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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 16, 2017, 9:31 pm
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 26, 2017, 7:19 pm
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Not Your Grandfather's Trailer
Ray Doughty
Published on Jan 22, 2016
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 26, 2017, 9:11 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: The video is a bit dated but the info is still
valuable. Learn why manufactured homes are routinely a lot
tighter than stick built homes. 8)
[center]How It's Made Explores the Merits of a Factory-built
home [/center]
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FleetwoodHomes Inc
Published on Jan 2, 2013
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Manufactured Homes
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 27, 2017, 2:02 pm
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 27, 2017, 4:28 pm
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[quote author=David B. link=topic=10436.msg143355#msg143355
date=1514349580]
The first video you posted would be what we call a manufactured
home up here and they are more and more popular. They usually
come as modules of any number necessary in all shapes and sizes.
I've built frost walls for 2 of them. My part ended there. The
second one is what I think of when I think trailer home or
double wide. That one as shown was quite poor thermally but it
was an old video and probably built for somewhere warm. One
company I like is this one :
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They are pretty cutting edge but pricey. I'll stop this here
since LD probably cares not at all about our various views of
home construction since this thread was originally about
trucking.
Cheers, David B
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David,
The only type of home I am are intested in discussing is a
singlewide manufactured home. I agree that Canadabuilds makes a
good home, but LD does not need that type of super insulation or
high price per square foot. The whole idea of going for a
manufactured home is to avoid the inflated, and totally
unjustified, stick built price per square foot. The videos I
posted both show advantages that stick built homes will never
have.
My home is a Pine Grove. They make very good, but not pricy,
manufactured homes. Here are the details on the construction
standards and materials on a 3 bedroom 2 bath that they now
make. These same standards are part of my 17 year old home. That
said, they don't currently market to South Carolina (Pine Grove
makes homes with strong roof load design for snow so LD probably
would not want that home anyway). I present this home as an
example of real world excellent quality equal to or greater than
a stick built, but with a much lower price per square foot. I
suggest you adjust your thinking and stop generalizing about
manufactured home quality and price.
Pine Grove PA 17963
Phone: (570) 345-8600
Web: www.pinegrovehomes.com
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3 Bedroom 2 bath singlewide made by Pine Grove: G16-612 - 16' X
76' - 1,165 SQ. FT.
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Pine Grove Homes is located in Pine Grove, Schuylkill County,
Pennsylvania. Our homes are marketed throughout the northeast
and mid-Atlantic regions of the United States.
For info on Pine Grove dealers near you and availability and
price of the Pine Grove G16-612, fill in this contact info:
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Note: Any home receiving a site-built garage (or other
structure) MUST meet all egress requirements for exterior doors.
A third exit door may need to be installed in the home in order
for it to be in full compliance. See below for more details.
All representations and descriptions of the Pine Grove product
are believed to be accurate at the time of publication. Due to
continual product improvement and changes in design, we cannot
guarantee exact duplication of every product shown herein. Model
availability and specifications may change without notice. Your
Retailer, an independent contractor who is not an agent of
Pleasant Valley Homes, is the party responsible for your
purchase contract and any additions, deletions, alterations, or
attachments made to or in your home.
Garage Notice:
Pine Grove manufactured homes are built to the standards as
established by the manufactured housing HUD building code.
Please note that any home that will have a site-built garage
added to it will need to have three exterior doors in order to
meet egress requirements as established by HUD (one which
provides access to the garage and two which provide immediate
access to the outside of the home). There are rules in place
governing where these doors can be located within the homes and
all designs will be subject to final approval from the
engineering department to ensure that the home will be in full
compliance following the addition of the site-built garage.
General:
All representations and descriptions of the Pine Grove Product
are believed to be accurate at the time of publication. Due to
continual product improvement and changes in design, we cannot
guarantee exact duplication of every product shown herein. Model
availability and specifications may change without notice. Your
Retailer, an independent contractor, who is not an agent of Pine
Grove Homes, is the party responsible for your purchase contract
and any additions, deletions, alterations or attachments made to
or in your home.
