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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: May 25, 2016, 6:54 pm
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       [move][font=courier]Headlines that Evidence the Fossil Fuel
       Industry Consistent LACK of Ethics:  [/font][/move]
       [center]My father warned Exxon about climate change in the
       1970s. They didn't listen (Guardian, Claudia Black-Kalinsky
       op-ed)[/center]
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       [center]ExxonMobil tried to censor climate scientists to
       Congress during Bush era[/center]
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       [center]Shell CEO warns renewables shift could spell end if too
       swift
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       />
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       [center]Lawmakers
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       />approve bill to cut NOAA, climate research [img
       width=70]
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       />
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       (E&E News $)[/center]
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       width=300]
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       [center]The "logic" of the fossil Fuel Industry and their bought
       and paid for "Lawmakers"[/center]
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: May 30, 2016, 6:33 pm
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       [center][img
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       [center]Emails Confirm Hillary Clinton Used Her State Department
       Role to Press Countries to Embrace Fracking [/center]
       Posted on May 28, 2016
       A campaign commercial that aired in upstate New York in April
       touted Hillary Clinton’s work as secretary of state forcing
       “some of the world’s worst polluters” to make “real change.”
       Then she promised to “stand firm with New Yorkers opposing
       fracking, giving communities the right to say ‘no.’ ”   [img
       width=80]
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       Lee Fang and Steve Horn reported at The Intercept on Monday:
       The television spot, which was not announced and does not appear
       on the official campaign YouTube page with most of Clinton’s
       other ads, implied a history of opposition to fracking, here and
       abroad. But emails obtained by The Intercept from the Department
       of State reveal new details of behind-the-scenes efforts by
       Clinton and her close aides to export American-style hydraulic
       fracturing — the horizontal drilling technique best known as
       fracking — to countries all over the world.
       Far from challenging fossil fuel companies, the emails obtained
       by The Intercept show that State Department officials worked
       closely with private sector oil and gas companies
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       pressed
       other agencies within the Obama administration to commit federal
       government resources including technical assistance for locating
       shale reserves, and distributed agreements with partner nations
       pledging to help secure investments for new fracking projects.
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       [move]Brought to you by the patriotic profit over planet efforts
       of the fossil fuel government   [img
       width=40]
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       />and their loyal servant, Hillary Clinton. [/move]
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       The documents also reveal the department’s role in bringing
       foreign dignitaries to a fracking site in Pennsylvania, and its
       plans to make Poland a “laboratory for testing whether US
       success in developing shale gas can be repeated in a different
       country,” particularly in Europe, where local governments had
       expressed opposition and in some cases even banned fracking.
       The campaign included plans to spread the drilling technique to
       China, South Africa, Romania, Morocco, Bulgaria, Chile, India,
       Pakistan, Argentina, Indonesia, and Ukraine.
       In 2014, Mother Jones reporter Mariah Blake used diplomatic
       cables disclosed by WikiLeaks and other records to uncover how
       Clinton “sold fracking to the world.” The emails obtained by The
       Intercept through a separate Freedom of Information Act request
       provide a new layer of detail.
       Continue reading.
  HTML https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/hillary-clinton-fracking/
       —Posted by Alexander Reed Kelly.
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 1, 2016, 1:52 pm
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       [center]It’s Time to Break Saudi’s Oil Monopoly and Embrace
       Clean Transportation[/center]
       Carl Pope | May 31, 2016 9:15 am
       Oil touched $50 last week, close to double its slump price
       earlier this year, before falling slightly below that benchmark.
       Short-term impacts—the wildfire in Canada and outages in
       Nigeria—helped reduce stocks and drive up the price; then Iraq
       production increases stalled the rally. The market seemed to
       have averted the risk of an extended period of $20-30 prices,
       unsustainable for oil dependent nations, even the richest like
       the Saudis, whose “pump and dump” strategy lies behind the
       current low-price environment.
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       width=640]
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       [/center]
       [center]What is lacking, particularly in the U.S., is a robust
       public conversation about breaking oil’s monopoly and replacing
       it with cleaner transportation.[/center]
       At $40-60/barrel, however, the Saudis can stay the course. They
       can afford that price in terms of their budget deficit, if not
       easily. Some U.S. shale plays come back into production, but the
       capital heavy projects in the Arctic, ultra-deep ocean or
       Canadian tar sands are still off the table as prudent
       investments. Medium term, as non-OPEC [Organization of the
       Petroleum Exporting Countries], non-shale production falls, with
       no new big ticket projects coming on-line to replace depleted
       wells, reserves fall. Increasing demand will then require
       increasing dependence on OPEC and soaring prices. Even if U.S.
       shale roars back in response, it can’t make up for an investment
       slump everywhere else. The Saudis can then set the price they
       want.
       Western governments know this. They treat the Kingdom with kid
       gloves. In Kossovo, even while it was effectively an American
       protectorate, the Saudis were allowed to implant jihadi mullahs
       to create an ideological base for their Wahhabi Islam. In the
       process they “transformed this once-tolerant Muslim society at
       the hem of Europe into a font of Islamic extremists and a
       pipeline for jihadists.” Kossovo now sends more recruits to ISIS
       than any nation in Europe: 314 identified to date from a tiny
       country.
       Kossovo is not alone. Wiki-Leaks found that the Saudi consulate
       in New Delhi had 140 imams on its payroll—and Indian Muslims
       lament the erosion of the tolerant Islam that was indigenous to
       their country.
       In Washington, efforts to disclose the role of the Saudis in the
       9-11 attacks, laid out in 28 still secret pages of the 9-11
       Commission Report, are still stalled by counter-lobbying from
       the Saudi Government—although some of its representatives have
       previously asserted they have nothing to hide and would welcome
       the release of the documents.
       So cheaper oil, even oil below $50, has not freed the U.S. from
       the security threats of oil’s monopoly over global
       transportation, while it has threatened to continue (or even
       exacerbate) the escalating disruption of global climate stemming
       from continued reliance on oil and other fossil fuels.
       The Saudi Strategy to extend oil’s hegemony seems to be
       gathering steam.
       But technology and politics are hinting there is a pathway to a
       world Beyond Oil. Recent months have been full of breakthroughs
       among advocates of clean transportation technologies like EV’s.
       The biggest splash was Elon Musk’s staggering 400,000 early
       orders for the launch of his Model 3. But significant new
       opportunities for EV’s were also signaled by the declaration by
       Indian Energy Minister Piyush Goyal that he wanted a national
       goal of complete electrification of the Indian motor vehicle
       fleet by 2030! The German government, its market lagging the
       rest of Europe in EU sales, committed $1.4 billion to catch up.
       The Austrian Ministry of Agriculture and Environment is working
       on a plan that would ban the sale of new gas and diesel cars by
       2020. Lawmakers in the lower house of the Dutch Parliament
       approved a motion in March that would ban the sale of new gas
       and diesel cars five years later.
