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       Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: January 25, 2016, 9:40 pm
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       [center]The Suicide of the Liberal Church [/center]
       Posted on Jan 24, 2016
       By Chris Hedges
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       The chapel of The General Theological Seminary in New York City.
       The seminary, founded in 1817, sold much of its property to
       developers in recent years. (Julie Jacobson / AP) (graphic at
       article link)
       Paul Tillich wrote that all institutions, including the church,
       are inherently demonic. Reinhold Niebuhr asserted that no
       institution could ever achieve the morality of the individual.
       Institutions, he warned, to extend their lives when confronted
       with collapse, will swiftly betray the stances that ostensibly
       define them. Only individual men and women have the strength to
       hold fast to virtue when faced with the threat of death.
       And decaying institutions, including the church, when consumed
       by fear, swiftly push those endowed with this moral courage and
       radicalism from their ranks, rendering themselves obsolete.
       The wisdom of Tillich and Niebuhr has been borne out in the
       precipitous decline of the liberal church and the seminaries and
       divinity schools that train religious scholars and clergy. Faced
       with shrinking or nonexistent endowments, mounting debts,
       dwindling memberships, a lack of employment for their graduates
       and growing irrelevancy in a society that has little use for
       tepid church piety and the smug arrogance that comes with it,
       these institutions have fallen into physical and moral decay.
       The number of adults in the mainline Protestant
       churches—Presbyterian, Unitarian-Universalist, Lutheran,
       Methodist, Episcopalian, Congregationalist—decreased from about
       41 million in 2007 to 36 million in 2014, according to the Pew
       Research Center. And the average age of the congregant is 52.
       The Catholic Church also is being decimated; its decline has
       been exacerbated by its decades-long protection of sexual
       predators within the priesthood and the Vatican’s relentless
       campaign, especially under John Paul II, to force out of the
       church priests, nuns and lay leaders who focused their
       ministries on the poor and the oppressed. The Catholic Church,
       which has lost 3 million members over the last decade, has seen
       its hold on the U.S. population fall to 21 percent from 24.
       
       Mainline seminaries and divinity schools have been merging or
       closing, and enrollment at such schools has declined by 24
       percent in the last decade. Andover-Newton, founded in 1807,
       recently shut down. Lutheran Theological Seminary at Gettysburg,
       Pa., and Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia plan to
       merge. Union Theological Seminary, where black liberation,
       feminist, womanist and queer theologies have their roots,
       appears to be on the verge of selling “air space” to a developer
       to construct a luxury 35-to-40-story condominium building on its
       campus. General Theological Seminary in New York City, a school
       founded in 1817, has sold much of its property to developers,
       and it ended tenure for its faculty after the professors went
       out on strike to demand the removal of Dean and President Kurt
       Dunkle. Dunkle, who epitomizes the infusion of corporatism into
       the church, worked for many years as a lawyer doing commercial
       litigation before being ordained.
       “What doomed General Seminary was not just financial
       mismanagement, but unethical leadership,” Rob Stephens, a
       third-year student for the ministry at Union and part of a
       student movement fighting Union’s building project, said when I
       spoke with him by phone. “That is what made the faculty walk
       out. The Union administration, board of trustees and all of us
       need to learn this lesson and put a halt to the project.
       The Union administration has said that Union, by building this
       luxury condominium, was being as bold as the original founders.
       This is one thing I can agree on. The original founders
       envisioned a place for privileged, white men. The original
       founders called abolitionism ‘fanaticism.’ The founders’ values
       won’t get us through this storm. Union is bigger than the
       administration and board. Union should be for all God’s people.
       If built, this luxury condominium would be a middle finger to
       Harlem. It would be a middle finger to faith-based social
       movements.
       “This seminary has turned Black Lives Matter into a commodity,”
       he went on. “They sell this campus as being allied with Black
       Lives Matter and other social justice movements. But if we are
       readers of the Bible, we know that saying one thing and doing
       another leads to internal combustion. Inconsistency of values
       and actions can only lead to failure. As a seminary community,
       how can we have more faith in an unstable housing market than in
       the Gospel? You can’t reconcile luxury condominiums built by an
       anti-union contractor and no affordable housing with the Gospel
       of Jesus. This is another example of mainline Christianity
       casting their lot with capitalism instead of community. When
       will we learn?”
