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       Sports
       By: Gaffer Date: August 19, 2015, 3:44 pm
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       I've reached the conclusion that some sports are sinful.
       Here's why.
       We condemn unsafe working conditions in mines.   If workers
       could be injured or killed by mine disasters that could be
       prevented, we say their employers should do a better job at
       workplace safety.  Employers in the chemical business are
       required to protect their employees from unnecessary risk of
       exposure to dangerous chemicals that could endanger health or
       life.    I could go on, but you get the picture.   In those jobs
       however,  people are working to produce something beneficial.
       But what benefit does society derive from sports?  It's
       amusement; yet when it comes to amusement,  our governments seem
       to think it is okay for people to risk serious injuries in order
       to entertain us.   There seems something very wrong  when I
       could derive pleasure from seeing others  doing dangerous things
       in order to put a ball in a certain place and get points.
       Boxing may be the worst.  What is the point of that?   You don't
       get points for putting a ball in a hoop or through a goal post.
       The objective is to inflict as much physical harm as possible.
       Is that amusing?
       What do you think?
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       Re: Sports
       By: Helen Date: August 19, 2015, 5:24 pm
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       Not sure I would use the word " sinful. As Paul said to Timothy
       re...Discussing "endless genealogies"
       "Neither give heed to myths and endless genealogies, which cause
       questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."
       To me he inferes that it is a waste of time, just as I think
       sports are a waste of time.  In fact, some as we know are good
       for us. Those who are couch potato often have heart problems.
       Paul said ( again to Timothy) 8 "For bodily exercise profiteth
       little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having
       promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come."
       My grandkids use to be in competitive swimming. They were
       excellent it it. One with backstroke, one with the butterfly.
       They won lots of medals in their field.  My daughter signed them
       up at age 10 and they swam until age 16. She called it " Mall
       Insurance". As in not wanting the girls to 'hang-out' with
       firneds in the Mall's and get into trouble. It worked! They were
       passsionate about swimming and always waiting in the car at 4.30
       AM every morning before school. She never had to wake them.
       So..as you see, I don't believe it is 'sinful'.
       Plus Paul used running and boxing as an illustrations " I
       therefore so run, not with uncertainty; so fight I, not as one
       that beats the air:"  I would say he watched, or maybe have
       engaged in it at some point.
       Just my two cents. What I think..
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       Re: Sports
       By: Kerry Date: August 19, 2015, 5:46 pm
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       Ah, Helen, would you think it a sin if your grandchildren were
       encouraged to try to set world records swimming the English
       Channel all by themselves or to swim from Cuba to Florida
       without a shark cage the way that woman did?  I would.  However
       if the sports they engaged in were safe and actually healthy,
       then I see it as a very good thing -- and it looks as if it was.
       
       Did you hear about the two boys who vanished out boating off the
       coast of Florida?   That was supposed to be fun,  a fishing
       trip.   It seems no one set any safety standards.    From
       weather.com
  HTML http://www.weather.com/news/news/florida-boys-missing-atlantic-coast:
       After more than two weeks of searching for two teens missing off
       the Florida coast, the boys' families called off their
       privately-led search at sunset Friday.
       Austin Stephanos and Perry Cohen, both 14, disappeared during a
       fishing trip just off Jupiter Inlet on July 24 when a bout of
       severe weather moved through the area. A family spokesperson
       told local media they have chosen to end the search due to the
       absence of new information.
       “We love our boys and want them home.  Today, our hope becomes
       our prayer— that one day Perry and Austin will be returned to
       us. We thank everyone for their dedicated efforts and support,”
       the families said in a statement. They expressed their gratitude
       to the Coast Guard, volunteers who offered aid from Maine to
       Florida and the community of Palm Beach.
       The families are working to establish a charitable foundation in
       the boys' honor that seeks to encourage boating education for
       youth, WPTV-TV reported. They hope it will prevent other
       incidents of this type.
       What happened there?   First I don't know if it was wise to let
       two boys out by themselves on the ocean.  Then I wonder if they
       checked the weather?    Why didn't they have cell phones or some
       other way to contact people if they ran into trouble?
       What if your grandchildren wanted to take up jumping out of
       planes with parachutes so they appear in air shows? A man just
       died doing that.   Is this really entertainment worth having?
       From Reuters
  HTML http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/17/us-usa-chicago-airshow-idUSKCN0QM01D20150817:
       [bA U.S. Army parachutist died on Sunday, a day after he was
       involved in a mid-air collision with another parachutist during
       a Chicago air show, local media reported.
       Army Golden Knights parachutist Corey Hood had collided with an
       unidentified Navy parachutist during the Chicago Air & Water
       Show, the Chicago Sun Times reported.
       Hood, who was from Cincinnati, served five tours of duty in Iraq
       and Afghanistan. He had logged more than 575 jumps, according to
       the Army.
       "Sergeant Hood is an American hero, having dedicated nearly half
       his life in service to our nation," said Chicago Mayor Rahm
       Emanuel in a statement.
       Hood and a member of the Navy Leap Frogs parachute team collided
       during a jump involving 13 parachutists, the newspaper reported.
       The Navy parachutist suffered a broken leg and landed on a
       nearby Lake Michigan beach. Hood crashed onto a sidewalk after
       he reportedly hit the top of a building, the paper said.][/b]
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       Re: Sports
       By: Kerry Date: August 23, 2015, 4:43 pm
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       Two more airshow accidents?   From WPXI
  HTML http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/national/second-european-airshow-crash-two-days-kills-one-p/nnPqk/:
       One pilot is dead after two planes collided at a Swiss air show
       Sunday.
       The pilots were performing a formation aerobatics demonstration
       as a part of the German Grasshoppers team when one plane struck
       the other from above. The other pilot was able to eject from the
       cockpit and parachute to safety.
       The pilot in the accident in England on Saturday was taking big
       risks:
       In that case, the pilot, Andy Hill, who was a top Royal Air
       Force pilot, attempted to complete a loop at an air show.
       Spectators say he was too low and couldn't complete the turn.
       Hill was airlifted to a hospital, where he remains in critical
       condition. As for this latest crash, investigators are still
       trying to determine what caused it.
       Then there was the disaster in Slovakia earlier on Thursday at
       an airshow rehearsal.   From Reuters
  HTML http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/20/us-slovakia-crash-idUSKCN0QP0ZY20150820:<br
       />
       Two turbo-prop planes carrying civilian parachutists rehearsing
       for an air show collided in mid-air in Slovakia on Thursday,
       killing seven people, authorities said.
       The dead were the four pilots and three of the parachutists,
       Interior Minister Robert Kalinak told reporters.
       "Soon after takeoff, after the first maneuver, the two planes
       collided due to causes that are not yet known," he said. "All
       the people tried to save themselves, having parachutes on, and
       ... 31 managed to jump out without major injuries."
       Of the 31 survivors, five suffered light injuries, a health
       ministry spokesman said.
       Juraj Gyenes of Slovakia's Air and Naval Investigation Service
       told TA3 news channel the accident might have been caused by a
       possible overloading of one of the Czech-made L-410 planes that
       caused a sudden loss of altitude.
       People are amused by this?   I think it is a sin when people are
       taking this kind of risk just to amuse others.
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