       [center][quote]These kinds of policy support for a more rapid
       transition to cleaner, non-petroleum based transportation
       choices matter—a lot. [/quote][/center]
       Indeed, even if clean transportation vehicles have higher
       sticker prices than diesel or gasoline engines, their positive
       impact on future oil prices makes them a very good deal for oil
       importers like the EU, the U.S., India and China. A recent study
       by Cambridge Econometrics, Oil Market Futures, concluded that
       investing in clean transportation could help head off the next
       oil price spike. It also found that without such leadership, oil
       prices could easily reach $130 by 2050, even though most of the
       U.S. shale reserves would become profitable again once prices
       reach $80. Importantly, it estimated public policies to
       encourage reduced reliance on oil could save $33 trillion in
       transportation spending over the decade from 2020-2030.
       What is lacking, particularly in the U.S. [img
       width=60]
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       /> is a robust public conversation about breaking oil’s monopoly
       and replacing it with cleaner transportation. While states on
       the West Coast and in the Northeast push for lower oil
       dependence and the Obama Administration works on fuel economy
       standards, the oil and auto industries are gearing up a massive
       political assault on these efforts. Oil companies are pouring
       tens of millions of dollars in campaign contributions into
       California legislative efforts. The President has done little to
       make the fight to get off oil a clear priority for his final
       year in office. Donald Trump, of course, thinks the answer is
       simply to drill even more wells, precisely the strategy that has
       left us vulnerable to the Russians and Saudis today.
       But one intriguing idea has been offered up—that the next
       president should set up a National Commission to investigate the
       manipulation of the global oil market by exporters like Saudi
       Arabia, Russia and Iran. The idea was offered by Securing
       America’s Future Energy (SAFE), a coalition of business and
       national security leaders. SAFE’s goal is not so much to
       discover new conspiracies—OPEC conducts its market manipulation
       in the broad light of day and economists have agreed for decades
       that in a competitive oil market, prices would be far lower.
       But what has been lacking is a mechanism to focus public
       attention on the problem and the solution—ensuring that
       Americans have genuine transportation choices rather than being
       forced to fuel up with gasoline, diesel or jet fuel all derived
       from crude oil. SAFE’s proposed OPEC Commission could serve that
       function, forcing Washington to address the problem. The first
       Congressional support for the idea came from some interesting
       sources: Arizona Republican Congressman Trent Franks, Minnesota
       Democrat Colin Peterson and Donald Trump’s own energy advisor,
       North Dakota Congressman Kevin Cramer. (Trump himself did not
       embrace the idea, nor have either of the Democratic Presidential
       candidates).
       So right now the Saudi bet is paying off—now it’s up to oil
       importing nations like the U.S. to decide if they want to be
       whipsawed by $100 oil (or higher) yet one more time—or if they
       will embrace clean transportation, save trillions, defang Russia
       and the Wahhabis, with pollution free alternatives to oil.
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       Agelbert COMMENT: Step one is to get rid of the "subsidies" for
       any and all fossil fuel exploration, exploitation and products
       from the well to the refinery to the gas station. There is
       absolutely no reason why we should dig our own grave supporting
       these polluting welfare queens.
       Senator Sanders, now running for President, has repeatedly
       submitted legislation to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies over
       the last decade.
       ALL the subsidy money hitherto earmarked for dirty energy MUST
       be spent on Renewable energy Infrastructure.
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 2, 2016, 8:30 pm
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       [center]Sanders Touts Fracking Ban as Clinton Pushes Renewables
       Plan Just Days Before California Primary[/center]
       Lorraine Chow | June 2, 2016 1:25 pm
       Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are ramping up their green
       bona fides before the Golden State’s crucial Democratic primary
       Tuesday. The Democratic presidential candidates recently
       elaborated their national energy plans, with Sanders calling for
       a nationwide ban on fracking and Clinton pledging to use federal
       lands to enable the nation’s transition to more renewable
       energy.
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       Bernie Sanders
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       “If elected president, we will not need state-by-state,
       county-by-county action, because we are going to ban fracking in
       50 states in this country,” the Vermont Senator said at a press
       conference in Spreckels, California. “I hope very much that
       Monterey County will continue the momentum that makes it clear
       that fracking is not safe, is not what we want for our kids.”
       He also called Clinton out for being weak on fracking
       regulations. The former Secretary of State has been attacked for
       her enthusiasm for fracking and natural gas, and for saying at a
       December 2014 New York City speech before the League of
       Conservation Voters, “If we are smart about this and put in
       place the right safeguards, natural gas can play an important
       bridge role in the transition to a cleaner energy economy.”
       “Secretary Clinton and I obviously have many, many differences
       of opinions on many issues, but on the issue of fracking, our
       differences of opinion are pretty profound,” he said. “I think
       it is too late for regulation. I think fracking ought to be
       banned in America.”
       During his speech, Sanders said that the Democratic Party as a
       whole should also adopt a fracking ban on its platform.
       “I would hope the Democratic Party makes it clear that it has
       the guts to stand up to the fossil fuel industry and tell them
       that their short-term profits are not more important than the
       health of our children or the future of our planet,” he said.
       [center]
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       Sanders said he will be fighting Clinton all the way to the
       Democratic National Convention in late July, even though at this
       point it is mathematically impossible for him to win the
       nomination based on pledged delegates alone.
       However, as Grist noted, even if he loses the nomination, one of
       the candidate’s biggest contributions is pulling Clinton and the
       party to the left. Additionally, as the publication observed, he
       was recently awarded five out of 15 slots on the all-important
       Democratic Party Platform Drafting Committee, ensuring that his
       environmental and progressive legacy will live on if he doesn’t
       win.
       Sanders’s candidates include academic and political activist
       Cornel West, Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, Arab American
       Institute head James Zogby, Native American activist Deborah
       Parker and climate activist Bill McKibben.
       Hillary Clinton
       “Now, as we work to combat climate change and build America into
       the world’s clean energy superpower, our public lands can once
       again play a key role in unlocking the resources we need,”
       Clinton wrote in an editorial in the Mercury News published
       Wednesday.
       She continued, “We can accelerate our transition to a clean
       energy economy by increasing renewable energy generation on
       public lands and offshore waters tenfold within a decade.”
       According to her campaign website, Clinton has set a goal to
       generate enough renewable energy to power every home in the
       country.
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       />
       “To help meet this goal, Clinton will expand energy production
       on public lands and waters ten-fold within ten years of taking
       office, while reforming federal fossil fuel leasing,” the site
       states.
       Clinton, who has a narrow two-point lead over Sanders in
       California, recently received a rare endorsement from the
       Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC)’s Action Fund, the
       first time the NRDC has backed a presidential candidate.
       “Hillary Clinton is an environmental champion
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       />with the passion, experience and savvy to build on President
       Obama’s environmental legacy,” Rhea Suh, president of the NRDC
       Action fund, said. “More than any other candidate running,
       Hillary Clinton understands the environmental challenges America
       faces, and her approach to solving them is grounded in the
       possibility and promise our democracy affords.”
       Michael Brune, Sierra Club’s executive director, also praised
       Clinton’s environmental stewardship plan, calling it a “huge
       step forward that would build on the progress President Obama
       has made to keep our cherished public lands public.”
       He said that Clinton’s proposal pushes for reforms of oil and
       gas leasing programs, and “ends the debate once and for all
       surrounding offshore drilling in the Arctic and the Atlantic.”
