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       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: AGelbert Date: May 12, 2014, 9:33 pm
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       JD,
       Repost anything and everything you wish that I have posted here
       at the DD or anywhere else. And I thank you heartily in advance
       for doing so.
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       PS:
       Just Remember that at the DD you will be immediately assaulted
       with a dressed up version of this:
       If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he
       will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is
       overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it.
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       If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a
       reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept
       it even on the slightest evidence. [img width=40
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       />The origin of myths is explained in this way.
       Bertrand Russell
       [move][font=courier]If the DOOMERS want to scoff and call me a
       cornucopian dreamer, they'll have to DO IT HERE!
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       Solar Shingles or Solar Panels: Which is Best for Your Home?
       By: AGelbert Date: May 17, 2014, 12:49 am
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       Solar Shingles or Solar Panels: Which is Best for Your Home?
       Harnessing the sun’s rays produces a renewable, clean power
       source that can be converted to electricity by means of solar
       panels or roof shingles. Here’s a fact sheet on these two
       methods to help you choose the best one for your home.
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       Solar panels are the older of the two, first developed in the
       1950s. There are some 40-year-old panels in existence today that
       are still working at an impressive 80 percent of their original
       capacity.  :o  ;D
       The average solar panel measures 18 square feet and produces 185
       to 240 watts.
       Solar panels are typically installed above the shingles or other
       roof surface, leaving a 6 inch gap. Occasionally this gap
       becomes home to pests such as squirrels, raccoons, birds and
       even bats.  :( Special screens are now marketed to protect
       against animal infestation.  8)
       You can easily position and angle solar panels to catch the sun,
       no matter which direction your roof faces. Some will even track
       the sun at various times of day for optimal energy collection.
       It is a simple matter to move and relocate the panels, which may
       be installed in locations other than the roof – for example,
       atop a pole or in your garden or yard.
       Solar panels are more suitable for retrofitting if your existing
       roof is in adequate shape to last as long as the panels
       themselves, which are typically guaranteed for 25 to 30 years.
       Minimal  – or no – structural change to the roof is required.
       You can save money by installing solar panels yourself; there
       are kits on the market for this purpose. Be aware, though, that
       this may disqualify you for subsidies and rebates from the
       government or utility companies on your solar energy system.
       Check out the rules for these incentives, as well as your local
       building code.
       Solar Shingles (AKA Solar Roof Tiles)
       Solar shingles were first marketed in 2005. Because they are so
       new, there is not yet any real life data on how long they last.
       Similar in size and shape to an asphalt shingle, a single solar
       shingle produces 13 to 63 watts. This type of solar device
       originally had low conversion efficiency, about half the rate of
       solar panels. However, with technological advances over the last
       few years, they have been catching up.
       Solar shingles take the place of their conventional counterparts
       as the roofing material itself; therefore the ideal time to
       install them is when you are building a new home or replacing
       your current roof.
       Lightweight and attractive with a deep indigo blue color, solar
       shingles have weather resistance, strength and flexibility much
       the same as asphalt shingles.
       A solar shingle roof is relatively quick to install; the
       installation time has decreased approximately 60 percent in the
       past decade to about 10 hours. Nevertheless, considerable
       technical expertise is still required. As with solar panels, a
       solar shingle roof must conform to the building code of your
       state, for example Rhode Island. It is recommended to hire a
       qualified roofer with experience in this type of installation.
       Solar shingles are difficult to position to take optimum
       advantage of the sun’s rays, particularly if your roof is not
       facing south.
       A solar shingle roof will generate heat, which the roof
       substrate must be capable of withstanding. This heat also needs
       to be directed out of your attic in warmer months.
       Both
       Both solar panels and solar shingles should result in
       substantial savings on electric bills, especially during sunny
       weather.
       Financial incentives are offered for the installation of either
       type of system, generally in the form of utility discounts as
       well as federal tax credits.
