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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: October 3, 2015, 12:11 am
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       Drive Electric VT: It’s Time to Plug In, Vermont!
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       > Published on Jul 23, 2015
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       > Watch our video to learn how you can drive farther and cleaner
       with electricity. Vermont, it's time to plug in!
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       > Driving an all-electric or a plug-in hybrid vehicle means you:
       > - Spend the equivalent of $1 per gallon of gas
       > - Charge at home easily
       > - Enjoy access to 60 electric vehicle charging stations in
       Vermont
       > - Have a comparable car payment (and lower fuel costs)
       > - Drive safely—plug-in vehicles have excellent traction for
       winter driving
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       > Tell others about electric cars, clean energy, and paying less
       for your ride. Help us spread the word, share this video!
       > Drive Electric Vermont website:
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: October 11, 2015, 2:43 pm
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       [center]e-Golf on my wish list.  ;D[/center]
       [center]I checked out how the lease works here in Vermont in
       regard to the tax credit and sales tax.
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       The lease holder, the bank, gets the $7.500 tax credit. The
       person that leases the car has to pay sales tax (6%) on the
       portion (around 2/3 of vehicle value) when they begin the lease.
       If they buy the car at lease termination, they then pay 6% on
       the buyback. For someone that pays low income tax, a lease is,
       therefore, the only way to get the benefit of the full $7,500
       tax credit. When you do a buy back, you are not the first
       purchaser of the vehicle. Only the first purchaser is entitled
       to the tax credit. Sometimes a dealer will be the "first
       purchaser" on a floor model that is used for demonstration and
       test drives. You might negotiate a very good deal on one of
       those because they are technically "used" cars, even though they
       have less than 100 miles on them.
       The Attorney General of Vermont has some additional tips for
       people considering a lease.
       Here's a snippet:
       The Language of Leasing
       If you’re considering leasing, you need to know the terms used
       in a lease transaction. They are very different from the terms
       used in a sale, which is one reason why leasing can be so
       confusing.
       Capitalized cost is the price on which the lease is based. It is
       the price the bank or finance company pays the dealer, plus
       extras such as service contracts and insurance. You should be
       aware that this figure is negotiable, just as the price of a car
       you are buying is negotiable. The lower the capitalized cost,
       the lower your monthly payments and the lower the overall cost
       of the lease.
       Money Factor (also known as the lease rate) is similar to the
       interest rate on a car loan. It is a source of confusion for
       consumers, because it appears as a much lower rate. To compare
       it to an interest rate, you have to multiply it by 2400 (for
       example, a money factor of .00310 is the same as an interest
       rate of 7.4%).
       Ask what the "money factor" is. Dealers are not required by law
       to disclose this figure to you. However, it is an important
       piece of the picture, so you should ask what it is and determine
       if it is competitive. You may be able to negotiate a lower rate
       and thus bring down your monthly payment. If the dealer won’t
       disclose the money factor to you, you probably don’t want to
       lease your car there.
       Tips for Smart Consumers - Car Leasing -  A Message from
       Attorney General Bill Sorrell
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       Thinking about a new electric car, but not sure where to begin?
       We’d suggest you consider whether you want to purchase or lease
       your new plug-in vehicle.
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: October 29, 2015, 11:00 pm
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       [move][b]The Key to Cheap Electric Cars? Ditch the Steering
       Wheel
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       />Arcimoto SRK[/center]
       Mark Frohnmayer loves to drive. But he’s never quite been able
       to square that passion with his environmental concerns. He just
       found the idea of using a gas-powered, two-ton contraption to
       carry a single person a few miles each day absurd. Eight years
       ago—before the Tesla Roadster hit the market—he decided what he
       needed was a small electric car that could reliably carry him
       around his hometown of Eugene, Oregon and was fun to drive. He
       couldn’t find one, so he decided to design his own.
       The strange thing to Frohnmayer was that all the technology for
       building a practical, cheap, and safe electric vehicle were
       available. But no one had put all of the pieces together,
       despite the fact the potential market for such a product was
       huge, given the surging demand for cars in emerging markets like
       India and China. With Tesla focusing on the luxury market, he
       saw a big need for an affordable electric vehicle.
       It turned out, of course, that that was easier said than done.
