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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: March 9, 2018, 4:50 pm
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[center]Christian Dominionists 😈 Meet at Trump's
Washington Hotel to Answer the "Divine 😈 Call to
War"[/center]
Friday, March 09, 2018
By Bill Berkowitz, Truthout | News Analysis
SNIPPET:
Though they are not nearly as well known as Christian Right
leaders, such as Jerry Falwell Jr., Franklin Graham and Robert
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a force worth paying attention to.
Those leaders, according to People for the American Way's Right
Wing Watch, "are associated with the New Apostolic Reformation,
which believes a triumphant, dominion-taking church 😈
will help bring about the return of Christ, and many are part of
POTUS Shield 😈 , a network of self-described apostles
😈 and prophets 😈 who believe ;) President Trump
🦀 was anointed by God to help bring that all about."
full article (bring your barf bag):
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Agelbert NOTE: These people ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! The are
pseudo-Christians that embody the Spirit of the ANTI-Christ in
the USA. The Bible is VERY CLEAR about how you should treat
people claiming to be brothers in Christ who's behavior
evidences them as crooks and liars: You are not supposed to
associate with them or even eat with them. The fact that these
bastards worship Trump is evidence that they are not real
Christians.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: March 29, 2018, 7:31 pm
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 20, 2018, 1:46 pm
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[quote author=Surly1 link=topic=1279.msg153807#msg153807
date=1526743638][center]Can the Republic Recover from Donald
Trump?
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There will be a lot of pieces to put back together, all at once,
when he is gone.[/quote]
[quote author=Eddie link=topic=1279.msg153813#msg153813
date=1526747733]
[quote author=Surly1 link=topic=1279.msg153807#msg153807
date=1526743638]
Can the Republic Recover from Donald Trump?
here will be a lot of pieces to put back together, all at once,
when he is gone.[/quote]
Yates asked the assembled: What is going to happen when this
administration is finally, blessedly over? It is a very good
question and there is no very good answer to it.
This is a rhetorical question. Yates, and Charlie Pierce both
are smart enough to figure out the answer.
It isn't Trump that's the worst problem. At some point he will
be gone. The real problem is that the worst of the worst
Americans, the Kochs, have finally captured the Executive branch
in the same way they have successfully captured the Congress and
state government. It's game over folks. Checkmate.
Will you vote for President Pence, or President Scott Walker?
Or maybe President Greg Abbott. Maybe Bob McDonnell of Virginia
will run, now that his several criminal convictions have been
reversed. They all know where to get the money. America's good
Christian community will support them all the way.
They will lower taxes for any unfortunate point O-1 Percenters
still left with a tax bill. They will make it legal to mine for
coal where your house sits. They will drill for oil in Coral
Bay, and bomb Turkey.[/quote]
The USA is a disguised military dictatorship. Military
dictatorships are the worse kind of parasite on an economy.
Their main products are death and pollution.
We are toast.
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[quote author=Karpatok link=topic=1279.msg153847#msg153847
date=1526782628]
You are absolutely correct AG. Because Trump and/or Clinton
and/or Pence and/or any others that Eddie just named are merely
symptoms of the lack of morals and integrity in this whole
society which no longer is unified by any values but the worship
of money and hedonism and selfishness. The entire world is being
murdered and destroyed by these Satanists. They are Satanists
because they are out to wallow in the destruction of everything
even including themselves. Can God prevail? Or must he start
over?
[/quote]
If God is God, then He/She/It cannot do anything but prevail.
Most readers here at the Doomstead Diner either are atheists who
disdain the "psychololigal weak minded crutch" of worshipping
the Deity OR do not really give a fork as long as said Deity
does not require worship and obedience to any moral code. The
former claim to be "ethical".
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/>Their only "ethics" based behavioral code is "might equals
right" (Orwell lives!). The latter are an egotistical bunch that
cannot, and will not, accept any constraints on their behavior
by some uppity Deity that never asked them permission to be born
into this plane of existence.
I KNOW that God IS God. I may never prevail, but God will
prevail. Though for many years I was angrily frustrated about
the lack of justice in human society, I now finally realize and
accept the fact that no human has the mental equipment to
question God's apparent lack of name takin' and ass kickin' on
this planet.
Yeah, we've been trying to do that for a long, long time (see
below).
[font=times new roman]Jeremiah 12 King James Version (KJV)
1 Righteous art thou, O Lord, when I plead with thee: yet let me
talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the
wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very
treacherously?