       The self-identified religious institutions that thrive preach
       the perverted  “prosperity gospel,” the message that magic Jesus
       will make you rich, respected and powerful if you believe in
       him. Jesus, they claim, is an American capitalist, bigot and
       ardent imperialist.
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       >:( These sects selectively lift passages from the Bible to
       justify the unjustifiable, including homophobia, war, racism
       against Muslims, and the death penalty. Yet there are more
       students—2,067—at the evangelical Gordon-Conwell Theological
       Seminary alone than at the divinity schools and seminaries of
       Yale, Harvard, Union, Vanderbilt and Chicago, whose combined
       enrollment is 1,537.
       The doctrine these sects preach is Christian heresy. The
       Christian faith—as in the 1930s under Germany’s pro-Nazi
       Christian church—is being distorted to sanctify nationalism,
       unregulated capitalism and militarism. The mainstream church,
       which refuses to denounce these heretics as heretics, a decision
       made in the name of tolerance, tacitly gives these sects
       credibility and squanders the prophetic voice of the church.
       Kevin Kruse in his book “One Nation Under God: How Corporate
       America Invented Christian America” details how industrialists
       in the 1930s and 1940s poured money and resources into an effort
       to silence the social witness of the mainstream church, which
       was home to many radicals, socialists and proponents of the New
       Deal. These corporatists promoted and funded a brand of
       Christianity—which is today dominant—that conflates faith with
       free enterprise and American exceptionalism. The rich are rich,
       this creed goes, not because they are greedy or privileged, not
       because they use their power to their own advantage, not because
       they oppress the poor and the vulnerable, but because they are
       blessed.
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       And if we have enough faith, this heretical form of Christianity
       claims, God will bless the rest of us
       too.
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       You don’t need to spend three years at Harvard Divinity School
       as I did to figure that out.
       Full article:
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       Agelbert NOTE:
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       >  "The mainline churches, by which we mean white denominations,
       are responsible for many of our greatest social ills, ..."
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       AGREED.
       And they, like the "greed is good" bastards that corrupted this
       country, began their descent into irrelevancy and chaos when
       they forgot that respect for all life, not just human life, is a
       sine qua non REQUIREMENT for the perpetuation of a tool making,
       self aware species.
       Although It certainly was part of the Christian Gospel before
       the corporate fascists corrupted it, you don't need to read it
       in the Holy Scripture to know it is true.
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: January 31, 2016, 6:05 pm
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       [center]Wise Advice from Webster Tarpley
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       [center]
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       Tax Wall Street Party Calls on Iowa and New Hampshire to Stop
       Fascist Trump at All Costs; Democrats Should Hold Their Noses
       and Vote for Bernie Sanders to Keep Primaries and Convention
       Open
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: November 24, 2016, 12:14 pm
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       Agelbert REMINDER to those who will be "offended" (because they
       are supporters of the President Elect) by the hard truths stated
       in the article below:
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       TOPICS: Democracy & Government
       TAGS: 2016 election, donald trump, hillary clinton, media
       criticism
       Democracy & Government
       [center]Farewell, America
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       No matter how the rest of the world looked at us on Nov. 7, they
       will now look at us differently.
       By Neal Gabler | November 10, 2016
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       [center]The sun sets behind the Jefferson Memorial in
       Washington. (Photo By Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call)[/center]
       America died on Nov. 8, 2016, not with a bang or a whimper, but
       at its own hand via electoral suicide. We the people chose a man
       who has shredded our values, our morals, our compassion, our
       tolerance, our decency, our sense of common purpose, our very
       identity — all the things that, however tenuously, made a nation
       out of a country.
       Whatever place we now live in is not the same place it was on
       Nov. 7. No matter how the rest of the world looked at us on Nov.
       7, they will now look at us differently. We are likely to be a
       pariah country. And we are lost for it. As I surveyed the ruin
       of that country this gray Wednesday morning, I found weary
       consolation in W.H. Auden’s poem, September 1, 1939, which
       concludes:
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       --- Quote ---
       > BY Neal Gabler | November 8, 2016
       >
       > “Defenseless under the night
       > Our world in stupor lies;
       > Yet, dotted everywhere,
       > Ironic points of light
       > Flash out wherever the Just
       > Exchange their messages:
       > May I, composed like them
       > Of Eros and of dust,
       > Beleaguered by the same
       > Negation and despair,
       > Show an affirming flame.”