       “This detailed, specific plan also reaffirms our belief that
       everyone should have the same opportunities to enjoy and explore
       our parks, and boosts the American outdoor economy that creates
       jobs and generates billions of dollars. Additionally, Clinton is
       committing to protect our forests and expanding the resources
       available to fight devastating wildfires,” Brune added.
       “We applaud this proposal that makes conservation central to
       Clinton’s campaign and offers powerful solutions to protect our
       treasured lands and make them more accessible and available for
       generations to come.”
       The Sierra Club has not endorsed a presidential candidate.
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       Comment Thread:
       agelbert  • 7 hours ago
       Hillary Clinton is a friend of the fossil fuel industry, their
       polluting practices and their welfare queen subsisdies, every
       bit as much as Donald Trump is.
       Senator Sanders has repeatedly submitted legislation over the
       last decade to eliminate the welfare queens subsides
       we-the-people are saddled with on behalf of the fossil fuel
       industry.
       Senator Sanders is credible on Renewable energy and reducing
       pollution from fossil fuels through the elimination of subsidies
       and a ban on Fracking.
       Hillary Clinton is Trump in drag.
       
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       Rob Brown > agelbert  • 7 hours ago
       agelbert,
       I'm not sure I quite agree with your last sentence! Literary
       fluorishes are always welcome but...... Otherwise you are making
       fair comments!
       
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       agelbert > Rob Brown  • 6 hours ago
       I just couldn't resist. You are right, of course. There are
       differences between Trump and Clinton.
       But, as far as what needs to be done to provide a viable
       biosphere, Sanders has the track record and credibility to do it
       and both Clinton and Trump do not.
       
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       agelbert  • 5 hours ago
       “The Future of U.S. Climate Policy: Coal, Carbon Markets and the
       Clean Air Act.” - U.S. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse October 29, 2014
       “Pollution-driven climate change hurts our economy, damages our
       infrastructure and harms public health,” he told his audience.
       “However, none of these costs are factored into the price of the
       coal or oil that’s burned to release this carbon. The big oil
       and coal companies have offloaded those costs onto society.
       Economics 101 tells us that’s a market failure; in the jargon,
       that negative externalities are inefficient. If a company
       participates in an activity that causes harm, it should have to
       compensate those harmed.”
       “By making carbon pollution free, we subsidize fossil fuel
       companies to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars
       annually,” he continued. “By making carbon pollution free, we
       fix the game, favoring polluters over newer and cleaner
       technologies that harvest the wind, sun and waves. Corporate
       polluters, not bearing the costs of their products, are in
       effect cheating their competitors.”
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       Cummulative subsidies pie chart:
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       agelbert  • 6 hours ago
       Hillary Clinton REFUSES to support legislation to eliminate
       fossil fuels. Senator Sanders has repeatedly introduced
       legislation to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies. Hillary Clinton,
       as Secretary of State, advocated for Fracking and sweetheart
       deals for U.S. Oil and Gas corporations to to several countries.
       Senator Sanders has been consistently calling for a ban on
       Fracking.
       Senator Sanders cares about we-the-people. Hillary Clinton does
       not.
       Reflections From Below The Fossil Subsidy Iceberg
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       agelbert  • 6 hours ago
       01/30/2015 12:47 PM
       Fossil Fuel Subsidies Finally Trending Down, But Not In US  :>(
       SustainableBusiness.com News
       Now that deep sea oil drilling projects are being cancelled
       across the world because of low petroleum prices, governments
       should use this opportunity to phase out fossil fuel subsidies,
       says the International Energy Agency (IEA).
       And at least 27 countries are doing so, they say. It started in
       2013, when fossil subsidies declined by $27 billion to $548
       billion, while renewable energy support rose $11 billion to
       $96.5 billion. The process is accelerating with low oil prices.
       &#12288;
       "In the absence of subsidies, all of the main renewable energy
       technologies would be competitive with oil-fired plants," says
       Faith Birol, Chief Economist at IEA. &#12288;
       IEA calculates that for every $1 that subsidizes renewable
       energy, $6 is spent to subsidize fossil fuels - precious funds
       that could be used for sustainable development. &#12288;
       Countries cutting subsides range from Mexico to Germany, from
       Morocco to Malaysia, mostly in the form of higher gas prices -
       everyone except the US, as usual! There's no need to subsidize
       fossil fuel consumption when prices are so low, saving
       governments lots of money and leveling the playing field for
       renewable energy. &#12288;
       India, for example, has been spending 2.2% of GDP on fossil
       subsidies to keep electric and fuel prices artificially low.
       &#12288;
       Fossil Fuel Subsidies US&#12288;
       Countries need to stop providing subsidies to stoke exploration
       and production - amounting to about $88 billion last year. The
       UK, for example, is considering incentives for drilling in the
       North Sea, and the US - the biggest subsidizer - has a new
       offshore oil leasing plan.&#12288;
       IEA has been fervently calling for an end to fossil subsides -
       that alone, would reduce global emissions 13% - while making it
       much easier for renewable sources to compete. It would also
       reduce air and water pollution and free up funding for the Green
       Climate Fund. &#12288;
       Efforts to cut emissions by using more renewable energy can't do
       the job if fossil fuel use keeps growing, says IEA. If the
       status quo continues, global energy demand will rise 37% and
       carbon emissions 20% by 2040. That would lead to a 3.6°C (6.5°F)
       temperature rise - making catastrophic sea level rise, polar ice
       cap melt, water shortages and other severe effects inevitable.
       &#12288;
       To get fossil subsidies down faster, the Center for American
       Progress is promoting "SPARC Bonds," which would be repaid with
       savings from reduced subsidies. Read more:
       Website: www.americanprogress.org/issue...
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       see more
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       agelbert  • 6 hours ago
       SNIPPET from an article by Bill Ritter, Colorado’s 41st
       governor.
       Fossil fuels enjoy a variety of targeted tax benefits as well as
       MLPs. Denying the same mix to renewable energy investors
       perpetuates federal policies that have long picked fossil fuels
       as the winners. The PTC/ITC and MLPs should not be an either/or
       issue. Both belong in an intelligent mix of tax policies that
       create more robust market competition on a more level playing
       field.
       In addition, opening MLPs to renewable-energy investment is
       consistent with the "all of the above" energy strategy advocated
       both by President Obama and the Republican Party. I am confident
       that as various renewable energy technologies become ready for
       full-scale commercialization, they will compete very well.
       In the absence of access to MLPs, private investors and state
       governments are creating other ways to capitalize emerging
       clean-energy technologies. Renewable-energy bonds, green-energy
       banks, crowdfunding and "yield cos" are among recent
       innovations.
       Nevertheless, a great deal of private capital remains sidelined,
       waiting for stable and equitable federal energy policies. If we
       really believe in letting all market-ready energy options slug
       it out in robust competition, then we shouldn’t ask that federal
       policies fix the fight. But that is what happens when
       renewable-energy investors are barred from the tax incentives
       that investors in fossil fuels enjoy.
       Bill Ritter served as Colorado’s 41st governor. He is currently
       the director of the Center for the New Energy Economy at
       Colorado State University.
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       agelbert  • 6 hours ago
       Unnatural Gas: How Government Made Fracking Profitable (and Left
       Renewables Behind)
       To paraphrase Samuel Clemens in regard to some of his
       experiences with people that make holes in the ground to get
       stuff out of and sell to us for "profit", a FRACKING site is a
       hole the ground with a bunch of LIARS on top.