       Read more:
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       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: Surly1 Date: May 17, 2014, 8:09 pm
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       [quote]JD,
       Repost anything and everything you wish that I have posted here
       at the DD or anywhere else. And I thank you heartily in advance
       for doing so.
       PS:
       Just Remember that at the DD you will be immediately assaulted
       with a dressed up version of this:
       If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he
       will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is
       overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it.
       
       If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a
       reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept
       it even on the slightest evidence.  The origin of myths is
       explained in this way.
       Bertrand Russell
       If the DOOMERS want to scoff and call me a cornucopian dreamer,
       they'll have to DO IT HERE!
       [/quote]
       AG, thanks for the Lovins links. Now I'll have to go to school a
       bit.
       BTW, I still post up your stuff on the DDFB page. If you object,
       I would stop, but it does't sound like you do.
       I think you got a pretty good hearing from a great number of us
       on the DD. I always found, and find, that you are a wealth of
       useful information, and are about 80 years ahead of your time.
       The cornucopians and apostles of the status quo won't get it,
       because Upton Sinclair. So fork them (adopting your epithet of
       choice here in your house.)
       Keep up the terrific work.
       #Post#: 1140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: AGelbert Date: May 18, 2014, 1:25 am
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       Thank you Surly.  ;D
       Everything I post here is community property. Post it wherever
       and whenever you wish, with or without attribution.
       I just had a tough week with a motion full of ridiculous
       jabberwokee from the bank. I slammed an urgent motion in reply
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       which even quotes the
       PR state Constitution and case law from the state Supreme Court
       on how the bank is perniciously injuring the property rights of
       the citizenry. After hammering all my legal points, points she
       doesn't want to touch with a ten foot pole but is SUPPOSED to, I
       POLITELY read the judge the riot act with, not one, but three
       reasons (without actually quoting the regulation number for
       judge RECUSAL  ;D ) why, if the judge does not rule for my
       solution to the bank's complaint, Anyone observing the ruling
       could "reasonably" suspect the possibility  ;D that the court is
       showing partiality, prejudgement of the case, undermining the
       belief of the citizenry in the judicial system and negatively
       affecting commerce in the buying and selling of properties
       because the ruling is for the bank which becomes "unjustly
       enriched" (a point of law) AND the equity of the debtor is not
       preserved even though the property has been paid for 19.5 years
       on a 20 year mortgage! I.E. the debtor is "CONSEQUENTLY
       "Unjustly impoverished" (another point of law that can cause a
       sale at auction to be annulled).
       I can, if she rules against me, appeal put that is a huge hassle
       and very expensive. I can't do it from here. BUT, I DO have
       legal grounds to overturn a sentence in favor of the bank
       foreclosure auction and have it annulled. But being right under
       the LAW doesn't mean much these days... :(  I expect, she will
       rule for the bank anyway.   :P
       Oh well, I have shot my full quiver of legal arguments. I did
       what I could. There just seems to be too much corruption and too
       much bank power.  :P   I've pounded the law screaming (very
       politely with florid and loquacious legalisms, OF COURSE [img
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       />) that the minimum bid of $150,000 is illegal because of case
       law (Stare Decicis) from 2012 but the judge is silent as a tomb!
       >:( She won't even address my request to have the property
       assessed now if she rules for foreclosure auction. The only good
       thing is that, since I have officially appeared in court via
       motions, the bank MUST send me, via registered mail, notice of
       the day, hour and place  of where the foreclosure auction is to
       take place. My wife has an idea of sending some relatives of
       hers who are fairly well off to bid up the price. LOL! We'll
       see.
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       />  I'd like to toss at the judge (but won't cause she would NOT
       find them amusing. LOL!).
       Agelbert approaches the bench:
       Your Honorable Magnificence of the Excellence of the
       pinnacleness of erudition, justice and unending and eternal
       integrity, obtaining an equitable ruling from this court against
       a bank worth 42 billion dollars is as likely as  ab asino lanam
       !