       Over the past eight years Frohnmayer’s startup Arcimoto has
       shown off several quirky three-wheeled prototypes—Firefly star
       Nathan Fillion famously pre-ordered one in 2010 and talked it up
       on Conan a couple years ago. But the team struggled to hit on
       the perfect design that would enable them to bring the vehicle
       to the mass market. Now, eight years later, Frohnmayer and
       company have finally prototyped a “car” that he believes meets
       all his criteria and will sell for less than $12,000. The key to
       creating something that was cheap, efficient and comfortable, it
       turned out, was ditching the steering wheel.
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       [center]Arcimoto SRK[/center]
       The result of those efforts is the SRK, a two-seat,
       three-wheeled electric vehicle that looks like the spawn of a
       golf cart and an ATV. The company plans to begin selling it in
       late 2016 or early 2017. It’s officially classed as a
       motorcycle, which means it doesn’t have to meet the same
       rigorous safety standards as a four-wheeled car. But unlike a
       motorcycle with only two wheels, you don’t need to learn
       anything new to drive it (though you might need a motorcycle
       license in some states). It also has a protective shell, and,
       for an additional fee, it can be upgraded to a fully enclosed
       model. The prototype’s 12 kilowatt lithium ion battery has a
       range of about 70 miles, and can hit speeds of at least 85 miles
       per hour. And it can hit them fast: it can go from zero to 60
       miles per hour in only 7.5 seconds. It’s only 105 inches long,
       which means you can park it like a motorcycle, but it’s tall
       enough for Frohnmayer, who stands 6-feet-4-inches tall to sit in
       it comfortably.
       You won’t be able to use for family vacations or hauling lumber,
       but it should do just fine at commuting to work, picking up
       groceries, delivering pizzas, or just giving a friend a lift.
       For urban drivers—especially those in the dense, growing of
       India and China—it can cover a lot of what you’d need to do.
       And, yes, it’s a heck of a lot of fun to drive.
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       The Clever Version[/center]
       Of course the scrapyard of history is littered with the burnt
       out husks of failed electric car companies, and three-wheeled
       vehicles have a particularly bad record. But Tesla Motors
       co-founder Marc Tarpenning, an informal advisor to Arcimoto,
       says that Frohnmayer and his team’s sense of design sets them
       apart from the pack.
       “I get an almost endless stream of people wanting to talk about
       their latest thing,” he says. “I have seen a whole bunch of
       these three-wheel electric vehicles, but this happens to be the
       most clever version.”
       Before starting Arcimoto, Frohnmayer’s only experience in the
       automotive industry were a couple of summer internships at
       General Motors while studying computer science and electrical
       engineering at the University of California, Berkeley. He also
       spent some time interning for an electronics company in
       Indianapolis but decided large engineering teams weren’t for
       him.
       'I have seen a whole bunch of these three-wheel electric
       vehicles, but this happens to be the most clever version.'
       —Tesla Co-Founder Marc Tarpenning
       After graduation, he moved home to Eugene and landed a job at
       the video game company Dynamix before co-founding GarageGames in
       2000. The team sold the company in 2007, and he started Arcimoto
       with his cut of the sale.
       Fortunately, Frohnmayer, who now commutes to work on a OneWheel
       electric skateboard, doesn’t have to go it alone. While Oregon
       might not sound like a great place to start a car company, but
       it has been home to just enough automakers—such as Freightliner
       Trucks and RV company Country Couch—that he had a pool of
       qualified engineers and industrial designers Frohnmayer could
       tap to help turn his vision into real, drivable prototypes.
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       Only the Essentials[/center]
       Where Tesla has focused on adding everything a driver could
       possibly want, Arcimoto has worked to subtract everything that
       isn’t absolutely essential. The trick is determining just what
       is absolutely necessary and what isn’t. And for that, the team
       has turned to extensive market research.
       The original SRK design was too minimal. It would only carry one
       person and had no protection from bad weather. According to
       Arcimoto’s consumer research, the minimum requirements for a
       personal vehicle are a range of at least 60 miles, protection
       from the elements, at least two seats and enough oomph to drive
       on the highway. If the price is right, people are willing to
       give up stereos, cup holders, air conditioning, and giant
       touchscreen displays. That price, it turns out, is $12,000.
       One of the first issues the team had to solve in the early days
       was safety. To keep costs down, the SRK would have to be a
       three-wheeler. Although Frohnmayer says that proposed
       legislation to increase regulation on three wheel vehicles
       wouldn’t apply to the SRK, the company still needs to ensure
       that its vehicles are safe—especially given the lousy reputation
       of vehicles with three wheels.
