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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: November 28, 2014, 8:58 pm
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Part 2 of Vladimir Putin: Traitor to the New World Order
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The planet polluting elite are DESPERATE to start a World War.
>:(
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: December 6, 2014, 11:30 pm
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September 11, 2001 was the day the last piece needed to convert
the USA into a Fascist Police State was put into place. :(
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: December 6, 2014, 11:43 pm
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Loose Change THIRD EDITION! The first ten minutes are EXCELLENT!
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: December 25, 2014, 5:44 pm
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Peace on Earth
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"There is no peace on earth," I said,
"For hate is strong and mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good will to men."[/font] [/quote]
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: December 25, 2014, 7:15 pm
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Homo Sapiens: A stubborn, stiff necked species that REFUSES TO
LEARN. :'(
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: December 27, 2014, 8:09 pm
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THE STORY OF THE YEAR 2014
The failure of the NEOCONs to get WWIII started through the fun
and mayhem in Syria, the Ukraine (MH17) and the recent cromnibus
"appropriations" to BUY oil and gas infrastructure in the
Ukraine and FUND propaganda against the Russians there too is
THE story of the YEAR because it ties all the loose and rather
desperate "ends" the fascists are up to in their Machiavellian
zeal to justify WHATEVER to finish the job of obtaining the Apex
Predator "brave new"ONE world gooberment of fossil fuel fascism.
The fact that this blatant and barbaric bullshit has been so
brazen has actually united the BRICS in a currency battle
against the dollar.
That is another blow to the NEO-Liberal EVOLUTIONARY DEAD END
Predators 'R' US. We should have been in full blown war hysteria
right now. If THAT had happened, the price of oil WOULD NOT have
tanked. The WAR was part of saving fossil fueldom's bottom line!
There are several historical examples of a "war" showing up
RIGHT WHEN fossil fueldom NEEDED ONE.
Also, the HUGE effects of climate disruption making the
Renewable Energy transition more imperative in the public's eyes
would have been swept under the SUICIDAL Main Stream Media rug.
Our ASS is hanging by a thread but DOOM has been postponed
BECAUSE the WAR these bastards wanted DID NOT HAPPEN.
Of course, they will keep trying :P >:(. But it gets more
expensive for them EVERY DAY. ;D
People are absolutely DISGUSTED with our government. And I DON'T
mean just people like us.
Just check out the comments on a Ralph Nader Article at
Counterpunch. See the HUGE number of up votes for conservatives,
no less, that say we have a fascist government and have lost our
freedom! :o
Sure, they think that we can "go back" to when we had freedom.
LOL! But the point is people REALLY are pissed. This is a huge
obstacle for the Bernays style government Modus Operandi for
obtaining a Causus Belli scam. GOOD! ;D
The top guy on their hit list is a tough cookie. They had better
bring a sandwich if they are going to take him on.
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Russia's leader pets a Leopard. The cameraman got a good scare!
:o ;D
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AND NOW FOR A GREAT CAT FIGHT! :D :
CNN Edits Out RT Host’s Nasty (Agelbert note: but truthful!)
On-Air Dispute with Christiane Amanpour
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by Andrew Kirell | 3:23 pm, November 24th, 2014
Russia’s state-funded cable news channel is taking aim at CNN
for inviting an RT host to discuss Kremlin politics but editing
out her fierce criticisms of the American cable outlet.
In the Know host Anissa Naouai appeared last week on Christiane
Amanpour‘s CNN International nightly talk show to defend her
network against accusations that it is part of Russian President
Vladimir Putin‘s “propaganda war.” The conversation apparently
took a drastic turn for the worse when the guest went after the
host’s personal connections to the U.S. Department of State.
Ultimately, Amanpour told Naouai, the most contentious bits were
unworthy of airtime and would certainly be edited out. In
response to the edits, RT posted video of its half of Naouai’s
satellite feed, showing her answers that were omitted from the
final product. CNN posted the full transcript to its website in
the interest of transparency; RT did the same.
To be clear: News outlets routinely edit pre-taped interviews —
normally for timing purposes, but also to cut down on
redundancies or rambling questions/answers — and so this is not
at all an ethical scandal. As a pre-taped show, Amanpour makes
its guests aware that they will be edited down for time. This
particular interview, as you’ll see in a moment, happened to go
very long.
