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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 7, 2015, 6:57 pm
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Amicable Discussion ;D with a fossil fueler mocking Renewable
Energy as a factor in fossil fuel demand destruction:
[quote author=MKing link=topic=4539.msg82399#msg82399
date=1438979835]
[quote author=agelbert link=topic=4539.msg82396#msg82396
date=1438978686]
Renewable energy=
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See my posting on what us renewable energy folks are now using
for renewable powered personal transport!!
Not only can we have our renewable electrical generation, but we
can have style, size and comfort as well!!
13%+ renewable electricity last I checked on the grid stats, and
20%+ from my own power generation!! Sitting at the 33% renewable
mark as we speak!! Go renewables!!
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See THIS post about what MKing wants to label "deflation"
(LOL!).
[quote]The center of this commodity collapse is the energy
market.
Chevron's earnings were down a dramatic 90% from last year.
Exxon's were down 51% y-o-y, the worst quarter since early 2009.
The collapse in energy shares alone adds up to $1.3 Trillion and
is expected to create a $4.4 Trillion hole in energy company
earnings over the next three years.
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The Commodity Market Wipeout
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You should have sold SLB when I advised you too, Mr. day late
and a dollar short.
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Don't
pretend I didn't do that over six months ago. I also called the
first floor on the oil price. Here we are again!
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/>Notice that the SAME floor I called then is where we are NOW.
There is a significant difference NOW, however. You will notice,
if you bother to look, that tanker stocks aren't booming like
the last time. This time, panic is taking hold from the
REJECTION and DEFECTION part of demand destruction you (and some
others here ;)) refuse to recognize.
That said, the really big difference now from the first price
floor is in the old reliable Baltic Dry Index. That was flashing
super red in the summer of 2008. There it is again.
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The Baltic Dry Index is Shouting "Danger, Will Robinson!" But
Are Investors Listening?
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In the Commodity Market Wipeout
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/>you will NOTE that in the summer of 2008, as is the case THIS
summer, the writing was on the wall for the fun and games that
arrived in the fall of 2008.
However, THIS time it is going to be a great deal more difficult
for your pals at the Fed to pull the bankers and the fossil fuel
industry asses out of the imminent bankruptcy from stock tanking
'toilet'.
I write this only in the hope that those not ideologically
straight jacketed, like you, will see reason.
I know you won't listen and sell before you are wiped out. Too
bad for you.
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 7, 2015, 8:17 pm
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[quote author=Mercury link=topic=4539.msg82427#msg82427
date=1438992426]
[center]Nope. No sign of a bottom here. In fact, sell every
rally![/center]
[center]WTI Crude closes on its lows, falls another 1.77% to
$43.75...Oil down for the sixth straight week
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:o ;D :D
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Mercury,
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To MKing who pretends he does not know what SLB means even
though he DID NOT deny holding that stock when we discussed it
in December of 2014.
Schlumberger Limited.
NYSE: SLB - Aug 7 7:50 PM EDT
82.26 Price decrease1.35 (1.61%)
After-hours: 82.22 Price decrease0.04 (0.05%)
For those of you, (unlike MKing. ;)) who have not heard of the
Schlumberbger planet trashers, read on.
Read what this giant polluter and OWNER of most of the fracking
machinery says about how to 'handle' environmental legislation:
Schlumberger N.V. (SLB): The BIG OIL Planet Polluter you never
heard of
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Yes, the above post is somewhat dated. In that post from October
24, 2014, SLB had a market cap of about 130 billion dollars.
They are now at 105.8B. Easy come, easy go, eh?
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 13, 2015, 2:12 pm
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Oil Majors' $60 Billion Cuts Don't Go Far Enough as Crude Slides
;D
[quote]
Each $1 change in the price of Brent affects Shell’s pretax
profit by about $330 million, while for BP the impact is $300
million, according to data from the companies. [b]Chevron’s cash
flow would be hit by as much as $350 million. ;D Of the
three, BP pumps the most crude. [/b][/quote]
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 13, 2015, 5:35 pm
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Beyond Fossil Fuels:
The Investment Case
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[center]Executive Summary[/center]
Pressure is building on institutional investors to assess their
exposure to companies that extract fossil fuels. As concerns
rise about the likely effects on the climate from greenhouse gas
emissions, grassroots campaigns calling for fossil fuel
divestment are growing.
In parallel, financial analysts are increasingly warning
investors of the risks that tighter regulations on carbon
dioxide emissions and falling demand for fossil fuels could make
fossil fuel reserves substantially less valuable, or even
'stranded' and ultimately rendered worthless.