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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       I hunt for that affirming flame.
       This generally has been called the “hate election” because
       everyone professed to hate both candidates. It turned out to be
       the hate election because, and let’s not mince words, of the
       hatefulness of the electorate. In the years to come, we will
       brace for the violence, the anger, the racism, the misogyny, the
       xenophobia, the nativism, the white sense of grievance that will
       undoubtedly be unleashed now that we have destroyed the values
       that have bound us.
       [center]
       --- Quote ---
       > We all knew these hatreds lurked under the thinnest veneer of
       civility. That civility finally is gone.
       --- End Quote ---
       [/center]
       We all knew these hatreds lurked under the thinnest veneer of
       civility. That civility finally is gone. In its absence, we may
       realize just how imperative that politesse was. It is the way we
       managed to coexist.
       If there is a single sentence that characterizes the election,
       it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.” That may be what
       is so terrifying. Who knew that so many tens of millions of
       white Americans were thinking unconscionable things about their
       fellow Americans? Who knew that tens of millions of white men
       felt so emasculated by women and challenged by minorities? Who
       knew that after years of seeming progress on race and gender,
       tens of millions of white Americans lived in seething
       resentment, waiting for a demagogue to arrive who would
       legitimize their worst selves and channel them into political
       power? Perhaps we had been living in a fool’s paradise. Now we
       aren’t.
       This country has survived a civil war, two world wars, and a
       great depression. There are many who say we will survive this,
       too. Maybe we will, but we won’t survive unscathed. We know too
       much about each other to heal. No more can we pretend that we
       are exceptional or good or progressive or united. We are none of
       those things. Nor can we pretend that democracy works and that
       elections have more or less happy endings. Democracy only
       functions when its participants abide by certain conventions,
       certain codes of conduct and a respect for the process.
       [center]
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       > No more can we pretend that we are exceptional or good or
       progressive or united. We are none of those things.
       --- End Quote ---
       [/center]
       The virus that kills democracy is extremism because extremism
       disables those codes. Republicans have disrespected the process
       for decades. They have regarded any Democratic president as
       illegitimate. They have proudly boasted of preventing popularly
       elected Democrats from effecting policy and have asserted that
       only Republicans have the right to determine the nation’s
       course. They have worked tirelessly to make sure that the
       government cannot govern and to redefine the purpose of
       government as prevention rather than effectuation. In short,
       they haven’t believed in democracy for a long time, and the
       media never called them out on it.
       Democracy can’t cope with extremism. Only violence and time can
       defeat it. The first is unacceptable, the second takes too long.
       Though Trump is an extremist, I have a feeling that he will be a
       very popular president and one likely to be re-elected by a
       substantial margin, no matter what he does or fails to do.
       That’s because ever since the days of Ronald Reagan, rhetoric
       has obviated action, speechifying has superseded governing.
       Trump
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       /> was absolutely correct when he bragged that he could shoot
       someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and his supporters
       wouldn’t care. It was a dictator’s ugly vaunt
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       but one that
       recognized this election never was about policy or economics or
       the “right path/wrong path,” or even values. It was about
       venting. So long as Trump vented their grievances, his all-white
       supporters didn’t care about anything else. He is smart enough
       to know that won’t change in the presidency. In fact, it is only
       likely to intensify. White America, Trump’s America, just wants
       to hear its anger bellowed. This is one time when the Bully
       Pulpit will be literal.
       The media can’t be let off the hook for enabling an
       authoritarian to get to the White House. Long before he
       considered a presidential run, he was a media creation — a
       regular in the gossip pages, a photo on magazine covers, the
       bankrupt (morally and otherwise) mogul who hired and fired on
       The Apprentice. When he ran, the media treated him not as a
       candidate, but as a celebrity, and so treated him differently
       from ordinary pols. The media gave him free publicity, trumpeted
       his shenanigans, blasted out his tweets, allowed him to phone in
       his interviews, fell into his traps and generally kowtowed until
       they suddenly discovered that this joke could actually become
       president.