       To deal with this, Arcimoto centered the battery and drivetrain
       at the bottom of the vehicle, much as Tesla Motors has done with
       the Model S. Of course, the final versions of the SRK will have
       to go through rigorous testing to verify their safety, but
       Tarpenning says most of this can be modeled in advance. “It’s
       all about where you put the center of mass,” he says. “If you
       put in the right place and get the balance right it’s going to
       be real stable.”
       [center]The Breakthrough[/center]
       Few companies have been able to pack even that meager feature
       list into a vehicle for that price. The Zero electric motorcycle
       doesn’t provide protection from the elements. Toyota i-Road only
       seats one person. The Daimler Smart Electric costs over $20,000.
       At $8,000, the four-door Renault Twizy is a contender, but so
       far it’s only for sale available in Europe or as an hourly
       rental in San Francisco (and the US version’s speed is capped at
       25 miles per hour).1
       It took seven years for Arcimoto to develop a prototype that
       included all of what it wanted. Even then, Frohnmayer was
       unhappy with the results. The SRK was still a bit bigger than
       the team had hoped. It was also uncomfortable to get in and out
       of, and passengers had to awkwardly straddle the driver. Then
       one rainy day last December, Frohnmayer had an idea. What if
       they replaced the steering wheel with handlebars like the ones
       found on motorcycles and scooters? He did some mockups and
       realized it would save a ton of space. So he went into the
       workshop the next day and suggested the team start all over
       again with a new handlebar-based design.
       At first the team thought he was crazy, says lead mechanical
       designer Jim Jordan. But his mind changed when he started
       running the numbers. Switching to the handlebar design would
       enable passengers to sit upright, slim the vehicle down by 500
       pounds, and shave 20 inches off the length, enabling it to be
       parked like a motorcycle—all without reducing the power of the
       engine. The simplicity could also have a major impact on
       manufacturing the SRK. While Tesla has been plagued by delays
       due to its incredibly complex supply chain, Frohnmayer says the
       SRK will have only around 1,000 parts, which will make it far
       easier to build.
       [center]Still Too Expensive?  ???[/center]
       But even at $12,000, the Arcimoto may be too expensive, warns
       Sam Abuelsamid, a senior research analyst specializing in the
       automotive industry at Navigant Research. After all, you can buy
       a Mitsubishi i-MiEV for about $15,495 after incentives (as of
       now, the 10 percent federal tax credit for electric motorcycles
       has expired). That extra few thousand dollars will buy you two
       more seats, an extra wheel, and the peace of mind that comes
       with knowing that your vehicle meets the more rigid safety
       standards set for four-wheeled vehicles—not to mention a vehicle
       engineered and built by an established automaker.
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       [center]Renault Twizy[/center]
       If Renault takes the Twizy worldwide, it could be a solid
       competitor to Arcimoto, assuming the legal hurdles are cleared.
       Meanwhile, China is producing its own patch of homegrown
       electric vehicles. And though Abuelsamid thinks it could find a
       niche in the US, he worries it’s simply too expensive for
       developing markets. “If you look at a market like China, India
       or South America, the up-and-coming customers, those markets are
       full of people who still get around on scooters,” Abuelsamid
       says. “But if you’re going after that customer, $13,000 might be
       too high a price.”
       Frohnmayer and company are already thinking about a new, lower
       cost version of the SRK for emerging markets. Thanks to the
       handlebar breakthrough, Frohnmayer thinks it might be possible
       to create a new, less expensive version based on cheaper lead
       batteries now that the overall weight and size have been
       reduced. But based on the company’s research, he and his
       investors are convinced that $12,000 is the sweet spot in the
       US. And Frohnmayer says the company will compete on more than
       just price. The SRK’s tiny footprint will make it more energy
       efficient than full-sized electric cars like the i-MiEV, which
       could be a big selling point.
       The purchase of a car or motorcycle isn’t a purely rational
       concern. There’s always an emotional component at play. The SRK
       may live or die based on the very first requirement that
       Frohnmayer set for the vehicle back in 2007: whether people
       think it’s fun to drive. Personally, I had a blast driving it
       around Eugene last summer. Its small size and open nature make
       driving even just 30 miles an hour feel like you’re flying. You
       might find it boring if you’re used to riding a motorcyle, but
       for those of us who spend most of our drive time behind the
       wheel of a station wagon, the SRK is liberating. But is it fun
       enough to win over the masses?
