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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: December 22, 2017, 7:54 pm
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To those Mammon worshipping relatives who colluded and conspired
for several years, with malice aforethought, to methodically
defraud me of the inheritance I was due from my parents:
--- Quote ---
> Proverbs 18:19 A brother wronged is more unyielding than a
fortified city; disputes are like the barred gates of a citadel.
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> Pulpit Commentary
>
> Verse 19. - A brother offended is harder to be won than a
strong city. Something must be supplied on which the comparative
notion min, "than," depends. So we may understand "resists
more," or something similar. A brother or a once close friend,
when injured or deceived, becomes a potent and irreconcilable
enemy. The idea of the preceding verses is carried on, and the
primary thought is still concerning lawsuits and matters brought
before a judge. This is shown in the second clause by the use of
the word "contentions" (midyanim). And their contentions are
like the bars of a castle. They close the door against
reconciliation, shut the heart against all feeling of
tenderness. True it is,
Ξαλεποὶ
πόλεμοι
ἀδελφῶν (Eurip., 'Fragm.').
And again, 'Iph. Aul.,' 376 -
>
> Δεινὸν
κασιγήτοισι
γίγνεσθαι
λόγους
> Μάχας θ
ὅταν ποτ
ἐμπέσωσιν
εἰς ἔριν. Aristotle also
writes thus ('De Republ.,' 7:7): "If men receive no return from
those to whom they have shown kindness, they deem themselves,
not only defrauded of due gratitude, but actually injured.
Whence it is said, 'Bitter are the quarrels of friends;' and,
'Those who love beyond measure also hate beyond measure.'" An
English maxim gloomily decides, "Friendship once injured is
forever lost." Pliny ('Hist. Nat.,' 37:4), "Ut adamas, si frangi
contingat malleis, in minutissimas dissidit crustas, adeo ut vix
oculis cerni queant: ita arctissima necessitudo, si quando
contingat dirimi, in summam vertitur simultatem, et ex
arctissimis foederibus, si semel rumpantur, maxima nascuntur
dissidia." Ecclus. 6:9, "There is a friend, who being turned to
enmity will also discover thy disgraceful strife," i.e. will
disclose the quarrel which according to his representation will
redound to thy discredit. The last clause is rendered in the
Vulgate. Et judicia quasi vectes urbium; where judicia means
"lawsuits," legal disputes; these bar out friendship.
--- End Quote ---
For the pseudo-Christian Mammon worshippers, it is oh, so
convenient, to brazenly claim the brother they perversely harmed
economically, while defaming him as a matter of empathy deficit
disordered routine, should forgive them and move on because
that's what a "Christian" must do.
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But, but, what about the Lord's Prayer and the request to have
our trespasses forgiven, as we forgive those who trespass
against us? Isn't that a conditional statement? Doesn't that
mean our trespasses will not be forgiven unless we forgive any
and all trespasses against us?
Nope. We are not to be bitter and we are not to take revenge,
but we certainly are not to pretend the offense did not occur.
The "forgive and forget" notion is an even greater trespass
because, unconditional forgiveness (i.e. no repercussions for
the trespass) encourages MORE of the original trespass!
The forgiving we engage in with the Lord's prayer is an act of
acceptance that God is a Just Judge and has the full picture on
'who did what' that we will never be privy to in this life.
This does not mean we give the "benefit of the doubt" to a
blatant trespass. If that was true, then Jesus would NOT have
said what He quite clearly said in Matthew 18:17 (see below) and
also in the instructions given to his Apostles (Luke 9:5) when
they were refused friendly hospitality (There are several other
Scriptures on this issue, but I will limit myself to just the
two dicussed here).
--- Quote ---
> Luke 9:5 (KJV)
> 5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that
city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony
against them.
--- End Quote ---
The Mammon worshippers immediately quote scripture about "Do not
judge, lest ye be judged". This a deliberate Orwellian
distortion of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.
To begin with, the ones, in my case, who DID the sinful JUDGING
are the ones who sinned against their brother by entering into a
conspiracy to defraud their brother of his inheritance with the
help of corrupt Judges, Banking officials and Court auction and
"mediation" (see Orwell) officials. They DECIDED (with the
cooperation of my father) that I was not "worthy" of the
inheritance. IOW, they JUDGED me, and knowing the law was on my
side, deliberately proceeded, once their decision (i.e. cheap
rationalization) to defraud me was agreed on, to game the Legal
system to achieve their goal.
