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       #Post#: 23--------------------------------------------------
       i can call you Betty and and can call me Al {fie}
       By: Alfie Date: November 25, 2014, 1:17 pm
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       if we remember those long ago beginnings when we first came to
       know Jesus
       none of "us" had answers ; but only a knowledge that we needed
       to listen
       and Jesus was the one we needed to listen to.
       
       
       in those beginnings;
       
       Jesus didn't speak of ;
       
       
       sacraments, rapture, doctrines, orthodoxy, law,
       denominations,
       
       instead;
       
       { as seen in the beginnings of
       the new testament }
       
       the story starts off with him;
       and his introduction
       just like;
       if you want to talk with me
       and here what i have to say
       you have to get to know me --- the conversation
       doesn't begin with what i feel is wrong with you --- "right?"
       
       the story starts with Jesus
       
       and its told to those who
       listen
       
       it a family story;
       
       retold {the gospel story} by
       family
       
       as an invite to the listener in
       to the family
       such subjects as ;
       
       sacraments, rapture, doctrines,
       orthodoxy, law, denominations, etc
       ----------------- " imo "
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       are subjects for those in the
       family and not { !!! }
       for those outside the family
       
       opinions by the family that
       differ here ; don't exclude family from being family !!!
       but they also are talked about in the story ; but they in
       themselves are not the "family" story
       
       
       #Post#: 24--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i can call you Betty and and can call me Al {fie}
       By: Helen Date: November 25, 2014, 3:07 pm
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       [quote]      sacraments, rapture, doctrines, orthodoxy, law,
       denominations, etc
       ----------------- " imo "
       -----------------------
       are subjects for those in the
       family and not { !!! }
       for those outside the family
       opinions by the family that differ
       here ; [/quote]
       Oh, I see...I will have to get used to how you post all over
       again!! LOL
       Well I can't feel that I agree....becuase it was "that kind of
       stuff" and the discussions, which started me off in getting
       interested in the 'things of the Lord.'
       For me, it didn't even start with "Jesus" ...I thought that God
       was God, and Jesus was a baby that He sent here...Jesus was for
       Sunday School...I had no clue who Jesus was at all!!
       My search was always to 'know the Father', not Jesus.
       I was never interested much in Jesus, not even in sunday
       school....that is why it was quite the shock when I heard an old
       Pastor preach on Jesus, and He being the Way to the Father!!
       #Post#: 25--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i can call you Betty and and can call me Al {fie}
       By: A nonny mouse Date: November 25, 2014, 4:03 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=4.msg24#msg24 date=1416949674]
       Oh, I see...I will have to get used to how you post all over
       again!! LOL
       Well I can't feel that I agree....becuase it was "that kind of
       stuff" and the discussions, which started me off in getting
       interested in the 'things of the Lord.'
       For me, it didn't even start with "Jesus" ...I thought that God
       was God, and Jesus was a baby that He sent here...Jesus was for
       Sunday School...I had no clue who Jesus was at all!!
       My search was always to 'know the Father', not Jesus.
       I was never interested much in Jesus, not even in sundsy
       school....that is why it was quite the shock when I heard an old
       Pastor preach on Jesus, and He being the Way to the Father!!
       [/quote]
       Helen, Alfie's sentence that followed the bit that you quoted is
       important don't you agree:-
       "opinions by the family that differ here ; don't exclude family
       from being family !!! "
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       Re: i can call you Betty and and can call me Al {fie}
       By: Helen Date: November 25, 2014, 4:37 pm
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       Yes indeed Amen!! :)
       #Post#: 27--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i can call you Betty and and can call me Al {fie}
       By: Mary Date: November 25, 2014, 5:59 pm
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       Hi to 'old' friends - thank you for inviting me to join you.
       Hope everyone is well and ready to pass on your wisdom.  ;D
       #Post#: 31--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i can call you Betty and and can call me Al {fie}
       By: A nonny mouse Date: November 25, 2014, 10:53 pm
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       [quote author=Mary link=topic=4.msg27#msg27 date=1416959994]
       Hi to 'old' friends - thank you for inviting me to join you.
       Hope everyone is well and ready to pass on your wisdom.  ;D
       [/quote]
       It will be strange indeed if, after all my efforts to reunite
       old friends in a peaceful and loving forum, I should finally
       manage to do so in a forum pitched to court controversy.
       BTW I've always liked your avatar which depicts 'Mary' who had
       "chosen the better part" by worshipping at the feet of Jesus.
       May God's richest blessing be yours.
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