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       That’s
       the part of the company’s the business model that’s impossible
       to quantify.
       1 Correction 10/18/2015 at 10:00 AM ET: An earlier version of
       this story said that the Renault Twizy was not available in
       North America. It’s been updated with information that the Twizy
       is now available as an hourly rental in San Francisco.
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: December 4, 2015, 1:38 pm
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       [center]
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       [center]Pledge Signed to Make All New Passenger Vehicles Zero
       Emissions by 2050[/center]
       Simon Mui, Natural Resources Defense Council | December 4, 2015
       11:45 am
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       Better late than never, I guess.
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: December 4, 2015, 7:11 pm
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       [center]Toyota Launches Two-Seat i-Road In Tokyo[/center]
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       Editor’s Note: While Toyota may be dragging its feet on the
       full-sized electric car market, I have to admit that I’ve loved
       this i-Road thingie since I first laid eyes on it. I hope Toyota
       isn’t just fooling around and will bring this to markets
       worldwide at some point. Here’s more on the latest i-Road from
       Henry Lindon, via Sustainnovate. –Zach'
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: December 21, 2015, 6:01 pm
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       [center]Elon Musk Signs Open Letter Proposing Radical Fix to
       VW’s Emission Scandal
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       Cole Mellino | December 21, 2015 11:42 am
       A group of prominent green technology investors and advocates
       sent an open letter (see below) to the California Air Resources
       Board (CARB) Thursday. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, former eBay
       President Jeff Skoll, Sierra Club Executive Director Michael
       Brune, Carl Pope of Inside Straight Strategies and SolarCity CEO
       Lyndon Rive were among the 45 signatories urging CARB to rethink
       its plan to recall Volkswagen cars with emissions-cheating
       software.
       The letter urges the state’s emissions regulators to “abandon
       the plan to force Volkswagen to fix their emissions-cheating
       cars and instead require that the company put the resources it
       would take to accomplish that into transitioning to a
       zero-emissions car company.”
       The authors of the letter call the plan “costly and
       impractical.” They warn CARB against wasting materials and
       money, arguing that “a giant sum of money [will] be wasted in
       attempting to fix cars that cannot all be fixed, and where the
       fix may be worse than the problem if the cars are crushed well
       before the end of their useful lives.”
       Instead, they suggest mandating VW to “accelerate greatly its
       rollout of zero-emission vehicles, which by their very nature,
       have zero emissions and thus present zero opportunities for
       cheating, and also do not require any enforcement dollars to
       verify,” the letter reads.
       The authors cite “net greater carbon dioxide emissions, a
       regulated pollutant” as further reason for CARB not to execute
       its current plan, along with “compromise[d] performance” of the
       fixed vehicles. To heed its proposed alternative solution “would
       be a real win for California emissions, a big win for California
       jobs and a historic action to help derail climate change.”
       CARB declined to directly address the letter. “Our focus has and
       will continue to be cleaning the air and advancing the cleanest
       vehicle and fuel technologies,” CARB spokesperson Dave Clegern
       told Newsweek.
       Here’s the letter in its entirety:
       [center]An Open Letter to California Air Resources Board
       Chairman Mary Nichols[/center]
       The VW emissions scandal is mainly the result of physics meeting
       fiction. In the simplest terms, we have reached the point of de
       miminis returns in extracting performance from a gallon of
       diesel while reducing pollutants, at least at reasonable cost.
       Unsurprisingly, and despite having the greatest research and
       development program in diesel engines, VW had to cheat to meet
       current European and U.S. standards. Meeting future tighter
       diesel standards will prove even more fruitless.
       For a significant fraction of the non-compliant diesel cars
       already in the hands of drivers, there is no real solution.
       Drivers won’t come in for a fix that compromises performance.
       Further, solutions which result in net greater CO2 emissions, a
       regulated pollutant, are inappropriate for CARB to endorse.
       Retrofitting urea tank systems to small cars is costly and
       impractical. Some cars may be fixed, but many won’t and will be
       crushed before they are fixed.