When I learned of this attempt to defraud me, I simply pointed
out to the Court (and later on to the FBI) that this was a crime
of financial fraud. I did not "judge" anybody by stating the
truth; I did what any Christian is obligated to do when he
learns of a fraud; defend the truth and expose the lie.
I had warned my family members, over the phone, on more than one
occasion, NOT to engage in fraud against my person. They, of
course, said they would never do anything like that but they
could "not control" one of my brothers and my "father". That was
a lie when they said it and I told them so. They stopped direct
communication except for occasional threats to my person (My
oldest sister said that the brother running the inheritance
"operation" said there were "too many" heirs in a very strange
tone of voice over the phone in a conference call) and to my
economic well being (My oldest sister mendaciously claimed I
would have to pay ALL the legal fees if they were "forced" to
sue me), followed shortly thereafter (because I did not bend to
their ex-curia demands) by the legal documents.
Jesus Christ was quite clear about that. He said that IF a
brother sins against you, you are to tell them about it and ask
them to repent. IF said brother or sister REFUSES to repent, or
claims they do "repent" without making absolutely any effort to
make restitution (at LEAST 2 fold for the injury), then you are
to no longer associate with them, PERIOD.
--- Quote ---
> Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the
church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat
them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
--- End Quote ---
God will NOT forgive sin if there is no honest attempt at making
RESTITUTION. WHY? Because there is no genuine repentence if
there is no restitution.
So please do not bother to send me Christmas Cards claiming you
"miss" your kid brother or you are "praying that you will see me
soon".
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I may be a poor old washed up failure economically, but I am
still a Christian and, consequently, cannot countenance
hypocrisy.
Beyond these occasional posts, that I have no idea whether
anyone in my family reads, which I post so others may learn of
my experiences, direct communication with my brothers and
sisters is not going to happen. My father died at the ripe old
age of 96 back in 2008. One of the ringleaders of the fraud
tried repeatedly to get me to sue my father. I refused. But it
didn't matter. The brother ringleader just wanted to turn my
father totally against me. That was accomplished when I told the
truth in motions presented (filed) to the the court, in defense
of the truth, when my father and my siblings (all 6 of them)
sued me.
Of course I am not going to be bitter about having experienced
this legal travesty at the hand of my brothers and sisters. They
are the ones in the hot seat, not me. They are the ones who
refuse to repent. They are the ones who will have to explain why
the poorest member of their family was not worthy of being
treated equally by them and why they, particularly the ones
among them that call themselves "Christians", entered into a
criminal conspiracy in which they willingly agreed to be
accesories to the crime of financial fraud.
As far as the world is concerned, they got away with it. The FBI
thanked me for the info and I haven't heard from them since
(years have passed). The Bank Corrupted Court sided with them
and the fake mediation and the fake foreclosure and the fake
auction took place just as they had planned it from the start.
May God have mercy on my corrupt relatives. I hope they all
manage to genuinely repent (i.e. make at least 2 fold
restitution) of their trespass against God (all trespasses
against people are, in the final analysis, against God) before
they leave this valley of tears. Because, if they don't, the
Holy Scriptures make it quite clear that God won't cut them any
slack whatsoever.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: May 10, 2018, 5:01 pm
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 6, 2018, 7:58 pm
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Eddie said:
--- Quote ---
> America doesn't have poor people. We have people who are
waiting on the Lotto to make them rich.
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I resemble that remark.
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/>I may have a small pension that keeps my wife and I just above
the poverty level in our 980 sq.' manufactured home, being
reasonably independent and decently clothed and fed due to the
frugality my wife and I practice, but nobody would call us
middlle class or above. Yes, that isn't the "poor" destitution
that often motivates people to go out and steal out of
desperation, but it is still technically "poor".
I ain't waitin' fer da lotto. We don't even play it.
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/>We are not the only poor Americans with principles, Eddie.
