
system helps with quieting the generator without adding a
secondary muffler, by routing the "exhaust sound" above the
roof. Two benefits for the price of one.
>
> Finally I show how the panels of the disassembled quiet box
can be arranged for storage in the bottom of a small clothes
closet -or- in a small footprint configuration for storage in an
even smaller footprint space.
>
> UPDATE:
> I was not planning to do this but because of requests to buy
plans for my quiet box, I put a package together that consists
of plans and step-by-step instructions for building my quiet box
and both sound baffles. Also included are a video, plans for 2
larger size quiet boxes, and the Sketchup files for my quiet box
and baffles. If interested with no obligation to purchase, send
a request for details to usefulgizmos@gmail.com. If not
interested, please just ignore this update. Thank you.
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