       Just as Trump has shredded our values, our nation and our
       democracy, he has shredded the media. In this, as in his
       politics, he is only the latest avatar of a process that began
       long before his candidacy. Just as the sainted Ronald Reagan
       created an unbridgeable chasm between rich and poor that the
       Republicans would later exploit against Democrats, conservatives
       delegitimized mainstream journalism so that they could fill the
       vacuum.
       [center]
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       > With Trump’s election, I think that the ideal of an objective,
       truthful journalism is dead, never to be revived.
       --- End Quote ---
       [/center]
       Retiring conservative talk show host Charlie Sykes complained
       that after years of bashing from the right wing, the mainstream
       media no longer could perform their function as reporters,
       observers, fact dispensers, and even truth tellers, and he said
       we needed them. Like Goebbels before them, conservatives
       understood that they had to create their own facts, their own
       truths, their own reality. They have done so, and in so doing
       effectively destroyed the very idea of objectivity. Trump can
       lie constantly only because white America has accepted an
       Orwellian sense of truth — the truth pulled inside out.
       With Trump’s election, I think that the ideal of an objective,
       truthful journalism is dead, never to be revived. Like Nixon and
       Sarah Palin before him, Trump ran against the media,
       boomeranging off the public’s contempt for the press. He ran
       against what he regarded as media elitism and bias, and he ran
       on the idea that the press disdained working-class white
       America. Among the many now-widening divides in the country,
       this is a big one, the divide between the media and
       working-class whites, because it creates a Wild West of
       information – a media ecology in which nothing can be believed
       except what you already believe.
       With the mainstream media so delegitimized — a delegitimization
       for which they bear a good deal of blame, not having had the
       courage to take on lies and expose false equivalencies — they
       have very little role to play going forward in our politics. I
       suspect most of them will surrender to Trumpism — if they were
       able to normalize Trump as a candidate, they will no doubt
       normalize him as president.
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       Cable news may even welcome him as a continuous entertainment
       and ratings booster. And in any case, like Reagan, he is
       bulletproof. The media cannot touch him, even if they wanted to.
       Presumably, there will be some courageous guerillas in the
       mainstream press, a kind of Resistance, who will try to
       fact-check him. But there will be few of them, and they will be
       whistling in the wind. Trump, like all dictators, is his own
       truth.
       What’s more, Trump already has promised to take his war on the
       press into courtrooms and the halls of Congress. He wants to
       loosen libel protections, and he has threatened Washington Post
       owner Jeff Bezos of Amazon with an antitrust suit. Individual
       journalists have reason to fear him as well. He has already
       singled out NBC’s Katy Tur, perhaps the best of the television
       reporters, so that she needed the Secret Service to escort her
       from one of his rallies. Jewish journalists who have criticized
       Trump have been subjected to vicious anti-Semitism and
       intimidation from the alt-right. For the press, this is likely
       to be the new normal in an America in which white supremacists,
       neo-Nazi militias, racists, sexists, homophobes and anti-Semites
       have been legitimized by a new president who “says what I’m
       thinking.” It will be open season.
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       This converts the media from reporters to targets, and they have
       little recourse. Still, if anyone points the way forward, it may
       be New York Times columnist David Brooks. Brooks is no paragon.
       He always had seemed to willfully neglect modern Republicanism’s
       incipient fascism (now no longer incipient), and he was an
       apologist for conservative self-enrichment and bigotry. But this
       campaign season, Brooks pretty much dispensed with politics. He
       seemed to have arrived at the conclusion that no good could
       possibly come of any of this and retreated into spirituality.
       What Brooks promoted were values of mutual respect, a bolder
       sense of civic engagement, an emphasis on community and
       neighborhood, and overall a belief in trickle-up decency rather
       than trickle-down economics. He is not hopeful, but he hasn’t
       lost all hope.
       For those of us now languishing in despair, this may be a
       prescription for rejuvenation. We have lost the country, but by
       refocusing, we may have gained our own little patch of the world
       and, more granularly, our own family. For journalists, Brooks
       may show how political reporting, which, as I said, is likely to
       be irrelevant in the Trump age, might yield to a broader moral
       context in which one considers the effect that policy, strategy
       and governance have not only on our physical and economic
       well-being but also on our spiritual well-being. In a society
       that is likely to be fractious and odious, we need a national
       conversation on values. The media could help start it.