This is my guiding principle/prayer:
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> Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I
die:
>
> Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty
nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
>
> Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or
lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
- Proverbs 30: 7-9
--- End Quote ---
We are poor but we are not greedy.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 6, 2018, 9:56 pm
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>
> [quote author=agelbert link=topic=1702.msg155260#msg155260
date=1528332804]
> Eddie said:[quote] America doesn't have poor people. We have
people who are waiting on the Lotto to make them rich.
--- End Quote ---
I resemble that remark.
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/>I may have a small pension that keeps my wife and I just above
the poverty level in our 980 sq.' manufactured home, being
reasonably independent and decently clothed and fed due to the
frugality my wife and I practice, but nobody would call us
middlle class or above. Yes, that isn't the "poor" destitution
that often motivates people to go out and steal out of
desperation, but it is still technically "poor".
I ain't waitin' fer da lotto.
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/>We don't even play it. We are not the only poor Americans with
principles, Eddie.
This is my guiding principle/prayer:
--- Quote ---
> Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I
die:
>
> Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty
nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
>
> Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or
lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
- Proverbs 30: 7-9
--- End Quote ---
We are poor but we are not greedy.
[/quote]
No, you're not greedy. You too, are being noble. Well done.
I was referring to the vast numbers of anonymous other people
out there who outnumber you a zillion to one, who ARE. They're
out there.
Not all, no. Certainly not. Lots of frugal good people who are
that way for ethical reasons.. But not big numbers in the
overall scheme of things.
[/quote]
True, those of us who take morality seriously are always pretty
much in the minority. Thanks for the compliment, but I prefer to
label my behavior as just being practical. As somebody said in
an old movie, "A man's gotta know his own limitations." I have
learned mine pretty well. ;)
I really do believe that money above a certain threshold is
counterproductive to happiness, makes one overly territorial of
the stuff one accumulates (i.e. loves them more than friends or
family = idolatry) and leads to unrestrained greed =
unhappiness.
IOW, it's not just a religious thing for me. I've seen enough
people in my family become morally depraved after becoming stock
market millionaires to accept the very real possibility that I
would have been morally ruined too. There, but for the grace of
God, go I.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 13, 2018, 1:47 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: Who was King Lemuel's Mother? ??? Nobody knows,
but her advice is still wrongly ignored.
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/>The writer here covers it pretty well. However, I disagree
that
everyone who self-medicates becomes an addict. Most people who
self-medicate do not. It is Biblically OKAY to self-medicate to
mitigate the pain of sickness and/or poverty. It is just wrong
to condemn everyone who self-medicates. Too many Christians have
a stuffed shirt, overly judgemental, attitude towards drinking.
There is NO Biblical basis for claiming Christians should not
drink fermented beverages. The Biblical admonition, in several
places in Scipture, is to avoid getting drunk, not to abstain
totally from drinking.
But, since "Evangelical Christians" have an irrational prejudice
against drinking, they try to spin the Bible to make it look
like Scripture prohibits drinking booze.
All that said, it is to the writer's credit (though he wrongly
tries to spin the good advice for the poor as "irony") that he
admits that the advice of King Lemuel's mother is sound. King
Lemuel's mother 🕊 makes it quite clear that the pain and
misery of the sick and/or those in poverty is ample
justification for self-medication.
As you can see from the vulgar, arrogant and totally
unprincipled government leaders
🦀🐉🦕🦖 we are cursed with today,
the elites continue to ignore this timeless advice. :(
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Posted on February 8, 2012 by Nathan Albright
The identity of King Lemuel is unknown. Some people think that
Lemuel is a pen name of King Solomon, the author of most of
Proverbs, but like Agur, the author of Proverbs 30 [1], he may
simply be an otherwise unknown wise man whose wisdom remains in
the Bible even after he has been forgotten by history. In this
case, the wisdom was (according to Proverbs) originally the
wisdom of Lemuel’s mother. Unfortunately, Lemuel’s mother, who
was presumably a princess or queen herself, has not been
recorded in scripture, and as Lemuel’s identity or his realm is
forgotten, Lemuel’s mother also has been consigned to historical
oblivion.
Nonetheless, what is most important about King Lemuel and his
mother is not their identity, or what realm they ruled over, but
the worthiness and implications of the advice itself on the
duties and responsibilities of kings. Needless to say, the
subject is of considerable interest to me. Of course, when the
Bible speaks about kings and their duties and responsibilities,
kings is a title that refers to civil rulers and leaders in
general and is not limited to monarchy, though it is of course
applicable at all places and all time.