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David, what you think of in any house is what you should think
of in a manufactured home. There is no valid assumption about
the level of insulation or lack of that merits your
generalizations about double wides and so on. The following
infographics are what you should be referencing when you think
of manufactured homes in the USA. Please stop generalizing.
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 28, 2017, 12:44 pm
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[quote author=luciddreams link=topic=10436.msg143448#msg143448
date=1514470320]
I certainly won't complain about any of the well thought out
advice and information that I get here on the Diner. I value
all of the experience, insight, knowledge, and expertise that I
get here, and that is why I always come here with big decisions.
I respect everyone's opinion even when I do not agree (contrary
to RE's assertion).
On matter of what I'm going to do about a home...well...I'm
currently up in the air with it. What I do know is that I'm
going to be mortgaging something. I'm going to do that because
that will result in a lot more for less to the same amount of
money that I'd pay to live in an apartment here. A decent
apartment in my area will run about $900 a month in rent, and
that would be the cheapest option that we'd care to live in.
While I'm aware that there are benefits to apartment living,
such as low utilities bills and no responsibility on upkeep for
appliances, plumbing, electrical, etc etc..., typically only one
year lease agreements, and no mortgage. I'm also aware, having
lived in apartments for most of my life, that it also comes with
shitty neighbors who make lots of noise and complain about ****,
no land for gardening, no storage buildings for tools and such,
next to no privacy outside of the dwelling, and a lot of time
maintenance staff and admin who give less then two shits about
anything other then getting the rent on time. Even still, I'd
be willing to live in an apartment...my wife however is not.
That takes apartment living off of the table for me. Besides,
I'd rather not rent because you pay more to rent then you do to
mortgage.
The only question left for me is what am I going to mortgage?
Currently I'm entertaining all options. My bank told me I need
a 680 for my credit score. It's currently 650 and slowly
rising. Very slowly. Those fuckers are a bunch of bastards and
the credit score game is a loosing one if you are a consumer.
The rules make no sense unless you are a coked up banker. I
really don't care to play, but I have little choice in the
matter.
I'm game for the manufactured home if I can get one that's not a
piece of ****. Apparently that can be difficult but it's
possible as Agelbert has demonstrated. Currently I'm looking
into stick built houses for sale as well as manufactured home
options. The main benefit for me, with a manufactured home, is
that I can have one plopped down on my mom's 11 acres. That is
the most appealing option for me as finding a house is going to
result in less land in a place that will likely not be as ideal.
120k is the max I'm willing to finance because it's the max I
can afford on my current salary. It's also the max I could
afford to hustle to pay given I return to the gig economy.
Which is likely at some point.
Another important tidbit on this entire discussion ties the
thread together. I went trucking to get us our own home. I
needed the W-2 to mortgage something. Once I acquire said
mortgage I may well decide that working for the man is now a
waste of my time and return back to Ancient Earth Landscaping,
bamboo, permaculture, and herbal medication ;D
Truckin' is likely a temporary strategy for me...although I am
paying 4% into a 401k so...I'm keeping all of my options open.
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As you have realized, the credit score thing is a perverse game
that lenders play. It is a perverse game because they PRETEND
that all they care about is your ability to pay. That is a
half-truth at best and normally a total lie. All they REALLY
care about is whether they can make money off your collateral if
they are in a position to foreclose on said collateral.
As I mentioned in the latest PM, lenders are risk averse. If
they see the risk is low, they then go to the next step of fun
and games. That is the credit rating fun and games they use to
do TWO things:
1) Tell you how much principal they will lend you.
2) Tell you what interest rate you must pay according to your
"credit" score.
WHY do I say that the above are pervese, fact free fun and
games? Because they have access to capital for lending that DOES
NOT EXIST in the real world. It is invented out of whole cloth.