       Here's an article the fossil fuelers will disagree with and
       ridicule as "garden variety" or "irrelevant" or disdain with
       some other pejorative bit of puffery.
       The only part of the article the fossil fuel funded
       propagandists will agree with is that the Oil and Gas industry
       ACTUALLY gave solar power technology development a boost back in
       the 70s because PV supplied power to very remote locations the
       fossil fuelers tend be located for new profit over planet
       piggery.
       The FULL story of how we-the-people have supported these fossil
       fuel and nuclear welfare queens is there from the start until
       this day. The appearance of fossil duel industry profitability
       ignores our tax money for research and continuous subsidy.
       Fossil fuelers have an amazing ability to ignore, not just
       externalized costs, but the giveaways from we-the-people! They
       have the gall to compute those subsidies as part of the ROI
       (Return On Investment). That's a blatant accounting falsehood.
       Without subsides they are not profitable, period. But the fossil
       fuelers will continue with their fantasies, come hell or high
       water. So it goes.
       SNIPPPET 1:
       Quote
       The bias against renewable funding and support is clear. Recent
       analysis found that over the first fifteen years an industry
       receives a subsidy, nuclear energy received an average of $3.3
       billion, oil and gas averaged $1.8 billion,Fto and renewables
       averaged less than $0.4 billion.
       Renewables received less than one-quarter of the support of oil
       and gas and less than one-eighth of the support that nuclear
       received during the early years of development, when strong
       investment can make a big difference. Yet even with this
       disparity, more of our energy supply now comes from renewables
       than from nuclear, which indicates the strength of renewables as
       a potential energy source.
       SNIPPET 2:
       Quote
       The President Carter supported momentum behind renewable
       development came to a rapid halt as soon as Ronald Reagan was
       elected president. Not only did he remove the solar panels atop
       the White House, he also gutted funding for solar development
       and poured billions into developing a dirty synthetic fuel that
       was never brought to market.
       Unnatural Gas: How Government Made Fracking Profitable (and Left
       Renewables Behind)
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       agelbert  • 6 hours ago
       The quagmire that faces industrialized civilization is that much
       of it was built using "cheap" fossil fuels which were, not only
       subsidized directly, but in nearly all cases the externalities
       were never factored in so the damage and costs associated with
       fossil fuel were lugged to the general
       population/wildlife/environment.
       The other important thing is energy, especially artificially
       cheap energy, acts as an enabler of other resources.
       This means if it is cheap to procure energy then the costs of
       getting other resources lessens and when you reduce the price of
       any commodity you encourage its consumption. As consumption
       increases you not only encourage more wasteful consumption but
       you also make it viable to mine big fields that could only be
       economic under the current regime of fossil fuels.
       Think of all those gold mines or other rare metal mines that
       need to be treated with harsh chemicals. None of those projects
       would be viable if there was no "cheap" energy so this is
       another hidden associated cost of fossil fuels.
       
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       agelbert  • 7 hours ago
       Legislation to End Fossil Fuel Tax Breaks Introduced by Sen.
       Sanders, Rep. Ellison Friday, November 22, 2013
       WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 – As House and Senate budget negotiators
       look for ways to lower deficits,
       Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.)
       today introduced legislation to eliminate tax loopholes and
       subsidies that support the oil, gas and coal industries.
       The End Polluter Welfare Act of 2013 would remove tax breaks,
       close loopholes, end taxpayer-funded fossil fuel research and
       prevent companies from escaping liability for spills or
       deducting cleanup costs. Under current law, these subsidies are
       expected to cost taxpayers more than $100 billion in the coming
       decade.
       The White House budget proposal for next year calls for
       eliminating several of the same provisions that the legislation
       by Sanders and Ellison would end.
       "At a time when fossil fuel companies are racking up record
       profits, it is time to end the absurdity of American taxpayers
       providing massive subsidies to these hugely profitable fossil
       fuel corporations," Sanders said.
       "The five biggest oil companies made $23 billion in the third
       quarter of 2013 alone. They don’t need any more tax giveaways,"
       Ellison said. "We should invest in the American people by
       creating good jobs and ending cuts to food assistance instead of
       throwing tens of billions of taxpayer dollars at one of the
       biggest and most profitable industries in the world."&#12288;
       The five most profitable oil companies (ExxonMobil, Shell,
       Chevron, BP and ConocoPhilips) together made more than $1
       trillion in profits over the past decade.&#12288;
       The Sanders and Ellison legislation is supported by
       environmental groups including Friends of the Earth, Oil Change
       International and 350.org.&#12288;
       The fiscal watchdog Taxpayers for Common Sense, which has worked
       for nearly two decades to eliminate wasteful energy subsidies,
       also supports the bills.
  HTML http://www.sanders.senate.gov/...
       Hillary Clinton was silent as DEATH on the above legislation
       which failed due to Republican pandering to the Fossil Fuel
       Industry. Hillary Clinton did NOT, and DOES NOT, support the
       elimination of fossil fuel industry welfare queen subsidies.
       
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       agelbert  • 7 hours ago
       Here's the main problem I have with the defense of the fossil
       fuel energy status quo as if it was something reasonably priced,
       economical, viable and sane as opposed to the continuous fossil
       fuel industry disngenuous insistence on claiming that renewable
       energy is "too costly and/or unreliable":
       Fossil fuel energy was never, and I mean never, cost effective.
       In a sane society that doesn't pretend you can add and subtract
       whatever factors you wish in order to come up with a profit that
       will attract investment capital, you figure in all the costs to
       human society.
       From the moment John D. Rockefeller started flushing gasoline
       down the rivers in Pennsylvania in the late 19th century (it was
       a waste product then) after refining crude oil for lubricants
       and lamp oil, huge costs were being foisted on society.
       Coal is even worse. Fossil fuelers pretend all that is water
       under the bridge. Fossil fuelers pretend all the benefits of
       modern society are an acceptable tradeoff.
       Well, they aren't. The only premise that is logical and sane
       now, with the continued damage that adds insult to injury to the
       biosphere we all depend on, is to admit that fossil fuels were
       never a viable, cost effective, sustainable source of energy for
       mankind and press on to renewable energy simply because there is
       no other alternative.
       A sane person would not argue this isn't real and those who
       defend fossil fuel energy are not in la la land in regard to the
       actual cost of these poisons,
       The subsidies the fossil-fuel (and nuclear) industry receive —
       and have received for many years — make their product
       "affordable." Those subsidies take many forms, but the most
       significant are their "externalities." Externalities are real
       costs, but they are foisted off on the community instead of
       being paid by the companies that caused them.[18]
       Paul Epstein, director of Harvard Medical School Center for
       Health and the Global Environment, has examined the health and
       environmental impacts of coal, including: mining,
       transportation, combustion in power plants and the impact of
       coal’s waste stream. He found that the "life cycle effects of
       coal and its waste cost the American public $333 billion to over
       $500 billion dollars annually". These are costs the coal
       industry is not paying and which fall to the community in
       general. Eliminating that subsidy would dramatically increase
       the price of coal-fired electricity.[18]
       IEA position on subsidies
       According to IEA (2011) energy subsidies artificially lower the
       price of energy paid by consumers, raise the price received by
       producers or lower the cost of production. ,"Fossil fuels
       subsidies costs generally outweigh the benefits.