But considering edits are a common practice in the news
business, this story provides a fascinating glimpse into how and
why words get left on the cutting room floor.
And when you compare the unedited clips to what actually aired
on CNN, you’ll notice RT is correct about one thing: Most of
Naouai’s direct criticism of the American network and its host
were edited out for broadcast. At one point in the unedited
transcript, Amanpour herself makes clear to Naouai that the
personal attacks render some of the footage unusable for TV.
The first tense moment removed entirely from broadcast occurred
when Amanpour suggested to the other guest, anti-Putin
politician Mikhail Kasyanov, that Naouai admitted RT perhaps
exaggerates the threat of neo-Nazism in Ukraine:
AMANPOUR: Is it more than exaggeration? And as such, is it a
fair interpretation of what’s going on and what are the
consequences?
KASYANOV: That’s not –
NAOUAI: I didn’t admit that it was an exaggeration. I said who
are we to say that it’s an exaggeration as non-Russians. 30
millions of them were killed in World War II. I said, “Who are
we to say it’s an exaggeration?” That’s what I said exactly.
AMANPOUR: No, you didn’t say that. You said they may – that
might be an exaggeration, but then who are we to say that fears
are exaggerated? I’ve got that on record. So don’t worry about
it. That’s going to be played.
NAOUAI: Yes, I didn’t admit that it was an exaggeration.
AMANPOUR: All right. But you actually did and I’ll play it and
you can dispute it afterwards if you like. But I will play it
and it’s not a problem. It’s what you said.
Later in the interview, Amanpour asked Nauouai about another
Russian channel’s error in covering the Malaysia Airlines Flight
17 tragedy. The entire passage was edited out, but you can sense
the conversation getting more strained as the RT host began to
rattle off examples of CNN’s own errors:
NAOUAI: I have to point out that I don’t represent the Russian
media, but RT. I know the image you’re talking about, of course.
It should be pointed out also that that image was on the
Internet for quite a couple of months – unfortunately this
channel took the bait. They didn’t verify it. We did, of course.
That’s why we didn’t show it. But to sort of condemn the First
Channel for mistakes that we’ve all make –- and I remember very
well Jim Clancy of CNN showing a video in Donetsk in May of this
year of a supposed helicopter being downed by these anti-Kiev
fighters. We went online; we checked the video. The video was
from Syria. We never even saw a retraction from CNN. So it’s a
little difficult to judge…
And the discussion truly went off the rails when Naouai brazenly
accused Amanpour of being a state propagandist herself.
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out this bitingly personal exchange below, from right after the
host asked Naouai if it’s “healthy” for Russian audiences to get
only one view from RT. It gets ugly:
NAOUAI: …[I]t’s an absurd question coming from someone that’s
propagated the line of the State Department for over 15 years. I
mean, it’s absolutely absurd.
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AMANPOUR: Well, are you talking to me?
NAOUAI: Yes. Absolutely I’m talking to you. Who else would I be
talking to?
AMANPOUR: Are you talking to me?
NAOUAI: Absolutely.
AMANPOUR: You’ve got to be kidding me.
NAOUAI: You’ve propagated the line of the State Department for
over 15 years, starting with Yugoslavia and all the way into
Syria. And now you’re doing it for Ukraine, essentially.
Absolutely, I’m talking to you.
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AMANPOUR: Oh, my goodness.
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NAOUAI: I’ve seen lots of your reports and in not one report
where you find you questioning the United States government and
their policy. And we, with our Russian propaganda, question
those arms to the FSA, question those arms to al-Nusra and other
leagues. And now today we have ISIS.
Again, this was all removed from broadcast. According to
transcripts, Amanpour began scolding her guest for not having an
“adult discussion,” but Naouai simply responded that she’d like
for CNN’s audience to be made aware of their host’s background.
And that’s when the RT host invoked Amanpour’s husband, former
State Department official James Rubin:
AMANPOUR: They are aware of [my past work], which is why they’ve
been watching me for a long time. But listen to me, I would like
you seriously…
NAOUAI: I’m glad they do, and I’m sure they know who James Rubin
is, I’m sure they watch your work in Yugoslavia.