While trustees may be sympathetic to these concerns, and
investment officers skeptical of the outcome of looming
greenhouse gas regulation, there are legitimate questions about
the effects on portfolio risk and returns from the partial or
complete divestment of fossil fuel stocks.
So the question becomes: how should a fiduciary compare the
risks to portfolios presented by stricter carbon regulations to
the risks associated with reducing exposure to fossil fuel
stocks?
Analysis of historical data shows that over the past seven years
eliminating the fossil fuel sector from a global benchmark index
would have actually had a small positive return effect.
Furthermore, much of the economic effect of excluding fossil
fuel stocks could have been replicated with 'fossil free' energy
portfolios consisting of energy efficiency and renewable energy
stocks, with limited additional tracking error and improved
returns.
Impax believes that investors should consider reorienting their
portfolios towards low carbon energy by replacing fossil fuel
stocks with energy efficiency and renewable energy investments,
thereby retaining exposure to the energy sector while reducing
the risks posed by the fossil fuel sector.
[font=times new roman]IMPAX Asset Management full report: [img
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 16, 2015, 8:00 pm
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Why an Oil Glut May Lead to a New World of Energy
Posted on Aug 14, 2015 By Michael T. Klare, TomDispatch
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Agelbert Comment:
The causes attributed the drop in crude in this article lack one
very important cause. The Rocky Mountain Institute has written
about it. It's called DEMAND DEFECTION from new Renewable Energy
coming on line.
Already, utilities are using less fossil fuels to generate
energy because of DEMAND DEFECTION.
[url=
HTML http://www.rmi.org/electricity_grid_defection"]The<br
/>Economics of Grid Defection - Distributed electricity
generation, especially solar PV, is rapidly spreading and
getting much cheaper. Distributed electricity storage is doing
the same, thanks largely to mass production of batteries for
electric vehicles. Solar power is already starting to erode some
utilities’ sales and revenues.[/url]
[url=
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/renewables/the-big-picture-of-renewable-energy-growth/msg3552/#msg3552"]It’s<br
/>time to take the Clean Energy Would Kill the Economy show off
the air once and for all.[/url]
And it is HIGH TIME we stopped calling oil an asset.
[url=
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/fossil-fuel-folly/fossil-fuel-subsidies-in-the-u-s/msg3369/#msg3369"]Renewable<br
/>is the cheaper energy option without fossil fuel and hidden
nuclear subsides.[/url]
Fossil Fuels are a LIABILITY. Using LESS of them DOES NOT "kill"
the economy; it STRENGTHENS IT!
WHY? Because, while Renewable Energy increasingly takes up the
energy slack, we reduce having to EAT the "externalized" costs
to the environment and human health from using dirty energy.
[url=
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/climate-change/global-warming-is-with-us/msg3542/#msg3542"]The<br
/>more I thought about climate change, the more I realized I had
to do something other than publish my studies in scientific
journals.[/url]
[url=
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/climate-change/pollution/msg3621/#msg3621"]These<br
/>results will not be welcome news as there are many with
short-term vested interests that will want to ignore them. The
Reason Brain Diseases Have Quadrupled in 21 Years. [/url]
Asset Mangers agree. Fossil fuels are a BAD INVESTMENT!
"Analysis of historical data shows that over the past seven
years eliminating the fossil fuel sector from a global benchmark
index would have actually had a small positive return effect.
Furthermore, much of the economic effect of excluding fossil
fuel stocks could have been replicated with 'fossil free' energy
portfolios consisting of energy efficiency and renewable energy
stocks, with limited additional tracking error and improved
returns."
[url=
HTML http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/fossil-fuel-folly/fossil-fuel-profits-getting-eaten-alive-by-renewable-energy!/msg3607/#msg3607"]IMPAX<br
/>Asset Management Report on the Case for Fossil Fuel divestment
.
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 17, 2015, 6:50 pm
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[quote author=MKing link=topic=4539.msg83101#msg83101
date=1439817793]
[quote author=RE link=topic=4539.msg83094#msg83094
date=1439807814]
Down to $41.64.
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Wait till we cross the $40 handle! That should be fun. :o
RE
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Fun isn't a proper description of something that will bring join
and discretionary income to so many. But for those of us who use
these liquid fuels to explore the world, see new sights, expand
our horizons, well….a picture describes our feelings best.