       A giant sum of money thus will be wasted in attempting to fix
       cars that cannot all be fixed, and where the fix may be worse
       than the problem if the cars are crushed well before the end of
       their useful lives. We, the undersigned, instead encourage the
       CARB to show leadership in directing VW to “cure the air, not
       the cars” and reap multiples of what damage has been caused
       while strongly advancing California’s interests in transitioning
       to zero-emission vehicles.
       The solution we propose for VW and the CARB is to, in a legally
       enforceable form:
       1. Release VW from its obligation to fix diesel cars already on
       the road in California, which represent an insignificant portion
       of total vehicles emissions in the state, and which cars do not,
       individually, present any emissions-related risk to their owners
       or occupants
       2. Instead, direct VW to accelerate greatly its rollout of
       zero-emission vehicles, which by their very nature, have zero
       emissions and thus present zero opportunities for cheating, and
       also do not require any enforcement dollars to verify
       3. Require that this acceleration of the rollout of zero
       emissions vehicles by VW result in a 10 for 1 or greater
       reduction in pollutant emissions as compared to the pollution
       associated with the diesel fleet cheating, and achieve this over
       the next 5 years
       4. Require that VW invest in new manufacturing plants and/or
       research and development, in the amounts that they otherwise
       would have been fined, and do so in California to the extent
       that California would have been allocated its share of the fines
       5. Allow VW some flexibility in the execution and timing of this
       plan by allowing it to be implemented via zero-emission vehicle
       credits.
       In contrast to the punishments and recalls being considered,
       this proposal would be a real win for California emissions, a
       big win for California jobs, and a historic action to help
       derail climate change.
       The bottleneck to the greater availability of zero emissions
       vehicles is the availability of batteries. There is an urgent
       need to build more battery factories to increase battery supply,
       and this proposal would ensure that large battery plant and
       related investments, with their ensuing local jobs, would be
       made in the U.S. by VW.
       A satisfactory way to fix all the diesel cars does not likely
       exist, so this solution sidesteps the great injury and
       uncertainty that imposing an ineffective fix would place on
       individual diesel car owners. A drawn out and partial failure of
       the process will only exacerbate the public’s lack of trust in
       the industry and its regulators. By explicit design, this
       proposal would achieve, in contrast, a minimum of a 10X
       reduction in pollutant emissions as compared to a complete fix.
       There is a precedent for this type of resolution. In the
       industry-wide 1990 diesel truck cheating scandal, the EPA chose
       not to require an interim recall but instead moved up the
       deadline for tougher standards to make up the difference. This
       proposal does the same for VW and ties the solution to a
       transition to zero emissions vehicles.
       We strongly urge CARB to consider this proposal in resolving the
       VW cheating scandal.
       Ion Yadigaroglu, Partner, Capricorn Investment Group;
       Elon Musk, CEO, Tesla and SpaceX;
       Jeff Skoll, CEO, Jeff Skoll Group;
       Dipender Saluja, Partner, Capricorn Investment Group;
       Carl Pope, Inside Straight Strategies,
       Chamath Palihapitiya, CEO, Social Capital;
       Ira Ehrenpreis, Partner, DBL Partners;
       Hal Harvey, CEO, Energy Innovation;
       Antonio Gracias, CEO, Valor Equity Partners;
       Lyndon Rive, CEO, SolarCity;
       Michael Brune, Executive Director, Sierra Club;
       Cole Frates, Renewable Resources Group;
       Ari Swiller, Renewable Resources Group;
       Lawrence Bender, Producer, An Inconvenient Truth;
       Reuben Munger, Partner, Vision Ridge;
       Jigar Shah, President, Generate Capital Angel;
       Jason Calacanis, Launch Fund Partner;
       Gregory Manuel, MNL Partners;
       Adam Wolfensohn, Partner, Encourage Capital;
       Jason Scott, Partner, Encourage Capital;
       Martin Roscheisen, CEO, Diamond Foundry;
       Steve Westly, Former California State Controller;
       Jules Kortenhorst, CEO, Rocky Mountain Institute;
       Steven Dietz, Partner, Upfront Ventures;
       Kevin Parker, CEO, Sustainable Insight Capital;
       Anja Manuel, Partner, RiceHadleyGates;
       Larry Lunt, CEO, Armonia;
       Mindy Lubber, President, Ceres;
       Tom Darden, Partner, Cherokee Fund;
       Panos Ninios, Partner, True Green Capital;
       Jesse Fink, Chairman, MissionPoint;
       Matt Breidert, Senior Portfolio Manager,
       Ecofin; Suhail Rizvi, CEO, Rizvi Traverse;
       Jeffrey Tannenbaum, Chairman, sPower;
       Rob Davenport, Managing Partner, Brightpath Capital;
       Stuart Davidson, Chairman, Sonen;
       Laurence Levi, Partner, VO2 Partners;
       Rob Day, Partner, Black Coral Capital;
       Dan Fuller, CIO, Fuller Smith;
       Nicholas Eisenberger, Partner, Pure Energy;
       Marc Stuart, CEO, Allotrope Partners;
       Justin Kamine, Kamine Development;
       Peter R. Stein, Managing Director, Lyme Timber;
       Bruce Kahn, PM, Sustainable Insight; and
       Raúl Pomares, Capital Managing Director, Sonen
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       Agelbert Comment: Elon Musk is right. It's time to stop pu ssy
       footing around the reality of dirty emissions and the
       degradation of the biosphere and human health that they DIRECTLY
       cause.  Refining emissions from a polluting engine is like being
       half pregnant with Rosemary's Baby.