2 Thou hast planted them, yea, they have taken root: they grow,
yea, they bring forth fruit: thou art near in their mouth, and
far from their reins.[/font]
Jeremiah was thoroughly bent out of shape when he wrote this.
The next few passages has him asking for God to slaughter the
bad guys with all sorts of colorful blood and guts mayhem.
[font=times new roman]3 But thou, O Lord, knowest me: thou hast
seen me, and tried mine heart toward thee: pull them out like
sheep for the slaughter, and prepare them for the day of
slaughter.
4 How long shall the land mourn, and the herbs of every field
wither, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein? the
beasts are consumed, and the birds; because they said, He shall
not see our last end.[/font]
I've been there with that. Many readers here, whether they
worship themselves or the Law of Conservation of Energy ;D,
also want to kill off all the bad guys.
True, blessed are those folks who hunger and thirst for justice.
So, I will not judge harshly those who want to kill off all the
bad people making life difficult to miserable for the rest of
us.
Their logic is sound as long as there is no afterlife.
I firmly believe there is an afterlife. I firmly believe this
portion of human existence is an embryonic proving ground.
What comes after is as different as a majestic Sequoia tree is
from a tiny seed.
Due to the inherent limitations of a seed versus a tree, I can
understand why so many other seeds around here think I am full
of horse poopy.
Another analogy to the self-limiting modus vivendi of these
seeds is Plato's Cave. I've seen what's on the outside of that
cave. Nothing that goes on inside the cave compares to it. The
cynical wishful thinkers that firmly believe that this cave of
shadow boxing baloney is all there is are DEAD wrong.
I used to be just like them. But I finally got to a place where
the real water of life cleared things up for me.
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I still get depressed and I still rant about injustice, but I
know all this is temporary. God IS God. I am not now, or ever
will be, God. My job is to obey He/She/It, whether I like it or
not. Seeds should never presume to know what it is like to be a
Sequoia.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 20, 2018, 6:08 pm
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[quote author=Karpatok link=topic=1279.msg153882#msg153882
date=1526841492]
Thank you AG. For your time and your excellent reply. Lots to
think about there, and I will. Thank you again.
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You are welcome.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 31, 2018, 11:14 am
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[quote author=Eddie link=topic=11112.msg154662#msg154662
date=1527771452]
And Palloy doesn't get why I'm a bit conflicted by the current
flavor of Christianity in the world. Evangelicals are completely
delusional. Someone should tell them it's a small planet and
that the Good News has already made it around the globe. The
only people left to convert are the hungry people with no food.
They'll listen to anything if you're buying dinner.
Everybody else already knows all about how God so loved the
world that he sent white men with funny hair in private jets to
fleece them for their spare change.
Preacher Asks Followers To Help Buy Fourth Private Jet For $54
Million
One would think that by the time you are buying your 4th private
jet, you can afford it on your own; well in the case of US
televangelist Jesse Duplantis, that's not the case: it turns out
Jesse decided to share the burden of his newest toy with his
followers, asking them to help fund his fourth private jet
because Jesus "wouldn't be riding a donkey".
In other words, Jesse Duplantis said God had told him to buy a
Falcoln 7X for $54 million.
And while according to BBC he was hesitant at first about the
ridiculous purchase, when God told him "I didn't ask you to pay
for it. I asked you to believe for it", all his doubts faded
away.
While there have been similar ridiculous past requests by
tele-evangelists, who pray on the stupid and the gullible, this
particular appeal caused immediate controversy, and as noted by
BBC, Twitter exploded with many users responding to the request
with shock and disbelief, some quoting Bible verses warning
against greed and "false prophets", or suggesting that the money
could be better used to help the poor; others simply decided to
slam the charlatan "preacher."
The belligerent responses, however, did not stop Duplantis: in a
video address posted on his website, the 68-year-old explained:
"You know, I've owned three different jets in my life, and I've
used them and just burning them up for the Lord Jesus Christ.
"Now, some people believe that preachers shouldn't have jets. I
really believe that preachers ought to go on every available
voice, every available outlet, to get this Gospel preached to
the world."
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Standing beside framed pictures of his current fleet, he said
that the jet he bought 12 years ago was no longer sufficient for
his ministry because he could not fly non-stop, meaning he had
to pay "exorbitant" refuelling costs. And what god allows his
preachers to have to deal with that...