Lenders are the parasites of the fractional reserve, ex nihilo
money creation world. What they are "risking" is ALWAYS MUCH
LESS than the assessed value of the property they are lending
you money (less than 50% all the way to about 10%) for. But
enough of my rant. ;D
I learned there is a bit of a buyers market near you down in
Lugoff for repossessed stick built homes. I don't know a thing
about Lugoff, SC, but you probably do. There are probably some
excellent deals down there, if you are inclined to live there.
8)
Back to the lenders: P.I.T.I. (Principal Interest Taxes
Insurance) for your home monthly payment is the bottom line
number that you want to limit to 25% of monthly income, as well
as limiting the total home principal to 2.5 times your annual
income.
Every day that you are alive on planet Earth is another day
that, although some here argue otherwise ;), you ARE paying
P.I.T.I., whether you rent or "own". The idea, as you have
realized, is to make do and be able to save a reasonable amount
each month.
I'm working on the lender picture. I'll get back to you. You are
doing fine. Rome was not built in a day.
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 28, 2017, 4:07 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This home is 17 years old. However, they added a
new roof in 2014. That means that they did not have serious mold
or other problems with the structure at that time, or they would
have just tried to replace it or sell it then. Provided the roof
was done properly (metal is better than asphalt shingle, but
either one done properly should last at least 20 years), this
home on a half acre is a great deal. :icon_sunny:
If the roof was not done properly, this home is a problem home.
I would have an inspector look over this home from top to bottom
with a fine tooth comb. It's worth the money the inspector will
charge. Also, the realtor states that this is a "motivated"
seller. This can mean the owner wants to move soon due to job
issues OR the home is rapidly deteriorating. There can be other
reasons for a person being "motivated" (realtor parlance for
"they'll consider a lower offer"), but I think the ones I
mentioned are generally applicable to manufactured home owners.
I looked at it in Google Earth and it does not appear to be
manufactured home. Yet, the picture in the Trulia web site looks
like that of a manufactured home (It appears to have skirting).
You be the judge. 8)
All that said, if you don't mind the sound of a train going by
routinely ;D, this looks like a nice family home.
2386 Green Hill Rd
Lugoff, SC 29078 3 beds
•2 baths
•1,440 sqft
•0.50 acres lot size
•Single-Family Home
For Sale $46,900 Est. Mortgage $280/mo
Home Details
Single-Family Home
3 Beds
2 Baths
Built in 2000
23 days on Trulia
0.50 acres lot size
1,440 sqft
$33/sqft
182 views
Description
Investor alert! 3bd/2ba home in Lugoff. New roof 2014. Walk in
closet in all bedrooms. Kitchen appliances to remain. Great
Investment. Motivated Seller. ;)
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: December 28, 2017, 4:13 pm
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Lugoff versus Spartanburg, SC living costs are about the same:
Agelbert NOTE: It appears that the Lugoff buyers market is a
recent phenomenon because the stats. show Lugoff as slightly
more costly for housing than Spartanburg (though they are both
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Spartanburg, SC
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
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By: AGelbert Date: January 14, 2018, 3:49 pm
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[center]If you think it all ends here, you will consider risking
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I was faced, one day at a beach family outing when I was 34 with
2 small children, with a life or death situation. My dentist
brother in law, an expert swimmer and scuba diver, was drowning
in a rip current and 14 ft high wave breakers.
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It was afternoon and my sister had scolded her hubby because he
was reading a book on dental practice instead of "playing with
his children like my brothers do". John wasn't feeling too great
that day but he responded to the henpecking by going in. I had
noticed that the tide was going out and some rather large
"lumps" on the water surface indicating rapid current (about 8
inches high in otherwise calm water in a tide pool) were visible
and I said, "It looks kind of rough out there".
He said he could handle it and it would be okay. My sister just
looked at me crossly. John went in and was playing with some
kind of raft with his kids that would just reach the surf at the
edge of the opening in the tide pool lagoon and swing back in.
