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       Money
       By: Kerry Date: August 28, 2015, 11:02 pm
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       For the first time in my life, I've created a budget for myself.
       I've been taking more of an interest in money since I got the
       second job.
       I have various taxes to pay before the end of the year; and that
       means I can't pay as much on the credit cards as I'd like.
       Last year, I couldn't pay one tax until December at the last
       minute after some of my paper customers gave me money for
       Christmas.    I have three credit cards; and two pay cash back
       on purchases, but that doesn't help me much good if I'm carrying
       balances and paying interest.    I need to pay off the  Barclay
       card first since it is one of the cards that pay  cash back on
       purchases.   If I can get it paid off, then I'll use that card
       for all my gas and shopping and try my level best to pay it off
       in full every month.  I had been doing that until I ran into
       unexpected expenses and couldn't.   Now there's a balance on it
       and I'm paying interest.
       The plan then it to tackle the other card which pays cash back.
       The card that doesn't pay cash back has a lower interest rate,
       so that works fine.  I'll make minimum payments on it or a
       little over the minimum.
       I even checked my IRA.  There's not a lot in it; but most of it
       was not in stock, and the stock I do have in it hasn't gone down
       much.  Indeed I like the stock so much, I think I may buy more
       of it since it went down in price.   Buy low, sell high, they
       say.   The stock was paying over 10% annually in dividends.
       The interest rate in the "money market fund" is pathetic.
       There's roughly 11 times as much money in the money market fund
       as in the stock; but I make about 9  times as much money from
       the stock.  I can't see the interest rate on the money market
       fund; but it has to be less than half a percent.
       I'm actually fairly good at picking stocks.   I may look around
       to buy some other stock if I can figure out how to log in to my
       account.    I almost NEVER buy stock that doesn't pay dividends.
       I do NOT buy glamor stocks.  A company has to have REAL ASSETS
       and know how to make money before I'll buy its stock.    I also
       have NEVER bought a foreign stock.   I may in the future,  but
       you can be sure it won't because it's in vogue at the time.  The
       meltdown in Chinese stocks was predictable.  I can't believe
       what happened there.  The Chinese government seems to be
       catching "market fever" from the West.    Rising stock prices
       doesn't always mean your economy is sound.
       I think I sold that electric stock shortly before the market
       crash -- in 2008?   I can't remember now when I sold it; but I
       do know when the market went down big time, it was nothing to
       me.   I believe when I sold it,  the sale was pure profit -- I
       had gotten more back in dividends than I had paid for it
       originally.  Oh yes, I've made some mistakes too.
       I used to own some stock in an electric company.    The company
       has solid assets.  It produced real electricity unlike Enron.
       It also had a record of paying dividends; but it ran into a
       problem and the price took a dive.  There was nothing really
       wrong with the company in the long haul.   That's when I bought
       it.   Yes, of course, it got over the temporary problem and
       started paying dividends again.   Then the price went flying up
       real high.   You got to sit like a vulture on a tree looking for
       companies in trouble -- but temporary trouble.  It's amazing to
       me how people panic and sell stocks at the whisper of bad news.
       I also like to know exactly how a company makes its money.
       What product or service do they sell?  You can be sure I
       wouldn't have bought Apple stocks recently if I had been buying
       stocks since so much of their growth depended on sales in China;
       and China looked like a ticking time bomb to me.   When the
       Chinese market took its dive, I was surprised that it took so
       long for Apple shares to take their  dive.
       I also have to change how I bank.  I have two banking accounts.
       Eventually I may get rid of one.   First of all it charges me
       $10 a month if my average balance is under $1000.    My checks
       for delivering papers go there; and most of my online payments
       are also out of it.    The pizza store doesn't have direct
       deposit; so  I think I'll probably drive there and deposit them.
       I may also deposit some cash too since I make tips and gas
       money.   The good thing about that bank is they pay 1.5%
       interest even on low balances.