Jesse Duplantis
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In another picture which appeared in the video, the preacher
stands with the three aircraft, above the caption: "It's not
about possessions, it's about priorities."
To be sure, Duplantis came prepared and justified his request by
saying that Jesus had told people to "go into the world and
preach the Gospel to every creature, now how we gonna do that? I
can't live long enough to travel by car or by ship or by train,
but I can do it by an aeroplane".
In retrospect, flawless logic, and we certainly understand his
motivation: surely there will be enough idiots within his
"flock" who defray the $54 million purchase price; but why the
fixation with private Well, in 2015, Mr Duplantis appeared in a
video with another preacher, Kenneth Copeland, in which Mr
Copeland described travelling on commercial airlines as being
"in a long tube with a bunch of demons".
Come to think of it, he may be correct.
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Eddie, it gets better. ;)
During the horrendous rains from Hurricane Harvey in Texas, a
certain mega church prosperity preaching "Christian" (Palloy is
right that anyone who doesn't walk the talk should not call
themselves that without quotes) who never says ZIP about sin or
sacrifice but just talks about lovey dovey and so on, REFUSED to
open his church as a shelter for those flooded out. I don't
remember that soul of perdition's name, but that is one the
biggest "Christian" churches in the USA. So it goes.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 31, 2018, 12:27 pm
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[quote author=Eddie link=topic=11112.msg154683#msg154683
date=1527784916]
[quote author=Palloy2 link=topic=11112.msg154668#msg154668
date=1527777963]
[quote]Eddie: And Palloy doesn't get why I'm a bit conflicted by
the current flavor of Christianity in the world.[/quote]
That is because you call them Christians, instead of
"Christians", and you call yourself Christian as well, but you
consider yourself different from them. So it is very hard to
understand what you mean.
All I am saying is "highest duty is to myself and my family" is
NOT a Christian saying, it is a Bernaysian saying used by rich
American fake Christians to justify their selfish deeds.
[/quote]
I said I was a Christian. I didn't say I was Jesus Christ.
Jesus said to "love your neighbor as yourself".
Neighbor. Get that, Commandante?
Like Jesus described, I practice my Christianity locally. When
the die-off comes, if I'm still around, I expect I'll have
plenty of opportunities to be a good Christian.
He didn't say:
"Seize the means of production, form a collective, and divide
the proceeds so that the greatest good is accomplished for the
greatest number."
or
"Blow up the Parliament with a keg of gunpowder to protest the
oppression of the masses."
He did say (when pressed by some guys that remind me of you)
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the
things that are God's."
I never said that putting myself and my family ahead of all the
miserable starving people in the world was a Christian saying.
It's the most simple law there is. The law of the jungle. If you
don't think you're controlled by that law, you're crazy.
“On the day of the hunt I came to know in the slick center of my
bones this one thing; all animals kill to survive, and we are
animals. The lion kills the baboon, the baboon kills fat
grasshoppers. The elephant tears up living trees, dragging their
precious roots from the dirt they love....And we, even if we had
no meat or even grass to gnaw, still boil our water to kill the
invisible creatures that would like to kill us first. And
swallow quinine pills. The death of something living is the
price of our own survival, and we pay it again and again. We
have no choice. It is the one solemn promise every life on earth
is born and bound to keep.”
[/quote]
Eddie, you were raised in Texas with Christian doctrine and I
was raised in Kansas with serious (walk the talk, not like most
Catholics) Catholic doctrine.
Later on I went to an evangelical Christian church, learned
sound doctrine, and observed while almost nobody followed it.
They threw me out. ;D
All of that is water under the bridge. You and I have seen first
hand thoughout our lives how people cherry pick portions of the
Gospel to suit their greed and their selfish needs.
That IS the issue with Chritianity. That is what causes so many
people to walk away from these so-called "Christian" churches
AND keeps a lot of Catholics in the fold, so to speak, because
Catholicism focuses on the "we are all sinners and that's life"
convenient cop out for egregiously routine sinful behavior with
no attempt whatsoever to follow Chistian ethics, except with lip
service.
Also, the nominal "Christian" evangelicals who claim they can
party because it's all "under the blood" are in the exact same
category of reprobates as most Catholics are.
What this teaching of Jesus Christ is all about, and as you know
sticks in most people's craw, is that, without God's grace
through the Holy spirit, you cannot walk the Christian talk.