       But the disempowered media may have one more role to fill: They
       must bear witness. Many years from now, future generations will
       need to know what happened to us and how it happened. They will
       need to know how disgruntled white Americans, full of
       self-righteous indignation, found a way to take back a country
       they felt they were entitled to and which they believed had been
       lost. They will need to know about the ugliness and evil that
       destroyed us as a nation after great men like Lincoln and
       Roosevelt guided us through  previous crises and kept our values
       intact. They will need to know, and they will need a vigorous,
       engaged, moral media to tell them. They will also need us.
       We are not living for ourselves anymore in this country. Now we
       are living for history.
       Neal Gabler is an author of five books and the recipient of two
       LA Times Book Prizes, Time magazine's non-fiction book of the
       year, USA Today's biography of the year and other awards. He is
       also a senior fellow at The Norman Lear Center at the University
       of Southern California, and is currently writing a biography of
       Sen. Edward Kennedy.
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       Agelbert NOTE: Great article, but, unlike the author, many
       millions of Americans, like myself, KNEW about this suicidal
       trajectory, of which the ubiquitous racism is but one symptom of
       America's moral decay.
       Neal Gabler is a good man of principle. He is clear on what is
       right and what is wrong. However, as the reality of the WAY
       things REALLY are in the USA struck him like a kick in the
       groin, Neal Gabler's surprise is evidence that he was a victim
       of white privileged liberal wishful thinking. None of the
       following was a surprise to me and millions of other Americans
       of mixed ancestry that know the score.
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       > If there is a single sentence that characterizes the election,
       it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.” That may be what
       is so terrifying. Who knew that so many tens of millions of
       white Americans were thinking unconscionable things about their
       fellow Americans? Who knew that tens of millions of white men
       felt so emasculated by women and challenged by minorities? Who
       knew that after years of seeming progress on race and gender,
       tens of millions of white Americans lived in seething
       resentment, waiting for a demagogue to arrive who would
       legitimize their worst selves and channel them into political
       power? Perhaps we had been living in a fool’s paradise. Now we
       aren’t.
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       I have been warning about it to deaf ears for over a decade.
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       Also, unlike Neal Gabler, I dated the final nail in the coffin
       of American Democracy much earlier than this election.
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       I dated it to when THIS GUY had the nomination for VP stolen
       from him so the Truman party hack could do the bidding of the
       M.I.C. when Roosevelt died.
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       But, you know what? The abysmally stupid and morally corruptive
       embrace of greed, xenophobia and racism is the LEAST of our
       worries as a people in this perfect storm of Wall Street 'dial a
       reality' that so many fools and knaves wish to celebrate.
       [move]Below please find, America TODAY:[/move]
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       > Like Goebbels before them, conservatives understood that they
       had to create their own facts, their own truths, their own
       reality. They have done so, and in so doing effectively
       destroyed the very idea of objectivity. Trump can lie constantly
       only because white America has accepted an Orwellian sense of
       truth — the truth pulled inside out.
       --- End Quote ---
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       [move][size=18pt]BUT, THIS is America in the NEAR FUTURE:[/move]
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: December 2, 2016, 12:52 pm
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       > They
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       /> cherry-picked anecdotes and caricatured the subjects of their
       criticism.
       >
       > They complained that other people were creating and enforcing
       speech codes, while at the same time attempting to enforce their
       own speech codes.
       --- End Quote ---
       [center]Political correctness: how the right invented a phantom
       enemy
       [/center]
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       For 25 years, invoking this vague and ever-shifting nemesis has
       been a favourite tactic of the right
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       by Moira Weigel
       SNIPPET 1:
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       > In truth, these crusaders against political correctness
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       />were every bit as political as their opponents.
       >
       > As Jane Mayer documents in her book, Dark Money: the Hidden
       History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical
       Right, Bloom and D’Souza were funded by networks of conservative
       donors – particularly the Koch, Olin and Scaife families – who
       had spent the 1980s building programmes that they hoped would
       create a new “counter-intelligentsia”.
       --- End Quote ---
       SNIPPET 2:
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       > Trump has also continued to cry PC in response to criticism.
       When an interviewer from Politico asked a Trump transition team
       member why Trump was appointing so many lobbyists and political
       insiders, despite having pledged to “drain the swamp” of them,
       the source said that “one of the most refreshing parts of … the
       whole Trump style
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       that he does not care about political correctness.”