       Subsidies to renewables and low-carbon energy technologies can
       bring long-term economic and environmental benefits".[19] In
       November 2011, an IEA report entitled Deploying Renewables 2011
       said "subsidies in green energy technologies that were not yet
       competitive are justified in order to give an incentive to
       investing into technologies with clear environmental and energy
       security benefits".
       The IEA's report disagreed with claims that renewable energy
       technologies are only viable through costly subsidies and not
       able to produce energy reliably to meet demand. "A portfolio of
       renewable energy technologies is becoming cost-competitive in an
       increasingly broad range of circumstances, in some cases
       providing investment opportunities without the need for specific
       economic support," the IEA said, and added that "cost reductions
       in critical technologies, such as wind and solar, are set to
       continue."[20]
       Fossil-fuel consumption subsidies were $409 billion in 2010, oil
       products claim half of it. Renewable-energy subsidies were $66
       billion in 2010 and will reach according to IEA $250 billion by
       2035. Renewable energy is subsidized in order to compete in the
       market, increase their volume and develop the technology so that
       the subsidies become unnecessary with the development.
       Eliminating fossil-fuel subsidies could bring economic and
       environmental benefits. Phasing out fossil-fuel subsidies by
       2020 would cut primary energy demand 5%. Since the start of
       2010, at least 15 countries have taken steps to phase out
       fossil-fuel subsidies.
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       I say they should take the subsidy money presently assigned to
       fossil fuels and transfer all of it to renewable energy
       subsidies.
       Fossil fuel was never a viable energy option for mankind. We
       cannot afford to burn fossil fuels, period.
       
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       agelbert  • 7 hours ago
       Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S
       What is a fossil fuel subsidy?
       A fossil fuel subsidy is any government action that lowers the
       cost of fossil fuel energy production, raises the price received
       by energy producers or lowers the price paid by energy
       consumers. There are a lot of activities under this simple
       definition—tax breaks and giveaways, but also loans at favorable
       rates, price controls, purchase requirements and a whole lot of
       other things.
       How much money does the U.S. government give oil, gas and coal
       companies?
       In the United States, credible estimates of annual fossil fuel
       subsidies range from $14 billion to $52 billion annually, while
       even efforts to remove small portions of those subsidies have
       been defeated in Congress, as shown in the graphic below&#12288;
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       agelbert  • 5 hours ago
       Here's some more real world science that motivates the efforts
       Senator Sanders. He is the only presidential candidate that
       understands the gravity of our situation and will to do
       something to lessen the impact of catastrophic climate change.
       quote:The troposphere is warmed in part through absorption of
       radiation by H2O and CO2, the stratosphere is warmed, indeed
       created, through absorption of radiation by O3. unquote
       quote: the absorption of terrestrial radiation is dominated by
       triatomic molecules – O3 in the UV, H2O, CO2 and others in the
       IR (infrared) because it so happens that triatomic molecules
       have rotational and vibrational modes that can easily be excited
       by radiation with wavelengths in the IR. These molecules are
       present in tiny concentrations (see Table 1.2) but play a key
       role in the absorption of terrestrial radiation (see Fig.2.6).
       They are known as Greenhouse gases.
       This is the fundamental reason why atmospheric radiation may be
       so vulnerable to the human-induced changes in composition shown
       in Fig.1.3. p46. unquote
       quote: The most important negative feedback regulating the
       temperature of the planet is the dependence of the outgoing
       longwave radiation on temperature. p53. unquote
       IR (infrared) is longwave radiation.
       THE HOTTER IT GETS, the less effective the negative feedback
       mechanisms that were hitherto keeping a cooling balance on our
       planet are. The more CO2 in the atmosphere, the greater the
       positive feedback mechanisms heating our planet are.
       THAT is why it is called a runaway greenhouse; the hotter it
       gets, the faster the rate of heating increases.
       
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       agelbert > agelbert  • 5 hours ago
       NOTE to EchoWatch AND Disqus. Every single time I have made the
       above post, it has been flagged as spam. I have not place a link
       to the studies because this web site has link bounce software
       that seems to be triggered after about four posts. I have filled
       my "quota" today, I guess.
       This link bounce practice is un-American. Please stop it. In a
       couple of hours, if this post is still here, I will post the
       link to the studies irrefutably connecting GHG(s) in general,
       and CO2 in particular, as THE cause of global warming.
       The fossil fuel industry is the culprit. They must go or we
       will.
       
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       agelbert > agelbert  • 16 minutes ago
       Well and good. The post explaining the runaway greenhouse hasn't
       been attacked as "spam".
       Here are the links the data came from:
       Absorption frequencies for energy transfer and info on water and
       CO2 molecules as well as uv energy.
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       ...
       1.
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       2.
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       3.
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       4.
  HTML http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.go
       ...
       5.
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       6 .
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       karen orlando  • 6 hours ago
       Quite a few people listed in this article like bill mckibben and
       Michael brune aren't terrifically impressive on climate progress
       as both are antifracking and anti natural gas. Clearly Bernie is
       their candidate because his climate platform is also against
       nuclear. Seems backward thinking to me but that's their choice.
       Clinton has a briefing fact sheet which doesn't appear to be
       anti natural gas.
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       ...
       
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       agelbert > karen orlando  • 5 hours ago
       Talk is cheap. The WALK provides incriminating evidence.
       Emails Confirm Hillary Clinton Used Her State Department Role to
       Press Countries to Embrace Fracking
       Posted on May 28, 2016
       SNIPPET:
       The documents also reveal the department’s role in bringing
       foreign dignitaries to a fracking site in Pennsylvania, and its
       plans to make Poland a “laboratory for testing whether US
       success in developing shale gas can be repeated in a different
       country,” particularly in Europe, where local governments had
       expressed opposition and in some cases even banned fracking.
       The campaign included plans to spread the drilling technique to
       China, South Africa, Romania, Morocco, Bulgaria, Chile, India,
       Pakistan, Argentina, Indonesia, and Ukraine.
       In 2014, Mother Jones reporter Mariah Blake used diplomatic
       cables disclosed by WikiLeaks and other records to uncover how
       Clinton “sold fracking to the world.”
       The emails obtained by The Intercept through a separate Freedom
       of Information Act request provide a new layer of detail.
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       #Post#: 5213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 4, 2016, 7:28 pm
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       width=640]
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       [center]Frackopoly: The Battle [/I]for the Future of Energy and
       the Environment will be in bookstores this Tuesday, June
       7.[/center]
       [i]Emily Wurth, Food& Water Watch act@fwwatch.org
       
       Fracking isn't new. Oil and gas industry influence isn't new.
       But do you ever wonder how we got into this mess?
       Food & Water Watch Executive Director Wenonah Hauter's new book
       — Frackopoly: The Battle for the Future of Energy and the
       Environment — exposes the handful of corporations, financial
       institutions and individuals that have shaped the policies that
       keep us reliant on dirty energy sources. With the same forces in
       play, learning this history is critical to finally moving beyond
       fracking and fossil fuels.