I knew that dynamic was going to change and the outgoing tide
would soon try to suck anyone near the reef opening at the edge
of the tide pool lagoon (about 50 yards from shore) into the
surf and rip tide. I told my wife to gather up the kids and keep
them out of the water. I sat on the beach while John began to
drown.
My 36 year old brother and Vietnam vet, Larry, who had supported
John in this dangerous game when I appeared concerned, now froze
on the shore with a worried look on his face. Somebody grabbed
the small raft his 8 year old son was on and managed to get it
to shore (it was some good samaritan with red hair in the water
that we never did talk to later).
Larry, over his momentary paralysis and spurned to action, ran
up to me and said we had to get John. He had a big of piece of
driftwood for floatation. He rushed to the shore and waited for
me as the seconds ticked by and John was floundering, unable to
swim to shore.
I stood there a second and thought to myself, "You know, you are
going to die out there." I answered my own thought , "If I stay
here, I'll never be able to live with myself so God will have to
decide if I make it through this or not". The fear was momentary
and rational. I dispensed with it with a practice I had of
sticking to my principles come hell or high water. It wasn't
heroics, it was habit. And BABY, this was HIGH WATER!
My wife later said we looked like children in the waves because
they were so big. So Larry and I hyperventilated for about 20
seconds to get some extra oxygen in our lungs and dove in. My
bro lost the driftwood in the turbulent water (just as well - it
could have bopped us on the head and killed us). We got to John
lickity split. Getting to him was like being on a river in the
right direction.
Of course when we got to him, we had to turn around and try to
hold his head above water. The moment we reached him and I said,
"We've got you, John", he gave up. His head went under and I was
under too and watched bubbles coming out of his mouth and his
body totally relaxed. We pulled him up only to be slammed by the
most god-awful monstrous wave power I have ever experienced. My
femur bones were being bent by the force of the turbulence! My
fear returned with some terror thrown in. We had to fight to get
back up to the surface only to be slammed back down by a new
breaker. All the while we were trying to swim to shore and
getting weaker. After one particularly powerful wave, I looked
at my brother and yelled, "We're going to DIE out here!". Larry
yelled, "A man has to think of himself!".
Our only chance to make it to shore was to let John go. We did.
I glimpsed him floating away underwater. That was the most heart
tearing, sad and anguished moment of my life all wrapped up into
one desperate attempt to survive with my principles intact.
We began swimming to shore with the waves still sending us down
a couple of seconds after surfacing. The salt water mixing with
my breathing felt like fire burning my throat trachea. The
people on shore didn't get closer. I lost sight of Larry. I was
yelling "Praise the Lord" even as I ran out of energy in those
brief moments on the surface.
Larry, much stronger than me and an agnostic, was concentrating
on getting back to shore by cursing the ocean, the waves , the
current and whatever else he could think of to keep himself "mad
enough" to keep fighting for his life (I learned this from him
later as I could not hear him in the tumult at the time).
About 15 minutes into this ordeal, I lost all my energy. I
couldn't speak and I couldn't swim. I would send the commands to
my arms and legs and they just WOULD NOT MOVE! I was in very
good shape at that time of my life and had no muscle cramps or
anything like that. I sank into the depths.
I made myself a promise that, even though I was sure to drown, I
would absolutely refuse to breathe until my autonomic response
kicked in after losing consciousness; I wasn't going to DO that
burning throat thing any longer (later on my doctor said that
saved my life but I'm not so sure). I began "breathing" by
pushing the air in my mouth into my lungs and back. I thought of
my wife and kids and asked God to take care of them.
I was totally convinced I was a goner. For some reason, I
stopped feeling that urgency to breathe. Perhaps it was
something like the nitrogen narcosis that divers get but that
only happens at depth with scuba gear. I think the Guy upstairs
gave me a break here (You know, that "sky God" so many people
these days don't believe in).
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I became quite relaxed, still unable to move and my surroundings
got darker. I figure I was about 20 feet down when I felt some
rocky bottom passing under my right toe. The force of the waves
was slight here but my movement with the current was plainly
felt. This woke me from my torpor.
