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       Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Pollutio
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       By: AGelbert Date: June 17, 2014, 11:08 pm
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       [font=times new roman]The PRICE of burning Fossil Fuels ALWAYS
       has been too COSTLY for planet Earth's Life Forms.[/font]
       I maintain that fossil fuels, although presenting the appearance
       of cheapness, were and are not cheap or cost effective. The
       pollution price was always too high, even though we were not
       aware of it.
       What fossil fuels  really concentrated was political power to
       the detriment of democratic processes and the acceleration of
       conscience free predatory practices. Nuclear power was even
       worse because it began as a giant government jobs program (the
       Manhattan project) that has never   paid back the public for the
       forced investment. IT was and is a boondoggle from the word go.
       It's EROI, if you figure it properly, has always been negative.
       Blatant proof of that is the fact that private enterprise has
       always refused to insure those power plants and the government
       has always done it. It was a bad deal from the start. And no, we
       did not need or even want those power plants to help us make
       bombs. I have written about that here:
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       And the population increase was not due to fossil fuels but to
       advances in personal hygiene. You might allege that medical
       science obtained that information because of a fossil fuel
       funded increased living standard and leisure time but you would
       be wrong. The discovery of germs and the decrease in birth
       mortality from antiseptic procedures had nothing to do with
       industrialization.
       I have written about that:
       Hope for a Viable Biosphere of Renewables
       Why They Work and Fossil & Nuclear Fuels Never Did
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       The problem we have is really quite simple; a leadership that is
       math challenged. You simply cannot talk about infinite growth in
       a finite biosphere, period. Predatory Capitalism insists on
       doing that so it will have to go and humanity has to shed it's
       economical delusions of infinite growth or we will be the ones
       "going".
       The resistance to change is not simply a matter of resource
       availability, but who controls those resources. Fossil fuels and
       nuclear power destroyed the democratized world system of energy
       availability and concentrated it in a few greedy hands.
       Renewable energy returns the democratic state of affairs to
       humanity. AND, as a consequence, the proper use and stewardship
       of the biosphere because you do not have a small group
       devastating the planet while they live in luxury and delusions
       of infinite growth even as they spread war and misery and death
       through the biosphere. THAT leadership doesn't want their
       current gravy train to be derailed.
       The control of energy and resources in a small concentrated
       group of predatory humans is the problem that the industrial
       revolution brought us, not the happy myths of a tremendous
       increase in our standard of living or that "green" revolution
       the fossil fuelers, with there soil destroying chemical
       fertilizers, claimed we "owe" them for. Any analysis of current
       crop nutrition shows great  increases in size and yield and
       weight but [i]less actual nutrition[/I] because of the missing
       minerals from several decades of forcing the soil with chemical
       fertilizers.
       That's been documented by the United Nations even though most
       people still believe the "green revolution" baloney pushed by
       the fossil fuel industry.
       [b]We need fossil and nuclear fuels like a dog needs ticks with
       radioactive Lyme disease.[/b]
       Of course there is going to be pain in the transition. and you
       know who is going to feel it the most? The people at the top
       because they are the delusional ones, not most of the everyday
       people that have seen the beauty of the earth degrade, the
       cancer epidemic affect every family and respiratory ailments
       galore while we have been told for well over 80 years that
       "times are getting better and better".  We have been ROBBED. And
       now the rich do not want to pay the piper. At present, the
       United Nations has documented that less than 20% of the human
       population is causing over 80% of the damage. I think the rich
       owe us 80% of the costs to transition to 100% renewable energy.
       I have written about that too.
       Why the 1% is responsible for more than 80% of humanity's carbon
       footprint and why Homo sapiens is doomed unless the 1% lead the
       way in a sustainable life style.
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       For the rich, the meteoric rise in standard of living has been a
       profit over planet rampage of over 150 years. It 's time to stop
       that and go to 100% renewable energy.