       I won't deposit too much cash though since my mechanic gives me
       a discount if I pay cash.   I forget what percent he says credit
       cards take out of the payments he receives.   So I'm saving him
       that fee when I pay cash, and he cuts me a break too.
       #Post#: 3006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Helen Date: August 29, 2015, 12:49 am
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       Wouldn't it be better to cancel two of the credit cards and work
       at paying off the one you keep?
       Or can't you move everything on to one card?  A friend of mine
       did that. Someone helped her put all her cards on to one and she
       is just working at paying the one off.
       The only time I have ever paid interest is when we had a mail
       strike and did not get a bill.
       Stupidly I didn't go to the bank and ask how much I owed...so I
       got dinged for interest. With my personality I break out in a
       cold sweat if I owe anyone money!  My hubby gets cross with me
       because I always pay every bill the day after I get it in the
       mail. He is just the oposite...he refuses to pay any bill until
       the very last day before it is due!! :)
       #Post#: 3009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Oneoff Date: August 29, 2015, 3:26 am
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       Distil the question of ‘wealth’ down through ‘capitalism’ (which
       is largely a form of gambling), and down through ‘exploitation’,
       until you end up with ‘greed’.
       Who then dares to truly embrace “I have learned in whatsoever
       state I am, therein to be content”?
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       #Post#: 3010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Kerry Date: August 29, 2015, 6:33 am
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=345.msg3006#msg3006
       date=1440827342]
       [size=12pt]Wouldn't it be better to cancel two of the credit
       cards and work at paying off the one you keep?
       Or can't you move everything on to one card?  A friend of mine
       did that. Someone helped her put all her cards on to one and she
       is just working at paying the one off. [/quote]
       I owe more than the credit limit on any one card.   What will
       happen, I think, is that when I pay off one card, they'll send
       me an offer to transfer balances to their card -- at a lower
       rate of interest.
       [quote]The only time I have ever paid interest is when we had a
       mail strike and did not get a bill.
       Stupidly I didn't go to the bank and ask how much I owed...so I
       got dinged for interest. With my personality I break out in a
       cold sweat if I owe anyone money!  My hubby gets cross with me
       because I always pay every bill the day after I get it in the
       mail. He is just the oposite...he refuses to pay any bill until
       the very last day before it is due!! :)[/quote]If you get
       interest on money in your checking account, he's right to say
       you should pay it at the latest possible.    My problem lately
       is remembering to pay bills.   Somehow I seem to mislay them.
       I thought I had mislaid my gas bill; but I got it in yesterday's
       mail and paid it right away.     I guess I'm becoming like you
       -- I used to put off paying; but now I'm afraid I might forget.
       
       I may go to "auto pay" once I get my finances straightened out.
       If I can be sure there will enough money in the bank to do it,
       it might make sense.  You can set that up to pay on the day due;
       and that's what I would do if I can get interest on money in my
       checking account.    What I may do is move bills one by one over
       to that bank account.
       I had to change my cell phone plan.  I almost never used that
       phone before.  The only reason I kept it was for emergencies
       while out driving on my paper route.  But I'm using it a lot
       now.    If customers don't answer their doors, I call them; and
       I have to call the store too sometimes if problems come up.    I
       have that set up to be charged monthly to a credit card -- that
       gives me a 1% rebate.    Once I get one cash-back card down to
       zero,  I'll check to see how many other monthly bills I can
       charge to it.     I can set up my phone bill to get charged
       automatically to a credit card.  That's about $90 a month for
       the land line and internet.   That would be 90 cents a month in
       my pocket.
       One of my banks is trying to give me a Discover card.  I can get
       back 1.5% cash back on that -- and extra cash back if I use it
       every month and more cash back if I deposit the cash back into
       my bank account.   That would make the range between 1.5% and
       1.8% on all my purchases.   If I charged all my gas to that
       card, it could really add up.