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       > Apparently it would have been politically correct to hold him
       to his campaign promises.
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
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       Date: December 16, 2016, 1:29 pm
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       >
       > Joshua Scheer:
       > We're definitely going to want to talk about that. We're also
       going to talk about Jeffrey Sterling who is another
       whistleblower who is still in prison. I believe he is the, at
       his time, was the fifth person used in history the Espionage Act
       by President Obama. I want to talk about this intelligence
       briefing because the president-elect said on Fox News this
       Sunday, he's a pretty smart guy. We've discussed it in brief.
       >
       > I want to let our listeners know what this president
       intelligence checklist was. It started with Kennedy in '61. It
       was typewritten. It's stamped for president only. It has gone
       through, obviously, technological innovation. Obama gets it on
       an iPad, and Trump has kind of said, "I'll get it when anything
       is new. It'll go through Mike Pence. It'll go through my
       generals." He said, this is his quote, "If something should
       change from this point, immediately call me. I'm available at
       one-minute's notice, but eight years, I don't need that. If
       something should change, let us know." Talk about this, because
       I'm sure you've been involved in briefing the president and
       certainly writing these reports.
       >
       > John Kiriakou:
       > Sure.
       >
       >
       > Joshua Scheer:
       > How important are they? Some of the intelligence community,
       one David Bass, I'm thinking, worked for the-
       >
       >
       > John Kiriakou:
       > Priess.
       >
       >
       > Joshua Scheer:
       > Beast, yes, worked for the State Department, worked for Bush
       and Clinton as a CIA intelligence officer and talks about how
       important it is to be informed, and that you're making these
       decisions and you want to know all the information. Talk about
       this a little bit, about the president-elect rejecting these
       intelligence reports.
       >
       >
       > John Kiriakou:
       > Yeah, we've never had a president since Kennedy who just
       outrightly rejected his intelligence briefings. Bill Clinton
       famously was not briefed by his PDB briefer. PDB is President's
       Daily Brief, but what the briefer would do is that he would go
       to the White House every morning at 7 a.m. and drop it off, and
       Clinton would read it at his leisure. He was only briefed in
       person twice during his presidency, but Gore was briefed six
       days a week. Clinton read the briefing later in the day, and so
       he was informed.
       >
       > Now, each day's PDB is specifically tailored to the president
       and to his interests, and so what Trump is reading right now, or
       what Trump would be reading if he were being briefed is really
       Obama's briefing. Obama has been steeped in these issues for
       eight years. I can see how they might seem a little too
       tactical, too detailed for Trump, but that's not just what Trump
       said. He didn't say they were too detailed and too tactical. He
       said he was a smart guy already and he didn't need to be
       briefed. That's a mistake, unless he is going to just wholesale
       turnover foreign and intelligence policy to Mike Pence. If Mike
       Pence is going to be the de facto president on these issues,
       then okay, I guess there is really no reason to brief Trump. If
       Trump is going to still have the final word on foreign defense
       and intelligence policy, I think this is a big mistake.
       >
       >
       > Joshua Scheer:
       > Yeah, go on on that a little bit. Obviously, Mike Pence, this
       guy ... Trump is acting as if this is not even a job. This is
       something where it's one of the many things he will be doing,
       certainly has given Pence a lot of power, which is scary. Jeremy
       Scahill has written about this de facto Christian fascist in
       power. There has been others who have written about that. What
       do you make of this? I mean, you've obviously followed politics
       a long time. Certainly, we've talked about this earlier in the
       interview, the CIA is probably scared about this, but is to be
       expected both on ... Obviously, we all have other people on to
       talk about, the EPA.
       >
       > We're talking about scared agencies. The EPA right now is ...
       The Department of Energy, I'm sorry, is hiding people's names
       who have worked on climate science. They're not codifying the
       data they have gathered over a number of years to try to say
       that US States like California saying they're going on alone on
       immigration, on climate change. I mean, this is a really
       tumultuous time for everybody. I mean, we talked about it a
       little bit earlier, but I can't imagine that this is ... I mean,
       this must be the most experience you've ever seen, right?