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Even a cursory look at the operating costs of exploring for and
extracting fossil fuels shoes BLATENTLY that the cost of the
fuel for the machines does not even reach 10%. Sure, it would be
a LOT HIGHER IF you fine fellows did not "EXTERNALIZE" the
pollution from burning that fuel on your machines. But you do.
And the gooberment you bought helps with your welfare queen
creative accounting. Crookedly offloading real costs is not the
same as not having them, pal!
The oil companies that are not being hurt as badly by low crude
prices are the DOWNSTREAM (gougers 'R' US
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/>oil predators. They DO NOT explore for, or extract, fossil
fuels. Downstream companies will not tend to be hit as hard,
since they profit by purchasing crude and selling the refined
products at a premium. These profit margins should remain fairly
stable even with fluctuating oil prices.
The GOOD part, for people like me ;D, is that today, most of
the big oil companies have both large upstream and downstream
operations and are referred to as integrated oil companies. So
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Your claim that an UPSTREAM (i.e. fossil fuel exploration and
extraction corporation) operation is happy about low crude
prices is B U L L S H I T. Upstream oil producers are hardest
hit as their costs to produce oil exceed the market price and
they end up operating at a loss. Integrated oil companies, while
negatively impacted from their upstream operations, find the
blow dampened a bit by their downstream component.
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[quote]"Analysis of historical data shows that over the past
seven years eliminating the fossil fuel sector from a global
benchmark index would have actually had a small positive return
effect. Furthermore, much of the economic effect of excluding
fossil fuel stocks could have been replicated with 'fossil free'
energy portfolios consisting of energy efficiency and renewable
energy stocks, with limited additional tracking error and
improved returns."
IMPAX Asset Management Report on the Case for Fossil Fuel
divestment.
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The Fossil Fuel Industry has given us Degraded Democracy and
Profit over Planet Pollution
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Fossil Fuels are going the way of the Dodo Bird. Live with it!
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One more thing, Mking: DON'T MAKE ME PULL OUT SOME GRAPHS, PIE
CHARTS AND/OR cost/benefit data SHOWING THE FUEL PERCENTAGE OF
various fossil fuel EXPLORATION AND EXTRACTION OPERATING COSTS.
I understand managerial accounting reports quite well. I am
familiar with the two accounting approaches your pals use:
"successful efforts" (SE) method and the "full cost" (FC)
method. ;D With EITHER one, the cost of fuel is PEANUTS among
ALL COSTS involved (i.e. Acquisition Costs, Exploration Costs,
Development Costs and Production Costs).
You have already embarrassed yourself quite enough for today.
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Fossil Fuel happy talk versus the real world
By: AGelbert Date: August 19, 2015, 6:13 pm
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Fossil Fuel happy talk versus the Real World
FIRST, the happy talk (that excludes any mention whatsoever of
the negative impact of Renewable Energy on oil corporation
profits while it includes a plethora of half truths. ;)) that
fossil fueler fools
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/>eat up and believe:
[quote]Oil Stocks That Are Worth Your Attention: Key Energy
Services, Inc. (NYSE:KEG), McDermott International (NYSE:MDR),
Linn Energy LLC (NASDAQ:LINE)
By Rickie Moberg
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August 13, 2015
The International Energy Agency says demand for oil has
rebounded to the highest levels in five years, as consumers
respond to lower prices and the global economy strengthens.
However, the bad news for the big oil producers like OPEC, is
that global supply remains strong and the lower prices are
unlikely to significantly dent production until next year.
The IEA’s August Oil Market Report found, “the supply overhang –
the difference between global supply and demand – has persisted
and reached a staggering 3 million barrels per day in the second
half of 2105, the widest gap in 17 years, as ever-higher flows
of oil hit world markets.”
However, the IEA revised up its growth forecast for oil demand
by 14 per cent – or 200,000 barrels a day – to 1.6 million
barrels a day this year.
Oil supply fell by 600,000 barrels a day in July, mainly due to
production declines in non-OPEC nations.
OPEC production remained steady at three-year highs.
The IEA report argued, as lower prices and spending cuts take a
toll, non-OPEC supply growth is expected to slow sharply from a
2014 record of 2.4 million barrels a day to 1.1 million barrels
a day this year.
“Our latest forecast shows stronger-than-anticipated demand and
non-OPEC supply growth swinging into contraction next year,” the
IEA said.
“On the other side of the equation, global supply continues to
grow at a breakneck pace – currently running 2.7 million barrels
a day above a year earlier – despite a collapse in oil prices.