AMANPOUR: …as an act of research and as an act of education, go
back and find all my work on Yugoslavia and all my work on Syria
and match that with the policy of the United States government
and furthermore, go back and watch what launched me and that was
a to-and-fro with President Clinton challenging his policy on
Bosnia and Yugoslavia. So Anissa, listen, I have respected you
but I really don’t think that you should be doing this to me, of
all people, on this – on this broadcast and on this satellite
link. And you’re wrong. And I challenge you to go back…
NAOUAI: Yes, how dare someone tell CNN to check who their
sponsors are, what governments they are working with!
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AMANPOUR: No! No!
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NAOUAI: How dare someone come on CNN and say that! ;D
AMANPOUR: No! Hey, excuse me, no, no, no, you just said whatever
you wanted to say. When you become ad hominem to me, that’s a
problem, because you’re not doing it from a basis of knowledge.
NAOUAI: Well, let your viewers decide, Christiane. I think
that’s the fairest way out of this debate.
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Amanpour insisted that Naouai watch her antagonistic 1994
interview with then-President Clinton before making such
assertions, and informed her guest: “You can be sure I’m not
putting this on the air, Anissa. It’s a personal attack.”
Naouai said she is familiar with the interview and accused
Amanpour of agitating for war in Kosovo.
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The CNN host finally ended it on this note, including an
acknowledgement of the fact that she’ll have to provide a polite
goodbye for the edited version of the interview:
AMANPOUR: Anissa, come on; you’ve lost me, babe. Thank you very
much. Thank you very much indeed. I really appreciate it. I’m
sorry; I thought we could have an adult ::) discussion. And we
can’t.
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Thank you so
much. Alright. Now I have to pretend to thank you.
Watch the edited interview as it aired on CNN below (at link).
THEN watch the truth filled UNEDITED
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RT aired (at link):
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Agelbert NOTE: CNN is part of the USA fascist propaganda
machinery. Russia is no saint be they are spot on here.
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: December 28, 2014, 3:44 pm
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date=1419754658]
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date=1419752371]
IF we STOPPED supporting the system of consumerism, materialism,
and hedonism, the system would DIE. They could print all the
money in the world and if we (or about 40% - that's all we would
need to bring the bastards to their knees) REFUSED to eat
ANYTHING but what we absolutely HAD to have to get by (and less
if they jacked up the price!) and REFUSED to use energy for
ANYTHING except the bare necessities and ALL lived the
MINIMALIST life style REFUSING to have cable, REFUSING to change
our clothes more than once a month (so we wouldn't use as much
energy washing and soap to wash with), REFUSING to travel except
to get food and go to work (and then WALKING or riding a bike as
often as possible) and REFUSING to work ANYWHERE that
contributes to FEED TPTB, they would be FORCED to stop their
fucking wars, 24/7 dehumanizing of everything good about human
empathy, celebration of brutality and ruthlessness as a "Virtue"
of the "Apex Predator" or go to prison.
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Unfortunately, the likelihood of everyone simultaneously taking
a vow of poverty voluntarily is statistically close to ZERO.
However, there are fundamental thermodynamic reasons why money
will stop functioning as we move along here, so the poverty will
come to all including the Masters of the Universe.
Article Coming Soon to a Laptop Near You.
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RE,
The possibility of the near term extinction of Homo SAP is
closer to 100% without 40% of us adopting a (somewhat less
severe than a vow of poverty) Frugality is Freedom Minimalist
Mindset that WILL get Da "job" done.
I think the low probability of 40% getting with the Minimalist
program is, as low as it is, the only plan that has a ANY chance
of avoiding extinction. It's a Sophie's choice type thing but
the CFS math favors the MINIMALIST pain for the perpetuation of
the species gain.
It's harder for people like you with big bucks to see that
because, if you adopted a Minimalist Mindset, you would feel
deprived and less special in world that has taught you that
money, is not just the mark of success, it's USE in the SYSTEM
is the mark of intelligence. That is Wall Street brainwashing
baloney. But comfort is quite seductive, is it not? Are those
seduced by this "money must be put to work to make more money"
mindset not busy rationalizing away how they are supporting
fascism and pollution with their life style? That River in Egypt
is the Wall Street Bernays special that works a LOT BETTER to
ensure our comfortable suicide than the whip.