       Our current crisis is no accident. It took over 100 years for
       the oil and gas industry to accumulate the power they still
       wield today.
       In a recent example, ExxonMobil’s own researchers were aware of
       the devastating climate impact of fossil fuel extraction and
       consumption in the late 1970s. Despite what it knew, ExxonMobil
       has spent $31 million since 1998 to fund climate-denier think
       tanks and politicians, while keeping its research out of the
       hands of the concerned public.
       The good news: We've already seen that the growing grassroots
       movement can overcome the biggest and the baddest efforts of the
       dirty energy industry. Communities are fighting back, and in a
       big way — and it’s been nothing short of inspiring.
       We put together this video to give a taste of what you’ll find
       in Frackopoly:
       [move]Take a look at the video, then sign the petition to stop
       the Frackopoly:[/move]
       [center]
  HTML https://youtu.be/BeGmMhfIJ4E[/center]
       Thanks for taking action,
       Emily Wurth
       Water Program Director
       Food & Water Watch
       ewurth(at)fwwatch(dot)org
       Emily Wurth,Food& Water Watch act@fwwatch.org
       #Post#: 5218--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 5, 2016, 6:28 pm
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       [move]The PERFIDY of the Energy Information Administration - EIA
       - Official Energy Statistics from the U.S. Government [/move]
       [center][img
       width=640]
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       [center]EIA  Fossil Fuel and Nuclear Power Friendly Charts
       Consistently Low Ball Renewable Energy[/center]
       These charts by the fossil fuel friendly EIA severely understate
       the Renewable energy share of U.S. energy consumption BECAUSE
       they ONLY measure REPORTED energy use, not NEGAWATTS (off grid,
       non-metered and efficiency based energy demand destruction). The
       Rocky Mountain Institute has reported that over one third of all
       global rural electrical production is now Renewable Energy
       based.
       So, why do I present these charts? Because even the EIA cannot
       disguise how Renewable Energy is taking market share away from
       the fossil fuel industry (although they do their level best to
       try).
       Notice the change from 2012 through 2015 and you will see
       evidence of the Renewable Energy caused fossil fuel demand
       destruction. This is also the main cause of the persistently low
       price of oil and gas driving, at last count, over 60 oil and gas
       polluters into bankruptcy.
       [center]
       [img
       width=280]
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       />[img
       width=360]
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       AS you can see, our loyal servants in the EIA were magnanimous
       enough to admit ONE PERCENT increase for Renewable Energy for
       2012 through 2015. Not only is that a bad joke, but excluding
       coal, it is downright embarrassingly defensive of the polluters
       from the fossil fuel AND nuclear power industries. WHY?
       First, despite the MASSIVE economic disruptions during that time
       and the MASSIVE increase in Renewable energy capacity during
       that time period, let us ass-u-me, as the charts claim, that the
       total energy consumption increased 2.7 quadrillion btu from 2012
       through 2015. They drop 2% off of coal but, despite  some
       closings of nuclear power plants, ADD a percent to nuclear
       power! But it gets better.
       Second, they REFUSE to lower the percentage for Petroleum while
       adding 2 percent to fossil "natural" (i.e. FRACKED) gas. The
       disclaimer about "the sum of components not adding to 100%",
       even though in the 2015 chart they DO add up, is ridiculous.
       They don't even update their boilerplate. These people have no
       shame.
       Third, they have the unadulterated brass to claim, not just that
       there was a ONE PERCENT ONLY increase in the Renewable Energy
       share of consumption rom 2012 through 2015, but that WIND POWER
       added a mere 2 percent of the Renewable energy mix in FOUR
       YEARS!
       Now take a look at 2014's fossil fuel and nuclear power friendly
       EIA chart next to the 2015 chart. They are DESPERATE to hide the
       massive increase in Renewables.
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       width=320]
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       />[img
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       2015 was a banner year for BOTH wind and solar power. 2015 saw
       massive demand destruction for fossil fuels causing over 60 oil
       and gas bankruptcies and cratering price of fossil fuels.
       Renewable energy use INCREASED while USE of fossil fuels due to
       a depressed economy and added Renewable infrastructure,
       DECREASED.
       YET, according to our EIA bean counters, there was NO INCREASE
       in the Renewable energy SHARE of consumption OR A DECREASE in
       the oil and gas energy share from 2014 to 2015! To make it look
       good, they took one percent away from petroleum and handed it to
       "natural" FRACKED gas. LOL!  Renewable Energy consumption is
       allegedly STILL only 10% after a BANNER YEAR!
       BULLSHIT!
       The EIA admits, inaccurately (remember they count only REPORTED
       energy from utilities, not negawatts), that 0.1 quadrillion Btu
       of Renewable Energy  was added. Point one quadrillion Btu DOES
       NOT CUT IT for a banner year in both wind and solar. They give
       solar a mere  2% increase and give wind, which REALLY jumped in
       2015, a mere ONE PERCENT increase in the Renewable Energy mix.
       BULLSHIT!
       The PRICE of oil and gas is not low because we are "consuming
       them at the same percentage"; it's low because we are consuming
       them at a LOWER percentage. The oil and gas pigs are not known
       for charitable gestures.
       The PRICE of Renewable Energy infrastructure is coming down from
       mass production and installation. The ratio of Renewable energy
       installation to fossil fuel based infrastructure new
       installation in 2015 (which has continued into this year) is 70
       to one.
       When the EV market takes off in 2017, the end will come quickly
       for the fossil fuel industry because they cannot make a profit
       when over 50% of the refinery product is for transportation
       fuels they cannot sell. And even without the loss of the
       polluting fuels product profit, the fossil fuel industry would
       self destruct without all their subsidy swag. But the EIA plays
       dumb about the all the pollution costs that we-the-people are
       paying.
       
       Renewable energy is easily already over 25% of total Energy
       consumption in the U.S., though the EIA will never admit it
       until they "revise" the data a couple of decades from now.  ;)
       Renewable Energy Growth Blows EIA Forecasts Out of the Water,
       Again
       by Ben Jervey, originally published by DeSmog Blog | Mar 14,
       2016
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       [center]EIA 2040 Forecast Understates Renewables, Policy,
       Contingencies[/center]
       April 20th, 2015 by Sandy Dechert
       MONEY QUOTES:
       So far more possibilities exist than those indicated by the
       narrow range of assumptions that EIA has included in this latest
       assessment. Respected voices are saying that America can, and
       should, get 100% of its energy from renewables by 2050, that 80%
       would be good enough, or 100% by 2100, or that 50% is attainable
       in the next 35 years, and so on. EIA’s limited focus can support
       none of these.
       The organization claims in Figure 4 to cover “scenarios that
       encompass a wide range of future crude oil price paths.” Great
       to have such a diverse oil perspective, but the exploration of
       renewable and other scenarios seems puny by comparison.
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       [center]EIA responds that it never told a lie, fudged the stats
       or gamed the predicted numbers to favor fossil fuels and low
       ball Renewable Energy. [/center]
       [quote]Turning to projections, some critics have argued that
       EIA's recent AEO Reference case projections have consistently
       understated the adoption of wind and solar power.