       PETITION TO: Demand Liberty From Fossil Fuels Through 100%
       Renewable Energy WWII Style Effort
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       OVERVIEW:
       This action is important because the health and very survival of
       future generations depends on it. We must strive tirelessly to
       provide a Viable Biosphere for our children. They deserve as
       beautiful a planet as the one we have lived in.
       It's time to reverse all this environmental trashing and get
       real about the fact that sustainability is not optional for a
       caring, intelligent human population. We are the caretakers of
       the biosphere because we are self aware beings. It's high time
       we began living up to our responsibility to be good stewards of
       nature.
       "Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents,
       it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the
       Earth from our Ancestors; we borrow it from our Children."
       Ancient American Indian Proverb
       PETITION:
       Federal agencies have a target of making their buildings carbon
       neutral by 2030. We can do better, much better than that. We
       need a WWII sized effort for the health of our country and that
       of future generations.
       The Federal Reserve provides low interest loans for cars and
       houses. They can also, for the good of the economy and the
       future of our country, provide the same low interest loans for a
       nationwide massive effort to transition to 100% Renewable
       Energy. We did this before with the Liberty Ship building effort
       of WWII to help us win the war. We can win the Climate Victory
       with a "Liberty From Fossil Fuels Through Renewable Energy"
       massive manufacturing of Renewable energy machines. I have all
       the details and have prepared a poster campaign to get all
       Americans on board with the effort like we did during WWII.
       Mr. President, as you know, during WWII and up to this day, a
       banner was (and is) flown by Blue Star Mothers (son in the
       service) signifying their sacrifice and patriotic commitment to
       the national effort in the war front and the home front. Posters
       were widely distributed that asked people to save fuel with a
       mature lady (with the Blue Star Banner in the background)
       asking, "Don't you want our boys to have a chance to come
       home?".
       We can do the same thing now and get everyone on board to win
       the Climate Victory. The banner for all patriotic Americans to
       fly is the Green Leaf Star American in the Service of Future
       Generations" banner/flag.
       My first poster in the series has a lady (with the Green Leaf
       Star Banner in the background) asking, "Won't you give our
       children a chance for a healthy future?".
       The effort would provide an explosion of jobs and a real chance
       at an economy that bioremediates the environment, rather than
       trashing it. Everyone, rich and poor would benefit. It's a win,
       win, Mr. President, despite the fierce opposition you will
       encounter from the polluting nuclear and fossil fuels vested
       interests. We can no longer afford profit over planet business
       as usual.
       We all need to work together in the Service of Future
       Generations to regain a viable biosphere. Ubi jus ibi remedium.
       Let's get it done!
       Respecfully,
       A. G. Gelbert
       Green Leaf Star American in the Service of Future Generations
       Please sign the petition. The planet you save may be your own.
       
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
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       By: AGelbert Date: June 18, 2014, 9:16 pm
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       Why Sterilizing the Poorest 50% of Homo Sap Won't Solve ANYTHING
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       By: AGelbert Date: June 21, 2014, 2:57 pm
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       Why Sterilizing the Poorest 50% of Homo Sap Won't Solve
       ANYTHING!
       Brainwashed Propaganda Victims and Fossil Fuelers'  REACTION to
       the ABOVE:
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       The "Human Population Must Be Reduced" Propaganda Myth. Why it
       is a divide and conquer tactic and why it has absolutely no
       basis in scientific fact.
       [quote]
       "The total biomass of all the ants on Earth is roughly equal to
       the total biomass of all the people on Earth.
       How can this be?! Ants are so tiny, and we are so big! But
       scientists estimate there are at least 1.5 million ants on the
       planet for every human being. Over 12,000 species of ants are
       known to exist, on every continent except Antarctica. Most live
       in tropical regions. A single acre of Amazon rainforest may
       house 3.5 million ants."[/quote]
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       The Human biomass is tiny compared with thousands of species
       from insects to spiders to rodents, along with many marine
       creatures.
