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Out of INTO
By: Helen Date: December 6, 2014, 10:35 pm
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We hear people talking about "being saved" Being saved from
what?
God says :- "But you are a chosen generation, a royal
priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His own; that you should
show forth the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness
into His marvelous light:
CALLED US OUT OF....INTO LIGHT.
How "saved" were the Children of Israel when the were called
"out of" Egypt...yet only two of those who came 'out of' Egypt
went INTO the Promised land?
There seems a lot of rejoicing about what we have been saved
from...yet we have not seen the end of the story...our journey
is not over yet!
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Amadeus Date: December 13, 2014, 11:31 am
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[font=courier]The picture of those saved out of the bondage of
Egypt but who failed to make it into the Promised Land, presents
a pretty good argument against OSAS doesn't it?[/font]
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Poppy Date: December 13, 2014, 11:41 am
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[quote author=Amadeus link=topic=31.msg393#msg393
date=1418491892]
[font=courier]The picture of those saved out of the bondage of
Egypt but who failed to make it into the Promised Land, presents
a pretty good argument against OSAS doesn't it?[/font]
[/quote]
I don't think they were really saved though were they, as they
had come out of Egypt but not yet come into the promised land.
They were in transit.
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Amadeus Date: December 13, 2014, 12:00 pm
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[quote author=Harvest mouse link=topic=31.msg396#msg396
date=1418492468]
I don't think they were really saved though were they, as they
had come out of Egypt but not yet come into the promised land.
They were in transit.
[/quote]
[font=courier]As we are... We were called and have answered and
have come out of her but if we are called again, do we continue
to come out any part of her that God wants us out of?[/font]
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Kerry Date: December 13, 2014, 12:35 pm
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Were they saved? Well yes, but then again no.
Exodus 14:30 Thus the Lord saved Israel that day out of the hand
of the Egyptians; and Israel saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea
shore.
Deuteronomy 33:29 Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto
thee, O people saved by the Lord, the shield of thy help, and
who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be
found liars unto thee; and thou shalt tread upon their high
places.
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Helen Date: December 13, 2014, 3:13 pm
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Because they came out of the house which was marked and safe by
the blood of the lamb slain for a each house. They had partaken
of, and " come thought" the blood. So to me in that " type" they
were saved.
Just as Christians who get saved, but do not go any further.
They were even baptized in the sea and the cloud. 1 Cor 10 "And
were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;.."
Yet did not enter in to the full salvation prepared by the
Lord...as I have said many times and probably bore you! LOL
...they did not enter into the POSITION God had for them...they
fell short.
That is why we run the race, it is not over yet...it is not time
to rest yet...there is much ground to be taken yet.
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Helen Date: December 13, 2014, 3:23 pm
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[quote author=Amadeus link=topic=31.msg393#msg393
date=1418491892]
[font=courier]The picture of those saved out of the bondage of
Egypt but who failed to make it into the Promised Land, presents
a pretty good argument against OSAS doesn't it?[/font]
[/quote]
I can't agree there John :)
I just posted it as I see it in the second post I wrote, just
now. People who come through the blood as they did, are saved "
When I see the blood, I will pass over the house.." Thus blood
on the door posts and lintels.
They 'went through' the water... the Red Sea...yet they didn't
get the reward waiting in the Land Of Promise. Saved yes...but
they did not Taste of the Fullness.
Time to check our oil.
I do for sure stand on the ground of OSAS :)
( but progression through from Servant, ...Bride, to full grown
son. )
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Poppy Date: December 13, 2014, 6:27 pm
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[quote author=Amadeus link=topic=31.msg399#msg399
date=1418493632]
[font=courier]As we are... We were called and have answered and
have come out of her but if we are called again, do we continue
to come out any part of her that God wants us out of?[/font]
[/quote]
We may still be in transit but we are saved - well I believe I
am and I also believe that I am now living in eternity but yet
some changes will happen.
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Amadeus Date: December 13, 2014, 7:05 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=31.msg403#msg403 date=1418505826]
I can't agree there John :)
I just posted it as I see it in the second post I wrote, just
now. People who come through the blood as they did, are saved "
When I see the blood, I will pass over the house.." Thus blood
on the door posts and lintels.
They 'went through' the water... the Red Sea...yet they didn't
get the reward waiting in the Land Of Promise. Saved yes...but
they did not Taste of the Fullness.
Time to check our oil.
I do for sure stand on the ground of OSAS :)
( but progression through from Servant, ...Bride, to full grown
son. )
[/quote]
[font=courier]So then if a person is saved initially as the
Israelites were saved from Egyptian bondage, does this mean he
already has eternal Life? I believe that until a person has
finished his course, while he certainly have been saved from
much, the end is not yet. If prior to the end of his course, he
stumbles once too often, he will end up with nothing.[/font]
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Re: Out of INTO
By: Ivor1 Date: December 13, 2014, 7:11 pm
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As with many English words "saved" is not the best word..
Salvation is in the Lord, with him who will never leave us
holding our right hand and saying "do not be afraid, I myself
will help you!" For all the talk we hear of pressing on to
maturity we are but children in God's eyes. As Father he adopted
us and rightly demands obedience but knows we will fall short.
He will do what is required to change us but falling short is
not the same as rebelling.
We can run the race for the prize that is set before us (a seat
at the table, a seat in the house, a seat in the courtyard and a
place in the land) but we cannot run the race for salvation
because that is not within our grasp for the very reason that
the enemy would tear it from us. Thankfully our salvation bought
through the precious blood of our Lord is in His hand alone. He
gives it to us as a gift but he holds it in his keeping until
such time as the enemy has been overcome and we can mature to
full stature to resist him.
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