       The internal combustion engine HAS TO GO, PERIOD!
       Dr. Richard A. Houghton, acting president of the WOODS HOLE
       RESEARCH CENTER says TINA to a Low Carbon Economy[
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: January 3, 2016, 5:08 pm
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       [center]Mercedes F 015 Hydrogen Electric hybrid will have a
       range of 680 miles!  :o  ;D[/center]
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       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: January 5, 2016, 3:11 pm
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       >
       > Chinese-backed and their first plant will be in...get this...
       LAS VEGAS!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
       >
       > This is a sure winner.  Sign me up for some stock in this
       company.  ::)
       >
       > RE
       >
       >
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       >
       > Faraday Future unveils Batmobile-like electric concept car at
       CES
       >
       >
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       > Faraday's FFZERO1 concept car was unveiled at CES in Las
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       > Andrea ChangAndrea ChangContact Reporter
       >
       > The wait is over.
       >
       > Faraday Future, the secretive Chinese-backed Gardena
       automaker, finally unveiled its first concept car at CES: a
       sleek, silver-and-black Batmobile-esque electric vehicle called
       the FFZERO1.
       >
       > The 1,000-horsepower car was revealed Monday night during a
       launch event attended by hundreds of media. It can accelerate
       from zero to 60 in fewer than three seconds, with a top speed of
       more than 200 miles-per-hour.
       >
       > Richard Kim, Faraday's head of global design, called the
       vehicle a "high-performance electric dream car" designed to
       "fight ugliness."
       >
       > With its single-seat configuration and, if it ever goes into
       limited production, almost certain sky-high price tag
       (executives didn't comment on financials), the FFZERO1 concept
       car won't become ubiquitous anytime soon.
       >
       > Nick Sampson, Faraday's senior vice president of research and
       development and product development, noted that when Faraday
       does release its first production car to market in a couple of
       years, it will be something more approachable. The car might be
       a sedan or maybe an SUV, although he noted that it will start
       out as a premium product, with a premium price.
       >
       > Over time, Faraday would like to produce a car that is more
       affordable, he said.
       >
       > Although a production vehicle is still a ways out, Faraday has
       generated significant buzz since its inception 18 months ago. In
       that time, it has grown to 750 employees worldwide and recently
       announced that it would build its first manufacturing facility
       in North Las Vegas.
       >
       > Faraday will break ground on that site in the next few weeks;
       when it is completed, it will be 3 million square feet and house
       4,500 workers.
       >
       > Faraday's mission, Sampson said, is "a complete rethink of
       what mobility means." It wants to bring a speedier,
       technology-driven focus to car-making modeled after the
       innovations coming out of Silicon Valley.
       >
       > "We must anticipate the future and act upon it with speed,
       decisiveness and a willingness to be more like a technology
       company rather than an automotive company," Sampson said. "We
       have a very transformative vision."
       >
       > The hype surrounding the company has also led to speculation
       that it could become a real rival to Tesla. Faraday execs
       appeared to welcome those comparisons, and took a few gentle
       jabs at the fellow SoCal automaker.
       >
       > "Tesla and Elon Musk have created something incredible and we
       should applaud them for it," Sampson, who formerly worked at
       Tesla, said. But he noted it took Tesla nine years to develop
       its first mass-market production vehicle, while Faraday is
       moving at a much faster rate, from rapidly scaling up its
       workforce to attempting to roll out a car in a couple of years.