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       See for yourself the Evidence:
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       I will provide for you a couple of links for you to research but
       let me give you a brief introduction to earth's biomass pyramid.
       You have different trophic levels (life forms that eat other
       life forms to survive).
       The lower you are on the pyramid, the more collective mass you
       have as a segment of the biosphere. What does that mean?
       Here's a quote so you can see where I'm going with this:
       [quote]"An ecological pyramid is a graphical representation that
       shows, for a given ecosystem, the relationship between biomass
       or biological productivity and trophic levels.
       A biomass pyramid shows the amount of biomass at each trophic
       level.
       A productivity pyramid shows the production or turn-over in
       biomass at each trophic level.
       An ecological pyramid provides a snapshot in time of an
       ecological community.
       The bottom of the pyramid represents the primary producers
       (autotrophs). The primary producers take energy from the
       environment in the form of sunlight or inorganic chemicals and
       use it to create energy-rich molecules such as carbohydrates.
       This mechanism is called primary production. The pyramid then
       proceeds through the various trophic levels to the apex
       predators at the top.
       When energy is transferred from one trophic level to the next,
       typically only ten percent is used to build new biomass. The
       remaining ninety percent goes to metabolic processes or is
       dissipated as heat. This energy loss means that productivity
       pyramids are never inverted, and generally limits food chains to
       about six levels. However, in oceans, biomass pyramids can be
       wholly or partially inverted, with more biomass at higher
       levels."
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       Take insects as one example of the Laws of Thermodynamics as
       applied to life forms in the Biosphere trophic (food chain)
       pyramids.
       In order for insects to BE food for spiders as well as many
       other creatures, the biomass of insects has to be much, much
       greater because of the heat energy losses in transferring energy
       from the insect to the spider (about 90% is lost in heat). The
       predators (that's what we are, by the way) are at the top of the
       pyramid and have the least total biomass of all the life forms.
       Lions, tigers, sharks, whales, bears, wolves, etc. have a tiny
       planetary biosphere biomass in comparison with ants, earthworms,
       rodents, and krill (those tiny shrimp like creatures that whales
       eat). And the krill eat tiny nearly microscopic phytoplankton
       (that has more biomass than the ubiquitous krill).
       Mollusks, as well as ants and several thousand other species
       have a larger biomass than humans. I bring up the mollusks
       because they have a HUGE biomass. I studied them in depth in
       college Zoology.
       The phylum Mollusca:
       [quote]"The phylum Mollusca is the second most diverse phylum
       after Arthropoda with over 110,000 described species. Mollusks
       may be primitively segmented, but all but the monoplacophorans
       characteristically lack segmentation and have bodies that are to
       some degree spirally twisted (e.g. torsion).
       The Phylum Mollusca consist of 8 classes:
       1. the Monoplacophora discovered in 1977;
       2. the worm-like Aplacophora or solenogasters of the deep sea;
       3. the also worm-like Caudofoveata;
       4. the Polyplacophora, or chitons;
       5. the Pelecypoda or bivalves;
       6. the Gastropoda or snails;
       7. the Scaphopoda, or tusk shells; and
       8. the Cephalopoda that include among others squid and the
       octopus."
       [/quote]
       Agelbert Note: The biomass pyramid in the oceans in regard to
       mollusks and fish is NOT inverted. The oceanic "confusion" is
       due to the fact that some mollusks are apex predators like giant
       squid and the smaller mollusk predators like Octopodes that eat
       fish. Most mollusks are small to very small and are food for
       fish. They are the ones (bivalves near Fukushima) that
       concentrate radionuclides in their tissues that then get in the
       fish that eat them.  :( :P
       The smaller mollusks (most of them are less than a foot long)
       are FOOD for fish. That means there HAS TO BE much more of them
       than there are fish. And I'm sure you don't believe the human
       biomass is greater than that of all the fish species, right?  ;D
       .
       Now for some biomass weights:
       Human population = 335,000,000,000 kg.