But I hear ya, good sir. You are a fairly astute student of
human nature. I have had numerous, but gentlemanly, discussions
with you about DAT. I have noted that you have a tendency to
view the baser condition reflex pattern (see yeast, bacteria,
ring circles and so on) as far more predictive of Dunbar number
PLUS any number above DAT Homo SAP behavior than cooperation,
empathy, caring (and so on, in a rather long, but usually
ignored by the Darwinists, list of sappy human traits that
Darwin himself claimed were ESSENTIAL to our survival as
species).
It is an established historical fact that most humans are more
altruistic than they are greedy. To judge the entire species by
the evolutionary dead end traits of the most vicious, arrogant,
mendacious, acquisitive and ambitious members that become
leaders is statistically INACCURATE. They ARE the NUMERICAL
minority.
You are adopting the Wall Street attitude of "leverage".
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extinction cliff because the sheep are JUST LIKE THE LEADERS
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and are
dominated (in numbers above the Dunbar number) by the same baser
emotions and condition reflex pattern of conscience free
predation as the leaders. That is just not so, RE.
But I admit I may be wrong and you may be right. But I will NOT
let you dance around the CERTAIN conclusion you MUST draw from
your analysis, study and conclusions about human behavior.
If you are right :(, then we are TOAST. There is NO HOPE
WHATSOEVER. We will go extinct. All your erudition and all your
intelligence and all you grasp of world economics along with
Steve from Virginia's plethora of graphs about this, that and
the other will do nothing to change this sad trajectory. You
would better serve Homo SAPdom, with our alleged terminal case
of the Dunbar limit dumbass, by writing about unicorns and
strawberry fields forever because that, at least, can make you
feel good while you wait for your ass to be grass.
All the horseshit from the "genius" at TBP (Quinn?) is just so
much methane. All the stats by the money minded monkey bean
counters who's graphs and self important screeds (that at least
98% of human beings don't read) won't meant SHIT.
There is NOWHERE TO RUN TO [s]if[/s] when the biosphere stops
supporting human life. The biosphere RUNS, not on tooth and claw
(that's a TINY subset of it!) but on trophic levels that EAT,
directly or indirectly, SUNLIGHT. The overwhelming biomass is
autotrophic (phototrophic). ALL the trophic levels above them
are TOAST if the autotrophs buy the farm. THAT is the
STATISTICAL REALITY of life on this planet.
Your proposal of a breakaway civilization of highly intelligent,
caring, cooperative and CFS Dunbar groups is a nice thought that
lacks the corner stone of a viable biosphere. No Viable
Biosphere = no brave new Dunbar group. That is the only math
that really matters. And that math takes all that talk about the
evolutionary "advantages" of the "apex predator" and makes it
look like the anthropocentric Wall Street wishful thinking that
it is. It's a fairy tale!
IT DON'T WORK DAT WAY! It NEVER has! Spencer made it up out of
whole, unscientific "cloth" (Herbert Spencer's new phrase
"survival of the fittest" alongside "natural selection" was
first published in the fifth edition of On the Origin of
Species, published in 1869.). You have bought that dog eat dog
fascist fairy tale HOOK, LINE and SINKER. You have extrapolated
that Wall Street world view to all of human history, past and
future, as the prevailing human condition.
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If Homo SAP is the "CEO" (i.e. the planetary biosphere's
executive) because we are the only self aware tool maker here,
the biosphere has a mental disease.
BUT, if the ones with mental disease are the pack of arrogant
greedball crazies that temporarily steered humanity into
suicidal behavior because MOST of humanity TRUSTED those lying
sacks of evolutionary dead end "apex predator" SHIT FOR BRAINS,
then the REAL evolutionary advantages of Homo SAP that include
caring over conquest, empathy, altruism and so on, will, through
peer pressure, not explosive violence, cure the Homo SAP disease
and put us back on the path of HARMONY with the other life forms
here.
Homo sapiens is a DERIVATIVE of autotrophic/phototrophic life
biomass, NOT the Lord of the MANOR!
In Closing, enjoy this fellow Doomer that, like you and I,
shares a realization that we are on the SURE path of Extinction
if we do not change our civilizational trajectory. ENJOY!
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Smarter Than Yeast?
Are humans smarter than yeast? We will know the answer all too
soon.