There are three pieces of advice given to Lemuel by his mother
and then recorded in scripture. Let us examine each of them in
turn and see what sort of relevant advice we can glean from
them. The first piece of advice is recorded in Proverbs 31:1-3:
“The words of King Lemuel, the utterance which his mother taught
him: What, my son? And what, son of my womb? And what, son of my
vows? Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that
which destroys kings.” It is ironic that Lemuel’s mother tells
him not to give his strength to women nor his ways to that which
destroys kings. What is meant here? Given the context, that
Lemuel is the son of his mother’s womb and vows, that Lemuel was
a queen, the lawfully wedded wife of her husband, presumably a
king. Giving your strength to women means collecting and being
ensnared in a harem by women scheming for influence for
themselves and their children. What destroys kings is the
luxuriant and corrupt and decadent lifestyle that most monarchs
live–a way that destroys them mind, body, and spirit. So, lesson
number one for leaders is: don’t amass a harem; stick with one
godly wife.
The second piece of advice is found in Proverbs 31:4-7: “It is
not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, nor
for princes intoxicating drink; lest they drink and forget the
law, and pervert the justice of all the afflicted. Give strong
drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those who are bitter
of heart. Let him drink and forget his poverty, and remember his
misery no more.” This is a wise command, but one that is seldom
heeded by rulers. Far too often those who consider themselves
elites enjoy parties and banquets and luxury. The Bible forbids
leaders from drunkenness (including religious leaders) because
it interferes with the duties of a leader to discern and judge
justly. Intriguingly, Lemuel’s mother recommends drink for those
who are perishing, whose lives are full of misery, so that they
can forget their misery for a little while. This seems to be a
major reason why people self-medicate their problems and become
alcoholics. It is not clear whether this advice is ironic, and
intended to point out that drunkenness reflects misery rather
than happiness, vanity and futility rather than the proper
purposeful life of a ruler, but it is sound advice anyway.
Lesson number two for leaders is: stay sober and sober-minded.
The third lesson from Lemuel’s mother is contained in Proverbs
31:8-9: “Open your mouth for the speechless, in the cause of all
who are appointed to die. Open your mouth, judge righteously,
and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” Most kings and
rulers may wish to be seen as defending the cause of their
people, but in reality most of them plead the cause of elites,
be they military leaders or aristocrats or palace courtiers or
wealthy businessmen. Elites do not need for rulers to speak on
their behalf. They have their own power, their own lobbyists and
lawyers and other backers, and do not need the power of the
throne to support their interests. Rather, it is the poor and
needy and speechless, those who do not have a voice in the
corridors of power, nor can afford those to speak on their
behalf, that require the support of the ruler. And this support
cannot merely be lip service, but needs to be the expenditure of
actual political capital and effort on their behalf, for the
cause of justice within a realm. Most rulers and leaders,
whatever their inclinations, are unwilling to crusade for
justice within their realms and institutions, but are content to
go with the flow and enjoy the perks of office as well as the
benefits of associating with those who are already powerful and
well-connected, rather than to disrupt that equilibrium for the
sake of justice and equity. Lesson number three for leaders is:
godly leaders speak for the powerless and poor, not for the
elites.
All of these pieces of advice for leaders cut against the grain
of how leaders generally behave. If there are three sins of
leaders that are extremely common, the sins of sexual
immorality, luxuriant decadence, and casual injustice are high
among them. These are especially omnipresent evils in monarchies
whose focus is on splendor and luxury and where the power of the
monarch and his inner clique is bolstered by some kind of bogus
divine right view of leadership and where the responsibility of
rulers to uphold constitutional standards is weak or
nonexistent. We ought to be careful when we see such standards
present to ensure that such rulers are made aware of their
obligations to the people and cease from serving only themselves
and their favorites. Lemuel’s mother gave immensely wise advice,
and advice that is sadly seldom heeded by leaders, whether
crowned monarchs or not, to this day. Let it not remain so.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: November 27, 2018, 11:30 am
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Agelbert NOTE:
I am guilty ;D of the bold highlighted below in the quotes from
Wikipedia. My purpose here is to point out that the scholarly
level of knowledge of Greek, that Dr. Spiros Zodhiates
possessed, enabled him to spot, and correct, mistranslation
errors from Greek to English. These mistranslations cause
misconceptions resulting from reading the English Translation of
the New Testament (which was originally written mostly in
Greek).