       [quote]
       "Human population = 335,000,000,000 kg. This figure is based on
       an average human weight of more than 100lbs, though (50kg, to be
       exact).  I don't know how accurate this estimate is, especially
       considering that about 1/3 of us are children.  There are
       supposedly around 1.3 billion cattle in the world, and, put
       together, they may weigh almost twice as much as our species."
       Antarctic krill, [I]Euphausia superba[/I] =  379,000,000,000 kg.
       There are more ants than krill. Also, metabolism plays a role
       along with biomass. A "million ruby-throated hummingbirds will
       consume much more food than one African Elephant, even though
       both have about the same biomass (3,000kg, or 3.3 US tons).
       Thus, ants, as a group, may actually consume more resources per
       year than antarctic krill, even though both may have roughly the
       same biomass, because ants tend to be smaller, and live in
       warmer environments. Although there may be about 10-15 times the
       biomass of termites than cows in the world, studies have
       suggested that termites might produce almost 30,000 times as
       much methane per year because of their faster metabolism."
       [/quote]
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       As the article in the quotes above points out, humans are a huge
       problem, not because of our biomass, but because of our carbon
       footprint (I.E. the use of fossil fuels!).   And guess what
       portion of our population does over 80% of the Fossil Fuel
       consumption? You guessed it! The upper 20%!
       Who Done it?
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       The Global Compact: 20% using 80% of the Resources
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       To ACTUALLY address, confront and STOP the biosphere damage that
       Homo Sap is doing, we must face the scientifically confirmed
       REALITY that  if you get rid of the bottom 50% of the human
       population (the most poor among us) you will, I'm sorry to say,
       not even dent the pollution and biosphere destruction.
       AS pointed out in the biomass numbers, the amount of people
       eating and defecating is not the problem, CARBON FOOTPRINT is
       the threat to a viable biosphere. We must attack that problem by
       reducing the carbon footprint of the most powerful people on
       this planet.
       NOTHING ELSE WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM. The solution, in addition
       to a 100% transition to Renewable energy, involves eliminating
       corporate energy welfare queen subsidies for both fossil fuels
       and nuclear poison.
       Democracy and a viable biosphere requires it from all of us.
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       for the damage they do while attempting to give the rest of us
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       What we need to do is transition to 100% renewable energy as
       soon as possible. That will give our future generations a chance
       to live in a viable biosphere.
       If you agree please sign my petition and pass it on.  Here is
       the link to the Care2 petition to President  Obama:
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       Also, feel free to visit my forum and post on any subject you
       wish. Thank you.
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 23, 2014, 2:31 pm
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       Noble Energy Spills 7,500 Gallons of Crude Oil Into Colorado’s
       Poudre River
       EcoWatch | June 21, 2014 2:34 pm | Comments
       A storage tank attached to an oil well damaged by recent
       flooding spilled 7,500 gallons of crude oil into the Cache la
       Poudre River near Windsor in Northern Colorado, reported the
       Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (COGCC) late Friday
       afternoon. The oil well and tank are one of thousands that are
       placed too close to waterways in Colorado despite
       environmentalists’ attempts to fight the oil and gas industry
       and change state regulations to better protect Colorado’s lakes,
       rivers and streams.
       All the contents of the storage tank, 178 barrels of oil,
       spilled into the Poudre River. Photo credit: 7News Denver
       All the contents of the storage tank, 178 barrels of oil,
       spilled into the Poudre River. Photo credit: 7News Denver
       The spill impacted vegetation a quarter-mile downstream, but it
       appears no drinking water has been affected by the spill,
       according to COGCC spokesman Todd Hartman.
       “During the floods of 2013 this kind of damage occurred on a
       massive scale, but Governor Hickenlooper and the COGCC made no
       substantive changes in regulations to avoid this now or in the
       future,” said Gary Wockner who directs Poudre Waterkeeper, a
       local affiliate of the international Waterkeeper Alliance.