       Furthermore, after observing your tireless labor in which you
       wisely and with great discernment wade through all the claims
       and counter claims
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       in
       the holy and always just and saintly law, I have come to the
       conclusion that parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus .
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       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: Surly1 Date: May 18, 2014, 6:34 am
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       [quote]parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus .
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       Excellent, AG.
       Sorry about the mouse, though.
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       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: AGelbert Date: May 18, 2014, 3:08 pm
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       Moms Going Solar — The Ripple Effect (VIDEO)
       By: AGelbert Date: May 24, 2014, 1:18 pm
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       Moms Going Solar — The Ripple Effect (VIDEO)   [img width=30
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       Solar &quot;Advocacy&quot; and the US greedball proclivity to th
       e CEO cult of Personallty
       By: AGelbert Date: May 24, 2014, 3:00 pm
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       Agelbert NOTE: Below please find an "entertaining" discussion I
       had at Cleantechnica in regard to an
       [size=10pt][color=blue]article on an overpaid CEO of a Solar
       Power Advocacy Group
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       trying
       to play the "corporate CEO cult of personality" BS game that got
       us to the biosphere destroying state we are in.
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       Denver
       I think you mis-interpreted his salary. His actual paycheck was
       closer to $566,000. The remainder is mostly deferred pay, and
       the way IRS rules are set up, he may get or he may not. See
       rules on 457(f) SERPs.
       While i realize near $600k is still lot, it’s not for trade
       group advocates and association CEOs, it’s pretty much inline.
       Perhaps you should look salaries of the people Resch is going up
       against at Edison Electric Institute, American Gas Association
       or American Petroleum Institute.
       I want solar to succeed and I think we need strong, talented
       advocate at the head of SEIA. You may disagree that person
       should be Resch, but I have no problem with his salary.
       agelbert Denver
       Talent = Salary is what got the USA into the Greed is Good
       situation destroying the biosphere. You are so wrong to equate
       talent with salary. Talent goes with Vocation, not salary. Every
       spare nickel available needs to be put into the product or
       lobbying efforts, the way Elon Musk did and does. That's how it
       is done; not with the me first crap! Nobody needs that much
       money to live when they are supposedly fighting big oil and a
       polluted world future. If you claim he is "indispensable", I'll
       tell you what first year business administration texts say:
       "Find the indispensable man; and fire him!" I would fire that
       pig in a microsecond if I could. We do not need more
       "personality cult" greedball, ego trip, narcissistic, arrogant
       type CEO people in the Vocation of Renewable Energy, period.
       Peter Quill agelbert
       @agelbert: Seems like that online business degree
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       has prepared you
       well. Something they teach in actual business schools or
       economic courses is what's called "network effect." Resch and
       his staff's relationship with policy makers increases the
       probability of positive spillovers to the solar industry in the
       form of advantageous public policy. Advocacy is not like a
       business. Lobbyists don't go to work, turn on machines, and
       churn out public policy at the lowest marginal cost possible.
       It's about relationships with policy makers and their staff. In
       that regard, Resch is very valuable
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       a lower paid widget CEO and expect those countless hours of
       relationship nurturing
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       to transfer over.
       agelbert Peter Quill
       Yes, of course. You just gave me chapter and verse on "how the
       world really works". You brainiacs have done so well with that
       attitude straight from "Manufacturing consent ideology" haven't
       you?  [img width=40
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       [font=times new roman]Damnant quodnon intelligent.
       Civilitas successit barbarum.
       "We all have a tendency to think that the world must conform to
       our prejudices. The opposite view involves some effort of
       thought, and most people would die sooner than think – in fact
       they do so."
       Bertrand Russell[/font]
       Peter Quill agelbert
       Throwing out incorrect applications of Chomsky, a few lines of
       Googled Latin, and a quote from a British philosopher is not a
       substitute for making a cognizant point. What's next, calling me
       a Nazi? Let's prove Godwin's Law correct.
       agelbert Peter Quill
       My, but you are good at attacking the messenger in hopes of
       undermining the message, aren't you?