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> Zodhiates was born of Greek parents on the island of Cyprus.
His father first brought the family to Port Said, Egypt and then
Khartoum, Sudan, looking for work. Spiros's brother, Argos
Zodhiates, was converted to Protestant Christianity after
hearing an evangelical preacher and brought this witness to his
mother and brother, who also became convinced of its truth.
>
> After neglecting to kiss a Greek Orthodox priest's hand
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/>Zodhiates was expelled from school. A lady named Katherine
took
pity on him and volunteered to teach the boy English. After
completing his Greek education, he attended the American
University in Cairo, Egypt, received his Th.B. degree from the
National Bible Institute (later Shelton College, which closed
its doors in 1990) in New York City, and his M.A. from New York
University. In 1978 he earned his Doctor of Theology degree from
Luther Rice Seminary of Jacksonville, Florida. He was also the
recipient of several honorary doctorates.
--- End Quote ---
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> Dr. Spiros Zodhiates (Greek:
Σπύρος
Ζωδιάτης; March 13,
1922-October 10, 2009)
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was a
Greek-American Bible scholar, author, and ministry innovator.
--- End Quote ---
Agelbert NOTE: The videos below are examples of the in depth
knowledge of Greek that aids all of us in understanding the
Gospels. In future posts I will provide quotes by Dr. Spiros
Zodhiates from his edited Hebrew-Greek Study Bible. I have
learned much from him. I hope you give him the benefit of the
doubt and carefully and seriously ponder what he says. This man
knew his Greek.
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/>A word of Scriptural advice to those who dismiss, mock or
otherwise disdain the wisdom of Dr. Spiros Zodhiates in regard
to mistranslations of Greek to English (in the Christian Bible
New Testament) without serious consideration of what he says in
this post and all the posts I will subsequently make:
--- Quote ---
> Proverbs 15 KJV
>
> The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth
of the wicked poureth out evil things.
>
> The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report
maketh the bones fat.
>
> The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the
wise.
>
> He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he
that heareth reproof getteth understanding.
>
> The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before
honour is humility
--- End Quote ---
.
In the videos below, the first important lesson we learn is
that, in Greek, there are TWO words for anger, but a SINGLE word
for both the Greek words is used in the English Translation of
the New Testament. The (justified or unjustified anger)
difference communicated by the TWO Greek words for anger is
extremely important for all of us.
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Unjustified
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ScriptureCentral
Published on Nov 17, 2012
From the "New Testament Light" television program, produced by
AMG International, which aired in syndication in the 1980s and
early 1990s. The program features the teaching of the late Dr.
Spiros Zodhiates, longtime president of AMG International, from
the original Greek New Testament text.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: November 27, 2018, 1:21 pm
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[center]Dr. Spiros Zodhiates' Funeral Service Part 4 - Philip
Zodhiates Son[/center]
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Paul Jenks
Published on Nov 3, 2009
Philip is the third child of Spiros and Joan Zodhiates. Philip
and his wife, Kathie, live with their six children in Virginia.
Philip and Kathie are the owners of Unlimited Response, Inc.
Philip is the President of the company.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: December 9, 2018, 12:10 pm
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> Hebrews 13:10-16 King James Version (KJV)
>
> We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which
serve the tabernacle. For the bodies of those beasts, whose
blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin,
are burned without the camp. [size=14pt]Wherefore Jesus also,
that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered
without the gate.
>
> [/size]Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp,
bearing his reproach. For here have we no continuing city, but
we seek one to come.