       “Until the people of Colorado wrestle power away from the oil
       and gas industry’s poisonous grip on our entire political
       system, this pollution of our waterways, homes and democracy
       will continue to occur.”
       The spill was discovered by the tank’s operator Noble Energy and
       later reported to the COGCC. All the contents of the tank, 178
       barrels of oil, spilled into the river. High river flows that
       undercut the bank where the storage tank was sitting way too
       close to the river, caused the tank to drop and breaking a
       valve.
       Clean-up crews are trying to absorb the spilled oil and a vacuum
       truck removed oily water from a low-lying area near the tank,
       according to a local news report. This spill falls right in
       front of an election on Tuesday, June 24, for a local moratorium
       on fracking in the nearby city of Loveland, and at the outset of
       a statewide ballot initiative in the fall of 2014 to further
       limit fracking in Colorado. Radio, TV and newspaper airwaves are
       under a deluge of advertising by the oil and gas industry to try
       and stop the moratoriums and ballot initiatives.
       “All you have to do is turn on the TV and watch the
       advertisements right now—millions of dollars are being spent by
       this industry poisoning our political system so that they can
       poison our waterways and homes to earn the greatest possible
       profit in the shortest possible time,” said Wockner. >:(
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: June 24, 2014, 3:17 pm
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       Hi,
       Representative Fred Upton (R-Mi6) says he supports an "all of
       the above" energy policy. This includes legislative favors for
       dirty energy's big-money interests, as well as Upton's five-year
       battle on behalf of the Keystone XL pipeline—which he claims is
       part of his "vision" for the nation's "New Architecture of
       Abundance."
       Upton’s constituents do not believe in his "vision." We see
       nothing new about continuing to spew fossil fuel exhaust. We see
       eternal abundance in wind and sunshine.
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       As Chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, Upton
       spins his committee's support for dirty energy as "protecting
       jobs" and "taking care of the economy." Meanwhile, bills that
       encourage commerce in clean energy die in Upton's committee.
       >:(
       Upton’s constituents understand that the nation’s interest would
       be best served if Upton’s committee would stop doing favors for
       dirty energy and, instead, would encourage the research,
       development, production, and delivery of clean energy—the kind
       of commerce that would clearly benefit the environment and the
       economy while creating true job growth.
       Upton, now in his fourth year as chairman, could have taken a
       leading role in the nation’s—and thereby the
       planet’s—all-important transition from dirty energy to clean.
       Instead, he lets renewable-energy initiatives die in his
       committee. Upton has forsaken his leadership responsibility and
       has capitulated to the big-money corporate interests that are
       pushing us toward our own extinction.
       That's why I signed a petition to Rep. Fred Upton (MI-6), which
       says:
       "Please stop pushing outdated big-oil energy solutions. As
       Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, you should
       be one of the nation’s strongest advocates for the business of
       researching, developing, and producing green energy, not black.
       If you can't take on that role, please retire."
       Will you sign the petition too? Click here to add your name:
       
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       Thanks!
       Bruce Brown  (petitionshare@moveon.org)
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
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       By: AGelbert Date: July 1, 2014, 12:41 am
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
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       By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2014, 12:20 am
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       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
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       By: AGelbert Date: July 7, 2014, 1:31 pm
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       Quakers Divest From Fossil Fuels
       Paula Kline, Fossil Free Friends  | July 7, 2014 12:09 pm
       [quote]“We understand that addressing the climate crisis is a
       moral imperative,” said Bruce Harrison of Westtown Monthly
       Meeting. “The divestment movement draws attention to the
       seriousness of climate disruption and the need to combat the
       powerful coal, oil and gas companies, which persist in resisting
       efforts to curb polluting carbon and methane emissions.”
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       You see folks, the Quakers live mostly in PENNSYLVANIA.
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       For
       those who don't know what Fracking has done, thanks to the
       environmental cost math challenged MKing's of this world (the
       fossil fuel loving crazies), just Google Frackcidents.
       Here's my search results for those, unlike MKing, who can add
       and subtract.