       A review of past performance of EIA's projections does not offer
       much support for this argument, particularly when it is
       recognized that AEO Reference case projections deliberately
       incorporate existing laws and regulations that are in effect at
       the time the Reference case projections are developed and do not
       attempt to forecast future policy decisions.[/quote]
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       Don't you just love that "does not offer much support for this
       argument"  pseudo erudite exercise in dismissive type fallacious
       debating techniques? Do all these fossil fuel tools go to the
       same school of double talk sophistry?
       The above defense is ludicrous in the light of the FACT that
       their projections for fossil fuel use and nuclear power have
       CONSISTENTLY IGNORED the ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS (that the EPA has
       danced around and refused to try to enforce or over 30 years,
       even though they ARE on the books) that militate for a REDUCTION
       in the energy market share of fossil fuels and nuclear power.
       NOT ONE closing of nuclear power plants was predicted by the
       EIA. Even the now vertiginous descent in coal use was NOT even
       remotely foreseen by these dirty energy defending tools, never
       mind the current descent in the demand for oil and gas (that
       they CONTINUE to low ball).
       And now they want to talk about legislation as the "logical"
       basis for their grossly inaccurate Renewable Energy projections?
       
       The EIA can come up with all sorts of hemming and hawing excuses
       about inconsistent application of laws favoring Renewables, as
       if that had beans to do with the ACTUAL Renewables track record
       of their installation and use (which is what unbiased energy
       experts use to project future use and market share), but give
       fossil fuels and nuclear power the most rosy energy use
       projection scenario as the "prudent" and "most realistic"
       outlook...
       But the last paragraph in their response PLAINLY states WHO they
       are going to defend in their cherry picking energy bean counting
       (hint - dirty energy producers = industry stakeholders):
       [quote]
       EIA continues to work with [size=14pt]industry stakeholders to
       ensure its assumptions and analytic methodologies provide
       accurate data and appropriate projections for wind, solar, and
       other renewables. A more extensive review of EIA's data and
       projections for wind and solar technologies is available in a
       recent EIA report, Wind and Solar Data and Projections from the
       U.S. Energy Information Administration: Past Performance and
       Ongoing Enhancements.
       Principal contributors: Chris Namovicz[/size][/quote]
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       Now you know why certain fossil fuelers love to quote the
       "reliability" of the energy use stats and projections from the
       EIA.
       Have a nice day.
       [move][I][font=impact]The Fossil Fuelers   DID THE Climate
       Trashing, human health depleteing CRIME,[COLOR=BROWN]   but
       since they have ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks,
       they are trying to AVOID [/color]  DOING THE TIME or     PAYING
       THE FINE!     Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on!
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 6, 2016, 1:40 pm
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       Thank you James
       Cromwell and John “J.G.” Hertzler of [font=georgia]Star
       Trek[/font] fame and 17 area residents. These fine people know
       that there isn't any way we can live long and prosper if we keep
       burning fossil fuels.
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       [center]Star Trek Actors Arrested, Call on Gov. Cuomo to Boldly
       Go Beyond Fossil Fuels[/center]
       Sandra Steingraber | June 6, 2016 12:52 pm
       Early this morning on a hillside above Seneca Lake, actors James
       Cromwell and John “J.G.” Hertzler of [font=georgia]Star
       Trek[/font] fame joined 17 area residents in an act of civil
       disobedience that is part of an ongoing citizen campaign against
       salt cavern gas storage.
       While blockading the main entrance to the Crestwood compressor
       station, the two actors urged Gov. Cuomo to stand up to the
       Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) for green-lighting
       an expansion of this fracked gas infrastructure project against
       overwhelming local opposition and for undermining the governor’s
       own stated commitment to a rapid transition to renewable energy.
       Starting at 6:45 a.m. and continuing until their arrests by
       Schuyler County deputies shortly before 7:30 a.m., the
       protesters blocked all traffic from leaving and entering the
       facility, including two Crestwood tanker trucks. All 19 were
       transported to the Schuyler County sheriff’s department, charged
       with disorderly conduct, ticketed and released.
       “The prettiest place I’ve ever seen is right here: the Finger
       Lakes region of New York … Governor Cuomo, we, the people, do
       not want to see these pristine lakes turned into cheap,
       contaminated, industrialized storage facilities for Crestwood
       and Con Ed. Stand with us, Governor!,” John Hertzler, 66, who
       played Klingon General Martok on [font=georgia]Star Trek: Deep
       Space Nine[/font], said.
       “Defend your own program for getting New York State off of
       fossil fuels and transitioned to renewable energy. FERC—the
       Federal Energy Regulatory Commission—seeks to keep us chained to
       the energy of the past and, in so doing, threatens our water,
       our lands, our safety and the very climate of this, our planet.
       Boldly go with us, Governor Cuomo, into a renewable energy
       future.”
       Hertzler lives in the Finger Lakes region with his family in the
       town of Ulysses where he serves on the town board.
       James Cromwell, 76, who played Zefram Cochrane in
       [font=georgia]Star Trek: First Contact[/font] and who was
       nominated for an Academy Award for his role as Farmer Arthur
       Hoggett in Babe, called on New Yorkers to join the We Are Seneca
       Lake movement.
       “FERC-approved fracked gas infrastructure projects are taking
       over our entire state—from the crumbly salt caverns of Seneca
       Lake, where the gas will be stored, to the pipelines and
       compressor stations that devastate our farmlands, wetlands and
       maple groves, all the way to the burner tips of the natural
       gas-fired power plants that are planned for downstate,” he said.
       “[quote]With all of New York under attack by the fossil fuel
       industry and by the rogue agency called FERC, all New Yorkers
       now need to stand up, stand together and say no.”[/quote]
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       [center]Photo credit: We Are Seneca Lake[/center]
       Referencing the films in which the two have appeared, protesters
       held banners and signs that read, “We Are Seneca Lake, Babe/And
       We Will Not Be FERC-ed” and “Trekkies Against Crestwood-Con Ed
       Boldly Going Toward Renewables.”
       The total number of arrests in the 20-month-old We Are Seneca
       Lake civil disobedience campaign now stands at 604.
       Crestwood’s methane gas storage expansion project was originally
       approved by FERC in October 2014 in the face of broad public
       opposition and unresolved questions about geological
       instabilities, fault lines and possible salinization of Seneca
       Lake, which serves as a source of drinking water for 100,000
       people. In spite of near-unanimous citizen opposition, FERC’s
       last-minute permit extension on May 16 gave Crestwood’s
       Arlington subsidiary another two years to build out its natural
       gas storage facility.
       Salt cavern storage accounts for only seven percent of total
       underground storage of natural gas in the U.S. but, since 1972,
       is responsible for 100 percent of the catastrophic accidents
       that has resulted in loss of life.
       Crestwood also seeks to store two other products of fracking in
       Seneca Lake salt caverns—propane and butane (so-called Liquefied
       Petroleum Gases, LPG)—for which it is awaiting a decision by
       Gov. Cuomo’s Department of Environmental Conservation.
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       width=640]
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       [center]John Hertzler. Photo credit: We Are Seneca Lake[/center]
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       [center]James Cromwell. Photo credit: We Are Seneca
       Lake[/center]
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       #Post#: 5244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 8, 2016, 6:26 pm
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       EIA talks construction cost, never mind what happens after it is
       built and DOES what it is DESIGNED to DO (i.e. GENERATE energy).