I concentrated on my foot and tried with all my might to flex my
foot and anchor my toe on the reef surface below. It worked and
I cut my toe. This woke me up more. I still, believe it or not,
did not need to breathe. I waited for the current to shift
direction and slid along the bottom with the top of my right
foot. When the current flipped again, I would anchor my toe on
the reef. I did this 5 or six times. The only part of me that I
tried to move was my right foot and toe. I still did not have
the strength or muscle coordination to swim. It was getting
shallower (warmer water) and my surroundings lighter.
All of a sudden the water got murkier and the bottom hard to
hold because it was sandy instead of rocky and, like a submarine
surfacing, my head popped out of the water.
Now a normal person takes a deep breath here, right? Not me. I
was in terror of losing my grip on the bottom (it was sandy with
no toe holds) so I plunged back under to "hold position" until
the current shifted. I had glimpsed my sister yards away and I
realized I was on the shore so I weakly and carefully stood up,
breathed in deep and vomited my guts out.
I raised my head and stared into my sister's eyes. She looked at
me and said, "You tried". John died that day. I ended up fishing
Larry out as he was cursing his way in (We lay him on the beach
and he was okay after about 20 minutes) and keeping John's
teenage kid (he had two of his kids there that day) from
drowning by trying to fish his father's body out.
We got the body as it managed to float a ways away from the rip
tide and bump up against the far end of the tidal pool reef. We
did CPR to no avail; he had a pulse from my pushing on his
sternum while my sister (a registered nurse) cleared the air
passage and breathed into his lungs but we gave up when the
ambulance got there about 20 minutes later; he was a solid blue
color (John was very fair and redheaded). Not a good day.
The point of this experience I am relating is that we need to
get our priorities straight in this country. WTF are we willing
to die for? What are our principles? I know what mine are, who
my boss is, and where I'm going when I leave this valley of
tears. That guides me in my decision making.
As a pilot I learned that you HAVE TO think about trouble all
the time, plan what you will do when or if it comes and PRACTICE
it in your brain. Then relax and go on about your life.
Otherwise you will learn by hard experience why a coward dies a
thousand deaths.
Be true to your principles and you will sleep better at night
and be an asset to humanity and God.
My rant is for anyone here that hasn't thought this through. I'm
in the moral imperative faith based camp.
More Background:
I had events occur in my life that kept me alive miraculously
when I should have gotten killed. I did not pray to avoid
getting smacked by a car that ran a red light without lights on
at night while my brother Larry was saying "It's not going to
get any greener" to me from the back seat of the car while I sat
there like a bump on a log for NO REASON WHATSOEVER!
I didn't spend 10 to 15 minutes underwater refusing to breathe
and come out of it because I'm superman; it just happened and I
wrote about it in detail here some time ago. Sure, I was
praising the Lord and thanking Him for "rescuing" me while I was
drowning trying to fish my brother in law dentist (who drowned)
from the surf but it was my foot moving me along the bottom for
those 10 to 15 minutes or so that got me to the beach because I
could barely move my arms and had to concentrate just to dig one
toe into the rocky bottom. God made me work for that one!
While totaling a car, the seat belt caused my rib cage to rotate
approximately 10 degrees or so. I fully expected to die and had
no desire whatsoever to stick around as I lay in a field gasping
for air.
I did not pray or ask to be miraculously healed but
nevertheless, AFTER the doctor at the ER had decided to do an
exploratory on me to see how damaged I was inside, everything
just POPPED into place X-ray room just before the body
cavity/chest X-ray prior to the operation. The doctor cancelled
the operation after seeing the x-ray. Apparently nothing was
broken. You studied medicine (this comment was originally made
to a doctor). How many times have you heard of rib cage rotation
along the sternum that just pops back into position? How about
the spleen? In violent car crashes it is almost always ruptured.