>
> By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God
continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his
name. But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with
such sacrifices God is well pleased.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: December 28, 2018, 11:03 am
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from the Hebrew-Greek Study Bible (compiled and edited by Spiros
Zodhiates, Th.D.):[/center]
Colossians 3:5
This verse combats Gnosticism (a Heresy) which taught that the
body is evil, and since it is evil in itself and cannot be
redeemed from its evil ways, it might as well do whatever it
wants
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of
your body." Bring them under control. Treat them as if they were
dead. Your spirit should have them under subjection because the
two, the spirit and the body, are interrelated and the body
behaves only as the spirit commands it. The evils of the body
which Paul lists are material expressions: porneia,
"fornication," including all sexual sins among unmarried or
married including adultery, homsexuality, incest, etc.;
akatharsia, uncleanness of all kinds that defile the body;
pathos, passion which here is translated "inordinate affection";
epithumia, "desire," which in this instance is similar to "lust"
because it is coupled with the adjective kakē, "bad" or
constitutionally evil (these two words are translated as "evil
concupiscence" which actually means lustful desire); pleonexia,
"coveteousness or greediness,"
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/>not because it is insufficient but because others have more.
Such desire
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Colossians 3:11
The Scythians
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inhabiting
the Caspian area of the Black Sea from about 2000 B.C. In the
late eighth century they moved into northern Persia. Their
initial advances to the southwest were checked by Sargon II of
Assyria (727-705 B.C.). Paul is using them as an example of
barbaric people (e.g.
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Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: January 3, 2019, 12:03 pm
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Too many people these days have been lured into embracing evil
by the carrots and sticks that demons wield in this Valley of
Tears. The "Christian" mega-churches in the USA are an excellent
example of depraved humans who embrace all things
ANTI-Christian, no matter who is hurt and no matter what the
Holy Scriptures say, all so they can "prosper" economically.
The Apostle Paul accurately described the true motive of these
heretics and contrasted it with the true motive of a Christian:
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> Philippians Chapter 3:18-21
>
> 18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell
you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of
Christ:
>
> 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and
whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
>
> 20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look
for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
>
> 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned
like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he
is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
--- End Quote ---
The bold faced heretics in these prosperity preaching
mega-churches often quote Philippians Chapter 4:19, ignoring the
message in the verses above and, more importantly, WITHOUT
mentioning the even clearer message delivered in some verses
(Philippians Chapter 4:11-13) a little before Philippians
Chapter 4:19:
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> Philippians Chapter 4:19
>
> 19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his
riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
--- End Quote ---
Notice that the what God promises to supply to the believer is
your NEED, not your GREED or your WANT. Often this NEED is not a
material item at all, but some ADVERSITY and/or the LACK of
material goods for the purpose of making your spirit grow. But,
too many people are blinded by the clever (greed based) claim
that hey, God is a really, really rich dude, so if I am promised
according to HIS "riches in glory", that is a lot of MATERIAL
PROSPERITY!
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Now look at verses 11-13 🧐
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> Philippians Chapter 4:11-13
>
> 11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in
whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
>
> 12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound:
every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full
and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
>
> 13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
--- End Quote ---
You need to be strengthened if you are in adversity. Therefore
the "all things" Paul is referring to are even more applicable
to bad times than to economic prosperity.
In the light of the above, the true context of verse 19 becomes
clear:
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> Philippians Chapter 4:19
>
> 19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his
riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
--- End Quote ---
When these heretics prosperity preach about "doing all things in
Christ", remind them that SUFFERING and ADVERSITY and WANT and
HUNGER are OFTEN part of DOING ALL THINGS IN CHRIST. Who knows?
It might even rip the money and power loving satanic blinders
they wear with such hypocritical pride off of them.
If anyone still harbors doubts about what Paul means when he
makes mention of how, and why, God uses His "riches in glory"
(see: "glorious power") to strengthen Christians, Colossians
Chapter 1, verse 11 should make it crystal clear that economic
prosperity is NOT included. God strengthens us during, as well
as through, adversity so we grow spiritually. The fruit of that
growth is good works, NOT the accumulation of wealth.
--- Quote ---
> Colossians Chapter 1:10-11
>
> 10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing,
being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the
knowledge of God;
>
> 11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious
power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;
--- End Quote ---
ANYONE who tells you that God wants you to be rich is engaging
in demonic mendacity. Reject their Prosperity Preaching Heresy.
Economic wealth is one of the biggest snares that Lucifer uses
to prevent you from obediently serving our Lord and Savior,
Jesus Christ.
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