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       Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Piper
       Date: November 10, 2015, 1:04 pm
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       [center]Grace is not part of consciousness; it is the amount of
       light in our souls, not knowledge nor reason.[/center]
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Piper
       Date: November 11, 2015, 10:37 am
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       [center]Since many of you do not belong to the Catholic Church
       and others are non-believers, from the bottom of my heart I give
       this silent blessing to each and every one of you, respecting
       the conscience  of each one of you but knowing that each one of
       you is a child of God.[/center]
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: bradley
       Date: November 11, 2015, 1:08 pm
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       I had mentioned to someone once that we were all children of
       God.   He went into long drawn out tirade telling me why only
       certain people were God's children.   I just sighed.   Some
       people are too caught up in defending their faith to see truth
       in the words of others.   Yes, true words and good words.
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Kerry
       Date: November 11, 2015, 4:26 pm
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       Is everyone a child of God?    In one way, everyone has to be
       since God is Creator; but we can act like the Devil.   Maybe we
       can even let the Devil adopt us so we become children of the
       serpent.  Then I guess we need to be taken back into the family.
       
       Some people like to tell you why they're God's children and
       others aren't.   I think maybe they lack faith in both God and
       themselves and are talking more to convince themselves all is
       well than to convince anyone else.    That attitude is similar
       to the hypocrite who prayed, "I thank Thee, God,  that I am not
       like other men. . . ."     He's still missed the mark.   If he
       could realize and accept that everyone is a child of God, he'd
       feel a lot better about himself, I think, and his relationship
       with God.   It would be a relief to him.
       
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: bradley
       Date: November 11, 2015, 6:52 pm
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       It is one thing to be a child of God, it is another thing to be
       a son in whom God is well pleased.   Many children hate their
       parents or dont care about them at all.   Those children are not
       children in whom the parents are well pleased.   Thats how I see
       it.   But God would have all His children repent and return to
       the family if they but would.
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Piper
       Date: November 11, 2015, 11:48 pm
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       > [center]John 1:11-13
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       > 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not
       receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who
       believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of
       God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human
       decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.[/center]
       --- End Quote ---
       Draw your own conclusions, gentlemen.
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Piper
       Date: November 11, 2015, 11:52 pm
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       > Quote Brad:  God would have all His children repent and return
       to the family if they but would.
       --- End Quote ---
       True.
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Piper
       Date: November 11, 2015, 11:56 pm
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       > Quote Kerry:  Maybe we can even let the Devil adopt us so we
       become children of the serpent.
       --- End Quote ---
       True.
       I love the Pope.  I think he has much more faith in people than
       I do.
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Piper
       Date: November 12, 2015, 7:56 am
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       [center]This is me, a sinner on whom the Lord has turned his
       gaze.  And this is what I said when they asked me if I would
       accept my election as pontiff.  I am a sinner, but I trust in
       the infinite mercy and patience of our Lord Jesus Christ, and I
       accept in a spirit of penance.[/center]
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       Re: Messages from Pope Francis
   DIR By: Kerry
       Date: November 12, 2015, 8:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: Piper link ---
       >
       > True.
       >
       > I love the Pope.  I think he has much more faith in people
       than I do.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The last poll I saw had 61% of non-Catholics in America had a
       favorable view of him, while 74% of Catholics did; so you aren't
       alone.    That poll
  HTML http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/us/pope-francis-poll/
       was right
       before his visit.
       In one way, telling people everyone is a child of God seems like
       the Gospel to me -- or related.  Can people admit it and start
       acting like it, or are they afraid to admit it, being
       overwhelmed by the evils of  the world?   It's a dog eat dog
       world; and trying to be good can be seen as threatening to
       self-survival.
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