       >
       > And he was quick to point out that Faraday has hired several
       employees who used to work at Tesla, Apple, Google and BMW.
       >
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       #Post#: 4283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: January 6, 2016, 9:35 pm
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       New report: Electric cars, buses, boats will be everywhere by
       2026  ;D
       Sami Grover (@samigrover)
       Transportation / Cars
       December 30, 2015
       
       I've been documenting my experiences with a used Nissan Leaf,
       and I often reflect on just how quickly electric vehicles are
       becoming a mainstream transportation option. True, they are
       still a rare sight compared to their gas and diesel
       counterparts, but I am no longer surprised to see several Leafs,
       Teslas and Volts each time I leave my home. (It does help that
       my neighbor over the road drives a Volt.)
       If a new report from the analysts at IDTechEx Research is to be
       believed, it looks like this trend is set to not only
       continue—but increasingly it will accelerate and expand into all
       sectors of the transportation industry including industrial
       vehicles, boats, planes, buses and more.
       According to Business Green's write up of the report, the growth
       between now and 2026 will be "breakneck"—with the total market
       eventually reaching $500bn by 2026.
       Interestingly, given how much we TreeHuggers prefer electric
       buses and worry that electric cars still perpetuate bad
       planning, the report sees much of the growth (and profitability)
       coming from industrial and commercial electric vehicles as more
       cities aim to tackle chronic air pollution.
       The report also suggests that commercial and industrial markets
       will be less vulnerable to policy changes than electric cars
       which, for now at least, are still fairly dependent on tax
       breaks and/or subsidies to compete with their gas-fueled
       counterparts. (Of course, this wouldn't be the case if the
       price of gas matched its true cost... )
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       Agelbert NOTE: [/b][/i][/size][/color] And what do the fossil
       fuelers say?  ???
       They say. "But, but, Saudi Arabia
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       />says that 94% of cars will be powered by gasoline by 2040.
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       />So, it must be true, because the fossil fuel industry, known
       for
       such integrity in energy statistics and sources and NEVER, NEVER
       telling a fib for oil or money  ;),  SAYS SO.
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       #Post#: 4286--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Electric Vehicles
   DIR By: AGelbert
       Date: January 7, 2016, 5:23 pm
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       This applies to internal combustion powered vehicles. I post it
       here to underline the fact the electric vehicles powered with
       renewable energy derived electricity are the only real world
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       (when ALL costs are
       figured) method of transportation for human civilization. The
       continued manufacture and sale of internal combustion engines
       for transportation, unless they are powered by ethanol, profit
       polluters that have degraded our democracy and our biosphere.
       That is stupid.
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       The video below is from 2012 but the polluting facts AND COSTS
       in regard to fossil fuels still apply, even if the nominal price
       at the pump is now much lower.
       It is interesting to note that they discuss costs of fossil
       fuels caused pollution in Los Angeles, which now will be MUCH
       HIGHER, thanks to the Aliso Canyon Fracked Gas Blowout that
       cannot be plugged until March of 2016.
       The shills for fossil fuels like Nicole Foss and Gail Tverberg
       have consistently denied the thermodynamic and pollution cost
       FACTS in the video because it is their JOB to LIE and DECEIVE on
       behalf of the Fossil Fuel Corporate Welfare Queens. Bought and
       paid for "energy experts" like Nicole Foss and Gail Tverberg are
       worthy of disdain and derision. Their lies will eventually catch
       up with them. But, unfortunately for the biosphere, they will
       always have a loyal following of dirty energy prefering, status
       quo worshipping, ethics challenged fools who listen to them.
       
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       [center]The True Cost of Gasoline is Closer to $15 a Gallon
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       SNIPPET from 2012 article accompanying the video:
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       >
       > The video above, from the Center for Investigative Reporting
       does a good job of explaining how those costs are
       incurred—though it doesn't mention a few things, like the cost
       of maintaining a military presence in volatile, oil-exporting
       regions. Which means that the true cost of gas may be even
       higher than $15 a gallon ...
       >
       > And that means that we should probably be looking for a way to
       make the market better reflect those true costs, while buffering
       those who'd be hurt most from such a spike—that's one of the
       reasons that fee and dividend is such a clever policy idea.
       >
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