       Okay Peter, here's what I humbly believe you don't get. I will
       dispense with all sarcasm. This is serious and the pro-profit
       culture of the USA is destructive to the future of Homo sapiens,
       period.
       That doesn't mean we can't make money off of Renewable Energy.
       Anyone with half a brain and some knowledge of cost accounting,
       that includes environmental bioremediation costs, understands
       that fossil fuels were never cheap and renewable energy is the
       default setting of everything that lives in the biosphere.
       IOW, the issue is not which technology is more "competitive",
       "cost effective" or "convincing to the consumer and the
       government" through an intelligent and planned advocacy of Solar
       or whatever.
       The Goal of Renewable Energy advocacy is Demand Destruction of
       Fossil Fuels. Why? because the profits from the sale of fossil
       fuels have been (and continue to be used for this heinous
       purpose to this day) used to buy the government and make laws
       that corner, stifle and strangle any technology that competes
       with fossil fuels for the last century or so.
       People want Renewable Energy. All the polls confirm that. An
       advocacy has to go out there and get renewable energy in more
       and more hands, not try to influence the bought and paid for big
       wigs with bragged about "connections" like your hero. You need
       to shave $500,000 from his salary and write a check for $500 to
       a thousand people to be used on a small solar panel setup in
       their homes. They will then start scrimping to try to "get more
       our of the panel" and want to add more panels!
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       Here's a post I just made to illustrate what I hope china is
       doing and what I know we should be, but aren't, doing.
       The rapid growth of the Chinese offshore wind power sector
       requires a rational and clear tariff structure, something the
       Chinese are serious and methodical about because they are clear
       eyed about what the future holds if they do not make sure ALL
       renewable energy technologies achieve the goal, and achieve it
       SOON, of total demand destruction for fossil fuels. That's what
       the USA can't seem to understand.
       This is NOT about replacing an inferior technology for
       harvesting energy with a superior and cheaper technology; this
       is about Homo sapiens survival. The Chinese understand this. If
       only the USA did. We have, in the USA, the stupidest, most
       suicidal energy policy on the planet.
       I hope the Chinese pull the plug on the building of coal power
       plants, decommission built ones and embrace Amory Lovins'
       accurate assessment of industrial civilization that with
       efficiency increases in the energy production technology from
       power source to consumer, over 90% of the wasted energy can be
       eliminated and we can power ALL the needs of present industrial
       civilization with only 10% of what we now use.
       It's called negawatts and it is real. Why? Because a 5 to 10%
       efficiency increase (easily achievable with modern technology)
       in the transmission and/or generation of power has a
       multiplicative effect when it reaches the consumer. A 5%
       efficiency increase at the generation source equals over 70%
       energy saving at the consumer.
       That is why the consumer savings, so far, have had such a small
       effect on fossil fuel demand. That has to change. Amory Lovins
       knows how to do that and has been doing it for several years.
       I think China gets it. Our US (s)elected (by the fossil fuel
       oligarchy) "representatives" don't.
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       Give $500,000 to Amory Lovins and you will see real fossil fuel
       demand destruction.
       Peter Quill agelbert
       Making the point that we have a compromised political system
       that allows corporations to exert undue pressure on our policy
       making apparatus is a different point and one in which I agree.
       However, until that system is radically changed, it would be
       foolish for the solar industry not to play ball by those rules,
       however skewed they may be to incumbent industries.
       You keep throwing out terms like "demand-destruction." There
       isn't "demand" for oil, coal or gas. There is demand for "power"
       and
       "energy"
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       />- i.e. what you can do with those resources. People largely
       don't think about or care how it is harnessed.
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       called up by a pollster, but there is strong social incentive to
       do that.
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       What you are really saying, I think, is that the FULL marginal
       cost - the private cost plus social cost - needs to be included
       in the price of a unit of power. To that I totally agree.