Some people throw up their hands and say it is victim psychology
and anyone with a minimum of pride and two brain cells to rub
together should reject Christianity.
Yep, most people do that. And they DO THAT because human society
celebrates the strength of human will, resolve, fortitude, and
so on. It's important to have those qualities, but they are a
stumblig block if they are the foundation of a person's
personality. They MUST be secondary in the true Christian.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ makes it crystal clear that your will
is not worth a tinker's damn. THAT really torques a lot of
people who feel they can control their behavior and are ethical
to the core. Well, they are full of pride, not ethics. They are
fooling themselves (and a lot of other people too).
As humans, we can only judge the veracity or not of what people
say they are with what they do. And even that is not totally
reliable because sometimes people have a bad day and abuse those
around them. So, we just try to get a general track record of
what they do as it lines up, or not, with what they say.
BUT, we are NOT God. The instant we put ourselves in that role,
as too many here routinely do, we are not going to be objective
about what sinful behavior is and what it is not simply because
God, by definition, DOES NOT SIN. At that point the person who
fancies himself to "have the big picture", will use every bit of
pretzel logic in existence from Machiavelli to Orwell to justify
whatever he wants to do and condemn whoever he conveniently
wants to condemn.
That's idolatry of the self. That is what most "Christians" in
the USA DO. That is what atheist DO. That is what this country
is all about! Christianity is a joke to most "Christians".
What God will do with this mess is His problem. My categorical
imperative (apologies to Kant ;D) as a Christian is to ask,
each and every day, NOT what God can do for me, but what God
wants me to do for Him. The INSTANT that God is not in the
driver's seat of my decision making software, I am NOT a
Christian, PERIOD.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 31, 2018, 12:28 pm
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Eddie, with all due respect, I think your definition of a
nominal Christian requires quotes around the word "Christian".
A Christian does NOT EVER make money and economic prosperity his
goal in life (See: SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, and so on).
A Christian does NOT EVER support government action that murders
foreigners in their lands for corporate profit.
A Christian does NOT EVER consider himself better than any other
human being, of whatever religion or culture or skin color.
If you think a person can be a Christian and not behave as I
just described, then you are confusing those reprobates who wear
the label of "Christian" as a con to take people for a ride with
a real Christian.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 31, 2018, 12:57 pm
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date=1527783365]
[quote author=agelbert link=topic=559.msg154672#msg154672
date=1527782151]
US barking up the wrong trade tree
And therein lies the cruelest twist of all. China is the US'
low-cost provider of imported consumer goods. The Trump
🦀 deal would shift the Chinese piece of the US'
multilateral imbalance to higher-cost imports from
elsewhere[size=12pt] - the functional equivalent of a tax hike
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As Hoover's
ghost might ask, what's so great about that?
[/quote]
What many Trump apologists fail to note is that NOTHING that
Trump does is for the good of the "'Murkin pee-pul." It is for
the good of Trump, his immediate family and his criminal grift
and money-laundering enterprise. Cabinet members and hangers-on
get to grab as much as they can for as long as they can as long
as the window remains open, and devil take the hindmost. The
Russia investigation notwithstanding, a not corrupt Congress
would have already impeached and convicted Trump, for emoluments
clause violations alone. The scale of the corruption is truly
staggering, making the Grant and Harding administrations look
like so many convent devotees.
The rich will be just fine, as the rich are always fine. It is
Trump's supporters who will find themselves further dispossessed
and broke, and who will be encouraged to take out their ire on
someone younger, browner, poorer. Fleece the rubes: Wash, rinse,
repeat. It always works.
Yeah, I know. Here come the choruses of "Both-sides-do-it,"
"whataboutism," "but-her-emails," and "cunt."
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However, I think the rich backers of Trump are effectively
taking a long walk off a short pier. Yes, we will all go down
together. Life on Earth is aptly named the valley of tears.
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Some may say that is a defeatist attitude. I say, as a student
of climate science and human history, the interminable hostility
of greedy humans to each other and the continued, willful insane
destruction of the biosphere 'seed corn' that allows human
existence are behavioral problems can only be fixed by God
modifying human nature so we ALL think altruistically, instead
of greedily.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
By: AGelbert Date: May 31, 2018, 1:33 pm
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[quote author=Eddie link=topic=11112.msg154692#msg154692
date=1527789524]
[quote author=agelbert link=topic=11112.msg154688#msg154688
date=1527786855]
Eddie, you were raised in Texas with Christian doctrine and I
was raised in Kansas with serious (walk the talk, not like most
Catholics) Catholic doctrine.