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       NOTE: fraccidents is a DIFFERENT search item. Do that one after
       the above one for more "externalized costs of fossil fuels" that
       WE-THE-PEOPLE get STUCK with.
       #Post#: 1501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: July 7, 2014, 7:52 pm
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       Along with everybody else out there that isn't bought and paid
       for or too propagandized by the fossil fueler planet rapists,
       The REAL Christians GET IT!
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       I just read from a Seniors web site (of mostly Bible believing
       Christians) the truth that ACTUAL Christians NEVER were supposed
       to agree to trashing the environment. All that mind fork
       injected into the so-called Fundies has absolutely nothing to do
       with Christianity and EVERYTHING to do with a pro-war, pro
       fossil fuel oligarchic propaganda exercise lasting more than a
       century.
       [quote] What's With That Dirty House Roof?
       We recently celebrated "Earth Day".. From my Christian
       perspective, I believe we have a deep responsibility to be good
       stewards of the planet that God has given for each of us to use
       for a few years. "This Is My Father's World" Have you sung that
       hymn at church? I have, since I was a wee boy, and that's a long
       time. So then, today might be a good time for each of us to ask
       if we have been responsible with "our Father's world". And, how
       can I be more responsible tomorrow?
       From a more practical perspective, what good is having all of
       the money or gold in the world, if we have destroyed our air,
       water, and land? Have you noticed how filth from the sky has
       fouled your roof, or the one next door. We didn't see so much of
       this just a few years ago. If you have a new home with a clean
       roof, just drive around and look at some 10-year roofs. Crud
       from the air has been deposited on roofs, and streaked by the
       rain.
       If it's on the roofs, it has also been sucked into our lungs. An
       awful thought. It's in our air, our water, our land. We have
       taken God's gift to us, and polluted it. So what can we do about
       it? You have the answers if you - - just stop for a moment to
       think about it. Now - - - ACT![/quote]
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       Now, consider the implications for the fossil fuelers all over
       the world WHEN, not IF, the Catholic Church DIVESTS of ALL of
       its billions and billions of dollars, rubles, yen, yuan, euros
       and whatever in fossil fuel corporations AND tells there
       followers over and over that NOT taking proper care (I.E.
       investing in or subsidizing DIRTY ENERGY) of the biosphere is a
       sin.... What are they gonna do? Call the Pope a Commie?
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       I don't think
       ANYBODY is gonna swallow THAT Propaganda TURD.
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       Yeah, they'll TRY;
       but it ain't gonna FLY!
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       [font=arial black]Pope Francis Calls Destruction of Nature a
       Modern Sin[/font]
       EcoWatch | July 7, 2014 8:02 am
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       Fossil fuelers
       here--->
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       #Post#: 1516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fossil Fuels: Degraded Democracy and Profit Over Planet Poll
       ution
       By: AGelbert Date: July 11, 2014, 1:24 pm
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       [move][font=courier]Barre Seid
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       Another one of those people the fossil fuelers admire for
       "DOING"  so much to "earn" their wealth and "honored" place
       among human apex predatory ****s.  >:(
       Yeah, I know. Despite the fact that I am part Jewish, I am about
       to be called an "anti-Semite"!
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       The pollution and GW we being assaulted with are SYMPTOMS of the
       DISEASE killing our biosphere, not the disease itself.
       If we don't seriously address this DISEASE of S**t Canned Ethics
       for Short Term Profits
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       of
       the fossil fuel FOOLS that are despoiling our biosphere and
       accelerating planetary pollution, the big die offs (including
       large segments of the human population) begin at 2030.
       The DIRTY ENERGY SOURCES long history of profiting from our
       blood and treasure while they despoil the biosphere.
       The following quote from a peer reviewed book is of extreme
       importance to all Americans:
       Dilworth (2010-03-12). Too Smart for our Own Good (pp. 399-400).
       Cambridge University Press. Kindle Edition.