About This Blog
I call myself S. cerevisiae because I enjoy good beer and
because the more I observe the depletion of planetary resources
by humans I tend to agree that as a species we are not proving
to be smarter than yeast. This is my little corner of the
blogosphere where I will rant about whatever I need to vent
about, from the sorry-assed Minnesota Vikings to the even
sorrier-assed (is that a word?-who cares) politicians who fiddle
as the planet burns.
Hello NSA!
Greetings to my readers at the NSA! I've always assumed you were
reading all this stuff anyway so this weeks news is no surprise
to me. I remember being called an anti-American dirty hippie for
speaking out against the so-called Patriot Act a decade ago, now
the same ones who passed it are crying foul? The fourth
amendment has been gutted over the last thirty years, mostly
because of the war on (some) drugs, I don't remember a huge
right-wing outcry over that.
Privacy is so twentieth century.
But the collapse will render it all moot.
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
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Karpatok said, [quote]So am I, even if you can't see it. But
thank you anyway. This is all true AG and the Perps need to be
stopped and taken out. How do YOU propose it should and could be
done. And please spare us FAKE DEMOCRACY and "WORKING WITHIN
THE SYSTEM" The system is dead and the JUNTA and CABAL operate
for SATAN and the DEMIURGE OF DEATH. In such a demolished and
dumbed down apathetic society, what can be the WAY? PLEASE!
Karpatok[/quote]
These people are the problem:
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The solution IS NOT this:
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Although I admit it has a certain appeal. ;D But as a student
of history, you surely know that it just passes the buck to
another clever "king (or queen) of the hill" that then proceeds
to grow the tyranny cancer from the democratic beginnings. See
Yogi Berra and Deja vu all over again.
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The hippies had it right in the 1960's. It was a workable,
viable plan. That is why our gooberment stepped in and drugged
them left and right to give them a bad rep with "respectable"
people. The hippies were a HUGE threat to the MIC!
IF we STOPPED supporting the system of consumerism, materialism,
and hedonism, the system would DIE. They could print all the
money in the world and if we (or about 40% - that's all we would
need to bring the bastards to their knees) REFUSED to eat
ANYTHING but what we absolutely HAD to have to get by (and less
if they jacked up the price!) and REFUSED to use energy for
ANYTHING except the bare necessities and ALL lived the
MINIMALIST life style REFUSING to have cable, REFUSING to change
our clothes more than once a month (so we wouldn't use as much
energy washing and soap to wash with), REFUSING to travel except
to get food and go to work (and then WALKING or riding a bike as
often as possible) and REFUSING to work ANYWHERE that
contributes to FEED TPTB, they would be FORCED to stop their
****ing wars, 24/7 dehumanizing of everything good about human
empathy and celebration of brutality and ruthlessness as a
"Virtue" of the "Apex Predator" or go to prison.
If everybody VOLUNTARILY decides to be SUPER FRUGAL and live
DIRT POOR even if they have the money or the gold or whatever to
consume, then MONEY LOSES ITS POWER to undermine ethical
behavior and morality in this country.
Yep. That is one tall order. But at the end of the day, TPTB are
supported, as MKing correctly says, by every kilowatt hour we
consume, every house we buy, every car we run and so on. Every
gadget, every cell phone, every CD, every sound system, every
cable subscription and even every internet subscription is a
compromise that HELPS the CORRUPT status quo.
Well then, how come I'm not living in a panther cave? Because
I'm NOT a purist! I don't have the intestinal fortitude to take
a vow of poverty like Knarf. Mea Culpa.
HOWEVER, if 40% of the American public had exactly the same
"consumer" (see Orwell
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e
real estate market would have collapsed, the town budgets would
have shrunk from low real estate taxes from people living in 980
sq. ft. houses or smaller and there would be no mortgage
industry to speak of because everybody's house would be paid
for.
The derivatives, tranches, scams and so on in mortgages would
never have EXISTED. The price of oil would have crashed in 2003
from lack of demand. The Fossil Fuel profits would NOT have been
able to buy the politicians they bought to get the wars going
and the oil price climbing and torture escalating AND SO ON.