Later on I went to an evangelical Christian church, learned
sound doctrine, and observed while almost nobody followed it.
They threw me out. ;D
All of that is water under the bridge. You and I have seen first
hand thoughout our lives how people cherry pick portions of the
Gospel to suit their greed and their selfish needs.
That IS the issue with Chritianity. That is what causes so many
people to walk away from these so-called "Christian" churches
AND keeps a lot of Catholics in the fold, so to speak, because
Catholicism focuses on the "we are all sinners and that's life"
convenient cop out for egregiously routine sinful behavior with
no attempt whatsoever to follow Chistian ethics, except with lip
service.
Also, the nominal "Christian" evangelicals who claim they can
party because it's all "under the blood" are in the exact same
category of reprobates as most Catholics are.
What this teaching of Jesus Christ is all about, and as you know
sticks in most people's craw, is that, without God's grace
through the Holy spirit, you cannot walk the Christian talk.
Some people throw up their hands and say it is victim psychology
and anyone with a minimum of pride and two brain cells to rub
together should reject Christianity.
Yep, most people do that. And they DO THAT because human society
celebrates the strength of human will, resolve, fortitude, and
so on. It's important to have those qualities, but they are a
stumblig block if they are the foundation of a person's
personality. They MUST be secondary in the true Christian.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ makes it crystal clear that your will
is not worth a tinker's damn. THAT really torques a lot of
people who feel they can control their behavior and are ethical
to the core. Well, they are full of pride, not ethics. They are
fooling themselves (and a lot of other people too).
As humans, we can only judge the veracity or not of what people
say they are with what they do. And even that is not totally
reliable because sometimes people have a bad day and abuse those
around them. So, we just try to get a general track record of
what they do as it lines up, or not, with what they say.
BUT, we are NOT God. The instant we put ourselves in that role,
as too many here routinely do, we are not going to be objective
about what sinful behavior is and what it is not simply because
God, by definition, DOES NOT SIN. At that point the person who
fancies himself to "have the big picture", will use every bit of
pretzel logic in existence from Machiavelli to Orwell to justify
whatever he wants to do and condemn whoever he conveniently
wants to condemn.
That's idolatry of the self. That is what most "Christians" in
the USA DO. That is what atheist DO. That is what this country
is all about! Christianity is a joke to most "Christians".
What God will do with this mess is His problem. My categorical
imperative (apologies to Kant ;D) as a Christian is to ask,
each and every day, NOT what God can do for me, but what God
wants me to do for Him. The INSTANT that God is not in the
driver's seat of my decision making software, I am NOT a
Christian, PERIOD.
[/quote]
My best understanding of Jesus I gained not from Texas doctrine,
but from reading Yogananda, who completely GOT Jesus, imho. He
was so interested in trying to explain Jesus to Americans that
he wrote two whole books about it, neither of whom ever got much
attention.
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Was Yogananda a Christian? Specifically, did Yogananda believe
that Jesus Christ was, and is, God? If not, Yogananda was
focusing on the teachings, not the supernatural nature of grace
and the action of the Holy Spirit. That is, again, the belief
that humans can actually follow Christ's teachings by the force
of their own "Godlike" will. Did Yogananda believe in Karma?
Karma is a replacement for God's answer to sin without God. That
is, quite frankly, a blasphemy if associated with Chritianity or
Jesus Christ.
Gandhi, like you, said he liked Christianity (i.e. SOME, not
all, of Christ's teachings) but wasn't too impressed with the
unChristian behavior of Christians.
I respectfully, but totally, disagree with your definition of
Christianity. Knarf, the Bhuddist, is quite Christian in his
behavior towards fellow humans and the life forms around him.
That does not make him a Christian.
Your behavior towards your neighbors is ethical and laudable,
but that does not make you a Christian. I am sure Yogananda, if
he lives still, is a principled human with laudable behavior.
But as long he claims Jesus was not God, Yogonanda, like Gandhi,
Knarf and you, is not a Christian. Monotheism is not negotiable
in Christianity.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
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Christianity in the FSoA is defined by its Spokesmodels.
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They wear the label, but they need to be called "Christians",
not Christians. There is NOTHING about those con artist front
men for empire murder and mayhem that is Christian in ANY WAY!
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