       #Post#: 3011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Kerry Date: August 29, 2015, 7:48 am
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       [quote author=Oneoff link=topic=345.msg3009#msg3009
       date=1440836803]
       Distil the question of ‘wealth’ down through ‘capitalism’ (which
       is largely a form of gambling), and down through ‘exploitation’,
       until you end up with ‘greed’.[/quote]Banking with HSBC can be a
       gamble.  Payments can go missing.  But then crossing the street
       can be a gamble.   Markets don't have to be as risky as you may
       suppose though.   I tend to be conservative when picking stocks.
       The stock I have now is in a company that deals with financing
       real estate.   They have real assets that aren't going to
       evaporate.  The electric company stock I owned had facilities in
       several countries; and even if the economy slows down, electric
       companies are still going to sell some electricity.
       Untoward risks enter the picture when greed and fear get
       involved.  Those are two of the most powerful human motivations;
       and if you can be  blasé about  it, so much the better.   If
       people are putting money into stocks that they can't afford to
       lose,  they're doing it out of greed; and if the price of the
       stock starts going down,  odds are they'll panic and sell.
       [quote]Who then dares to truly embrace “I have learned in
       whatsoever state I am, therein to be content”?[/quote]
       I say even God can be restless and bored.  Something has to be
       happening, or the situation is intolerable.   If God had been
       content before creation, nothing would exist.   Can you imagine
       how horrible it would be for God, to be alone, alone, alone, for
       eternity?   If John was right when he said God is Love, then it
       would have been impossible for God to be content without "the
       other" to love.
       #Post#: 3050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Kerry Date: September 5, 2015, 7:07 am
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       I applied for  the Discover card and it should arrive shortly.
       What I do with it will depend on the credit limit.
       I also intend to start putting a little money into my Kiva
       account monthly.   I just put a little in today.  If I make more
       than projected by working at Dominos, maybe I can add more each
       month.   It's not the smartest thing to do when I had credit
       card debts; but I think it may be the right thing to do.   I
       won't be making any money by lending it at Kiva; but I also
       won't be losing much either.   If I ever get in severe financial
       trouble down the road,  I can get most of it back. I'd just have
       to wait for the people to repay the loans and then not  lend it
       again.   I can look at the Kiva account almost like a savings
       account.   I need to look into things more  to see if I can set
       it up so they can keep all the money in it if I die.
       I'm also considering changing the brokerage house that handles
       my IRA.    The one I have now charges an annual fee; and I think
       the fees they charge for trading are a little high.
       #Post#: 3051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: bradley Date: September 5, 2015, 10:33 am
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       Consolidation loans to change your several credit card balances
       is an easy way to lower your overall payment, but it may take a
       bit longer to pay it off then.
       #Post#: 3052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Kerry Date: September 5, 2015, 8:29 pm
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       [quote author=bradley link=topic=345.msg3051#msg3051
       date=1441467221]
       Consolidation loans to change your several credit card balances
       is an easy way to lower your overall payment, but it may take a
       bit longer to pay it off then.[/quote]I have to consider several
       factors.  The interest rate is zero for a year, I think.   That
       means more of each payment would go towards reducing the
       principle since nothing was being charged in interest; but if
       it's not paid off in a year (I think it's a year), I'd be paying
       a higher rate than what I'm paying now.
       If I do transfer balances, I also have to be sure not to keep
       charging stuff on that card.  Payments often go towards the
       things that were charged; and when the year of zero interest is
       up, the interest rate skyrockets.
       #Post#: 3053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Oneoff Date: September 6, 2015, 2:09 am
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       No scripture rings more true than the one that tells us that "in
       the world of mammon (usury) there is no such thing as a free
       lunch". All that is offered is differing variants of the means
       of making profit.
       #Post#: 3057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Money
       By: Kerry Date: September 8, 2015, 6:58 am
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       Here is one way of making more of a profit -- making slightly
       less money for doing less work and spending less on expenses.
       The Sunday papers are shifting to Saturdays; and my rate of pay
       is staying the same on those, so that breaks even.   The six
       other days are going now to five.    For each customer on my
       route, I'l be making one cent less a week; and I won't have to
       buy as much gas, so that will actually raises my income while I
       will be worker fewer hours!
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