       >
       >
       > John Kiriakou:
       > Yeah, I've never seen anything like this, and I've been close
       to several presidents from my CIA time. Even my wife was a
       senior CIA officer and has been even closer in some cases to
       presidents than have, and he's never seen anything like this
       either. I had dinner with a great friend of mine on Saturday
       night. He was my first boss at the CIA, and he goes back to the
       Carter administration, and he was of the opinion that this is
       utterly unprecedented. What makes is so dangerous is that this
       is not a weak president giving a strong president the authority
       to handle intelligence policy. This is a strongman who has
       surrounded himself with generals who is giving a weak vice
       president the authority to lead intelligence policy.
       >
       > He said, "It's a disaster waiting to happen," and he feared
       that the only time the American people are going to understand
       what a terrible mistake this is, is when we're the victims of a
       terrorist attack on American soil, and people are going to want
       to know why the president wasn't up on this, why the president
       didn't order countermeasures, why the president dropped the
       ball. I fear that's the direction we're going in.
       >
       >
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       Listen to or read the full interview transcript:
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
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       Date: December 22, 2016, 1:51 pm
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       [center]War Culture, Militarism and Racist Violence Under Trump
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       Posted on Dec 19, 2016
       By Henry A. Giroux / Truthout
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
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       Date: March 6, 2017, 7:21 pm
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       [center]Wilkerson: Trump's New National Security Advisor
       Believes in Empire, More Realpolitik than Flynn [/center]
       Col. Lawrence Wilkerson says General H.R. McMaster might be more
       restrained about military action, but will support massive
       budget increase to military and the imperial mission.
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       Agelbert NOTE: I disagree with Col. Lawrence Wilkerson's belief
       (and hope) that Trump doesn't actually want to use the military;
       he does. As Trump's popularity declines, he will most likely try
       to distract the people from his domestic fascist mayhem with
       more war.
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: March 7, 2017, 5:28 pm
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       [center]Empire Files: Chris Hedges & Abby Martin
       -[color=maroon][b]Trump, Fascism & the
       Christian
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       Published on Feb 27, 2017
       For the first time in modern history, a fringe wing of Christian
       extremists have obtained the highest seats of power in the US
       government—from Mike Pence to Betsy DeVos.
       This new development is coupled with the emergence of the Alt
       Right, the Trump movement, and the rise of fascist movements
       abroad.
       Renowned journalist and author Chris Hedges has embedded himself
       in what he calls “Christianized Fascism” and warns that this is
       the biggest danger we face under Trump.
       [size=12pt][b]Agelbert NOTE: The Apostate Christian Church in
       the USA is "Christian" in name only. If Pruitt and the other
       crooks and liars on the Trump Team (along with Trump himself)
       are Christians, Hitler was a saint. These Trump cretins give
       Christianity a black eye!
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       > 2 Timothy Chapter 3 King James Version (KJV)
       >
       > 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall
       come.
       >
       > 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,
       boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents,
       unthankful, unholy,
       >
       > 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,
       incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
       >
       > 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than
       lovers of God;
       >
       > 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:
       [I]from such turn away.[/I]
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: June 17, 2017, 5:52 pm
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       > George Frederick Baer (September 26, 1842 – April 26, 1914)
       was an American lawyer who was the President of the Philadelphia
       and Reading Railroad and spokesman for the owners during the
       Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.
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       [move]"These men don't suffer. Why, hell, half of them don't
       even speak English!" George Frederick Baer[/move]
       Published on May 4, 2017
       [center]A bill to rob Americans of health care is barbaric and
       intolerable[/center]
       [center]
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       The Shame and Cruelty of the GOP | The Resistance with Keith
       Olbermann | GQ
       Agelbert NOTE: Keith hopes George Frederick Baer is in a certain
       place, which he hopes exists.
       Well, I know it exists. Below, please find, a picture of Mr.
       Baer in his present abode:
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       Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: June 28, 2017, 9:57 pm
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       [center]SCOTUS is Throwing Us into Jefferson's Nightmare
       (w/guest Rev. Barry Lynn)[/center]
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       June 27, 2017
       Thom sits down with guest Reverend Barry W. Lynn (Executive
       Director - Americans United for Separation of Church and State)
       to talk about the recent Supreme Court decisions that reflect
       the increasing politicization of religious organizations.
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