       
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       [center]EIA: Constructing  ;) a natural gas plant is cheaper
       than other options [/center]
       By Robert Walton | June 7, 2016
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       HAPPY TALK SNIPPET:
       [quote]
       •The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) recently began
       collecting data on the cost to construct electric power
       generators, showing gas capacity to be the cheapest widely-used
       generation
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       />and wind [img
       width=50]
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       />to be the least-expensive renewable resource.  ;)
       •In 2013, the first year for which the agency collected data,
       natural gas generation on a capacity-weighted basis averaged
       $965/kW
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       />, compared with $1,895/kW for wind and $3,705/kW for solar.
       •More than 7,400 MW of gas capacity was added that year,
       compared with 2,600 MW of solar and 860 MW of wind.[/quote]
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       Agelbert NOTE: Doesn't that sound so nice and objective? That
       sweet talk about wind being the Cheapest Renewable Energy source
       is the set up for the sucker punch chart they rigged showing the
       "natural" gas power plants as MUCH "cheaper".  And WTF is the
       idea of limiting the COST of infrastructure to the initial
       construction costs? HELLO? Power Plants operate for at least
       THIRTY YEARS! It's BOLD FACED mendacity and disingenuous
       duplicity to claim one system is "cheaper" than another just
       from initial construction costs! Talk about PICKING WINNERS by
       excluding pollution costs after operation begins!
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       And, by the way, it's 2016. What's with  the 2013 stats (2014
       and 2015 were BOTH BANNER YEARS for wind that saw construction
       costs GO DOWN!) to try to make Gas Power Plants look good?
       Then they have the brass to publish a ridiculous cost comparison
       chart excluding fossil fuel pollution costs!  [img
       width=40]
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       The "capacity" talk is a deliberate conflation of construction
       costs with generation costs to pull the wool over your eyes. The
       EIA
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       has
       no shame.  ANY study of capacity for ANY Renewable energy source
       in general, and wind in particular, evidences VAST more energy
       capacity than fossil fuel power plants BECAUSE the fuel is FREE.
       What these fossil fuel friendly bastards in the EIA are doing
       here is going back to "high energy density" of hydrocarbons to
       justify a gamed "capacity".
       In a sane world, the INSTANT you talk about energy density, you
       MUST talk about polluting products COSTS. If you don't, then you
       are cherry picking fossil fuels as WINNERS, PERIOD. [img
       width=80]
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       HERE'S what the fossil fuel friendly EIA does not want YOU to
       know:
       [quote][center]Wind energy is now as cheap as natural gas, and
       solar is getting close[/center]
       And it's only getting cheaper.
       BEC CREW  7 OCT 2015
       Wind power is now comparable in price to fossil fuels, and solar
       is well on its way, according to a new report that confirms
       earlier predictions that renewables aren't just the best option
       for the environment - they’re unequivocally the smartest
       long-term investment you can make on energy.
       The report, by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, found that in the
       second half of 2015, the global average cost of onshore wind
       energy will be $83 per megawatt-hour of electricity (which is
       down $2 from the first half of the year), and for thin film
       solar photovoltaics, the cost is $122 per megawatt-hour (down $7
       in the past six months).[/quote]
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       [quote][center]Natural Gas Health and Environmental
       Hazards[/center]
       Natural gas power plants are significant air pollution sources,
       releasing hazardous air pollutants, global warming pollution and
       fine particulate matter.
       [center]Natural gas is worse than coal for global
       warming[/center]
       While the smokestack emissions from gas-burning power plants are
       lower than coal, gas is worse because of the leakage from the
       wells to the pipelines and compressor stations to the end-uses
       -- since methane (the principle component of natural gas) is far
       more potent at heating the atmosphere than carbon dioxide (which
       is produced when coal or gas are burned).
       The newest science on methane's global warming potential shows
       that it's far more potent than previously thought:[/quote]
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       #Post#: 5248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 9, 2016, 4:55 pm
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       [center]Sierra Club Endorses Hillary Clinton[/center]
       Allison Chin, Sierra Club | June 9, 2016 12:34 pm
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       Agelbert COMMENT: Thank you Sierra Club, for paving the way for
       Hillary Clinton to remove any and all barriers to Fracking in
       the USA and the world, as she did during her tenure as Secretary
       of State.
       We are also pleased that Victoria Nuland is President Hillary
       Clinton's pick for Secretary of State.
       Thank you Sierra Club, for ensuring a huge increase in the price
       of fossil fuels (i.e. price shock bonanza!) from the war
       tensions that Victoria Nuland, neocon State Department queen of
       the [I]"let's go to war with Russia" group [/I]will joyfully
       generate.
       We are ready, willing and able to patriotically and in
       altruistic fashion (OF COURSE!), work arm in arm with the
       Clinton Administration to provide peace, prosperity and lots of
       cheap, clean energy to the world for the welfare of all
       humanity.
       [I]Signed,[/I]
       [I]Your Loyal Servants and Political Campaign Friends from
       Exxon, Schlumberger, Halliburton, etc. (you get the idea). [/I]
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       #Post#: 5278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 13, 2016, 6:49 pm
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       For those who can still add and subtract, the following FACTS
       about fossil fuel ERoEI thermodynamic efficiency (That is, the
       Fossil fuel ERoEI math, that Gail Tverberg and at least 54% of
       the Renewable Energy survey participants swear by, including
       Palloy, DELIBERATELY IGNORES THE FACT that, in the real world of
       the science of thermodynamics, Energy RETURN MINUS WASTE HEAT
       EQUALS work (as defined by physics) )  reveal the error of
       assuming fossil fuels have a higher ERoEI than Renewable Energy
       technologies.
       The fossil fuel industry originated disingenuous trick is to
       FIRST hammer the "high energy density" (excluding waste heat, of
       course) Hess Law based thermodynamics into us while avoiding
       discussions of waste heat like the plague. When they have
       established the FALSE MEME that fossil fuels have a "higher
       energy density" than Renewable Energy technologies, they
       cleverly create a false equivalence  between the cherry picked
       "higher" fossil fuels ERoEI and "higher" MONETARY Profits.  [img
       width=40]
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       Massive Fossil Fuel Industry Welfare Queen Subsides, COSTS to
       we-the-people, which are TOTALLY UNRELATED to ERoEI
       thermodynamics, ALWAYS make it to the "higher" MONETARY profits
       happy talk.  ;)
       However, the SCC (social Cost of Carbon), like waste heat
       thermodynamics, never gets included in the fossil fuel ERoEI
       happy talk OR the false equivalence "higher" MONETARY Profits
       fossil fuel happy talk, even though ALL MONETARY INVESTMENT
       DECISIONS, on which energy sources to use, are based on ALL
       COSTS.
       HELLO? Is anybody there?
       If we are going to talk about how much MONEY to invest in an
       energy source, based on how much MONEY it will cost to DO THAT,
       and how much MONEY we can get in a RETURN on our IVESTMENT, it
       is customary (if you aren't Gail Tverberg doing the [img
       width=80]
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       />bidding of the fossil fuel industry) to SUBTRACT all the COSTS
       of said energy source.
       
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       [/center]
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