       [quote]"As suggested earlier, war, for example, which represents
       a cost for society, is a source of profit to capitalists. In
       this way we can partly understand e.g. the American military
       expenditures in the Persian Gulf area. Already before the first
       Gulf War, i.e. in 1985, the United States spent $47 billion
       projecting power into the region. If seen as being spent to
       obtain Gulf oil, It AMOUNTED TO $468 PER BARREL, or 18 TIMES the
       $27 or so that at that time was paid for the oil itself.
       In fact, if Americans had spent as much to make buildings
       heat-tight as they spent in ONE YEAR at the end of the 1980s on
       the military forces meant to protect the Middle Eastern oil
       fields, THEY COULD HAVE ELIMINATED THE NEED TO IMPORT OIL from
       the Middle East.
       So why have they not done so? Because, while the $468 per barrel
       may be seen as being a cost the American taxpayers had to bear,
       and a negative social effect those living in the Gulf area had
       to bear, it meant only profits for American capitalists.
       "[/quote]  >:(
       Note: I added the bold caps emphasis on the barrel of oil price,
       money spent in one year and the need to import oil from the
       Middle East.
       This totally unjustified profit, never mind the needless lose of
       lives, then increases the power of the fossil fuel corporations
       to perpetuate a biosphere harming dirty fuel status quo. How? By
       "funding" politicians with rather large "donations" to keep
       renewable energy from competing with dirty energy.
       If all this was just about power politics, I might not be that
       concerned. Humans, particularly the overly ambitious and
       aggressive ones, have always fought and schemed to control and
       fleece the population at large.
       But now we know the future of our biosphere is at stake. Now we
       know the entire edifice of dirty energy is a knife in the back
       of the biosphere that will destroy our species and many others.
       The system, as defined by the fossil fuel fascist dystopia that
       currently runs most of the human affairs among the 1 billion
       population in the developed world that is saddling the other 6
       billion, who are totally free of guilt for causing it, with this
       climate horror we are beginning to experience, IS quite stubborn
       and does not wish to change the status quo.
       Mother nature will force it to do so.
       Whether it is done within the next two decades or not (i.e. a
       switch to 100% PLUS bioremediation Renewable Energy steady state
       economy) will dictate the size of the consequent die off, not
       only of humans but thousands of other species as well.
       We are now in a climate cake that has been baked for about 1,000
       years according to atmospheric, objective, proven with
       experimental data, science.
       If the crash program to switch to renewable energy is to begin
       soon, I expect the trigger for the crash program will be the
       first ice free arctic summer (according to my estimates) in
       2017. But millions of people demanding a transition to 100%
       renewable Energy will give us a fighting chance to win the
       Climate Victory.
       You can help us leave dirty energy sources that are killing us
       behind. I started a petition on Care2: Demand Liberty From
       Fossil Fuels Through 100% Renewable Energy WWII Style Effort.
       I'm hoping that if enough people sign my petition, we can make a
       difference. I have 271 signatures. Will you help me collect more
       by adding your name?
       Posters to download and print to publicize the petition:
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       Here is the link to the petition:
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       For those who don't wish to bother signing or are concerned for
       your "privacy". Hello? Hello? This is the year 2014! By 2030
       periods where the "Humid Heat Stroke Index" is so high that the
       human body can no longer maintain a normal core temperature will
       become common. Home Sap is on the short list for extinction!
       That is sorta more important than hiding from the NSA or the CIA
       now ISN'T IT? And I DO NOT see ANY of the home addresses or
       e-mail addresses anyway, Care2 does! So, if you CARE about
       future generations,  you  have ZERO excuse, unless you are a
       bought and paid for climate denying, war profiteering LOW LIFE
       GREEDBALL, for NOT signing.
       Sign this for the sake of common decency and future generations
       (and pass this on to everyone you care about to sign too!) or
       resign yourself  to the fact that you are a NIHILSTIC DEATH CULT
       ACCESSORY to the HOMO SAP SUICIDE.
       Petition link:
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