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       The promise of the Holy Spirit
       By: Colin Feener Date: October 29, 2015, 3:07 am
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       I've spoken on this several times lately but on other
       topics. I'm a bit concerned people may think I am turning
       against my Lord and savior Jesus but I most certainly am not.
       When Jesus promised us the father would send us the helper, and
       he called him there the Spirit of truth along with the Holy
       Spirit, he told us first. He who knows me knows the father, he
       who hates me hates the father and loves me loves the father.They
       then even admitted they did not know the father and they
       believed the did know Jesus.This is the most important thing I
       believe for all Christian believers. to receive the Holy Spirit.
       I even think people cannot be saved without the Holy Spirit.
       Jesus also said he is the teacher, he himself, Jesus ,yet he
       sends the Spirit to teach us the ways of God and truth and
       called him the helper who will teach us. See, there is some
       controversy there if you don't understand. And Jesus also said
       there the father would not send the helper unless Jesus leaves
       them and goes back to the father. We cannot receive Jesus and
       have the Holy Spirit at the beginning of our walk with him. Even
       in the bible they say often the Holy Spirit had not yet been
       given, but again you see where John and several people were said
       to be filled with the Holy Spirit.Then there is where he said. I
       am the truth and the truth will set you free. The helper is said
       to be the Spirit of truth. The Holy Spirit was there right at
       the very beginning moving over the waters. The word was made
       flesh, he was the word with God and was God. The Holy Spirit,
       one and the same and the Holy Spirit was his father too and he
       said I and the father are one and the same. But he was made
       flesh, God incarnant, God with us.
       When Jesus was made he was the word and the word was with God
       and it was made flesh but just as the word in the bible is not
       written in righteousness to the sinner who does not understand,
       the word is just the same.We don't understand the bible, we
       don't understand Jesus and less we see Jesus as the word of God
       made plain to us in our understanding we are in error . That's
       why it said so many times in John's revelation book, they drop
       dead before him. Us too unless we see him in the living risen
       way. When he was with them they could only see the fleshy Jesus
       and us too when we read the word.
       If you stop seeing the literal word and believing it as the
       truth, until then Jesus is still with you in his sinful nature.
       When  we seek out the Spiritual understanding, that is the Holy
       Spirit and then we see the son and the father and they are one
       and the same. At the point in time we see the Lamb for sacrafice
       and the true Jesus is seen just like when Abraham was willing to
       give up his son for God n God showed him a sacrafice stuck to a
       tree and with Jesus too, the son didn't die but was raised up to
       the father, Yes Jesus did bleed and die for us but you have to
       bring him back by giving up the flesh and my friend if you can
       only do that, you will have served the Lord well and received
       your new life and the second death will have no part with you.
       If I have taught you anything it is because the Lord trusted
       me with his teachings bit thid is the most important thing as I
       see it now for us as believers to do.
       I hope, your friend
       Collin Russell Feener, a servant of the Lord, a messenger from
       God
       If any of you read and believe this please comment and I will
       not feel so alone.
       #Post#: 3163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The promise of the Holy Spirit
       By: Colin Feener Date: October 29, 2015, 4:35 am
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       I do expect many people would say they have received the
       Holy Spirit when they were baptized and a priest or minister
       said the words, i baptize you in the name of the father, son and
       holy Spirit but this is all error. You cannot baptize some one
       into anything by just saying you do , Its like saying I cloth
       you in  the teaching but they put no cloth on you by saying the
       words. They have to put the cloth on you. Word spoken without
       action, or saying without doing, does nothing but deceive
       people.The whole world has been deceived in this way. That's
       like, you aren't a priest just because you wear the robes, you
       have to learn first. You can't be a priest because someone just
       said the word over you. You have to be taught first. And people
       say only God can give you the Holy Spirit. If that was the4 case
       Jesus would not have told us to baptize people into his name.
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