       I believe that a stiff carbon tax is the most efficient way to
       do this. It eliminates the economic inefficiencies that arise
       when you subsidize and regulate products and markets, and allows
       marginal users (i.e. a peak gas plant that runs 10 days a year)
       to continue running because economic surplus is created in that
       case, even after accounting for the social cost of carbon. So
       yea, let's tax carbon. Until we can get to that point, let's not
       sit on our hands and refuse to play ball in the current system
       just because we find it morally repugnant or because its not the
       most economically efficient way to achieve results.  [img
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       agelbert Peter Quill
       I hear you and I understand you are trying to make the best of
       the hand you have been dealt, so to speak. I hope you are right
       and I am wrong.
       I still believe the application of the negawatts course of
       action (to increase fossil fuel demand destruction in order to
       de-empower the fossil fuel industry from driving solar into a
       box canyon and proceeding to stifle it) is not optional because,
       after stifling solar through restrictive laws and such low down
       and dirty tactics, the fossil fuelers scream that solar is not
       cost effective and a "waste" to "subsidize".
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       Then they crow about how "great" and "competitive" fossil fuels
       are.
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       They did it to ethanol in the 1930s with Prohibition (and are
       trying to do it again now by backing the wrong crop - corn - as
       a biofuel source).
       They game all these renewable energy technologies. Check out how
       Reagan turned the lights on Solar.
       How Ronald Reagan turned the lights out on solar power
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       These people do not believe in a level energy sources playing
       field. Their version of a level energy playing field is an
       alpine slope with them looking down at you [/i[b][i]]with lots
       of big rocks ready to toss at you if you get good at climbing
       that slope. If you play their game, you will lose.[/b]
       If it weren't for the severe climate we are beginning to
       experience due to fossil fuel burning folly, solar would have
       been crushed just like wind, CSP and geothermal were in the
       1980s.
       We need the demand for fossil fuels [i]rug pulled out from under
       the fossil fuel polluting, mendacious propaganda pushing pigs so
       they can no longer buy our politicians.
       [/i]
       Peter, I see you are practical fellow. Well, the only practical
       approach to the fossil fuel pushing criminals is a paradigm
       shift. That's not about idealism; it's about survival.
       Perhaps you do not believe the issue is that serious. I think it
       is. Taxing carbon is, of course, part of the solution to the
       overall equation.
       But bear in mind that, historically, punitive measures have
       never worked on Big Oil and Coal because they buy the
       politicians. You must destroy their profits or they will destroy
       you (and, in the time tested path of the criminally insane,
       suicidally destroy our hope for a viable biosphere).
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       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: AGelbert Date: May 25, 2014, 6:07 pm
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       Mount Signal Solar Is Online: World's Largest Single Axis Solar
       PV Project  [img width=80
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       Yet another enormous solar plant is producing energy in
       California, Mount Signal Solar.
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       Built by Abengoa (MCE: ABG; Nasdaq: ABGB), it is the world's
       largest single-axis solar PV  plant, which means the solar
       panels track the sun.
       At 206 megawatts, it will bring clean electricity to about
       72,000 homes in the San Diego area.  More than three million
       modules are spread over almost 2000 acres - each rotates on a
       north-south axis to track the daily path of the sun.
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       Solar Mount Signal
       Abengoa doesn't own the plant - they designed and built the
       project for Silver Ridge Power under a $365 million contract.
       Google invested $103 million in the project. At peak
       construction it employed over 700 people from the surrounding
       area, building it in a record 16 months.
       In the US, Abengoa also built Solana - the world's largest
       parabolic trough solar plant and the first to store energy -
       that came online last year in Arizona. It will soon complete the
       250 MW Mojave Solar Project, another parabolic trough plant, in
       California.
       Based in Spain, Abengoa recently began trading on Nasdaq
       (ABGB), in addition to its home market exchange, and will soon
       spin off Abengoa Yield, one of many "yieldcos
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       Re: Photvoltaics (PV) 
       By: AGelbert Date: May 29, 2014, 9:59 pm
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