The entertainment industry would be bankrupt. The hotel, travel
and tourism industries would be bankrupt. Most automobile
manufacturers would have had to shut down. Most mall and stores
would have closed, including Walmart! The PC gaming industry
would have never taken off. Less than 10% of the electorate
would vote! The main stream media would be a JOKE to Americans
in any and all surveys put out by TPTB (their advertising
revenue would TANK). No printed newspapers would be in business
for at least ten years now..
But the internet would still be there. :-[
In the above Agelbert Frugality is Freedom Scenario, TPTB would
fight back JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE HIPPIES in the 1960's. IN
fact, they ARE fighting back by using every trick in the book to
make us believe we MUST support the system (and the saintly,
holy- and so on- TROOPS) that BRINGS us all these GOODIES.
What will they do if we all say they AREN'T "GOODIES"? What
will they do if they see us making the CONNECTION between
consumerism here and destroying a family or a piece of planet
there?
They will try to RIDICULE, DEFAME, DEMONIZE and, if that don't
woik, IMPRISON the leaders (in that order. It's cheaper and more
efficient that way, ya know.
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And a few
examples of killing the people making too much sense are in
order to keep the rest of the sheeple in line, of course.
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My response is, SO WHAT?
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What have YOU GOT
that makes me feel good about the traitors running my country
and the planet into the ****ing ground? You've got NOTHING! Take
your cell phones and distractions and shove them up your
descending colon!
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At which point TPTB do what they have always done when
everything they try does not work. They go on a killing rampage
with agent provocateurs starting it and the "new hippies"
getting blamed. Works every time. ;)
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But those of us left who know their tricks will continue to NOT
work within the system. The financial elite pretend all this is
a distraction because they own all the stocks anyway AND the
government AND the Military AND the health care (and so on).
And we win. We win because TPTB NEED to make us work for peanuts
so they can HAVE their piggery and Planetary Pillage. They are
slaves themselves of gigantic consumerism and hedonistic world
views so they just cannot get it through their heads that people
would rather live in misery than support a suicidal world view.
What's different know from previous history is that people, in
the past, resisted tyranny as a matter of justice, morality, and
common sense. But what they were after was a reasonable level of
HUMAN COMFORT AND PEACE.
There WAS a future. There WAS hope for a better world. There WAS
more patience and willingness to give the new top dog the
benefit of the doubt that he or she would not revert to the Lord
of the Manor BULL****.
NOW, we KNOW that human comfort and peace is IMPOSSIBLE if TPTB
continue their fascist business as usual. NOW we know we ALL ARE
COMMITTING SUICIDE by supporting the corrupt system.
So we are given a choice to have some relative comfort while we
commit suicide or undergo a lot of hard times and misery of
dealing with a government that hates us because we won't consume
enough to support the MIC fascism.
The CFS types will tell us that agelbert's attitude is suicidal
along with being anarchic and stupid. I counter that, as
compromised as I am because I don't live in a panther cave ;D,
I am waging a war for peace and justice with my level of
frugality that nobody I know, except maybe Knarf, is willing to
engage in to battle the CERTAIN suicidal world view of TPTB.
EVERYONE out there buying lots of STUFF is helping destroy our
species. And FOR WHAT?
For COMFORT! You are BRAINWASHED! You have been told that
comfort is GOOD! It's good If you aren't degrading the biosphere
and democracy to get it! At that point you become a Quisling!
The MKings will tell you that if you consume ANYTHING AT ALL,
you are as big a pig as they are and have no moral standing.
That's false. WHY? Because TPTB operate MOSTLY on marginal
profits. It's the old make a penny here and there and it adds up
through volume sales. If the Frugality is Freedom Minimalist
mindset is embraced by 40% or more of the populace, it's a death
sentence for the MIC fascist status quo. Peer pressure will take
care of the inertia of change.
People with a lick of sense CANNOT be bought for a COMFORTABLE
SUICIDE. That is what most people are, in fact, accepting as
what they GOTTA DO TO GET BY!
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That's just plain STUPID, PITIFUL and, of course, aiding and
abetting eventual HUMAN EXTINCTION.
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So yeah, Karpatok, we are between a rock and a hard place. I
recommend as extreme frugality as you can handle and the
preaching of said lifestyle everywhere you can along with
berating the materialistic DUMB ASSES shooting themselves (and
the rest of us) in the [s]foot[/s] FACE with their unethical
addiction to stuff.
THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE:
We must be willing to Starve to death, if need be, not for our
principles or purity or purpose, but because TPTB are parasitic.
Ticks cannot live without blood. They WILL NOT breed unless they
have sufficient nutrition. WE-THE-PEOPLE are the host. Unlike
the tick metaphor, WE are actually sticking a VOLUNTARY and
UNNECESSARY IV in our blood veins and feeding TPTB. Pull that
****ing IV OUT of your arm!
IF 40% of us UNITE in a Frugality is Freedom Minimalist Mindset,
most of us will not starve to death, ethical behavior will have
a fighting chance of being what most of humanity embraces, our
stupid view of the "economy" can be discarded along with the
"might is right" insanity causing the pillaging of our planet
and JUSTICE has a chance to exist among Homo SAPS.
In fact, it's our ONLY CHANCE to have a government based on
CARING instead of CONQUEST, PERIOD.
Sure, a lot of people will die horrible deaths. The specter of
dying of hunger or/and disease because you didn't work for the
fascists or support their consumerist crap is terrible. :(
But the CURRENT PATH IS SURE to prevent the life of BILLIONS of
humans in the future because there won't BE any humans in the
future.
Violence is dumb, Karpatok. I possess the skills to do all kinds
of horrendous things. If I wanted to, I could actually duplicate
the grizzly scenario in one of those Tom Clancy books (without
an A-bomb - I'm anti-nuke. LOL!). I know EXACTLY how to fly a
huge airliner. I know EXACTLY how to fool ATC radar with certain
transponder code settings that only someone who has programmed
ATC computers AND been an air traffic controller will know about
- And I would NEVER DO IT even if the devil himself, every
fascist in the world and every corrupt and murdering MIC bastard
were all gathered in a stadium for an easy hit BECAUSE they will
be REPLACED the next day and they will MULTIPLY. Violence BREEDS
VIOLENCE. I want LESS VIOLENCE. I want MORE LIFE, not more
DEATH, COMPRENDE, AMIGA?
The fascists FEED on DEATH as well as our habits.
We must all make a choice. I have made mine. That is, to the
best of my ability, to live the most frugal minimalist life
possible to starve TPTB that feed on me. If I die in the
process, I'll die knowing that, even though I might have lived
longer if I had participated in a bit more fun in my dotage, had
everyone emulated my lifestyle, humanity would not have gone
extinct. As you see, I really am not misanthropic, even though
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I repeat, I have made my choice. I ENJOY the fact that I live
small and spend little. I do not hunger for this, that or the
other (except maybe Volt ;D [img width=40
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/>). Yeah, I'm a Christian. And that has a LOT to do with my
supreme disgust with materialism. But this is NOT about
religion. I do not think God is going to do JACK SH IT to keep
us from reaping what we have sown. We've got to figure this out
or perish, period.
Anyone that follows the Frugality is Freedom Minimalist Mindset
pattern should sell ALL their stock, move to the smallest place
they can possibly live in (and so on as mentioned above). They
must STOP participating in the world of money as much as
possible by severely downsizing their expenses regardless of
their buying power. Said person must disparage demonize,
criticize, mock and take every opportunity to embarrass
worshippers of pecuniary wealth with hard, direct and angry
vitriol about the fact that these people are aiding and abetting
civilizational suicide.
My choice is not popular. So if you take it, you will not be
popular. But you will be doing the right thing.
Any other choice, from violence to clever prose about Maslow's
hierarchy and whatever that leads to doing zip to actually
change the suicidal trajectory we are on is wrong.
I urge you to make the right choice.
For anyone reading this that makes the wrong choice (comfortable
suicide leading to eventual human extinction), I have a question
for you:
Do you feel lucky?
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: January 29, 2015, 12:32 am
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[move][font=courier]‘We Are Going to Destroy the Greek Oligarchy
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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
By: AGelbert Date: January 29, 2015, 1:59 am
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[quote]“Syriza succeeded in selling an illusion that Greece can
end the reforms and stop paying the debt, and still stay in the
euro. This is impossible.
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If they do that
the European Central Bank cannot accept collateral guaranteed by
the Greek government,” he said.[/quote]
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It's SHOW TIME!
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