“While a rebalancing has clearly begun, the process is likely to
be prolonged as a supply overhang is expected to persist through
2016 – suggesting global inventories will pile up further.”
However, the IEA outlook does not include potentially higher
Iranian output in the case of sanctions being lifted.
The independent energy and resources newsletter Platts reported
that OPEC production jumped by 120,000 barrels a day last month
to 31.4 million barrels a day.
OPEC’s dominant player Saudi Arabia accounted for more than 80
per cent of the increase.
Key Energy Services, Inc. (NYSE:KEG) share price decreased in
the last trading session with a previous 52-week high of $6.68.
The stock was trading on above-average volume. The stock traded
at a volume of 3.057 million shares at a price loss of -7.87%.
The share price is now down -69.17% for the past three months.
Latest closing price was -46.80% below its 50-day moving average
and -57.15% below its 200-day moving average.
While trading at volume higher than average, McDermott
International (NYSE:MDR) climbed +8.12% at the end of recent
close. Its previous 52-week high was $7.62 and moved down
-37.03% over the same period, trading at a volume of 4.961
million. Shares have risen +79.23% over the trailing 6 months.
The stock is currently trading -8.31% below its SMA 50 and
+16.34% above its SMA 200.
Linn Energy LLC (NASDAQ:LINE) closed at $3.41, up +0.20 points
or +6.23% from previous close and at a distance of -30.44% from
20-day simple moving average. Over the last 12 months, a return
on equity of -20.20 percent was realized due to the financial
situation and earnings per share reached a value of -$2.64. Last
fiscal year, $1.25 has been paid in form of dividends to
investors. Earnings are projected to move up 69.76 percent for
the coming five years.
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NOW for the REAL WORLD:
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Key Energy Services, Inc. (NYSE:KEG)
KEG 0.715 -0.044 (-5.76%)
Range 0.66 - 0.79
52 week 0.66 - 6.38
Open 0.76
Vol / Avg. 3.92M/3.22M
Mkt cap 119.56M
P/E -
Div/yield -
EPS -1.55
McDermott International NYSE: MDR - Aug 19 4:03 PM EDT
4.14 Price decrease 0.15 (3.50%)
Stock Trend Analysis Report
Prepared for you on Wednesday, August 19, 2015.
LINN ENERGY LLC (NASDAQ:LINE)
Smart Scan Chart Analysis confirms that a strong downtrend is in
place and that the market remains negative longer term. Strong
Downtrend with money management stops. A triangle indicates the
presence of a very strong trend that is being driven by strong
forces and insiders.
NASDAQ_LINE Change 2.83 2.88 2.52 2.57 -0.31 gnal
MarketClub’s Trade Triangles for LINE
long term down The long term trend has been DOWN since Oct 1st,
2014 at 29.5701
intermediate term down The intermediate term trend has been DOWN
since May 11th, 2015 at 12.9031
short term down The short term trend has been DOWN since Jul
30th, 2015 at 5.4400
Smart Scan Analysis for LINE
Based on a pre-defined weighted trend formula for chart
analysis, LINE scored -100 on a scale from -100 (strong
downtrend) to +100 (strong uptrend).
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 20, 2015, 7:17 pm
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What has the Wellcome Trust gained from its investments in coal,
oil and gas?
[quote]The answer is that they have nose-dived in the past year
due to falling share prices. By remaining wedded to the fossil
fuel industry, the Wellcome Trust has lost £175m. BHP Billiton's
share price slid by 45%, Shell's by 30%, Rio Tinto's by 29% and
BP by 21%. [/quote]
Wellcome Trust loses millions as its fossil fuel investments
plunge in value
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
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Re: Fossil Fuel Profits Getting Eaten Alive by Renewable Energy!
By: AGelbert Date: August 24, 2015, 2:56 pm
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[quote author=MKing link=topic=5453.msg83652#msg83652
date=1440425812]
[quote author=Mercury link=topic=5453.msg83631#msg83631
date=1440396896]
Waiting for a rally as an opportunity to get short in WTI and
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Not here. Bailed out last week of most market funds, and am
waiting for the full Monte, the DJIA at 9000 perhaps? Then I go
long on market funds in general. But it isn't even close to
collapse yet, this penny ante stuff hasn't even scared out the
institutional folks.
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[i]
SURE. RIGHT. ;)[/i] You "bailed out" last week.... And we all,
of course, BELIEVE you, since you have been so forthright in
telling us your NAME and your PORTFOLIO holdings before this
"correction". ;D
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[center]Boy tells chimp MKing claims he isn't losing his ass in
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