I lost consciousness gasping for air at the hospital with
everything going round and round. When I woke up I was still
gasping and being rolled into x-ray when all kinds of bubbling
noises came from my chest.
I addressed God in my mind and said, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!?
Something or someone said, also in my mind, I"M FIXING YOU. My
reaction was of chagrin. I was convinced I was DONE here and now
I had to live in this HELL HOLE some more.
Now you can call that a faith based miraculous healing if you
want but if you do I will say that you are fooling yourself. The
"power" of your mind in Faith isn't going to have you or anybody
else walking on water anytime soon. All this stuff and nonsense
about each one of us being a little god and able to do miracles
just by tuning in to some zen power or mind focus is simply
magical thinking. As to JC's quote about moving mountains,
mustard seed and Faith, He was talking about rocket fuel for
evangelizing (fishing humans), not habitually violating the laws
of physics.
My belief in Christ is EVIDENCE based. RE thinks I fancy myself
"privileged" to have these experiences. I consider myself
incredibly stubborn; so much so that God decided that I am so
dense that He had to show me some evidence before I would
believe. He doesn't do that to most people because most people
aren't that dense, period.
And no, I'm not going to detail all the weird and wonderful
stuff I have witnessed to you because some reader here might
think I'm inventing it just to prove some metaphysical bullshit
I believe in. Sorry, I'm about as hard nosed about cause and
effect as any other scientist out there.
I once put a guy in jail because I refused to back down on my
court testimony after witnessing a car he lost control of drive
over and kill a street vendor. Despite receiving death threats,
I said, fu ck it, it's the right thing to do so I'M GOING TO DO
IT.
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Everything I witnessed about God doing His thing here and there
was rigorously questioned and fact checked moment by moment by
me. I was NOT looking for anything but an excuse to NOT believe
there is a supreme being that intercedes in the lives of people
on this planet in a personal manner.
But the observed events and facts said otherwise. Sure, I have
Faith NOW, but I didn't do anything to earn it. It really IS, as
the bible says, a gift.
P.S. Larry, my brother who's idea it was to go to that beach
that day in the first place, AND who had the "bright" idea of
running the current, which eventually caused the drowing death
of John Adair, my brother-in-law, has methodically and self
servingly lied about his role in the above tragedy. Larry is a
serial liar, an adulterer and a crook. If you have been told a
different version of any of the above events by him, where he
coincidentally appears to be the big hero and I appear as the
wimp, you are being lied to. Larry was the chief architect of
the theft of my inheritance after our mother, then our father,
died. He and all my siblings who joined with him in a conspiracy
to steal my inheritance got away with it temporarily.
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Re: Member Interesting, Hair Raising, Humorous or Otherwise Unus
ual Experiences
By: AGelbert Date: January 15, 2018, 1:28 pm
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[quote=AG]My rant is for anyone here that hasn't thought this
through. I'm in the moral imperative faith based camp. [/quote]
Gee, ya think?
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It's a good day to recall the words of MLK, Jr.:
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[quote][font=times new roman][color=navy]“We as a nation must
undergo a radical revolution of values… when machines and
computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered
more important than people, the giant triplets of racism,
materialism and militarism are incapable of being conquered.” --
Martin Luther King, Jr. April 4, 1967[/font][/color][/quote]
Agelbert confession: My goal in life is to be as "maladjusted"
as Martin Luther King Jr. was. I admit that I am still a work in
VERY slow progress, but I am not confused by Mammon worshipping
cults about what is really important in life and what is damning
to life.
[center][font=times new roman]"Maladjusted" Martin Luther King
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[quote][font=times new roman]Luke 12:15 And he said unto them,
Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life
consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he
possesseth.
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[font=times new roman]Luke 12:30-34
30 For all these things do the nations of the world seek after:
and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.
31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things
shall be added unto you.
32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure
to give you the kingdom.
33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags
which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not,
where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.[/font]
[font=times new roman]34 For where your treasure is, there will
your heart be also.[/font][/quote]
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